Andy Hicks
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Game Thread W17 - Oakland V Tampa Bay (1 Viewer)
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Go Raiders. 
Brother Mouzone
Footballguy
good D by both sides so far
Johnnie Lee Higgins is an exciting player to watch. It looked like he started hopping to gain speed on that last return.
Johnnie Lee Higgins is an exciting player to watch. It looked like he started hopping to gain speed on that last return.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Go baby GO!!!Go Raiders.
Brother Mouzone
Footballguy
obviously a Raiders fan. What do you think of Michael Bush? He has definitely looked good when I've seen him but they relegated him to fullback for most of this year. Any future as a RB for this guy?Go baby GO!!!Go Raiders.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Go baby GO!!!Go Raiders.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
his future is either (A) outside of OAK or (B) with a new coach. He has potential and could be the RB2 to RunDMC if Fargas leaves - but he's signed 2 more years and cheap.He might be stuck for a few seasons barring injury.obviously a Raiders fan. What do you think of Michael Bush? He has definitely looked good when I've seen him but they relegated him to fullback for most of this year. Any future as a RB for this guy?Go baby GO!!!Go Raiders.
I suspect he's rooting for the Raiders because it keeps the Eagles alive.Can anyone say for sure what needs to happen with the Vikings and Bears if one wins and the other loses?obviously a Raiders fan. What do you think of Michael Bush? He has definitely looked good when I've seen him but they relegated him to fullback for most of this year. Any future as a RB for this guy?Go baby GO!!!Go Raiders.
MarshallRob
Footballguy
Bucs get an interception but it's nullified because Gaines Adams just got a tiny piece of Russell's facemask. Announcer says he doesn't think the penalty should have been a 15-yard one, apparently unaware the rule's been changed. Russell throws a pick on the next play anyway and a long runback sets up a TD run. Tampa Bay looks to be in solid control of the game now.
MarshallRob
Footballguy
Solid control gone. Huge PI call sets OAK up in the red zone and Higgins burns Barber for an easy TD catch.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Sounds like he's in agonyAudio feed of Caddy picked up by CBS: "ARE YOU ####### KIDDING ME?!?"
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MarshallRob
Footballguy
Great cutback run by Cadillac Williams. Unfortunately he suffered what appears to be a knee injury on the tackle. Had to be carried off the field. Man, the look on his face. Sad.
Capella
Footballguy
One of the worst things I've ever seen on a football field. Just horrible.Sounds like he's in agonyAudio feed of Caddy picked up by CBS: "ARE YOU ####### KIDDING ME?!?"
MarshallRob
Footballguy
Amazing. Michael Bush gives the Raiders the lead just like that. Just blows by Buchanan and Barber. Bucs had gone for it on 4th and four the play before but the pass was dropped and they turned it over on downs.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
I heard that too - that was Caddy?Sounds like he's in agonyAudio feed of Caddy picked up by CBS: "ARE YOU ####### KIDDING ME?!?"
taz
Footballguy
The second bad drop by Clayton.And the replay showed Brooks hobbling as he was trying to catch Bush, and then very frustrated on the bench.Another nice run by Bush. The Bucs' run defense these past four games has been pathetic.
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
Why did OAK just take a time out?
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
It's on tv now!
Go Raiders!
Go Raiders!
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
Come on D....
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Jeff Pasquino said:Go Raiders.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
huggy bear jr needs to go.Jeff Pasquino said:his future is either (A) outside of OAK or (B) with a new coach. He has potential and could be the RB2 to RunDMC if Fargas leaves - but he's signed 2 more years and cheap.He might be stuck for a few seasons barring injury.Tacticalone said:obviously a Raiders fan. What do you think of Michael Bush? He has definitely looked good when I've seen him but they relegated him to fullback for most of this year. Any future as a RB for this guy?Jeff Pasquino said:Go baby GO!!!Jeff Pasquino said:Go Raiders.
