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Game Thread W9 - Pittsburgh at Washington (1 Viewer)

Steelers looked good. I thought Washington didn't do enough early with the breaks they had, they could have put some distance between them and the Steelers and they didn't do that.

Santana Moss being dinged didn't allow for the Skins to get deep, which certainly hurt them. The Redskins are a team who will enjoy the bye.

 
The Redskins are who I thought they were.
Didn't the Cowboys just get their asses kicked yesterday? Just askin'.
Dont deflect the fact the Skins just gt their arrse handed to them in a big game at home on Monday night. Dallas will have Romo back along with many other starters and key reserves. They will be back to the team they can be. Get real. Lets see the Giants without Eli and Dallas with Romo.
 
I cant wait for that Tennessee game

Maybe their RB combo with do something no other RB has done yet this year, but that team cannot beat a team like the Steelers with the way theyre winning games

That said, I dont want everyone knowing the Steelers are pretty much hands down the best team in the AFC. They get beat, in close games, by 2 very good teams and people no longer think theyre 1 of the 5 best teams in the NFL

I dont care how bad the OLine is, with our D, were 1 of a handful of contenders easily

 
The Redskins are who I thought they were.
Didn't the Cowboys just get their asses kicked yesterday? Just askin'.
Dont deflect the fact the Skins just gt their arrse handed to them in a big game at home on Monday night. Dallas will have Romo back along with many other starters and key reserves. They will be back to the team they can be. Get real. Lets see the Giants without Eli and Dallas with Romo.
Um, okay?
 
I predicted 26-14 Pitt I gave the Skins to much credit. They are a good team but not a top notch one they were exposed tonight as I said they would be.

 
The Redskins are who I thought they were.
I think you should change your sig 1st
That aint going to happen we will find out in two weeks!
:lmao: :lmao: Climb out of the seller first, then win a playoff game in 2000. Didn't you guys get owned again yesterday?
LOL try and concentrate on you just getting your butt kick and stop worrying about the Cowboys.
Didn't think the Skins would win tonight anyway. So much that I took the Steelers in my suicide pool. Dude your team is garbage, your garbage, go make out with your Tony Romo Fat Head, and go to bed.
 
Being a Portis owner in a PPR league, wish the redskins would be down more often. Portis never gets any passes when they are leading.

 
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QUOTE (Tatum Bell @ Oct 30 2008, 06:04 PM) *

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QUOTE (Tatum Bell @ Oct 30 2008, 10:49 AM) *

Interesting that Garrett was the spear carrier for Johnson's return. I've still got to fault Jones a bit as it doesn't take a genius to figure out from watching Johnson work out that he's simply not a guy you can win with over multiple games. If Garrett simply had to have him on the roster, then it's the GM's job to get a 3rd stringer who can be viable too, if not override Garrett on that decision.

So now I've got to wonder how much luster is gone from Garrett in Jones' eyes longer term. Is he still the front-runner to become the head coach after Wade?

QUOTE (Manster @ Oct 30 2008, 06:50 AM) *

our best shot is to roll with BJ. sure he's looked rusty, but he knows the offense. if the playcalling is right, and BJ deosnt try to do to much, they should be able to sustain drives. this obviously isnt the same team without Romo in there. but BJ is a salty vet, who wont be intimidated going into NY.

we need to get the ball to TO. since BJ cant really make the long throws, how bout WR screens, reverses, quick slants. if BJ has a bit of time to throw, there should be some opportunitys there.

we need to blitz the crap out of eli. he makes bad throws under pressure. if he has all day, as some QB's have had against the Cowboys, he'll pick us apart for sure.

i really think the Cowboys have a shot in this one. the momentum of their defensive effort from last week should carry over. we'll see.

