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FWP - Week 17 vs Baltimore's #2 Rush Defense (1 Viewer)

Limp Ditka

Limp Ditka

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FWP @ home: 7 Games

Rushing

Games - 7

Attempts - 171

Yards - 924

AVG - 5.4

TDs- 8

Receiving

Rec - 15

Yards - 199

AVG - 7.9

TDs - 1

FWP Away: 6 Games

Rushing

Attempts - 93

Yards - 275

AVG - 3.0

TDs - 2

Receiving

Rec - 14

Yards - 92

AVG - 6.6

TDs - 2

Do you have the stones to make the shark move and bench him this week?

 
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Hell no. In my leagues scoring he is the #5 RB in the league and he is my #2 RB behind LT :wub: I simply don't have better option and I can't imagine many people would.

 
Limp Ditka said:
FWP @ home: 7 Games

Rushing

Games - 7

Attempts - 171

Yards - 924

AVG - 5.4

TDs- 8

Receiving

Rec - 15

Yards - 199

AVG - 7.9

TDs - 1

FWP Away: 6 Games

Rushing

Attempts - 93

Yards - 275

AVG - 3.0

TDs - 2

Receiving

Rec - 14

Yards - 92

AVG - 6.6

TDs - 2

Do you have the stones to make the shark move and bench him this week?
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No, you dont' bench him against Carolina. They've been giving up big chunks of yardage to opposing rb's, except for SJax. Carolina's defense is beat up. Losing Morgan and having Gamble and Lucas out with pulled hammy's won't help. I think Carolina's defense has been overly hyped this year (coming from a homer here in Charlotte). Peppers has disappeared the last couple of weeks, Jenkins is jumping offsides multiple times a games and Kemoeatu has been a bust. Rucker is getting older, though still serviceable. The LB's are a complete shambles (although Thomas Davis is getting better). Minter is too old and can't cover in space any longer (see TE scoring against Carolina) and Shaun Williams is just a bigger and younger Minter with no coverage abilities. Add to the fact that Carolina's offense cannot sustain drives which causes the defense to be on the field WAY too long and you've got a recipe for another good game by Parker. It may take until the 2nd half for him to open up, but I would expect 120-150 combined yards and a TD.
 
AND.....NO ONE on Carolina's D can keep up with him. Team speed is slow with Morgan out and who dat? scrub CBs. They can't stop anyone either.

I think the Steelers roll this week. Homer here too.

 
FWP and LT are my two starters. I have Reggie Bush waiting in the wings (owner cut him a couple weeks before the 4 TD game) so I do have another option. Tough decision.

Oh, by the way....this is a TD only league. :scared:

 
Isn't there a general perception that Carolina is a much poorer team at home vs on the road. Or does this only apply to their offense?

If so, is this enough to counteract FWP's road issues?

My decision is to start two of SJAX, FWP, Taylor/MJD -- so I'm really, really considering benching FWP for MJD (just in case you care).

 
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interesting debate.

Not as big an overcoaching move like benching bulger/holt last nite.

Really it depends on your RB3, if they have a nice matchup feel free. If not, I dont think that Carolina's D has been that great, save the STL game.

edit to add: if your really on the fence, keep an eye on the Delhomme/Weinke situation, I think TroyP is coming back I think Pitt is gonna make it tough on them and have the lead and run, especially if weinke starts.

 
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raor said:
My decision is to start two of SJAX, FWP, Taylor/MJD -- so I'm really, really considering benching FWP for MJD (just in case you care).
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I think you stole my team. I personally haven't decided yet. FWP has been great, but as it has been pointed out he doesn't do as well on the road, and faces a desperate Carolina team that did pretty good against SJax and kept the Giants RB's out of the endzone.
 
TD only league....I'd start Jones-Drew over Parker @ Carolina. TD only we're probably only talking the potential difference of 0 TD vs 1 TD...the chances of either having a 3 or 4 TD blow-up game and regretting your decision either way are slim to none.

 
You have to play him... All he needs is a little crease and he's gone.... I have Addai, but FWP is a must start. While I don't see 200 yards, minimally 80 and a touch is realistic....

 
I have been pondering benching FWP...I have to start 2 of Gore, Tiki and FWP. Im going to start gore so its really between tiki and FWP...I think in the long run im going to start FWP.

 
trogg78 said:
I have been pondering benching FWP...I have to start 2 of Gore, Tiki and FWP. Im going to start gore so its really between tiki and FWP...I think in the long run im going to start FWP.
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Wow, that's tough.That Philly D's been awful, especially against the run. I think I'd side with Tiki on this one.
 
You start him against Carolina.

Against Baltimore, however, he was 12 for 37 yards. I'd sit him, and play someone with a better matchup.

Even Dayne, in week 16.

