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[Matt's Eagles]

Redskins signed RB Willie Parker to a one-year contract that has a max value of $3.1 million.

ESPN's Adam Schefter confirms that Parker will join Larry Johnson and Clinton Portis in an "open competition" at tailback. Mike Shanahan is banking on his oft-productive zone-blocking system to rejuvenate at least one of the above's careers. Parker, 29, managed just 4.0 YPC on 98 attempts last year, and may be the weakest bet of the three to acquire fantasy value. Barring an unforeseen career turnaround, Parker only projects as a deep-league target for fantasy purposes.

 

[David Yudkin]

Maybe they dump the guy that looks the worst by the end of camp? If there's no signing bonus, then they don't have much to lose.

We're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anybody want to see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired.

 

[Honda]

Like is said at many an emo convention...

Someone's getting cut here.

 

[Dragon1952]

I thought Parker looked pretty good in pre-season last year (at times anyway), but they'd already pretty much made up their mind on Mendy. Those 3 spelling each other might not be that bad, and since they dropped everyone else anyway I guess you need somebody.

 

[Donnybrook]

My Portis to San Diego prediction gets a breath of new life.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Wow and why?

Maybe Pittsburgh told him that he wasn't needed, and Washington was the only team to offer a contract?

 

[Warpig]

My Portis to San Diego prediction gets a breath of new life.

As a Portis owner, I'd like this. As soon as I heard they signed FWP I started hoping that means they would cut Portis.

 

[Black]

Shanny is to RBs as Gruden was to QBs.

 

[az_prof]

Shanny is to RBs as Gruden was to QBs.

Shanny likes to have a lot of viable backs in camp to make everyone feel like they have to compete. It's hard to argue with his success at squeezing talent out of the RB position. It makes it impossible for fantasy players, however, to predict which back to own. I am officially staying away from WA running backs.

 

[Couch Potato]

My Portis to San Diego prediction gets a breath of new life.

As a Portis owner, I'd like this. As soon as I heard they signed FWP I started hoping that means they would cut Portis.

Portis has over $6 mil guaranteed in 2010. He's not going anywhere. LJ's contract is for 3 years and $10.5 mil (plus another 1.5 in incentives), but only $800,000 base in 2010 and no guaranteed money on any of it. FWP's contract is one year and "up to" $3.1 mil, almost certainly with a low base and the rest incentives and no guaranteed money (details unknown yet since it's not been made official).LJ or FWP will make it as Portis' RBBC partner, the other will sit on the pine or will be cut.

 

[Dreamer]

This is clearly a ploy to motivate Clinton Portis.

 

[Jewell]

At what point can we drop the "F" in FWP? It seems about time.

 

[jaybebo]

Shanny is to RBs as Gruden was to QBs.

THIS!!!

 

[Brownsfan]

Just a few yrs ago a FF roster with Portis, LJ & FWP would have been golden. Things change fast.

 

[Multiple Scores]

I'd put my money on LJ getting cut of the three. Is there anything LJ does that Portis doesn't do better at this point in their careers?

 

[buck56]

Whats this mean for P.J.Hill?

 

[Black]

Whats this mean for P.J.Hill?

Magic 8 Ball says: Ask again in August.

 

[ultimatefootballnetwork]

This is a terrible development for Redskins fans, because no matter how much Parker has left in the tank (which is close to nothing), it's just not wise to load up on 29-30 year old RBs who are on the decline.

I think Parker is a downgrade from Rock Cartwright.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Washington is the new Denver

 

[David Yudkin]

This is a terrible development for Redskins fans, because no matter how much Parker has left in the tank (which is close to nothing), it's just not wise to load up on 29-30 year old RBs who are on the decline. I think Parker is a downgrade from Rock Cartwright.

I do not believe Bill Belichick got that memo.

 

[Aardvarks]

Rule #6-B from the Aardvarks Fantasy Football Guidebook:

"Never draft a Shanahan running back. Even if you do decide to play Whack-A-Mole and get lucky, your chosen horse in the stable will be benched for no other reason than Shanahan hates you."

 

[Aardvarks]

Rule #6-C:

"Let the other guys debate all summer long about who Shanahan's starter is. They are just pimping the guy they plan to draft (or just drafted). Wait for Shanahan to pull the starter in week 3... then attack the waiver wire."