No. 16
Footballguy
huggy bear jr needs to go.Jeff Pasquino said:his future is either (A) outside of OAK or (B) with a new coach. He has potential and could be the RB2 to RunDMC if Fargas leaves - but he's signed 2 more years and cheap.He might be stuck for a few seasons barring injury.Tacticalone said:obviously a Raiders fan. What do you think of Michael Bush? He has definitely looked good when I've seen him but they relegated him to fullback for most of this year. Any future as a RB for this guy?Jeff Pasquino said:Go baby GO!!!Jeff Pasquino said:Go Raiders.
Fargas is a reliable ball carrier. We just have to be happy that Oakland has 3 good RBs.
Whiplash Inc.
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Whiplash Inc.
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I say give him a chance. Might as well with how the team has played the last 2 games, it's like a whole different team out there. Young players are showing considerable progress and there needs to be continuity in the organization.Keeping Cable and with the way the team has played and the fact that we won those games might increase our chances of keeping Asomugha.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
6 years too late, but it feels good knocking tampa & gruden out of the playoffs.
massraider
Footballguy
Aso is staying, at least for one more year. Davis isn't going to let a top 3 CB walk, when he can franchise him.
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
They should use him as the thunder with DMac being Lightning.Jeff Pasquino said:his future is either (A) outside of OAK or (B) with a new coach. He has potential and could be the RB2 to RunDMC if Fargas leaves - but he's signed 2 more years and cheap.He might be stuck for a few seasons barring injury.Tacticalone said:obviously a Raiders fan. What do you think of Michael Bush? He has definitely looked good when I've seen him but they relegated him to fullback for most of this year. Any future as a RB for this guy?Jeff Pasquino said:Go baby GO!!!Jeff Pasquino said:Go Raiders.
Fargas is signed for another 3 years (I think), he's more the slashing type as well. Bush brings something different, I doubt they get rid of him. They shouldn't anyway.
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MarshallRob
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So the Bucs miss the playoffs. They finish with a 4-game losing streak. Their running game may have just lost Cadillac for good and Dunn didn't look like he had a whole lot left. Garcia probably won't be back. Their best WR, Antonio Bryant, is a free agent. Kiffin's leaving and the defense is just a shell of its former self with Brooks and Barber showing their age. Grim.
Whiplash Inc.
Footballguy
I know that. I meant signing a long term deal.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
reliable isn't what we need. we need 170+ 2 td'shuggy bear jr needs to go.Jeff Pasquino said:his future is either (A) outside of OAK or (B) with a new coach. He has potential and could be the RB2 to RunDMC if Fargas leaves - but he's signed 2 more years and cheap.He might be stuck for a few seasons barring injury.Tacticalone said:obviously a Raiders fan. What do you think of Michael Bush? He has definitely looked good when I've seen him but they relegated him to fullback for most of this year. Any future as a RB for this guy?Jeff Pasquino said:Go baby GO!!!Jeff Pasquino said:Go Raiders.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
& i love huggy bear jr's style. tough sob. but he's keeping our best players from seeing the field.
massraider
Footballguy
He is signed and affordable. Gives the team everything he has, and seems like he gets 4 yards every time he gets the ball.We have players that "need to go" but Huggy Bear ain't one of them.reliable isn't what we need. we need 170+ 2 td'shuggy bear jr needs to go.Jeff Pasquino said:his future is either (A) outside of OAK or (B) with a new coach. He has potential and could be the RB2 to RunDMC if Fargas leaves - but he's signed 2 more years and cheap.He might be stuck for a few seasons barring injury.Tacticalone said:obviously a Raiders fan. What do you think of Michael Bush? He has definitely looked good when I've seen him but they relegated him to fullback for most of this year. Any future as a RB for this guy?Jeff Pasquino said:Go baby GO!!!Jeff Pasquino said:Go Raiders.
