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The Kingsguard are supposed to guard the King, or the prince (Rhaegar). There are a few subtle hints in the dialogue of the Tower of Joy scene, essentially hinting that the Kingsguard were in fact there to guard the eldest son of the eldest son of the king.
Yes. The whole point of his big finale is to show 2 things. 1. R+L=J Who is parents are. 2. Bran knows. So there's no need for Sam to figure it out or anyone else. Bran has the information.
Who's going to believe him, a cripple kid who talked to a tree? Yeah, that guy who's my half brother is really my cousin, and thus the king.
I think the presumption is that Ned brought the kid back to Winterfell - Reed, at a minimum would know the mother - and the entire war was fought because people assumed Rhaegar kidnapped Lyana - so it would not be a stretch to figure out the father.
He did have two swords. Everyone else just had the one.Sir Arthur Dayne cheated?
How dare you.
He's becoming much more that just a cripple kid.
Didn't realize that would be the last name (so like Snow, just for an area south). Reed would also realize it just for the fact that the Kingsguard were there, right? They wouldn't be there just to protect Lyanna alone, especially during a rebellion.
Just implied. Internet took the rest. But it's hard to ignore the signs they gave as anything but.
IF Rheagar married Lysanna I'd imagine there has to be some sort of record on it....at least to give him legitimacy.*KarmaPolice said:
I think legitimacy is long gone in the seven kingdoms. Who ever takes it is the ruler.
I know folks said this already happened with the Ironborn - and just spit-balling here from what I learned on the last page....but could that be more figurative than literal? If Jon Snow is actually Jon Water, and he took back Winterfell with the BoB, wouldn't it be under Water's rule?
Technically he is already in charge of Winterfell - they beat the Boltons, and then the Northern Houses declared Jon to be King o'the North
didn't she basically just blow up one big building/block of the city? Jamie's reaction will be interesting regardless!
Right. When was Jojen's forecast again? Wasn't it when Jon wasn't in charge of Winterfell, or am I thinking of something else?
The further into the story we get, does anyone feel at this point Jamie pushing Bran out of the window was completely out of character? I kinda wish now that Cersei pushed him and Jamie just took the blame for it when captured later on.
It wasn't out of character. He killed a lannister boy who was all excited to have squired for him a decade ago because he needed a diversion to get out of his cell. He also wanted brien to kill the random farmer they saw when she was walking him to kings landing because who knows, they might recognize him. Why wouldn't he kill a stark boy who could have revealed a secret that could take down his family's claim to the throne?
A little out of character, but not much.
No I think it was completely in character for him at the time. He thought his #### didn't stink and was above the law. He's since been knocked down a few pegs and has a change of character. Prior to the losses he suffered in the war he was pretty much an undefeated, golden spoon, didn't care a lick about peasants kinda guy. Since, he's been humbled, lost his sword hand, gotten the #### beaten out of him by Bronn trying to re-learn swordplay and been essentially booted to the curb by probably the only person he every truly loved, Cersei. That tends to give one a different perspective and rather than continue on with his hoity toity attitude he is changing as he begins to see the world through a different set of eyes.
And I'm not real sure Jamie ever gave a #### about the kids. He was solely focused on Cersei but I've never gotten the feeling that he cared a bit about the kids.
I think he did moreso as his character changed. I thought there were a couple of scenes were he was legitimately trying to be fatherly with Tommen ( I think when Joffery was laid out in the church).
When Joffrey was laid out, Jamie banged his sister on the floor next to him. Now that kind of behavior doesn't appeal much to me but I'm not exactly sure what kind of conclusions I should draw about his character from that incident.
LOL!.... Funerals and sex. Goes together like bullets and guns.
I'm sure its tricky being fatherly when you can't let anyone know (even the kids) that you're the dad.
Read it on my phone a few days ago, then watched episode 8, season 6 last night (No One). Really the theory is that Jaqen has actually been Ned since they met way back in season 1 (maybe season 2). I'd forgotten Jaqen went that far back in the story.
He also went out on a fairly dangerous limb for the daughter whose name I can't spell but whose delectable young rack I was entranced by. And was very gentle with her during their brief time together on the ship.
Yeah, this is the trouble when you introduce stuff like shapeshifters and people who can change faces into a story. Now even when they are dead, they might not be dead. (Combined that with them playing that card a bit more as the series went with characters like Jon and The Hound).
Jon, definitely. Did anyone think the Hound was dead, though? You never saw a body, I just assumed alive.
Fair point. Just something that I noticed as the story went on in both formats - it went from feeling like nobody is safe and everybody is dying to getting these off-screen deaths, Frankenstein monsters, and resurrections so the deaths didn't feel as final.
Versions of that theory have been around for a long time, most commonly repeated part is that Syrio is alive and is actually Jaquen.
Could've been your feed. I watched that episode last night (DirecTV HBO on demand). The intro was right after the Hound drops the log he was carrying solo and turns to the camera.
Yeah, my theory is that Jaqen was working for Littlefinger at the time. Pretty sure I have posted that on this board somewhere.
I read at some point that the very first episode and that episode were the only two that started with a cold open. Every other episode started with the credits.