 

[Meast21]

This is a terrible development for Redskins fans, because no matter how much Parker has left in the tank (which is close to nothing), it's just not wise to load up on 29-30 year old RBs who are on the decline. I think Parker is a downgrade from Rock Cartwright.

Keep in mind Parker is on a one year heavily incentive laden contract. As a Skins homer I appreciate the fact that Shanny is bringing competition, albeit old, to really push Portis. He has had it made in the sun the past few years and this is exactly what he needs. Also, being realistic, Shanny and Allen have a plan in place and all these guys will be gone in 2 - 3 years after the rebuild has been completed.

 

[Kleck]

Just a few yrs ago a FF roster with Portis, LJ & FWP would have been golden. Things change fast.

Shark Pool Consensus Dynasty Rankings from March 2007:

1. Ladainian Tomlinson 6/23/1979

2. Larry Johnson 11/19/1979

3. Steven Jackson 7/22/1983

4. Shaun Alexander 8/30/1977

5. Clinton Portis 9/1/1981

6. Frank Gore 5/14/1983

7. Ronnie Brown 12/12/1981

8. Brian Westbrook 9/2/1979

9t. Kevin Jones 8/21/1982

9t. Reggie Bush 3/2/1985

11. Willie Parker 11/11/1980

12. Laurence Maroney 2/5/1985

13. Joseph Addai 5/3/1983

14. Rudi Johnson 10/1/1979

15. Willis McGahee 10/20/1981

16. Maurice Jones-Drew 3/23/1985

17. Adrian Peterson 3/21/1985

18. Carnell Williams 4/21/1982

19. Chester Taylor 9/22/1979

20. DeAngelo Williams 4/25/1983

21. Cedric Benson 12/28/1982

22. Marion BarberIII 6/10/1983

23. Deuce McAllister 12/27/1978

24. Edgerrin James 8/1/1978

25. Marshawn Lynch 4/26/1986

26. Michael Turner 2/13/1982

27. Jerious Norwood 1983

28. Thomas Jones 8/19/1978

29. Julius Jones 8/14/1981

30. Lamont Jordan 11/11/1978

31t. Jamal Lewis 8/26/1979

31t. Brandon Jacobs 7/6/1982 (Runoff)

33. LenDale White 12/20/1984

34. Travis Henry 10/29/1978

35. Tatum Bell 3/2/1981 (Runoff)

 

[Couch Potato]

Shanny could have sighed Ryan Torain instead of Parker.

Torain worked out at the Arizona State Pro Day last week, and Shanny was Torain's best hope.

*scratching Torain off deep sleeper list*

 

[JohnnyU]

Whats this mean for P.J.Hill?

Magic 8 Ball says: Ask again in August.

No, magic 8 ball says, "Would you like fries with that?".

 

[JohnnyU]

This is a terrible development for Redskins fans, because no matter how much Parker has left in the tank (which is close to nothing), it's just not wise to load up on 29-30 year old RBs who are on the decline.

I think Parker is a downgrade from Rock Cartwright.

Cartwright was garbage.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

We're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anybody want to see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired.

The idea of this is just awesome to me. They should re-shoot it:**FADE IN**Shanahan reaches into his briefcase and produces a stack of papers, or books, that are tied with decorative burgundy and gold string with arrowheads hanging from the ends. He carefully balances them on his fingertips and walks from behind his briefcase.SHANAHAN: These are the new playbooks for the season. These are the new playbooks that I've created myself....and to you, they're gold....and two of you will not get them. Why? Cuz to give them to you is just throwing them away(hands playbooks over his shoulder to Bruce Allen). They're for starters.**FADE OUT**

 

[Dragon1952]

At what point can we drop the "F" in FWP? It seems about time.

I bet if he was chasing you with a chain saw you'd think differently

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

At what point can we drop the "F" in FWP? It seems about time.

I bet if he was chasing you with a chain saw you'd think differently

R.O.T.F.L.M.A.O.!!!!!damn that was funny....

 

[D'OHtis]

I think Parker is a downgrade from Rock Cartwright.

As a team's RB3, he probably is as he offers no ST value [which is why one of Parker/LJ will be cut if Portis remains]. Parker is a superior RB than Cartwright [latter should not be getting carries -- which is probably why he hasn't throughout his career]

 

[ninerfan]

Sigh! Larry, Moe & Curly...

 

[trader jake]

At what point can we drop the "F" in FWP? It seems about time.

I bet if he was chasing you with a chain saw you'd think differently

Is FWP going to "get his goose on" too?What a cluster.