The Cowboys have a better shot than many people think because, as you said, Eli is not a good QB under pressure. A dirty little secret from that ugly week 1 loss by the Redskins was that they literally dropped 4 or 5 INT's from Eli. I'm not exaggerating. One was even in the end zone. They only lost 16-7, so even catching just one or two could have had an effect upon the outcome, even as miserably as the Redskins were playing on offense.

The Cowboys can win an ugly 13-10 type ball game if their defense steps up and the offensive line decides to get mean and block for Barber. And of course BJ cannot turn the ball over.

I unlike some others am not enthralled with Terrence Newman's abilities and I don't think he's anywhere near elite level as a CB, so his absence, while still a negative, isn't devastating. The key is getting pressure on Eli, even more than stopping the running game. None of those Giants RB's are game breakers IMHO, although that's otherwise a deep and good RB corps. If the Cowboys are knocking Eli down and getting a couple of INT's, the Giants could run for 200 yards and still lose.

Sure Dallas could win a tough defensive battle but I doubt that will happen. Sure Eli can be rattled but all qb's can with good pressure, but to imply that he is not able to over come pressure is not on target anymore. He can make the big play under pressure situations. The Skins are not in the Giants class and have been playing average to terrible ball the last 3 weeks. Had they not played the doormat of the league last week they would have lost. They are over ratted. I think Newman is a major upgrade over a rookie cb and is a big loss for this defense. I 100% agree that Dallas has to put pressure on Eli, the o-line has to run block and BJ can't turn the ball over, but that is obvious. B.Jacobs is a beast and can wear a defense down better then any rb in the league as well as the G-MEN's offensive line is the best in the NFL. Dallas has little chance to win this game as beat up as they are, now if this game was played when Dallas plays the Skins after the bye then Dallas can beat anyone once they get Romo F.Jones TNewman Witten Henry etc. back healthy. If Dallas wins this game with some big time luck the G-Men will never get over it and Dallas will win the division. The most likely scenario is Dallas Losses this week and is 5-4 and will have a hard time getting to 10 wins but should, and make a WC spot with either Philly Skins Tampa Minn in that order.

They're overrated and "Dallas can beat anyone with Romo", and yet the 'Skins beat Dallas in Dallas a month ago with Romo in the lineup? Ok chief, whatever.

If you follow the NFC East you know the games are always close and talent level and the better team means next to nothing. The teams play each other very close and there is almost never a dominant team in the NFC east vs one another. ***********The Skins are over ratted and it will show this Monday when they get handled buy the Steelers.**************

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Newslang this is the year of the COWBOY!!

 
Being a Portis owner in a PPR league, wish the redskins would be down more often. Portis never gets any passes when they are leading.
This has as much to do with Moss being out as anything else. They can't throw to the WR's without Moss out there.
 
The Redskins are who I thought they were.
I think you should change your sig 1st
That aint going to happen we will find out in two weeks!
:lmao: :lmao: Climb out of the seller first, then win a playoff game in 2000. Didn't you guys get owned again yesterday?
LOL try and concentrate on you just getting your butt kick and stop worrying about the Cowboys.
Didn't think the Skins would win tonight anyway. So much that I took the Steelers in my suicide pool. Dude your team is garbage, your garbage, go make out with your Tony Romo Fat Head, and go to bed.
Sorry I upset you, really I am , I am just saying that I think the Skins are overratted and I think it showed. Dude you could never be a Cowboys fan if you get your panties in a bunch like this after a loss. Chill and have a great ight sleep but I have a feeling you won't be tonight.
 
I love MNF with Steeler wins now that its on ESPN...I now get to hear them all wipe the Stillers butt with babywipes since they crushed the Skins in this game

I especially like hearing Emmitt wax rhapsodic after games.....hahaha

 
Looks like Obama is our next president :thumbdown: wow this country is gonna be a mess
Hey we agree on something dude. Really though not trying to be an arrse. I just think the Skins are as overrated as you think the Cowboys are.
Nope, not even close. The Cowboys were the "presumed Super Bowl favorite" out of the NFC. The 'Skins are an improved team aiming for the playoffs. I can tell you right now that I expected my team to be worse than 6-3 right now, while you definitely considered your team to be better than 5-4. Just keep spinning alibis for Jerruh and his brilliant personnel strategy that brought you such shining lights as Brad Johnson and Brooks Bollinger. :wub:
 
If anyone has WAS D it looks like that last sack of leftwitch was not recorded correctly?

