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Game Thread - W5 Dallas V Buffalo (1 Viewer)

Good luck to the Cowboys with New England next week. If Dallas plays like that again, New England is likely to put up 75.So the Packers lose to the Bears, who are supposed to suck, and Dallas can barely eek out a win in Buffalo, a team many consider to be the worst in the league. Is there an NFC team that would even go 8-8 in the AFC?
Hm, Indy just barely beat the Titans, and the Chargers lost to the Chiefs, who lost to the Bears, and then the Chargers lost to the Pack, who got beat by the Bears, and the Steelers got beat by the Cardinals, who just barely beat the Rams but lost to San Francisco, who got crushed by Pittsburgh.So, I don't know anything. Except that there are 31 teams in the NFL, and thanks to match-ups, just about any of whom can lose to any other team at any point. And then there are the Patriots. Take away the AFC South, and the AFC has an overall record of 25-33. In fact, head to head, the AFC is only 2 games up on the NFC in terms of record (including the South). As much as our AFC brethren might like to forget them, the AFC does contain the AFC West, which is being led by a team with a 2-2 record. You don't see that in the NFC (at least, not for a couple of weeks) - which means that there are at least 4 teams in the NFC that could lead the AFC South. The dominant team in the league are the Pats, who nominally reside in the AFC. After that, there's a lot of parity. The win tonight was pretty big for the Boys, because it seems like they might be partially exempt from having the ability to lose to any other team on any given night. If you can't lose when you give up 6 turnovers, 2 of which are run in for TD's, and a TD kickoff return, what else do you have to do?
 
Neo said:
BigTex said:
simey said:
TO was mugged
:excited: Clearly Pass interference
I just went back in this thread to see if anyone else thought the same...that was pass interference in my book and the stellar MNF crew didn't even mention it.
Said the same thing to my wife. You could see Wilson motioning for faceguarding. You can't play with your back to the ball and say you were making a play for the ball.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt this way,I was bouncing off the walls saying the same thing.I guess you call that "home field advantage".
 
Kornheiser and Jaws were a riot...while they were trashing Romo (deserved) they were singing Edwards praises ad nauseum, great footwork, blah blah blah blah.

Um..led his team tonight to a field goal, and that was it. Played to not lose, while Romo blew off the bad night and played to win. Classic finish and I LMFAO. Kornheiser sucks.

 
So, I don't know anything. Except that there are 31 teams in the NFL, and thanks to match-ups, just about any of whom can lose to any other team at any point. And then there are the Patriots.
Right, and the Patriots are one of many teams that are very good in the AFC.
Take away the AFC South, and the AFC has an overall record of 25-33. In fact, head to head, the AFC is only 2 games up on the NFC in terms of record (including the South).
Just a ridiculous way of looking at it, someone already addressed this.
As much as our AFC brethren might like to forget them, the AFC does contain the AFC West, which is being led by a team with a 2-2 record. You don't see that in the NFC (at least, not for a couple of weeks) - which means that there are at least 4 teams in the NFC that could lead the AFC South.
This would make complete sense if the teams from the NFC played THE SAME SCHEDULE that the teams from the AFC West did. You have to do a little more critical thinking than is involved in looking at the standings.Actually, there's 1 team in the NFC that could TIE for the lead of the AFC south. I assume you meant the West, but whatever.

But I'll give you that. The AFC West isn't very good.

If you give me that the NFC south can't hang with the AFC. 6 of their 7 combined wins are against NFC teams. Their record vs. the AFC? 1-6. So, I'm not sure how good the records of any of those teams would be if they played in the AFC. I would say, maybe, 2-2, or 2-3, maybe. The AFC west is 2-3 vs NFC teams and 6-8 vs the AFC.

Okay, so each conference has a bad division, only the NFC's "bad" division is abysmal vs. the AFC, and pretty good against the NFC. And the AFC's "bad" division, while not good against the NFC, is markedly better. Can we infer something from this?

But lets talk about good teams, shall we? Since you seem to like Dallas so much, we'll use them, and I'll pick Indianapolis from the AFC.

Dallas has won their games against NFC teams by an average of 21 points, gaining 470 yards per game. On average they score 38 points per game. But they're beating AFC teams by only 9 points per game, gaining 100 less total yards per game, allowing the same amount of total yards(to the worst, and 4th worst offensive teams in the AFC)and scoring a full touchdown less per game on average.

Indianapolis is having a tough time against AFC teams, only winning by about 11 points a game, gaining 397 yards per game, allowing 300 YPG on defense, while scoring 30 points per game. But they're absolutely destroying NFC teams, by a whopping 25 points, scoring an average of 37 points a game, allowing a paltry 235 ypg, and gaining 50 more ypg. Can we infer something from this?