 

[JPeso]

My money's with LJ.

 

[Bizkiteer]

It's very possible that CP gets cut or traded at some point, unless he really impresses at camp. Not saying FWP is anything near CP in talent, but considering that LJ is there...this allows them to cut ties with one of the entitled egos from the past years.

 

[Couch Potato]

It's very possible that CP gets cut or traded at some point, unless he really impresses at camp. Not saying FWP is anything near CP in talent, but considering that LJ is there...this allows them to cut ties with one of the entitled egos from the past years.

No, it is NOT very possible Portis gets cut or traded this season. As I said earlier in this thread, he's guaranteed over $6 mil this season. His 2010 salary is $7.19 mil, of which 6.43 is guaranteed. No team is going to trade for him given that guarantee, and since the Skins will be paying the guarantee whether he plays or not, they don't benefit by cutting him. 2011 is another story, where he is scheduled to receive $8+ mil and none is guaranteed.

 

[Cookiemonster]

Just a few yrs ago a FF roster with Portis, LJ & FWP would have been golden. Things change fast.

Shark Pool Consensus Dynasty Rankings from March 2007:

1. Ladainian Tomlinson 6/23/1979

2. Larry Johnson 11/19/1979

3. Steven Jackson 7/22/1983

4. Shaun Alexander 8/30/1977

5. Clinton Portis 9/1/1981

6. Frank Gore 5/14/1983

7. Ronnie Brown 12/12/1981

8. Brian Westbrook 9/2/1979

9t. Kevin Jones 8/21/1982

9t. Reggie Bush 3/2/1985

11. Willie Parker 11/11/1980

12. Laurence Maroney 2/5/1985

13. Joseph Addai 5/3/1983

14. Rudi Johnson 10/1/1979

15. Willis McGahee 10/20/1981

16. Maurice Jones-Drew 3/23/1985

17. Adrian Peterson 3/21/1985

18. Carnell Williams 4/21/1982

19. Chester Taylor 9/22/1979

20. DeAngelo Williams 4/25/1983

21. Cedric Benson 12/28/1982

22. Marion BarberIII 6/10/1983

23. Deuce McAllister 12/27/1978

24. Edgerrin James 8/1/1978

25. Marshawn Lynch 4/26/1986

26. Michael Turner 2/13/1982

27. Jerious Norwood 1983

28. Thomas Jones 8/19/1978

29. Julius Jones 8/14/1981

30. Lamont Jordan 11/11/1978

31t. Jamal Lewis 8/26/1979

31t. Brandon Jacobs 7/6/1982 (Runoff)

33. LenDale White 12/20/1984

34. Travis Henry 10/29/1978

35. Tatum Bell 3/2/1981 (Runoff)

Wow. Thank god for the '08 draft class. The RB position was really backloaded then.

 

[Godsbrother]

I am one of the few that don't think FWP is washed up. Good luck, Willie -- I hope it works out for him and the 'skins.

 

[Highway Robbery]

If there ever was a marriage to be made between system and RB this might be it.

Shanahan's system requires a RB to make one cut and go. Many talented RBs struggle in it because they do too much and look for cutback lanes.

FWP has improved greatly through the years but he still has limited vision and makes few cuts and just runs and goes. His main area of progress in fact has been that he now is an inside runner. However, he stills plows straight ahead and misses cutback opportunities.

I think he will thrive in Washington. You heard it here first!

 

[Eminence]

I for one think all three will remain rostered throughout the season. You know how it is with RBs as they reach age 30. They can be here today, gone tomorrow. The RB position is also one that heeds MANY injuries. You'd want the most depth as possible, and veteran depth is ALWAYS a good thing.

1.) Sometimes a simple change of environment can revive a veterans career.

2.) The three of these guys should definitely PUSH each other. You know all three of them want to the chance to the bell-cow back. They know that they'll have to FIGHT for carries every week.

3.) It should keep the three of them fresh. The three of them have histories of heavy workloads. Let's see what they can do fresh throughout a 16-game season.

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I for one am excited to see how this pans out. I just hope they improve their line through the draft.

 

[road warrior]

Just a few yrs ago a FF roster with Portis, LJ & FWP would have been golden. Things change fast.