(2:45) (Shotgun) 4-B.Leftwich sacked at PIT 27 for -5 yards (sack split by 92-D.Evans and 52-R.McIntosh). PENALTY on PIT, Illegal Formation, 5 yards, enforced at PIT 32 - No Play. Six men on the line

WAS declined the penalty so the sack should stand correct?

 
Being a Portis owner in a PPR league, wish the redskins would be down more often. Portis never gets any passes when they are leading.
This has as much to do with Moss being out as anything else. They can't throw to the WR's without Moss out there.
Um...unless they pulled him out bc they arent gonna win, Moss played
He's been out since about midway through the second quarter.
He was on the field in the 4th quarter.
 
Being a Portis owner in a PPR league, wish the redskins would be down more often. Portis never gets any passes when they are leading.
This has as much to do with Moss being out as anything else. They can't throw to the WR's without Moss out there.
Um...unless they pulled him out bc they arent gonna win, Moss played
He's been out since about midway through the second quarter.
He was on the field in the 4th quarter.
You sure about that? If you're right, I missed it, but I don't think you are.
 
Looks like Obama is our next president :goodposting: wow this country is gonna be a mess
Hey we agree on something dude. Really though not trying to be an arrse. I just think the Skins are as overrated as you think the Cowboys are.
Nope, not even close. The Cowboys were the "presumed Super Bowl favorite" out of the NFC. The 'Skins are an improved team aiming for the playoffs. I can tell you right now that I expected my team to be worse than 6-3 right now, while you definitely considered your team to be better than 5-4. Just keep spinning alibis for Jerruh and his brilliant personnel strategy that brought you such shining lights as Brad Johnson and Brooks Bollinger. :bye:
How bout them Skins :shrug: , this will be settled in two weeks either way you spin it. It does not matter who says what or who thinks what before the season what matters is what happens from here on out. One thing I know for sure is the Redskins are a good team but SB pretenders as I stated before. To answer your question from another post of do I feel better calling the Skins over ratted? Same answer as before NOPE, but I sure feel right. Have a good night Tatum and I will see ya in two weeks it will be fun!!!
 
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Being a Portis owner in a PPR league, wish the redskins would be down more often. Portis never gets any passes when they are leading.
This has as much to do with Moss being out as anything else. They can't throw to the WR's without Moss out there.
Um...unless they pulled him out bc they arent gonna win, Moss played
He's been out since about midway through the second quarter.
He was on the field in the 4th quarter.
You sure about that? If you're right, I missed it, but I don't think you are.
He was in briefly at the end. Dropped or missed a pass IIRC.edited to add - yup here he is late in the 4th --

Washington Redskins at 05:23

1-10-PIT 31 (5:23) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 26-C.Portis to PIT 22 for 9 yards (23-T.Carter).

2-1-PIT 22 (4:58) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 47-C.Cooley to PIT 14 for 8 yards (51-J.Farrior).

1-10-PIT 14 (4:38) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete short right to 83-J.Thrash (22-W.Gay).

2-10-PIT 14 (4:35) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete short middle to 89-S.Moss (26-D.Townsend) [94-L.Timmons].

3-10-PIT 14 (4:30) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass short left to 26-C.Portis to PIT 12 for 2 yards (23-T.Carter).

4-8-PIT 12 (3:43) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell sacked at PIT 26 for -14 yards (94-L.Timmons).
 