So, lets see, an undefeated team from each conference, and the team from the AFC is struggling against other AFC opponents, while the team from the NFC is also struggling against AFC opponents. And the bad divisions are really bad against the AFC and just regular bad against the NFC. That would lead me to believe, that AS OF RIGHT NOW, the AFC is better.

The win tonight was pretty big for the Boys, because it seems like they might be partially exempt from having the ability to lose to any other team on any given night. If you can't lose when you give up 6 turnovers, 2 of which are run in for TD's, and a TD kickoff return, what else do you have to do?
Play any team besides Buffalo tonight, and they lose by at least 3 touchdowns.
 
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all I can say is PHEW!

The Bills fans were letting us 'Boys supporters have it all night.. It was great to see Folk hit that kick twice!

but really, that was one horrible performance. Romo looked like crap out there and the Cowboys D did an excellent job of producing the "How not to make the first tackle" DVD in stores soon!

 
Neo said:
BigTex said:
simey said:
TO was mugged
:goodposting: Clearly Pass interference
I just went back in this thread to see if anyone else thought the same...that was pass interference in my book and the stellar MNF crew didn't even mention it.
Said the same thing to my wife. You could see Wilson motioning for faceguarding. You can't play with your back to the ball and say you were making a play for the ball.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt this way,I was bouncing off the walls saying the same thing.I guess you call that "home field advantage".
Come on now, there were terrible calls both ways. On the drive that Whitten scored on in the first half, Schoebel had beaten his man and was going to sack Romo. But the lineman grabbed the sides of his jersey and clearly held him. Romo ended up converting a long pass for a 1st down instead of being sacked and making it about 3rd and 20.That's not to mention the blatant horsecollar by Roy Williams AND the obvious late hit on the exact same play that the refs ruled a pathetic 5 yard facemask penalty. That was the same drive that Edwards threw the INT on. That extra 10 yards would have been huge at that point.
 
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Good luck to the Cowboys with New England next week. If Dallas plays like that again, New England is likely to put up 75.

So the Packers lose to the Bears, who are supposed to suck, and Dallas can barely eek out a win in Buffalo, a team many consider to be the worst in the league. Is there an NFC team that would even go 8-8 in the AFC?
Hm, Indy just barely beat the Titans, and the Chargers lost to the Chiefs, who lost to the Bears, and then the Chargers lost to the Pack, who got beat by the Bears, and the Steelers got beat by the Cardinals, who just barely beat the Rams but lost to San Francisco, who got crushed by Pittsburgh.
Are you seriously comparing the Bills to the Titans? The Titans have won 9 of their last 11 games, with their only two losses to the Colts and Pats. The Bills couldn't even win a game with 6 turnovers forced, 2 for TDS, AND a TD KO return - that's just pitiful.
 
That's not to mention the blatant horsecollar by Roy Williams AND the obvious late hit on the exact same play that the refs ruled a pathetic 5 yard facemask penalty. That was the same drive that Edwards threw the INT on. That extra 10 yards would have been huge at that point.
This was my thought exactly. Was that not a text book horse collar?!?!?!
 
Terrible decision to go for FG. Dallas ball at the 44.
The was the play that cost the Bills the game. You have the BEST punter in the league in an obvious punting situation - USE HIM! Those 3 points were clearly costly - there's a big difference between being up 2 scores at half, and being up 1 at half. Awful, awful decision.
 
Terrible decision to go for FG. Dallas ball at the 44.
The was the play that cost the Bills the game. You have the BEST punter in the league in an obvious punting situation - USE HIM! Those 3 points were clearly costly - there's a big difference between being up 2 scores at half, and being up 1 at half. Awful, awful decision.
that was a terrible call. but another equally mind-numbing call was on the late game Edwards INT. They never should have called that PASS play to begin with. Buffalo has the ball in close FG range with the likelihood of going up by 11 with around 5 minutes left. Thats either 2 TDs or a TD, conversion and FG. Tall task for Dallas. All they had to do was call a run instead of that hideous pass play with a rookie QB that got tipped and picked. Horrendous!! Worst coaching move Ive seen in a while. I recall telling myself immediately before that play, "all they need to do is just RUN another play, kick a FG and this game is over". Didnt happen and its really a shame for Bills fans that the coaching there was so hideous. But from a fan of neither of these teams, this one of the greatest games Ive ever witnessed. The drama was unbelievable.
 

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