Shark Pool Consensus Dynasty Rankings from March 2007:

1. Ladainian Tomlinson 6/23/1979

2. Larry Johnson 11/19/1979

3. Steven Jackson 7/22/1983

4. Shaun Alexander 8/30/1977

5. Clinton Portis 9/1/1981

6. Frank Gore 5/14/1983

7. Ronnie Brown 12/12/1981

8. Brian Westbrook 9/2/1979

9t. Kevin Jones 8/21/1982

9t. Reggie Bush 3/2/1985

11. Willie Parker 11/11/1980

12. Laurence Maroney 2/5/1985

13. Joseph Addai 5/3/1983

14. Rudi Johnson 10/1/1979

15. Willis McGahee 10/20/1981

16. Maurice Jones-Drew 3/23/1985

17. Adrian Peterson 3/21/1985

18. Carnell Williams 4/21/1982

19. Chester Taylor 9/22/1979

20. DeAngelo Williams 4/25/1983

21. Cedric Benson 12/28/1982

22. Marion BarberIII 6/10/1983

23. Deuce McAllister 12/27/1978

24. Edgerrin James 8/1/1978

25. Marshawn Lynch 4/26/1986

26. Michael Turner 2/13/1982

27. Jerious Norwood 1983

28. Thomas Jones 8/19/1978

29. Julius Jones 8/14/1981

30. Lamont Jordan 11/11/1978

31t. Jamal Lewis 8/26/1979

31t. Brandon Jacobs 7/6/1982 (Runoff)

33. LenDale White 12/20/1984

34. Travis Henry 10/29/1978

35. Tatum Bell 3/2/1981 (Runoff)

Wow. Thank god for the '08 draft class. The RB position was really backloaded then.

Now that is interesting.

 

[Bizkiteer]

It's very possible that CP gets cut or traded at some point, unless he really impresses at camp. Not saying FWP is anything near CP in talent, but considering that LJ is there...this allows them to cut ties with one of the entitled egos from the past years.

No, it is NOT very possible Portis gets cut or traded this season. As I said earlier in this thread, he's guaranteed over $6 mil this season. His 2010 salary is $7.19 mil, of which 6.43 is guaranteed. No team is going to trade for him given that guarantee, and since the Skins will be paying the guarantee whether he plays or not, they don't benefit by cutting him. 2011 is another story, where he is scheduled to receive $8+ mil and none is guaranteed.

Uhh, if he were traded there is this thing called re-structuring contracts...you might have heard about that, right? Considering it's an un-capped year and Danny is not concerned about his current spending, NOW would be the time to cut him as there is no cap hit. Again, not saying it is going to happen, but where previously it was not an option...IT'S VERY POSSIBLE that it COULD happen now.

 

[Couch Potato]

It's very possible that CP gets cut or traded at some point, unless he really impresses at camp. Not saying FWP is anything near CP in talent, but considering that LJ is there...this allows them to cut ties with one of the entitled egos from the past years.

No, it is NOT very possible Portis gets cut or traded this season. As I said earlier in this thread, he's guaranteed over $6 mil this season. His 2010 salary is $7.19 mil, of which 6.43 is guaranteed. No team is going to trade for him given that guarantee, and since the Skins will be paying the guarantee whether he plays or not, they don't benefit by cutting him. 2011 is another story, where he is scheduled to receive $8+ mil and none is guaranteed.

Uhh, if he were traded there is this thing called re-structuring contracts...you might have heard about that, right? Considering it's an un-capped year and Danny is not concerned about his current spending, NOW would be the time to cut him as there is no cap hit. Again, not saying it is going to happen, but where previously it was not an option...IT'S VERY POSSIBLE that it COULD happen now.

Yeah, I've heard of restructuring, and I know there's no cap hit this year. They don't matter.Apparently YOU don't understand what guaranteed money means. You think Portis is going to restructure, giving up a guarantee, to make it easier for a team to get rid of him? As far as cap hit is concerned, guarantee is cash, dinero, real money. Cap hit isn't the issue. He's not being traded, he's not being cut in 2010. Period.Look, you believe what you want. You'll be wrong, but go ahead.

 

[VaCatFan]

It's very possible that CP gets cut or traded at some point, unless he really impresses at camp. Not saying FWP is anything near CP in talent, but considering that LJ is there...this allows them to cut ties with one of the entitled egos from the past years.

No, it is NOT very possible Portis gets cut or traded this season. As I said earlier in this thread, he's guaranteed over $6 mil this season. His 2010 salary is $7.19 mil, of which 6.43 is guaranteed. No team is going to trade for him given that guarantee, and since the Skins will be paying the guarantee whether he plays or not, they don't benefit by cutting him. 2011 is another story, where he is scheduled to receive $8+ mil and none is guaranteed.

