Game Thread W16 - Carolina V NY Giants (1 Viewer)

[Andy Hicks]

Good luck!!

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[Chief]

anyone see A.Bradshaw warming up?

any chance he is limited this week?

 

[Yenrub]

Ruh rho - looks like Peppers came to play

 

[The Dude]

All the prognosticators were liking Jacobs more than Bradshaw this week - so I went Jacobs. I hope he's ready to get down.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

The battle of Steve Smiths.

 

[Yenrub]

Manningham fumbles after what would have been a 1st down on a 3rd and 14 play

 

[Osaurus]

Is this a bye week for the Giants D?

 

[Routilla]

CAR really sticking it to the G-men.

 

[Fragis Frodum]

Note to self - do NOT draft Brandon "Tippy Toes" Jacobs ever again.....

 

[rrhartjr]

Can Moore start next year please?

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

The Giants this week look like the Redskins did last week.

 

[fasteddie_21]

New York Giants...you ARE the weakest link...GOODBYE!

 

[delusional]

As an eagles fan I just have to say

bhahahahahahha

 

[drfeelgood]

CAR really sticking it to the G-men.

If Carolina had played like this earlier in the season, they would probably be going to the playoffs.

 

[fasteddie_21]

As an eagles Cowboys fan I just have to say

bhahahahahahha

FYP and

 

[Osaurus]

As an eagles fan I just have to say bhahahahahahha

 

[Ghost Rider]

John Fox's decision to stay with Jake Delhomme for as long as he did is looking more than a bit curious. I wonder if a strong finish by the Panthers will save Fox's job. 8-8 is very likely now, as they are winning this game, and I don't expect the Saints to go all-out next week, with home field being locked up today and 16-0 no longer an option.

 

[rrhartjr]

Fox aint the best coach in a number of ways (strategy, personnel, etc), but you don't see much quit out of the Panthers in general

 

[drfeelgood]

Fox aint the best coach in a number of ways (strategy, personnel, etc), but you don't see much quit out of the Panthers in general

I think Fox is a good coach. If he were fired (I don't think he will be), he wouldn't stay unemployed for very long.

 

[rrhartjr]

Fox aint the best coach in a number of ways (strategy, personnel, etc), but you don't see much quit out of the Panthers in general

I think Fox is a good coach. If he were fired (I don't think he will be), he wouldn't stay unemployed for very long.

I don't think he'll be fired unless Cowher is just begging for the job. Not really that many other options out there.Its a shame we waited until Jake was crippled to even try out the alternatives. Shockingly passes can be completed (and even attempted) to players other than Steve Smith.Edit: AJ Feeley has been on this team all year. He's not Tom Brady, but how does he not even get a sniff with Delhomme as bad as he's been?

 

[fasteddie_21]

Fox aint the best coach in a number of ways (strategy, personnel, etc), but you don't see much quit out of the Panthers in general

I think Fox is a good coach. If he were fired (I don't think he will be), he wouldn't stay unemployed for very long.

I don't think he'll be fired unless Cowher is just begging for the job. Not really that many other options out there.Its a shame we waited until Jake was crippled to even try out the alternatives. Shockingly passes can be completed (and even attempted) to players other than Steve Smith.Edit: AJ Feeley has been on this team all year. He's not Tom Brady, but how does he not even get a sniff with Delhomme as bad as he's been?

I agree that this team has zero quit in it, but it truly boggles the mind that Delhomme was your QB for this season. Just completely and totally un-defendable.

 

[drfeelgood]

Its a shame we waited until Jake was crippled to even try out the alternatives. Shockingly passes can be completed (and even attempted) to players other than Steve Smith.

Cowher did the same thing with Kordell Stewart so it's not like he hasn't made some of the mistakes Fox has.

 

[Statorama]

New York Giants...you ARE the weakest link...GOODBYE!

It doesn't get much "choke-ier" than this.

 

[rrhartjr]

One of Fox's downfalls is his blind loyalty to starters and/or veterans. Every year there's a position of need that gets filled with an underperforming veteran who Fox refuses to bench.

In 2006 it was Minter

In 2007 it was Foster

In 2009 it's Delhomme

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

The 09 Giants are doing their best 08 Cowboys impersonation.

