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Before this week's episode, I think the common thought was either the Queen of Thorns or Margery. Since Margery seemed surprised at her grandmother's admission, I say its pretty certain grandma took the missing gem from Sansa's necklace and, at some point, put in Joffery's food or wine.
no clue, seemed like a plan doomed to fail. How littlefinger would even know she would wear it to the wedding for sure seems far fechted. I suppose they wanted her involved for some reason....
Yeah, I get why they had this whole elaborate plan to tie Sansa into the death somehow, but in actuality, it was complete nonsense since grandma didn't need to act shady and "pickpocket" a vial from the necklace and could have just already had the damn bottle in her palm ready to squeeze. The writing on this show is clever, but sometimes it gets a bit too cutesy like this where it really doesn't make any logical sense when you think about it.
Not a spoiler, just my guess.
Most plots need some sort of patsy to fall back on. The grandmothers limiting her risk by Sansa muleing the thing in.
Actually makes sense. If Sansa was somehow caught after the wedding they blame her and they would find the poison on her body still. Still doesn't answer why the grandma needed to actually lift the poison from Sansa, just having Sansa wearing the poison was enough for their plan in case she got caught. I am satisfied with the plan now!
if sansa needed to be framed, she would also need to be missing a stone for it to work.
Well she was being held captive until now where she is sort of free. It's not like she had anywhere to run while being Joff's tormentee. Her dad was dead and her mom and brother were fighting a war in the North.
That't the youngest Stark, Rickon. He's with the Wilding woman Osha in hiding with one of the Stark bannerman (I think). When they separated Osha was supposed to take him to someone's house for safe keeping.
In case anyone found the necklace, he made sure they would notice the gems were poison.
thanks for this. It is insane how many characters this show packs in. The thing with Khaleesi is every single season seems like the same exact path they go with her, she has trouble winning over new soldiers and then convinces them with logic and honesty that they should stick with her and kill their masters. But the execution is impeccable, I could watch a full hour Khaleesi episode and not get bored.
you are right...forgot about that
Sansa was wearing the necklace. Remember when she went to Sansa to tell her about how sorry she was that basically her entire family is now dead? If you remember that scene you may recall that she touched Sansa.... well, to be more accurate.... she touched Sansa's necklace. Got it from there?Juxtatarot said:
'member Tyrion's words..... "Sansa is not a murderer...... yet."SaintsInDome2006 said:
Not sure if it needs a spoiler at this point, but:
Not that I have picked up on other than the fact they are the true heads of the 2 most important families in Westeros and while both respect each other, they don't like each other so there is a ton of animosity.
I think what he was trying to say is that he was posting in the wrong thread.
Not much is known about Littlefinger's family/past but he is most certainly not the head of one of the most important families in Westeros.
What makes you think that? I think he's trying to figure out how Littlefinger & Olenna got together to plot the murder of Joffrey.
I prefer it to the alternative.
Well, he's married to the Cat Stark's sister, who's child is heir to the Vale (one of the 7 kingdoms I believe). Plus he's Lord of Harrenhall - a big ### castle. The Baelish family may not have been too important a few short years ago, but it's certainly been quite upwardly mobile recently.
I think she has a bit of penis envy and very much dislikes the idea that she can't be a recognized ruler (cause lets face it...she's the leader of that family behind closed doors) and he's a guy who recognizes that the Tyrells are essential to building his legacy...... but I don't think they dislike each other.
And he has possession of what is believed to be the last Stark which could effectively give him position to marry her to another major family and take back the North. There are only a handful of true power players and LF is very high on the list.
You mean being hopelessly naive and making decisions that will ultimately get her and those that surround her killed by more cunning and ruthless families and people?
Darwinism has weeded out the hopelessly stupid Starks - Ned, Cat and Robb - although not before each of them managed to do a fair bit of damage to the family.
I skip the opening credits. Waaaay too long and if you've seen the cool Lego creations once you've seen it enough.
Throooones, yeah
yep. no chance I am watching those opening credits again
What are we, Chelsea fans?
