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Game of Thrones, tv only, books don't exist, no backstory...NERDS already ruining a series that hasn't started (6 Viewers)

culdeus said:
shadyridr said:
Can someone remind me, why is Bran looking for the three-eyed raven? Just cuz he saw it in his dream?
Something like that. And he's fairly close to that red tree isn't he? so his story line might be nearing something actually happening unlike seemingly every other storyline.

One of my favorite things about this show.

John Snow takes a dagger probably 3 inches into his quad which is pulled out and he's writhing on the floor. Maybe 10 minutes later he's up walking around.
I love how the guy turns his back and ignores the fact that Snow is still alive too...

 
culdeus said:
Ok, I have a few questions.

-So Littlefinger started the whole thing right? He got the Starks and Lannisters to kill/bankrupt themselves with a murder, and now wants to marry Sansa to what is perhaps his son? to secure the north for himself while having lordships in two key areas. Guy is crafty.
Knowing what we know now...Who does Tywin think killed Jon Arryn then? It's a major move from someone outside his family.

Littlefinger is getting in deep.

 
otello said:
Explain the interaction early in the episode when Margery said to Cersei that, with all the weddings coming up, she didn't know whether to call Cersei sister or mom?
:lmao:
I thought it was an interesting move considering she had said she would strangle her in her sleep if she ever called her sister again.
Between that and sneaking into Tommen's room in the previous episode, it seems like that chat with Olenna (we do what must be done, paraphrasing) had some kind of effect. That chick's got some stones on her. And weird tits.

 
culdeus said:
Ok, I have a few questions.

-So Littlefinger started the whole thing right? He got the Starks and Lannisters to kill/bankrupt themselves with a murder, and now wants to marry Sansa to what is perhaps his son? to secure the north for himself while having lordships in two key areas. Guy is crafty.
Knowing what we know now...Who does Tywin think killed Jon Arryn then? It's a major move from someone outside his family.

Littlefinger is getting in deep.
Maybe Tywin doesn't know any more than anyone else, but perhaps he suspects Cersei, which would be natural for anyone knowing the family secret of her and Jaime, and perhaps that's one reason to back her to the point of war, and also perhaps he doesn't care as long as his heirs land on the throne, which they have.

All this perhaps Littlefinger could have counted on happening.

 
otello said:
Explain the interaction early in the episode when Margery said to Cersei that, with all the weddings coming up, she didn't know whether to call Cersei sister or mom?
:lmao:
I thought it was an interesting move considering she had said she would strangle her in her sleep if she ever called her sister again.
Alliances shift with the changing situation.

 
culdeus said:
Ok, I have a few questions.

-So Littlefinger started the whole thing right? He got the Starks and Lannisters to kill/bankrupt themselves with a murder, and now wants to marry Sansa to what is perhaps his son? to secure the north for himself while having lordships in two key areas. Guy is crafty.

-When they burned crasters keep is the fire big enough to confuse the wildlings to attack before they have reinforcements. If so, that would be pretty funny/ironic.
Wow, that never occurred to me, but I can easily see it. That would actually be quite fantastic. I can only hope Benioff and Weiss resist the temptation to score it with the "Benny Hill" theme.
I seriously doubt that fire could be seen over a 70 story tall wall. It's not like Crastor's Keep is a mile right outside the wall either - it's days worth of walking to get there.

 
I was hammered while watching last night, and just vaguely remember Tywin talking about how their mines aren't producing gold. Someone wanna give me cliff notes on what the deal is? Something about the crown and the bank and yada yada gold.

 
I was hammered while watching last night, and just vaguely remember Tywin talking about how their mines aren't producing gold. Someone wanna give me cliff notes on what the deal is? Something about the crown and the bank and yada yada gold.
lannisters ran out of gold, need tyrells help to keep iron bank at bay

 
I was hammered while watching last night, and just vaguely remember Tywin talking about how their mines aren't producing gold. Someone wanna give me cliff notes on what the deal is? Something about the crown and the bank and yada yada gold.
lannisters ran out of gold, need tyrells help to keep iron bank at bay
Gotcha. It seemed like there was more to it or I was missing something. Guess not.

 
culdeus said:
Ok, I have a few questions.

-So Littlefinger started the whole thing right? He got the Starks and Lannisters to kill/bankrupt themselves with a murder, and now wants to marry Sansa to what is perhaps his son? to secure the north for himself while having lordships in two key areas. Guy is crafty.