 
CAR allows alot of yards on the ground lately and are ranked middling anyway - they don't cough up as many TDs to RBs.

I say expect good yards -- his speed might get him a TD, but check expectations. But you gotta have a surefire Home Run RB to sit him. I wouldn't.

 
Captain Spaulding said:
TD only league....I'd start Jones-Drew over Parker @ Carolina. TD only we're probably only talking the potential difference of 0 TD vs 1 TD...the chances of either having a 3 or 4 TD blow-up game and regretting your decision either way are slim to none.
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As a fellow TD-only leaguer (with distance bonuses), I firmly disagree with this statement. Started FWP over MJD last week and left 33 points on my bench (vs. 6 for FWP).I know that this thread isn't about MJD, but isn't it a risky proposition to start him this week and "buy high" following last week's performance?

 
I have to start 2 of FWP, Ahman Green, and Tiki.

Ahman is def getting the start against Detroit.

Tiki against Philly or FWP against Car....It is a tough call but I'm leaning toward FWP a) he just came off a huge game (albeit @ home) 2) Tiki will still get TDs stolen by Jacobs and 3) Tiki did a decent job against Carolina last week so I would think FWP shouldn't be too bad against them.

It would take MAJOR stones to start Tiki over FWP after the game he just had. ARRRRGG!!! a) Betts ate up the Eagles last week. b) Carolina has only given up 6 TDs on the ground the whole year. This is a decision that could haunt me the whole rest of the football year if I lose by a small margin.

 
trogg78 said:
I have been pondering benching FWP...I have to start 2 of Gore, Tiki and FWP. Im going to start gore so its really between tiki and FWP...I think in the long run im going to start FWP.
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If you are into numbers, check Philly's games over the last 4-8 weeks against rushers...YIKES. :shock: They can't stop anyone. The numbers on Tiki's and FWP's sides say start Tiki and don't look back. This really is an easy decision if you think of FWP's performance last week as an anomaly.I was on the FWP side versus Tiki but after looking at the stats I'm trying to convince myself that even if FWP outscores Tiki, I made the right decision because every stat (other than fantasy points per game) says Tiki is the start. One note of caution, Tiki did not have a great game against Philly earlier this year. The Giants went down early and abandoned the run.
 
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I have to choose two out of FWP, Ladell Betts, and Steven Jackson.

I wish I could start all three of them and sit one of my WRs.

 
I have to pick between these three

S. Jackson @ OAK

W. Parker @ CAR

F. Gore @ SEA

And i think it going to be SJAX and Gore still up in the air

What do you shark think ?

 
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Leo2228 said:
I have to pick between these three S. Jackson @ OAK W. Parker @ CAR F. Gore @ SEA And i think it going to be SJAX and Gore still up in the airWhat do you shark think ?
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I don't see how anyone can sit S.Jax right now in any circumstance unless you have LJ & LT on your roster & you can only start 2.
 
salmonstud said:
Leo2228 said:
I have to pick between these three S. Jackson @ OAK W. Parker @ CAR F. Gore @ SEA And i think it going to be SJAX and Gore still up in the airWhat do you shark think ?
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I don't see how anyone can sit S.Jax right now in any circumstance unless you have LJ & LT on your roster & you can only start 2.
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Yes we can only start 2 rb SJAX a Lock and i think am going to go with FWP
 
Ozymandias said:
You start him against Carolina.Against Baltimore, however, he was 12 for 37 yards. I'd sit him, and play someone with a better matchup.Even Dayne, in week 16.
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Been thinking the exact same thing here. I been pondering playing A Green over FWP week 16. I am playing FWP week 15 though in all my leagues.
 
Leo2228 said:
salmonstud said:
Leo2228 said:
I have to pick between these three S. Jackson @ OAK W. Parker @ CAR F. Gore @ SEA And i think it going to be SJAX and Gore still up in the airWhat do you shark think ?
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I don't see how anyone can sit S.Jax right now in any circumstance unless you have LJ & LT on your roster & you can only start 2.
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Yes we can only start 2 rb SJAX a Lock and i think am going to go with FWP
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Willie plays better at home; Gore scored 28 pts for me last time he played Sea.
 
It all depends on Fragile Freddy T. If he can't go, I will sit Willie for MJD. If Taylor plays, then I will stick with Parker.

 
have same problem. have to decide between

FWP @ CAR

Shaun Alexander v SF

Ahman Green v DET

Right now lean toward SA and Ahman, but sure seems crazy to bench FWP after such a huge game...

 
I have LJ, MJD, FWP, Tatum Bell and Jacobs, starting three.