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Being a Portis owner in a PPR league, wish the redskins would be down more often. Portis never gets any passes when they are leading.
This has as much to do with Moss being out as anything else. They can't throw to the WR's without Moss out there.
Um...unless they pulled him out bc they arent gonna win, Moss played
He's been out since about midway through the second quarter.
He was on the field in the 4th quarter.
You sure about that? If you're right, I missed it, but I don't think you are.
He was in briefly at the end. Dropped or missed a pass IIRC.edited to add - yup here he is late in the 4th --

Washington Redskins at 05:23

1-10-PIT 31 (5:23) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 26-C.Portis to PIT 22 for 9 yards (23-T.Carter).

2-1-PIT 22 (4:58) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 47-C.Cooley to PIT 14 for 8 yards (51-J.Farrior).

1-10-PIT 14 (4:38) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete short right to 83-J.Thrash (22-W.Gay).

2-10-PIT 14 (4:35) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete short middle to 89-S.Moss (26-D.Townsend) [94-L.Timmons].

3-10-PIT 14 (4:30) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass short left to 26-C.Portis to PIT 12 for 2 yards (23-T.Carter).

4-8-PIT 12 (3:43) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell sacked at PIT 26 for -14 yards (94-L.Timmons).
Thanks, I thought I saw him on the field. I was not totally paying attention to the game at that point. I just noticed because I thought it was wierd that he was back in for this drive and not the one before it.
 
Being a Portis owner in a PPR league, wish the redskins would be down more often. Portis never gets any passes when they are leading.
This has as much to do with Moss being out as anything else. They can't throw to the WR's without Moss out there.
Um...unless they pulled him out bc they arent gonna win, Moss played
He's been out since about midway through the second quarter.
He was on the field in the 4th quarter.
You sure about that? If you're right, I missed it, but I don't think you are.
He was in briefly at the end. Dropped or missed a pass IIRC.edited to add - yup here he is late in the 4th --

Washington Redskins at 05:23

1-10-PIT 31 (5:23) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 26-C.Portis to PIT 22 for 9 yards (23-T.Carter).

2-1-PIT 22 (4:58) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 47-C.Cooley to PIT 14 for 8 yards (51-J.Farrior).

1-10-PIT 14 (4:38) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete short right to 83-J.Thrash (22-W.Gay).

2-10-PIT 14 (4:35) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete short middle to 89-S.Moss (26-D.Townsend) [94-L.Timmons].

3-10-PIT 14 (4:30) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass short left to 26-C.Portis to PIT 12 for 2 yards (23-T.Carter).

4-8-PIT 12 (3:43) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell sacked at PIT 26 for -14 yards (94-L.Timmons).
Thanks, I thought I saw him on the field. I was not totally paying attention to the game at that point. I just noticed because I thought it was wierd that he was back in for this drive and not the one before it.
I was intensely following James Harrison, praying for fantasy points. I think he gave me enough.But yeah I was watching pretty close and saw it through the haze of too many beef ribs.

 
Being a Portis owner in a PPR league, wish the redskins would be down more often. Portis never gets any passes when they are leading.
This has as much to do with Moss being out as anything else. They can't throw to the WR's without Moss out there.
Um...unless they pulled him out bc they arent gonna win, Moss played
He's been out since about midway through the second quarter.
He was on the field in the 4th quarter.
You sure about that? If you're right, I missed it, but I don't think you are.
He was in briefly at the end. Dropped or missed a pass IIRC.edited to add - yup here he is late in the 4th --

Washington Redskins at 05:23

1-10-PIT 31 (5:23) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 26-C.Portis to PIT 22 for 9 yards (23-T.Carter).

2-1-PIT 22 (4:58) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass short middle to 47-C.Cooley to PIT 14 for 8 yards (51-J.Farrior).

1-10-PIT 14 (4:38) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete short right to 83-J.Thrash (22-W.Gay).

2-10-PIT 14 (4:35) 17-J.Campbell pass incomplete short middle to 89-S.Moss (26-D.Townsend) [94-L.Timmons].

