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Game Thread W11 - San Diego V Pittsburgh (1 Viewer)

I suspect Pitt will be getting an apology letter from Goodell by the end of the week.
The Steelers only lost points that rarely ever matter in terms of tiebreakers. The apology is more for the bettors and FF teams that lose because of the decsion.
I understand, but Goodell isn't gonna recognize the impact that this snafu had on Vegas, much less apologize to bettors. On the other hand this is an easy apology letter to write to Pitt just because it is so meaningless to them.
 
The first such score in 12,837 NFL games was in jeopardy when Troy Polamalu returned an errant lateral 12 yards for an apparent touchdown on the final play. The play was overturned on review -- it was called an illegal forward pass -- and the 11-10 final was restored.

After the game, referee Scott Green said the officials realized afterward the touchdown should have counted, though it wouldn't have affected the result.

nfl.com

fak you thats my 2 cents to that article

 
The first such score in 12,837 NFL games was in jeopardy when Troy Polamalu returned an errant lateral 12 yards for an apparent touchdown on the final play. The play was overturned on review -- it was called an illegal forward pass -- and the 11-10 final was restored.After the game, referee Scott Green said the officials realized afterward the touchdown should have counted, though it wouldn't have affected the result.nfl.comfak you thats my 2 cents to that article
If you're directing this at me... you gotta get off of the caffeine, dude. My comment had to do with the extra point. Was it actually kicked or not? I'm very clear that the play on the field resulted in an apparent TD, which was subsequently and erroneously determined to be dead due to an incorrectly applied illegal forward pass rule. If you read the CNNSI article you will see nothing to suggest the TD should have been disallowed.
 
It won't surprise me to hear about some type of revenge attack against the NFL or the referres that took that touchdown off the scoreboard which resulted in a lot of gambling wagers going the other way.

In my case I had a $ 120.00 3 team parlay,

49'ers - (-7) they covered

Cards - (-3) they covered

Steelers(-4 1/2) thay should have covered.

That blown call cost me $ 774.56. I'm pissed !

I don't want an apology letter, I want my damn money :bowtie:

I can imagine the people that were in Vegas that bet their last money on the Steelers and are now driving home from Vegas .

I know it's useless, but I am going to send my losing ticket to the NFL office and ask them to pay me. I'll let you know their response if I get one.

 
OK, just saw the official recognition of the error - link below

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-c...p&type=lgns

Now it gets really interesting in my opinion, because the NFL frequently goes back and changes official stats mid week following the game ...and those stats are certainly no more meaningful than a score change of this kind. So if the NFL does NOT change the score (to 17-10 at least, since they can't assume the PAT would have been good), what would their rationale be for not doing so?

My guess is that they won't because Vegas has likely already paid the "winning" bets off and a score change would cause them to pay off the "losing" bets as well. This would obviously not please Vegas and while I am no conspiracy theorist (i.e. I don't believe any of these NFL games are fixed in any way), I also recognize that the NFL does things specifically FOR Vegas (injury report being the prime example).

 
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Now it gets really interesting in my opinion, because the NFL frequently goes back and changes official stats mid week following the game ...and those stats are certainly no more meaningful than a score change of this kind. So if the NFL does NOT change the score (to 17-10 at least, since they can't assume the PAT would have been good), what would their rationale be for not doing so?
The obvious difference between changing a sack to a non-sack, giving a yard or two to another player, changing a run to a passing TD (remember McNabb) and the Steeler TD is that these were statistical changes that were simply a rearrangement of what actually occurred on the field. This Steeler TD change would change the actual score of the game, and I do not believe there is a precedent for changing the final score in any NFL game. The game was declared to be over. At some point, the score of the game has to be locked in -- that's why the games are listed as F or Final. Errors or not, the game is complete.
 