Right now I'm starting LJ, MJD, and Tatum and leaving FWP on the bench. :pics:

 
What kind of number do you guys think Gore will put up against Sea. @ SEA

vs FWP @ CAR

 
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BAT1man said:
' said:
Limp Ditka said:
Do you have the stones to make the shark move and bench him this week?
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Yep I am benching him...In a 12-team league, I am starting Tatum Bell, Larry Johnson and Sammy Morris ahead of him...
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I am curious why you would bench FWP for Sammy Morris this week? :bag:
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Because Buffalo is giving up almost 140 yards on the ground a game and he shredded the Patriots defense last week...Plus Parker isn't as good on the road...
 
theswami said:
trogg78 said:
I have been pondering benching FWP...I have to start 2 of Gore, Tiki and FWP. Im going to start gore so its really between tiki and FWP...I think in the long run im going to start FWP.
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If you are into numbers, check Philly's games over the last 4-8 weeks against rushers...YIKES. :lmao: They can't stop anyone. The numbers on Tiki's and FWP's sides say start Tiki and don't look back. This really is an easy decision if you think of FWP's performance last week as an anomaly.I was on the FWP side versus Tiki but after looking at the stats I'm trying to convince myself that even if FWP outscores Tiki, I made the right decision because every stat (other than fantasy points per game) says Tiki is the start. One note of caution, Tiki did not have a great game against Philly earlier this year. The Giants went down early and abandoned the run.
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For some reason I just see philly getting ahead early and the giants completely blowing the game. I also see Pittsburgh getting ahead early against carolina and giving FWP a lot of carries.My biggest concern is that tiki and FWP will not give me comparable scores and one of them is going to blow it. My gut says tiki does not have a good game and its even more gut wrenching to go against your gut.
 
Leo2228 said:
What kind of number do you guys think Gore will put up against Sea. @ SEAvs FWP @ CAR
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Here are last 5 starting RBs vs. Carolina:NYG - Tiki Barber - 118 rush/rec yards, 0 tdPHI - Westbrook - 124 rush/rec, 1 td WASH - Betts - 108 rush/rec, 0 tdSTL - Jackson - 57 rush/rec, 0 tdTB - Caddy Williams - 44 rush/rec, 0 tdAs PIT is a slightly stronger rushing team than these. I'd say Parker:HIGH END - 100 yards + 50/50 chance of TDLOW END - 60 yards, 0 TDIntangibles to keep in mind:1. This is a must win for each team.2. Steelers rushing yards/carry on the road is much lower than at home.3. But this is a homecoming of sorts for Parker, who went to U of North Carolina. Might be lots of family around.Personally, I'm taking my chances.
 
jetpack said:
Here are last 5 starting RBs vs. Carolina:NYG - Tiki Barber - 118 rush/rec yards, 0 tdPHI - Westbrook - 124 rush/rec, 1 td WASH - Betts - 108 rush/rec, 0 tdSTL - Jackson - 57 rush/rec, 0 tdTB - Caddy Williams - 44 rush/rec, 0 tdAs PIT is a slightly stronger rushing team than these. I'd say Parker:HIGH END - 100 yards + 50/50 chance of TDLOW END - 60 yards, 0 TDIntangibles to keep in mind:1. This is a must win for each team.2. Steelers rushing yards/carry on the road is much lower than at home.3. But this is a homecoming of sorts for Parker, who went to U of North Carolina. Might be lots of family around.Personally, I'm taking my chances.
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I would bump up the high end of your projections a little but I think they are reasonable. As for the intangibles:1. Yes, but probably more so for Carolina who have a legitimate chance of the playoffs. The Steelers still have a shot mathematically but the odds are so remote that calling it a longshot is being generous.2. True but as I pointed out yesterday it is more of a case of playing tougher run defenses on the road than it is an "away vs home" thing.3. Agreed. FWP grew up in North Carolina and was virtually ignored at UNC. He would love to have a big game at home.
 
' said:
Limp Ditka said:
Do you have the stones to make the shark move and bench him this week?
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Yep I am benching him...In a 12-team league, I am starting Tatum Bell, Larry Johnson and Sammy Morris ahead of him...
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Wow, you have two stud RB in Parker and Johnson yet neither look like a good play this week. I think I'd go Parker over Johnson. But then again isn't there a chance Brown will be back thus meaning you need both of them?
 
The Grizzly One said:
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Limp Ditka said:
Do you have the stones to make the shark move and bench him this week?
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Yep I am benching him...In a 12-team league, I am starting Tatum Bell, Larry Johnson and Sammy Morris ahead of him...
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Wow, you have two stud RB in Parker and Johnson yet neither look like a good play this week. I think I'd go Parker over Johnson. But then again isn't there a chance Brown will be back thus meaning you need both of them?
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If Brown is back, I would start him instead of Parker... The only way Parker starts is if one of these three are out...
 
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