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owboys: Lions to interview Garrett

The News

The Lions have received permission to interview Cowboys offensive coordinator Jason Garrett for their head coaching vacancy, according to NFL.com.

Our View

Garrett received a nice contract extension last season from Jerry Jones and was viewed as the successor to Wade Phillips in Dallas. His availability is likely related to the Cowboys failing to make the playoffs despite one of the league's most potent offenses.

I know the Cowboys offense sucked, but if Garrett could land in Detroit that can only help CJ through his primetime years! Here is to hoping

 
seems to me that DET need more of a defensive-oriented guy. They actually could score even with sucky QBs but couldn't stop anybody.

 
The problem with the Lions is not one in which a new head coach can solve, nor is it a problem that a new player can solve. The problem with the Lions is that the ownership is terrible - everything else washes downhill from there.

There is a reason Matt Millen lasted as long as he did, there is a reason they had so many horrible draft choices, there is a reason that every time a FA goes there it ends up being a career killing move, there is a reason they set a record this year for futility, there is a reason that I would bet the Lions do not make the playoffs in the next five years.

THE OWNERSHIP.

 
Our ViewHis availability is likely related to the Cowboys failing to make the playoffs despite one of the league's most potent offenses.
that's BS. he was available last year. JJ doesn't decline interviews for his people.
 
Maybe the Lions feel bad about the trade? Cowboys fans everywhere should be thrilled if they take him.

 
it doesn't make any difference who the Lions hire as coach. Megatron is a STUD and will get his no matter who the coach is.

 
seems to me that DET need more of a defensive-oriented guy. They actually could score even with sucky QBs but couldn't stop anybody.
Marinelli WAS a defensive guy.You could've made Bill Belichick head coach and Tony Dungy defensive coordinator and the 2008 Lions would've still had one of the worst defenses in history. They just don't have talent on that side of the ball.
 
seems to me that DET need more of a defensive-oriented guy. They actually could score even with sucky QBs but couldn't stop anybody.
Marinelli WAS a defensive guy.You could've made Bill Belichick head coach and Tony Dungy defensive coordinator and the 2008 Lions would've still had one of the worst defenses in history. They just don't have talent on that side of the ball.
Heard they were after Spagnola. Would be kind of a shame, I think he'll make a fine head coach and I'd like to see him end up in a good situation. Garrett would make sense, put some points on the board while you work on that defense.
 
Our ViewHis availability is likely related to the Cowboys failing to make the playoffs despite one of the league's most potent offenses.
that's BS. he was available last year. JJ doesn't decline interviews for his people.
The reason Garrett is available right NOW is because the Cowboys are not in the playoffs. If they had made a wildcard bid then by rule he would not be available to interview. FWIW the coaching staffs from the teams with a bye are available to interview until saturday. Then not again until they are out of the playoffs.
 
No one can be worse than Moronelli. He singlehandedly lost games this year with incompetance.

Example: 1st game vs Minnesota he runs that old beat up hack Rudi Johnson 17 times for 38 yards and ignores the explosiveness of Kevin Smith who gained 62 yards on only 5 carries.

 
seems to me that DET need more of a defensive-oriented guy. They actually could score even with sucky QBs but couldn't stop anybody.
Marinelli WAS a defensive guy.You could've made Bill Belichick head coach and Tony Dungy defensive coordinator and the 2008 Lions would've still had one of the worst defenses in history. They just don't have talent on that side of the ball.
Maybe the defense is all union guys? :unsure:
 
Our ViewHis availability is likely related to the Cowboys failing to make the playoffs despite one of the league's most potent offenses.
that's BS. he was available last year. JJ doesn't decline interviews for his people.
The reason Garrett is available right NOW is because the Cowboys are not in the playoffs. If they had made a wildcard bid then by rule he would not be available to interview. FWIW the coaching staffs from the teams with a bye are available to interview until saturday. Then not again until they are out of the playoffs.
yes, i'm well aware of how you could read that first part as an explanationbut you throw in the rest of that sentence, despite one of the league's most potent offenses, and the word likely, it's a shot not an explanation of his currently availability. plus the sentence right before. and it being under the section Our View highlighting it's an opinion not a fact.
 