Now it gets really interesting in my opinion, because the NFL frequently goes back and changes official stats mid week following the game ...and those stats are certainly no more meaningful than a score change of this kind. So if the NFL does NOT change the score (to 17-10 at least, since they can't assume the PAT would have been good), what would their rationale be for not doing so?
The obvious difference between changing a sack to a non-sack, giving a yard or two to another player, changing a run to a passing TD (remember McNabb) and the Steeler TD is that these were statistical changes that were simply a rearrangement of what actually occurred on the field. This Steeler TD change would change the actual score of the game, and I do not believe there is a precedent for changing the final score in any NFL game. The game was declared to be over. At some point, the score of the game has to be locked in -- that's why the games are listed as F or Final. Errors or not, the game is complete.
Assuming Vegas did not exist....assuming gambling on games did not exist....how does changing the final score differ from changing a sack to a non-sack?I recognize the practical difference (i.e. how to deal with the bettors), but that isn't something the NFL is SUPPSED to worry about. So if you take the gamblers out of the equation, how is it any different?

 
Now it gets really interesting in my opinion, because the NFL frequently goes back and changes official stats mid week following the game ...and those stats are certainly no more meaningful than a score change of this kind. So if the NFL does NOT change the score (to 17-10 at least, since they can't assume the PAT would have been good), what would their rationale be for not doing so?
The obvious difference between changing a sack to a non-sack, giving a yard or two to another player, changing a run to a passing TD (remember McNabb) and the Steeler TD is that these were statistical changes that were simply a rearrangement of what actually occurred on the field. This Steeler TD change would change the actual score of the game, and I do not believe there is a precedent for changing the final score in any NFL game. The game was declared to be over. At some point, the score of the game has to be locked in -- that's why the games are listed as F or Final. Errors or not, the game is complete.
Assuming Vegas did not exist....assuming gambling on games did not exist....how does changing the final score differ from changing a sack to a non-sack?I recognize the practical difference (i.e. how to deal with the bettors), but that isn't something the NFL is SUPPSED to worry about. So if you take the gamblers out of the equation, how is it any different?
I'm kind of with you in spirit (assuming gambling is non-existent) but part of being able to keep a season going is knowing that the games are over when they are over (cue Yogi Berra). Really, why should they stop just with correcting this play. The NFL should go back and change that Seattle loss to the Jets when Testaverde was ruled across the goal line when he was clearly stopped short. Go back and give Mike Renfro the TD in the 1979 AFC championship game, etc.
 
Today's game looked like a little payback from Goodell's office for the variety of comments Steelers players have made this seasonThis crew desperately wanted (was instructed) to help the Bolts win this game. 13:2 penalties against Pitt. One of the worst officiated games I have ever watched.If the Steelers draw this crew in the playoffs they have no shot at going to the SB.
Careful you are starting to sound like a Seahawks fan.
 
The first such score in 12,837 NFL games was in jeopardy when Troy Polamalu returned an errant lateral 12 yards for an apparent touchdown on the final play. The play was overturned on review -- it was called an illegal forward pass -- and the 11-10 final was restored.

After the game, referee Scott Green said the officials realized afterward the touchdown should have counted, though it wouldn't have affected the result.

nfl.com

fak you thats my 2 cents to that article
If you're directing this at me... you gotta get off of the caffeine, dude. My comment had to do with the extra point. Was it actually kicked or not? I'm very clear that the play on the field resulted in an apparent TD, which was subsequently and erroneously determined to be dead due to an incorrectly applied illegal forward pass rule. If you read the CNNSI article you will see nothing to suggest the TD should have been disallowed.
I was at the game and I can tell you for sure they did not kick the extra point. After the apparent-TD they clock read 0:00 and it took a while to clear the field and line up to kick. By that time, the TD had already been reversed.Had the Steelers kicked the PAT I don't think it would have been possible to take the TD away.