3-10-PIT 14 (4:30) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell pass short left to 26-C.Portis to PIT 12 for 2 yards (23-T.Carter).

4-8-PIT 12 (3:43) (Shotgun) 17-J.Campbell sacked at PIT 26 for -14 yards (94-L.Timmons).
Thanks, I thought I saw him on the field. I was not totally paying attention to the game at that point. I just noticed because I thought it was wierd that he was back in for this drive and not the one before it.
That was about it then, because he was on the sideline otherwise. They even went to Michelle Tafoya for a quick update on that, and she reported that he was fine to return to the game but that he was still over there on the sideline. :excited: I would suspect that the hammy tightened up and they decided not to push it with the bye week coming up.

 
Mustang Man said:
Sorry I upset you, really I am , I am just saying that I think the Skins are overratted and I think it showed. Dude you could never be a Cowboys fan if you get your panties in a bunch like this after a loss. Chill and have a great ight sleep but I have a feeling you won't be tonight.
OMFG, are you serious? :thumbup: :D :lmao: :eek: :confused: Dallas has to have the BIGGEST "off and on the bandwagon" group of fans you'll ever see. This may be the most awesome case of :goodposting: in the history of the Shark Pool!
 
Mustang Man said:
Sorry I upset you, really I am , I am just saying that I think the Skins are overratted and I think it showed. Dude you could never be a Cowboys fan if you get your panties in a bunch like this after a loss. Chill and have a great ight sleep but I have a feeling you won't be tonight.
OMFG, are you serious? :excited: :D :lmao: :eek: :hophead: Dallas has to have the BIGGEST "off and on the bandwagon" group of fans you'll ever see. This may be the most awesome case of :goodposting: in the history of the Shark Pool!
OMFG :loco: :lmao: :goodposting: :excited: :rolleyes: :excited: I sure hope you are not including me as a bandwagon jumper for Dallas and if not why quote my thread speaking of that BS. I have been here all year and will be here all year from hear on out. All I am doing is jumping on the Skins who I called over ratted before this game was even played. This will mark the 4th week, a month, they have played like crap, they are finished. As soon as I do start bashing the Skins, as the Cowboys get done to them week in week out, nobody can take it and starts getting their panties all bunched up. The calling :thumbdown: thIng can be said reverse as well. I sure see people can dish out but SURE CAN'T HANDLE TAKING IT.LOL :lmao: I sure do not care as long as it is in god fun in a football context. Get over yourself and loosen up.
 
Tatum Bell said:
Scruff Mcgruff said:
Being a Portis owner in a PPR league, wish the redskins would be down more often. Portis never gets any passes when they are leading.
This has as much to do with Moss being out as anything else. They can't throw to the WR's without Moss out there.
That's quite true, and why Washington still needs a legitimate #2 WR. Randle El cannot step into Moss's role. Nor can either of the 2 drafted rookies, at least not yet. Perhaps one of the rookies will later this year or next year; perhaps it will take another free agent signing, but the Redskins still need to improve their WR corps. T. J. Redskindzadeh doesn't sound too bad.
 
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haven't read but this page 12...but I did want to say that the only silver lining is that Lefty was the one who saved Pitt's skin last night and as a DC native who grew up worshiping the Skins, it was nice that it turned around for such a good guy.

 
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi..._silent_co.html

Steelers Fans Forced Silent Count

From Jason La Canfora at Redskins Park:

In what may be the saddest testament yet to the sight of the Steelers' fans taking over FedEx Field last night and dominating the lower bowl with all the terrible towels, the Redskins offense had to go to a silent count at times, at home, because of all the noise the visiting fans were making.

"We had to go silent at least a couple of times," one veteran player said. "It was loud down there, espeicially on third down. I never seen anything like that, at home, with 90,000 people there. It seemed like they had more fans than we did. That was sad. They had guys like Troy [Polamalu] raising his arms on third down and all these people are yelling and screaming for the Steelers. It was pretty sad, man."

