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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (4 Viewers)

flapgreen said:
Never been a show anywhere near Game of Thrones.  Doubt there ever will be
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It's either this show or Breaking Bad for me. As great as The Sopranos was it had some moments where some of its storylines got so bad I couldn't stomach watching them. And don't get me started on the ending. Breaking Bad nailed its ending. We'll see how GOT does when that time comes.   

 
I watched the most recent episode for a second time last night, and think that could have been the greatest cavalry battle we have ever seen in cinema.  I loved Braveheart, and they set the bar for huge battles, but CGI has made things possible that weren't back then.  The combination of real horses, and CGI made it incredibly realistic.  Instead of just seeing horses beside people fighting, we got to see what it would be like in a violent battle.  The speed of everything was amazing.  The violent collisions, and when the Knights Vale split the ground troops were awesome.  I loved the aerial camera view of that scene.  The 1st person view of arrows and catapults never gets old.  I think 300 was the first film to do that with arrows.

 
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Based on what we saw this episode and assuming the battle vs. the White Walkers is the show's final battle that could be ridiculous in terms of its scale and what we could see. 

 
packersfan said:
It's either this show or Breaking Bad for me. As great as The Sopranos was it had some moments where some of its storylines got so bad I couldn't stomach watching them. And don't get me started on the ending. Breaking Bad nailed its ending. We'll see how GOT does when that time comes.   
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I have a bad feeling it's going to be horribly cheesy, like ewoks in Jedi bad

Gonna be danny riding dragons torching walkers and a combined ground force with a bunch of dragon glass weapons that fat Sam figures out how to make

 
IMAX 3D said:
I have a bad feeling it's going to be horribly cheesy, like ewoks in Jedi bad

Gonna be danny riding dragons torching walkers and a combined ground force with a bunch of dragon glass weapons that fat Sam figures out how to make
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Don't see how you can make that comparison at all. Who/what are the ewoks in this scenario? Because the thing that made it so cheesy was the terrible toddler teddy bears taking on advanced weaponry. Don't see it.

On top of that,  you really don't trust these guys with huge battle set pieces at this point? I could have predicted and plotted out 85% of this past episode and it was still incredible due to flawless execution. If what you described is generally the ending (who knows at this point), it will still be awesome. 

 
Quez said:
I watched the most recent episode for a second time last night, and think that could have been the greatest cavalry battle we have ever seen in cinema.  I loved Braveheart, and they set the bar for huge battles, but CGI has made things possible that weren't back then.  The combination of real horses, and CGI made it incredibly realistic.  Instead of just seeing horses beside people fighting, we got to see what it would be like in a violent battle.  The speed of everything was amazing.  The violent collisions, and when the Knights Vale split the ground troops were awesome.  I loved the aerial camera view of that scene.  The 1st person view of arrows and catapults never gets old.  I think 300 was the first film to do that with arrows.
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Agreed. Braveheart is/was one of my favorite movies but one of the things that always bothered me was the atrocious background fighting. Obviously untrained extras just really mailing it in. 

Which came first, Gladiator or 300? Both had those arrow scenes that drown out the sun. 

 
Chadstroma said:
Sorry, for me, this was the best battle of GoT and honestly best "era" (fantasy or not) battle scene ever, whether it is film or TV. I love what they did in this. The scenes of Jon Snow in the middle of the scrum were amazing. I think they captured the chaos of a battle in that "era" better than I have ever seen.

  1. Battle of the Bastards
  2. Hardhomme
  3. Wall
  4. Blackwater
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Quez said:
I watched the most recent episode for a second time last night, and think that could have been the greatest cavalry battle we have ever seen in cinema.  I loved Braveheart, and they set the bar for huge battles, but CGI has made things possible that weren't back then.  The combination of real horses, and CGI made it incredibly realistic.  Instead of just seeing horses beside people fighting, we got to see what it would be like in a violent battle.  The speed of everything was amazing.  The violent collisions, and when the Knights Vale split the ground troops were awesome.  I loved the aerial camera view of that scene.  The 1st person view of arrows and catapults never gets old.  I think 300 was the first film to do that with arrows.
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:goodposting: s.  I agree, amazing.  Speaking of that "era" I thought for sure I caught a writers mistake with the use of the term "full tilt" being a poker or pinball term.   :bag:   Turns out that's a very appropriate term for this era.  These writers don't miss a beat unlike some of the popular shows we discuss in here.  