-When they burned crasters keep is the fire big enough to confuse the wildlings to attack before they have reinforcements. If so, that would be pretty funny/ironic.
Wow, that never occurred to me, but I can easily see it. That would actually be quite fantastic. I can only hope Benioff and Weiss resist the temptation to score it with the "Benny Hill" theme.
I seriously doubt that fire could be seen over a 70 story tall wall. It's not like Crastor's Keep is a mile right outside the wall either - it's days worth of walking to get there.
Isn't the Keep north of the wall where the wildlings are? (see what I did there?) Why would they need to see it over the wall? I could be way off here, I've never looked at the map, but did Mance say he was going to light the fire near the wall? I don't recall him ever giving such specifics.

 
culdeus said:
Ok, I have a few questions.

-So Littlefinger started the whole thing right? He got the Starks and Lannisters to kill/bankrupt themselves with a murder, and now wants to marry Sansa to what is perhaps his son? to secure the north for himself while having lordships in two key areas. Guy is crafty.

-When they burned crasters keep is the fire big enough to confuse the wildlings to attack before they have reinforcements. If so, that would be pretty funny/ironic.
Wow, that never occurred to me, but I can easily see it. That would actually be quite fantastic. I can only hope Benioff and Weiss resist the temptation to score it with the "Benny Hill" theme.
I seriously doubt that fire could be seen over a 70 story tall wall. It's not like Crastor's Keep is a mile right outside the wall either - it's days worth of walking to get there.
Isn't the Keep north of the wall where the wildlings are? (see what I did there?) Why would they need to see it over the wall? I could be way off here, I've never looked at the map, but did Mance say he was going to light the fire near the wall? I don't recall him ever giving such specifics.
Mance is lighting the fire North of the wall that will signal the wildlings south of the wall to attack.

 
Interesting with Arya and saying the names of people she wanted revenge on. That is what Yoren told her back in season 2 when she asked how he sleeps at night

 
culdeus said:
Ok, I have a few questions.

-So Littlefinger started the whole thing right? He got the Starks and Lannisters to kill/bankrupt themselves with a murder, and now wants to marry Sansa to what is perhaps his son? to secure the north for himself while having lordships in two key areas. Guy is crafty.
Knowing what we know now...Who does Tywin think killed Jon Arryn then? It's a major move from someone outside his family.Littlefinger is getting in deep.
I know that we need plot twists to make it a good story, but it is awful convenient that team Lanister wouldn't have said "well then who did kill John if we didn't" sometime around season 1-2.

 
culdeus said:
Ok, I have a few questions.

-So Littlefinger started the whole thing right? He got the Starks and Lannisters to kill/bankrupt themselves with a murder, and now wants to marry Sansa to what is perhaps his son? to secure the north for himself while having lordships in two key areas. Guy is crafty.
Knowing what we know now...Who does Tywin think killed Jon Arryn then? It's a major move from someone outside his family.

Littlefinger is getting in deep.
Maybe Tywin doesn't know any more than anyone else, but perhaps he suspects Cersei, which would be natural for anyone knowing the family secret of her and Jaime, and perhaps that's one reason to back her to the point of war, and also perhaps he doesn't care as long as his heirs land on the throne, which they have.

All this perhaps Littlefinger could have counted on happening.
Maybe...but seems like a stretch to me to make a move like that without Tywin's approval...unless you are the out-of-control Joffrey.

Hard to know though exactly what decisions Tywin has been in on...killing Robert...trying to kill Tyrion...I assumed all of them.

 
culdeus said:
Ok, I have a few questions.

-So Littlefinger started the whole thing right? He got the Starks and Lannisters to kill/bankrupt themselves with a murder, and now wants to marry Sansa to what is perhaps his son? to secure the north for himself while having lordships in two key areas. Guy is crafty.
Knowing what we know now...Who does Tywin think killed Jon Arryn then? It's a major move from someone outside his family.Littlefinger is getting in deep.
I know that we need plot twists to make it a good story, but it is awful convenient that team Lanister wouldn't have said "well then who did kill John if we didn't" sometime around season 1-2.
Exactly...if Tywin wasn't in on it, he sure as hell would have asked Cercei about and found out she didn't do it.

 
culdeus said:
Ok, I have a few questions.