Normally coaches can't make lateral moves without compensation. I may be wrong, but I think Garrett is Dallas "assistant Head Coach" or something similar. So, he may not be able to take a head coaching job without Dallas getting compensation. Again, not positive, but...

 
owboys: Lions to interview GarrettThe NewsThe Lions have received permission to interview Cowboys offensive coordinator Jason Garrett for their head coaching vacancy, according to NFL.com.Our ViewGarrett received a nice contract extension last season from Jerry Jones and was viewed as the successor to Wade Phillips in Dallas. His availability is likely related to the Cowboys failing to make the playoffs despite one of the league's most potent offenses. I know the Cowboys offense sucked, but if Garrett could land in Detroit that can only help CJ through his primetime years! Here is to hoping
Yes, because TO performed so much better in the cowboys offense than cj in the lions.
 
Normally coaches can't make lateral moves without compensation. I may be wrong, but I think Garrett is Dallas "assistant Head Coach" or something similar. So, he may not be able to take a head coaching job without Dallas getting compensation. Again, not positive, but...
OK, I may be dumb here, but how in the world is moving from an Assistant Head Coach to the Head coach a lateral move?
 
owboys: Lions to interview GarrettThe NewsThe Lions have received permission to interview Cowboys offensive coordinator Jason Garrett for their head coaching vacancy, according to NFL.com.Our ViewGarrett received a nice contract extension last season from Jerry Jones and was viewed as the successor to Wade Phillips in Dallas. His availability is likely related to the Cowboys failing to make the playoffs despite one of the league's most potent offenses. I know the Cowboys offense sucked, but if Garrett could land in Detroit that can only help CJ through his primetime years! Here is to hoping
Yes, because TO performed so much better in the cowboys offense than cj in the lions.
CJ is so much better at this point in his career than Owens. Owens lacks any explosiveness anymore, the guy is pretty much washed up, and he will never admit it
 
I can't think of a franchise that could use the services of Marty Schottenheimer more. He would change the personality and culture of that team, which is what he excels at. I agree that their problems go beyond the people on the sidelines, but that would be an excellent start.

 
Report: Frazier to interview for Lions job

December 29th, 2008 – 8:32 PM by Judd Zulgad

Minneapolis Star and Tribune

The NFL Network reports that Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier is among the assistants who will interview for the Detroit Lions head coaching position. The job opened today when the Lions fired Rod Marinelli after an 0-16 season and it was expected that Detroit might contact the Vikings as early as today to seek permission to speak to Frazier.

According to the Associated Press, the Lions already have received permission to interview New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo and Tennessee Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz. The NFL Network also reports Detroit plans to interview Dallas Cowboys offensive coordinator Jason Garrett and Washington Redskins secondary coach Jerry Gray.

Frazier interviewed for the Falcons and Dolphins head coaching jobs last season. Frazier can’t interview with another team this week, but if the Vikings beat the Eagles in their playoff game Sunday he could be interviewed by Lions officials in Minneapolis next week.

 
I can't think of a franchise that could use the services of Marty Schottenheimer more. He would change the personality and culture of that team, which is what he excels at. I agree that their problems go beyond the people on the sidelines, but that would be an excellent start.
Please don't inflict Marty the WR-killer on my Megatron. I'm actually pro-Marty in general, but his WRs never put up numbers.
 
The problem with the Lions is not one in which a new head coach can solve, nor is it a problem that a new player can solve. The problem with the Lions is that the ownership is terrible - everything else washes downhill from there.There is a reason Matt Millen lasted as long as he did, there is a reason they had so many horrible draft choices, there is a reason that every time a FA goes there it ends up being a career killing move, there is a reason they set a record this year for futility, there is a reason that I would bet the Lions do not make the playoffs in the next five years. THE OWNERSHIP.
:thumbup: It's all about ownership.
 