 
Scoresman said:
Plot hole: Why didnt Jon ask Melanie Sanders to resurrect Rickon?
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Besides the fact that it is clear that she doesn't have the power to resurrect just anyone (with or without the Lord of the Light), she didn't think she could bring nor thought it worked bringing Jon back.  But,

Rickon isn't needed for the story, Jon isn't really a *******.
 
Just rewatched battle of the basterds.  Great episode.  Enjoyed just as much second time.  That battle scene was so well done

 
need2know said:
Just rewatched battle of the basterds.  Great episode.  Enjoyed just as much second time.  That battle scene was so well done
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I've watched it three now. It's just amazing. The Merreen stuff was great too. For as much hype as it got the episode more than delivered.  

 
Are we just accepting tim's statement that Joffrey and Ramsay are the two greatest villains in tv history?  Joffrey maybe, but Ramsay was just a coont.

 
Scoresman said:
How the hell is Eric Dondarion needed for the story, and he was resurrected multiple times.
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One thing I don't particularly like are the numerous side stories that don't mean much for the main plot.  They probably fill pages for the books, but, it's kind of distracting for me.  He's either being set up for a final conflict resolution of Arya's story line and/or he provides some introspective to what Jon is going through.  

 
Scoresman said:
Are we just accepting tim's statement that Joffrey and Ramsay are the two greatest villains in tv history?  Joffrey maybe, but Ramsay was just a coont.
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I'm not sure either of them would crack the Top 10. I don't even know if I'd vote for them for either of them as the greatest villain on this show. My vote would go to Tywin.   

 
tonydead said:
One thing I don't particularly like are the numerous side stories that don't mean much for the main plot.  They probably fill pages for the books, but, it's kind of distracting for me.  He's either being set up for a final conflict resolution of Arya's story line and/or he provides some introspective to what Jon is going through.  
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The thing I have always liked about Martin's writing and what I find that makes it different and compelling far above most other fiction is that everything is very character driven versus most everything else is very storyline driven. It is what makes us :shock:  when Ned gets his head chopped off. In storyline driven writing, you don't kill what at that point seemed to be the hero of the story. But Martin does because then the story seeks other characters to be the hero. What that means is that you will have a lot of other stuff written that may or may not have direct or indirect or no direct relation to the overall story arc.

 
Chadstroma said:
The thing I have always liked about Martin's writing and what I find that makes it different and compelling far above most other fiction is that everything is very character driven versus most everything else is very storyline driven. It is what makes us :shock:  when Ned gets his head chopped off. In storyline driven writing, you don't kill what at that point seemed to be the hero of the story. But Martin does because then the story seeks other characters to be the hero. What that means is that you will have a lot of other stuff written that may or may not have direct or indirect or no direct relation to the overall story arc.
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Agree, just not sure that's translating to tv very well.  Some of the story lines on tv I could care less about some of the time.  Arya and Sam this season for example, I'm sure they're great in the books.   

ETA: Then again I like the Hound's side story, so I guess it all depends on what you relate to.

 
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tonydead said:
Agree, just not sure that's translating to tv very well.  Some of the story lines on tv I could care less about some of the time.  Arya and Sam this season for example, I'm sure they're great in the books.   
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No,  Sams storyline in the books is boring as hell. 

 
tonydead said:
Agree, just not sure that's translating to tv very well.  Some of the story lines on tv I could care less about some of the time.  Arya and Sam this season for example, I'm sure they're great in the books.   

ETA: Then again I like the Hound's side story, so I guess it all depends on what you relate to.
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Well, the show producers have made many changes to make it more tv friendly. It would be also important to note that we haven't seen how this all comes together in the end. Who knows if Sam, Arya or the Hound have a more meaningful impact on the story arc than we might see now. I am pretty sure Arya will in the least.

 
So much awesome in that episode, cannot wait to watch it again tonight.

Looking at next weeks title I don't see how we don't get some white walker action

 
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