-So Littlefinger started the whole thing right? He got the Starks and Lannisters to kill/bankrupt themselves with a murder, and now wants to marry Sansa to what is perhaps his son? to secure the north for himself while having lordships in two key areas. Guy is crafty.
Knowing what we know now...Who does Tywin think killed Jon Arryn then? It's a major move from someone outside his family.Littlefinger is getting in deep.
I know that we need plot twists to make it a good story, but it is awful convenient that team Lanister wouldn't have said "well then who did kill John if we didn't" sometime around season 1-2.
It's been awhile since I've watched season 1, but I thought everyone believed Jon Arryn got sick and died and that poison was just a guess? Nobody actually knew he was poisoned and the only reason anyone thought that to begin with was because Lysa sent the letter to Winterfell.
 
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Is the leader of the mutinous Crows played by the same guy that was one of the geeky scientists in Pacific Rim?
The mutinous Crow leader also plays a British officer in the AMC new series, Turn, while the other recognizable mutinous Crow, Rast, the one who tried to run at the end, plays a Colonial in Turn.

I tend to watch them one after another, a little surreal seeing them in both series back to back like that.

 
I was hammered while watching last night, and just vaguely remember Tywin talking about how their mines aren't producing gold. Someone wanna give me cliff notes on what the deal is? Something about the crown and the bank and yada yada gold.
lannisters ran out of gold, need tyrells help to keep iron bank at bay
Gotcha. It seemed like there was more to it or I was missing something. Guess not.
Tywin went on to explain what the Iron Bank really is and it's not this brick building on the corner of Main St. Made it seem like it was a bit of a mysterious sort of consortium of people with money. So, when you owe money (like the Lannister's do) it's not as simple as killing one guy or taking one piece of land and making that debt disappear. The "Iron Bank" gets what's owed in the end.

 
Why is Cersei so positive that Tyrion killed Joffrey? Why does she hate Tyrion so much?
I don't think that she truly believes he did it. She just wants to see him die. She hasn't forgiven him for sending her daughter to Dorne and he's managed to deprive her of "justice" as it pertains to Sansa as well. Plus, she still probably resents him for "killing" her mother during childbirth.

Plus, she really can't stand midgets.

 
I was hammered while watching last night, and just vaguely remember Tywin talking about how their mines aren't producing gold. Someone wanna give me cliff notes on what the deal is? Something about the crown and the bank and yada yada gold.
lannisters ran out of gold, need tyrells help to keep iron bank at bay
Gotcha. It seemed like there was more to it or I was missing something. Guess not.
Tywin went on to explain what the Iron Bank really is and it's not this brick building on the corner of Main St. Made it seem like it was a bit of a mysterious sort of consortium of people with money. So, when you owe money (like the Lannister's do) it's not as simple as killing one guy or taking one piece of land and making that debt disappear. The "Iron Bank" gets what's owed in the end.
I'd imagine the Iron Bank is a bit like borrowing money from Paulie Walnuts or some other Mafia jabroni. He's going to get his...be it in the form of money + interest or your fingers.

 
I was hammered while watching last night, and just vaguely remember Tywin talking about how their mines aren't producing gold. Someone wanna give me cliff notes on what the deal is? Something about the crown and the bank and yada yada gold.
lannisters ran out of gold, need tyrells help to keep iron bank at bay
Gotcha. It seemed like there was more to it or I was missing something. Guess not.
Tywin went on to explain what the Iron Bank really is and it's not this brick building on the corner of Main St. Made it seem like it was a bit of a mysterious sort of consortium of people with money. So, when you owe money (like the Lannister's do) it's not as simple as killing one guy or taking one piece of land and making that debt disappear. The "Iron Bank" gets what's owed in the end.
I'd imagine the Iron Bank is a bit like borrowing money from Paulie Walnuts or some other Mafia jabroni. He's going to get his...be it in the form of money + interest or your fingers.
I would be so happy if a couple of episodes from now, Tywin rounds a corner and Tony Sirico is standing there in medieval garb tapping his palm with a lead pipe.

 
culdeus said:
Ok, I have a few questions.