 
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The stands looked empty. Everyone still at the can?
When it snows people go stand where there is coverage... a lot.
That's weak.
:ptts:These people are from Pittsburgh?? :ptts:
Oh please. It was following halftime.You see the last pictures... towel frenzy.
Don't make excuses.
For what? The jam packed stands with the faithfull filling it up? Or for getting your ### up at halftime when its snowing and moving around.
Steeler fans are weak.
:rolleyes: I was at the game and the place was packed and rocking. It ALWAYS takes a lot of time for the stands to fill back up after halftime. The lines for beer & bathrooms during halftime are LONNNNGGGGGG.
 
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OK, just saw the official recognition of the error - link below

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-c...p&type=lgns

Now it gets really interesting in my opinion, because the NFL frequently goes back and changes official stats mid week following the game ...and those stats are certainly no more meaningful than a score change of this kind. So if the NFL does NOT change the score (to 17-10 at least, since they can't assume the PAT would have been good), what would their rationale be for not doing so?

My guess is that they won't because Vegas has likely already paid the "winning" bets off and a score change would cause them to pay off the "losing" bets as well. This would obviously not please Vegas and while I am no conspiracy theorist (i.e. I don't believe any of these NFL games are fixed in any way), I also recognize that the NFL does things specifically FOR Vegas (injury report being the prime example).
They can't re-instate the TD because the extra point was not kicked. NFL rules require teams to make a PAT when there is no time left on the clock.
 
OK, just saw the official recognition of the error - link below

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-c...p&type=lgns

Now it gets really interesting in my opinion, because the NFL frequently goes back and changes official stats mid week following the game ...and those stats are certainly no more meaningful than a score change of this kind. So if the NFL does NOT change the score (to 17-10 at least, since they can't assume the PAT would have been good), what would their rationale be for not doing so?

My guess is that they won't because Vegas has likely already paid the "winning" bets off and a score change would cause them to pay off the "losing" bets as well. This would obviously not please Vegas and while I am no conspiracy theorist (i.e. I don't believe any of these NFL games are fixed in any way), I also recognize that the NFL does things specifically FOR Vegas (injury report being the prime example).
They can't re-instate the TD because the extra point was not kicked. NFL rules require teams to make a PAT when there is no time left on the clock.
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Today's game looked like a little payback from Goodell's office for the variety of comments Steelers players have made this season

This crew desperately wanted (was instructed) to help the Bolts win this game. 13:2 penalties against Pitt. One of the worst officiated games I have ever watched.

If the Steelers draw this crew in the playoffs they have no shot at going to the SB.
Careful you are starting to sound like a Seahawks fan.
:thumbup: Maybe treat88 didn't watch Super Bowl XL

 
Today's game looked like a little payback from Goodell's office for the variety of comments Steelers players have made this season

This crew desperately wanted (was instructed) to help the Bolts win this game. 13:2 penalties against Pitt. One of the worst officiated games I have ever watched.

If the Steelers draw this crew in the playoffs they have no shot at going to the SB.
Careful you are starting to sound like a Seahawks fan.
:thumbdown: Maybe treat88 didn't watch Super Bowl XL
No, I did and you are both correct.The whining isn't cool and stemmed from simple frustration. Apologies.

Lord knows I've told several posters not to sound like Seahawks fans myself.

 
-- Blown Call in Steelers-Chargers Game Benefits Bookies by $64M --Mon Nov 17, 2008 --from FFMastermind.com#The San Diego Union Tribune reports Pittsburgh Steelers SS Troy Polamalu's disallowed touchdown at the end of yesterday's 11-10 win over the Chargers helped bookies across the world. Pregame.com, a site that provides information to sports bettors, estimated that $100 million was wagered worldwide on the game. Approximately 66 percent of that money was on the Steelers, according to the site. "If the touchdown was properly upheld, Steelers bettors would have won about $32 million instead of losing big," Pregame.com President R.J. Bell said. "This admittedly incorrect call resulted in a $64 million swing in favor of the bookies." Polamalu's touchdown at the game's end was incorrectly taken away, meaning the Steelers won 11-10 and did not cover the point spread.
 

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