 

[drfeelgood]

In 2007 it was Foster

I don't agree with this. Foster was better than Williams at this point. Their offensive line was bad and Williams couldn't block and danced too much. Foster was the better option during Williams first two years.

 

[Manster]

im happy for Matt Moore as a fellow Oregon State Alum.

and i love seeing the G-men get spanked. anything that shuts brenda jacobs up is alright with me.

 

[delusional]

Delhomme's contract was a big reason he started most of this season

 

[LordHusker]

WTF? Is Bradshaw even playing? This is KILLING me.

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Big TD for Smith - looks like he may have broke his arm though - definitely favoring it.

 

[Native]

Matt Moore looking like a keeper.

 

[LordHusker]

Fox aint the best coach in a number of ways (strategy, personnel, etc), but you don't see much quit out of the Panthers in general

I think Fox is a good coach. If he were fired (I don't think he will be), he wouldn't stay unemployed for very long.

I don't think he'll be fired unless Cowher is just begging for the job. Not really that many other options out there.Its a shame we waited until Jake was crippled to even try out the alternatives. Shockingly passes can be completed (and even attempted) to players other than Steve Smith.Edit: AJ Feeley has been on this team all year. He's not Tom Brady, but how does he not even get a sniff with Delhomme as bad as he's been?

I agree that this team has zero quit in it, but it truly boggles the mind that Delhomme was your QB for this season. Just completely and totally un-defendable.

Let me help you out with that: "Indefensible."

 

[rrhartjr]

In 2007 it was Foster

I don't agree with this. Foster was better than Williams at this point. Their offensive line was bad and Williams couldn't block and danced too much. Foster was the better option during Williams first two years.

http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb2007FO stats disagree.

Foster ranked 44th (-15.8% DVOA), Williams ranked 14th (12.7% DVOA)

Even traditional stats disagree.

Foster 3.6 YPC 3 TD 5 FUM, Williams 4.9 YPC 4TD 0 FUM

I don't think there's any question.

 

[elbowrm]

Big TD for Smith - looks like he may have broke his arm though - definitely favoring it.

carted off

 

[VaCatFan]

Big TD for Smith - looks like he may have broke his arm though - definitely favoring it.

Yeah, that thing did look broken. Hate to see Kenny Moore or Jarrett get playing time because Smitty gets hurt.

 

[Yenrub]

Wow what a horrible "effort" by the Giants

 

[VaCatFan]

Good catch by Manningham

 

[drfeelgood]

I don't think there's any question.

I do, especially if you watched the games. Williams did cleanup duty during that time. I don't want to make this thread about Foster vs Williams.

 

[VaCatFan]

I don't think there's any question.

I do, especially if you watched the games. Williams did cleanup duty during that time. I don't want to make this thread about Foster vs Williams.

Pretty accurate. Williams that year had an issue dancing at the line and trying to take everything outside and using his speed. Wasn't the best pass blocker either which kept him on the bench. Somewhat known as well was that he didn't study as hard his first couple of years. Seems when Stewart was brought on that the lightbulb really went on.

 

[VaCatFan]

Wow, look at Stewart just bull them over.

 

[IDrinkyourMilkshake]

Update on Carolina Steve?

 

[VaCatFan]

Still speculating a broken arm.

 

[VaCatFan]

Other Steve Smith with a TD.... also holding his arm.

 

[scott72]

I'd just like to pop in here and give a big thank you to Carolina for the assist in getting us into the playoffs. I never thought the Giants would lay an egg like this, but it's great to see! Way to go Panthers!!

 

[fasteddie_21]

The 09 Giants are doing their best 08 Cowboys impersonation.

This is as embarrassing for them as it was for us vs Philly last year. But then again, at least that was to Philly, a playoff team. Not to a going nowhere Panther team w/ their backup QB and 2nd string RB Although, imo, they are better w/o Delhomme and JStew is certainly no slouch.

 

[VaCatFan]

Carolina Smith looks done. Got the parka on and possibly a cast on arm.

 

[Osaurus]

Other Steve Smith with a TD.... also holding his arm.

looks like he came down with all his weight on the ball on his hand. Ouch!!

 

[VaCatFan]

TD Hoover.

 

[steelwind]

LOL Car putting 41 points on the giants today?

 

[fasteddie_21]

JStew representing the Ducks very well!