-So Littlefinger started the whole thing right? He got the Starks and Lannisters to kill/bankrupt themselves with a murder, and now wants to marry Sansa to what is perhaps his son? to secure the north for himself while having lordships in two key areas. Guy is crafty.
Knowing what we know now...Who does Tywin think killed Jon Arryn then? It's a major move from someone outside his family.Littlefinger is getting in deep.
I know that we need plot twists to make it a good story, but it is awful convenient that team Lanister wouldn't have said "well then who did kill John if we didn't" sometime around season 1-2.
It's been awhile since I've watched season 1, but I thought everyone believed Jon Arryn got sick and died and that poison was just a guess? Nobody actually knew he was poisoned and the only reason anyone thought that to begin with was because Lysa sent the letter to Winterfell.
Good info...but back to my point about LF getting in deep...Tywin may know by now the Arryn was poisoned, and wondering who out there has the giant pair of balls.

On that note...Varys has been pretty quiet lately.

 
feels like the lannister world is crumbling, if they havnt mined gold in years, they are basically pulling a fast on on everyone.

Sounds like the bank will come calling, this is the second time Tywin has mentioned it.

 
feels like the lannister world is crumbling, if they havnt mined gold in years, they are basically pulling a fast on on everyone.

Sounds like the bank will come calling, this is the second time Tywin has mentioned it.
It looks like the Iron Bank may be in some scenes next week, by the previews.
 
How do the Lannisters get to say they always pay their debts if they owe big cash to the Iron Bank?

Seems like their slogan is bogus man.

 
How do the Lannisters get to say they always pay their debts if they owe big cash to the Iron Bank?

Seems like their slogan is bogus man.
isn't it more that the crown owes the iron bank? it was said littlefinger was borrowing from the bank and the lannisters. probably more of an issue now for tywin since the lannisters have control of said crown.

 
otello said:
Explain the interaction early in the episode when Margery said to Cersei that, with all the weddings coming up, she didn't know whether to call Cersei sister or mom?
:lmao:
I thought it was an interesting move considering she had said she would strangle her in her sleep if she ever called her sister again.
Alliances shift with the changing situation.
In this case, didn't this scene between Cersei and Margaery happen just AFTER the scene where Tywin tells Cersei how much the crown needs the Tyrell's money. Certainly explains Cersei's change of heart in how she interacted with Margaery in that scene.

 
I was hammered while watching last night, and just vaguely remember Tywin talking about how their mines aren't producing gold. Someone wanna give me cliff notes on what the deal is? Something about the crown and the bank and yada yada gold.
lannisters ran out of gold, need tyrells help to keep iron bank at bay
Gotcha. It seemed like there was more to it or I was missing something. Guess not.
Tywin went on to explain what the Iron Bank really is and it's not this brick building on the corner of Main St. Made it seem like it was a bit of a mysterious sort of consortium of people with money. So, when you owe money (like the Lannister's do) it's not as simple as killing one guy or taking one piece of land and making that debt disappear. The "Iron Bank" gets what's owed in the end.
I'd imagine the Iron Bank is a bit like borrowing money from Paulie Walnuts or some other Mafia jabroni. He's going to get his...be it in the form of money + interest or your fingers.
I would be so happy if a couple of episodes from now, Tywin rounds a corner and Tony Sirico is standing there in medieval garb tapping his palm with a lead pipe.
LOL!

We always envision Clay Davis from The Wire as a political in Kings Landing.......

"Gold Launderin'? They gonna come talk to me about Gold Launderin' in West King's Landing?.....SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.... Where do you think I'm gonna raise coins for the whole damn ticket?... From Gin Alley and ####, from some tiny ### Flea Bottom groceries. You think I got time to ask a man why he given me gold or where he gets his gold from,...... I'll take any motha####er's money if he given it away!"

 
If a Lannister always pays there debts then LF ran up the tab of the crown to #### them over.

Littlefinger is like Batman and Frank Underwood in one

 
Amazing what can happen when you combine 3 bottles of fine Dornish wine and a runaway game of Truth or Dare on a stormy night at Casterly Rock.
Same thing used to happen at fraggle rock. I seem to remember the directors notes in the box set saying Boober was born after Gobo and Wembley had one too many glasses of trash juice with Red. Ne also said he was glad they cancelled the show before it added dragons and zombies or a smoke monster or something.

 
Not a big fan of this Iron Bank nonsense, seems like a stretch to me. I'm admittedly not up to speed on my history books, but I sincerely doubt that there was an actual banking system back in the time of dragons. Seems like something that wasn't invented for quite awhile later...

 

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