That's about as bad as it gets, folks. Not sure how that happens with a 100,000-person waiting list and all of that good stuff, but I've never seen anything like that before. Steinberg has more on the topic, too.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsb..._skins_int.html
So about those terrible towels. Lots of 'em, right? Loud, right?

"We actually went silent count one or two times out there," Chris Samuels said. "I mean, Jason called it so we had to basically obey it."

(Much, much more on this issue here, with better quotes and Casey Rabach explaining why they turned to the silent count.)

Wait, that was the home team? Using a silent count? Because of the noise from fans rallying behind their defense?

"Uh huh," said Pete Kendall, who said that had happened to him elsewhere but admitted he was a tad surprised last night. "I mean, that's not the reputation or the expectation I had of the fans here," he said, "but who am I to begrudge somebody from making a profit by selling their tickets? I'm playing for money, and they're watching, and it's their right to do what they want with their tickets."

How many Steelers fans were there last night? Unclear. A lot. Enough that, after walking from the parking lot to the press box, everyone was talking about it, hours before kickoff. Enough that when Antwaan Randle El ran out before the game, the boos were obvious. Enough that, in the final minutes, when Pittsburgh got an interception, a writer who couldn't see the play guessed that something bad must have happened to Washington, judging by the roar of the crowd.

My original guess was 15 percent, but I was mocked for going too low. Was it 20 percent? Was it 25 percent? Some writers guessed as high as 30, and the Washington Times went with 33 percent, although I still say that's way too high. Your guess on the percentage?

And as long as I'm asking questions, why does this happen? Why does it happen with Penguins games? Do Pittsburgh fans have more money? More passion? Fewer outside interests? Fewer job responsibilities? If a Redskins fan isn't going to hold on to his tickets when his team is 6-2 and playing a home Monday Night Football game for the first time in six or seven years, exactly when is he going to hold onto his tickets? Or is this just an inevitable part of playing Pittsburgh? Here's what Cincy columnist Paul Daugherty wrote after a Bengals game this year:

Nobody wearing a POLAMALU jersey had to worry about getting his face smashed in. The black-and-gold-clad visiting home crowd twirled its Terrible Towels for three hours, shooting a figurative middle finger at the Bengals fans, as they have the last eight times their team has played at Paul Brown Stadium, all Pittsburgh wins. It's disgusting, really, but what else is new?

So, is this exaggerated? Was it a middle finger? Were you embarrassed? Proud?

"You know, I'll be honest with you, it was kind of surprising there were a lot of Steelers fans in the crowd," Jim Zorn said. "It reminded me of the Super Bowl in '05 when they were giving out those yellow towels and stuff like that. I don't think it affected us any, but it was unusual to see so many yellow towels."

"Hey, I watched those little yellow towels up there," Samuels said. "They had a lot of people here. But they're right down the highway. I didn't expect that, but they had a lot of people show up."

"I was surprised to see as many Pittsburgh Steelers fans in our stadium tonight," Jason Campbell said. "You know, there was a LOT of them and I was definitely surprised to see that many of them in our home stadium. But our fans was loud when our defense was out there, they gave us a lot of opportunities, [they were] behind us. And if we could have just kept them in the game so they could feed off it it really could have went in another direction."
:goodposting: :goodposting: :goodposting: :drive: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :towelwave:
 
Leaving little doubt who has the best fan base in the NFL....maybe all of sports.
Im normally hesitant to throw around such high praise, particularly to a rival group of fans. But Ive shared that thought for many, many years. Those Steelers fans are rabid. They always seem to travel. They buy everything in sight. And they love their team as much if not more than any other fans Ive ever come across. Too bad Washington's O was so pathetic last night that they couldnt calm down that towel-waving bunch of hooligans. Nice win last night, Steelers fans.
 

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