Uhh, if he were traded there is this thing called re-structuring contracts...you might have heard about that, right? Considering it's an un-capped year and Danny is not concerned about his current spending, NOW would be the time to cut him as there is no cap hit. Again, not saying it is going to happen, but where previously it was not an option...IT'S VERY POSSIBLE that it COULD happen now.

Yeah, I've heard of restructuring, and I know there's no cap hit this year. They don't matter.Apparently YOU don't understand what guaranteed money means. You think Portis is going to restructure, giving up a guarantee, to make it easier for a team to get rid of him? As far as cap hit is concerned, guarantee is cash, dinero, real money. Cap hit isn't the issue. He's not being traded, he's not being cut in 2010. Period.Look, you believe what you want. You'll be wrong, but go ahead.

Eh, this year, anything is possible. Look, Carolina cut Delhomme who was due what, 13M? It's very possible. Just depends on which direction the team goes, especially in the draft.

 

[Couch Potato]

It's very possible that CP gets cut or traded at some point, unless he really impresses at camp. Not saying FWP is anything near CP in talent, but considering that LJ is there...this allows them to cut ties with one of the entitled egos from the past years.

No, it is NOT very possible Portis gets cut or traded this season. As I said earlier in this thread, he's guaranteed over $6 mil this season. His 2010 salary is $7.19 mil, of which 6.43 is guaranteed. No team is going to trade for him given that guarantee, and since the Skins will be paying the guarantee whether he plays or not, they don't benefit by cutting him. 2011 is another story, where he is scheduled to receive $8+ mil and none is guaranteed.

Uhh, if he were traded there is this thing called re-structuring contracts...you might have heard about that, right? Considering it's an un-capped year and Danny is not concerned about his current spending, NOW would be the time to cut him as there is no cap hit. Again, not saying it is going to happen, but where previously it was not an option...IT'S VERY POSSIBLE that it COULD happen now.

Yeah, I've heard of restructuring, and I know there's no cap hit this year. They don't matter.Apparently YOU don't understand what guaranteed money means. You think Portis is going to restructure, giving up a guarantee, to make it easier for a team to get rid of him? As far as cap hit is concerned, guarantee is cash, dinero, real money. Cap hit isn't the issue. He's not being traded, he's not being cut in 2010. Period.

Look, you believe what you want. You'll be wrong, but go ahead.

Eh, this year, anything is possible. Look, Carolina cut Delhomme who was due what, 13M? It's very possible. Just depends on which direction the team goes, especially in the draft.

This is frustrating! Delhomme was due money, but when he was cut they paid him NOTHING because he had NO GUARANTEED MONEY! Oh, hell, I give up. Arguing with message boarders is futile. I'm done posting here on this..

 

[Jewell]

At what point can we drop the "F" in FWP? It seems about time.

I bet if he was chasing you with a chain saw you'd think differently

True dat. Fast Willie Parker could catch me with Fat Albert Haynesworth on his back.

 

[slayer666]

I am one of the few that don't think FWP is washed up. Good luck, Willie -- I hope it works out for him and the 'skins.

Agreed.I could see FWP being the best bet among the three, which isn't saying much behind that offensive line.Personally, I think Portis has a fork sticking out of his butt and LJ is a basket case, who will either be involved in an off-field incident or he will ##### and moan about his playing time (if he makes the team).

 

[Black]

I am kind of hoping Shanny will sign Westbrook and Jamal Lewis so we can just package all that confusion up in one team that I won't touch with a 10 foot pole.

 

[Jewell]

I am kind of hoping Shanny will sign Westbrook and Jamal Lewis so we can just package all that confusion up in one team that I won't touch with a 10 foot pole.

This seems like a good time to mention that Shaun Alexander was last seen wearing a Redskins uni. Might as well bring him back, too.

 

[David Yudkin]

This is frustrating! Delhomme was due money, but when he was cut they paid him NOTHING because he had NO GUARANTEED MONEY! Oh, hell, I give up. Arguing with message boarders is futile. I'm done posting here on this..

Sorry CP, I think you are off on this one . . .

The Panthers are still on the hook for nearly $13 million in guaranteed money from the contract extension they gave him last spring, but making the move now keeps them from suffering any salary cap consequences because the NFL has entered into an uncapped year.

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