No. 16
Footballguy
Exactly. We'll see how good DMC is injury free and if he can beat out Fargas than we've got ourselves one hell of an RB and a back field.He is signed and affordable. Gives the team everything he has, and seems like he gets 4 yards every time he gets the ball.We have players that "need to go" but Huggy Bear ain't one of them.reliable isn't what we need. we need 170+ 2 td's:( Fargas is a reliable ball carrier. We just have to be happy that Oakland has 3 good RBs.huggy bear jr needs to go.Jeff Pasquino said:his future is either (A) outside of OAK or (B) with a new coach. He has potential and could be the RB2 to RunDMC if Fargas leaves - but he's signed 2 more years and cheap.He might be stuck for a few seasons barring injury.Tacticalone said:obviously a Raiders fan. What do you think of Michael Bush? He has definitely looked good when I've seen him but they relegated him to fullback for most of this year. Any future as a RB for this guy?Jeff Pasquino said:Go baby GO!!!Jeff Pasquino said:Go Raiders.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Oakland.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
i love him. but imho he keeps better players on the bench. fargus for a 3rd would make me very happy.Exactly. We'll see how good DMC is injury free and if he can beat out Fargas than we've got ourselves one hell of an RB and a back field.He is signed and affordable. Gives the team everything he has, and seems like he gets 4 yards every time he gets the ball.We have players that "need to go" but Huggy Bear ain't one of them.reliable isn't what we need. we need 170+ 2 td'shuggy bear jr needs to go.Jeff Pasquino said:his future is either (A) outside of OAK or (B) with a new coach. He has potential and could be the RB2 to RunDMC if Fargas leaves - but he's signed 2 more years and cheap.He might be stuck for a few seasons barring injury.Tacticalone said:obviously a Raiders fan. What do you think of Michael Bush? He has definitely looked good when I've seen him but they relegated him to fullback for most of this year. Any future as a RB for this guy?Jeff Pasquino said:Go baby GO!!!Jeff Pasquino said:Go Raiders.
Quez
Footballguy
I was sitting kind of behind the bench, and Caddy was waiving his hands in the air yelling. Probably re-injured the knee. Pretty sad to see a guy work that hard to come back, and now he is going to have to start over. I really felt his frustration, and he was looking awesome this game. Caught every pass thrown his way, making great cuts, and busting out big runs.
massraider
Footballguy
I get where you're coming from, man. And I'd like to see a DMC/Bush combo next year. I think they are both potentially better (maybe much better) than Fargas. But I am totally cool with Fargas as the 3rd back, because neither one of our young guns has shown they can be the lead dog. DMC makes me nervous frankly, it's either a homerun, or he goes down like a bowling pin. Bush may wind up being our best back.Depth at RB is our biggest strength, I am fine keeping it.We get Griffith and Oren O'Neil back next year, it will only improve our running game.
massraider
Footballguy
Awful thing to happen to a class act. I will be rooting for him.
No. 16
Footballguy
They maybe potentially better but we don't know until they actually outperform Fargas. He's cheap and reliable and a great barometer for our young RBs. No reason to get rid of him. If DMC or Bush fail to take Fargas out of the lineup that is a clear indication they can't be a feature back. So why are we so in a hurry to get rid of one of our few consistent players to gamble on DMC or Bush? Again, I'd love for DMC and Bush to succeed but as of now they haven't done anything to unseat Fargas as the main ball carrier. Talent and potential mean nothing to winning football games.... performance is all that matters.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
bush hasn't had a chance to show case what he has to offer until today. dmc is worrisome because of injuries, but i think he moves ahead of huggy bear to start next year. & he really hasn't been given the opportunity to take the lions share of the carries yet either. so do you want huggy bear or bush backing up dmc next year?
massraider
Footballguy
Bush. But it's not an either/or.We can keep all of them. The Giants do quite well with their 3 back system.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Since my home team rarely has contact with the Bucs, I'm pretty ambivalent about them. But that game yesterday definitely rates a "WTF." How could they let something like that happen?