I can't think of a franchise that could use the services of Marty Schottenheimer more. He would change the personality and culture of that team, which is what he excels at. I agree that their problems go beyond the people on the sidelines, but that would be an excellent start.
Please don't inflict Marty the WR-killer on my Megatron. I'm actually pro-Marty in general, but his WRs never put up numbers.
Has Marty ever coached an elite WR talent? I can't think of one. I do know that for all the "Martyball" references, his teams do pass the ball when they have the capacity to do so. Bernie Kosar, and Joe Montana and Brees and Rivers all put up passing numbers under Marty.
 
Our View

Garrett received a nice contract extension last season from Jerry Jones and was viewed as the successor to Wade Phillips in Dallas. His availability is likely related to the Cowboys failing to make the playoffs despite one of the league's most potent offenses.
Cowboys are hoping Garrett gets hired elsewhere. Then they can fire Phillips, and not be forced into hiring Garrett as HC. That team needs a disciplinarian HC. Parcells to Wade reminds me of Johnson to Switzer.
 
I just heard on ESPN radio an interview with someone from the Denver post. When asked who he thought the next Denver coach would be, he replied, "I better save something for my column". Then Garrett's name was thrown at him as the next Denver coach, and he didn't deny it, and endorsed it, and said that Denver would have to be stupid to fire Shanahan and not have a plan.

 
Desert_Power said:
I know Garrett is highly regarded, but I have never seen why.
I think it's the fact that he has an ivy league diploma. When so much these days is about scheming, that's not a bad place to start. Kinda hard to blame Garrett for the Dallas Debacle. He had like 5 people that he needed top please in order to have that team not implode. Jones's meddling is notorious, Wilson, Romo, Owens, and to a lesser (and really laughable) extent Roy Williams. I'd be interested to see what he could do if given the reigns with very little ownership pressure involvement at all (aka detroit). I think being that smart and a part of a winning organization for that long has to count for something. Suprisingly I like all the people being talked about for coaches. What scares me is that they decided to promote the GM from within.
 
Mr Capicollo said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Mr Capicollo said:
I can't think of a franchise that could use the services of Marty Schottenheimer more. He would change the personality and culture of that team, which is what he excels at. I agree that their problems go beyond the people on the sidelines, but that would be an excellent start.
Please don't inflict Marty the WR-killer on my Megatron. I'm actually pro-Marty in general, but his WRs never put up numbers.
Has Marty ever coached an elite WR talent? I can't think of one. I do know that for all the "Martyball" references, his teams do pass the ball when they have the capacity to do so. Bernie Kosar, and Joe Montana and Brees and Rivers all put up passing numbers under Marty.
I always understood "Martyball" to mean getting ultraconservative with the lead late in the game - a very limited offense and a prevent defense. Its why Elway would constantly have 4th quarter comebacks against the Browns/Chiefs.
 
switz said:
Our View

Garrett received a nice contract extension last season from Jerry Jones and was viewed as the successor to Wade Phillips in Dallas. His availability is likely related to the Cowboys failing to make the playoffs despite one of the league's most potent offenses.
Cowboys are hoping Garrett gets hired elsewhere. Then they can fire Phillips, and not be forced into hiring Garrett as HC. That team needs a disciplinarian HC. Parcells to Wade reminds me of Johnson to Switzer.
They seemed okay last year.
 
Mr Capicollo said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Mr Capicollo said:
I can't think of a franchise that could use the services of Marty Schottenheimer more. He would change the personality and culture of that team, which is what he excels at. I agree that their problems go beyond the people on the sidelines, but that would be an excellent start.
Please don't inflict Marty the WR-killer on my Megatron. I'm actually pro-Marty in general, but his WRs never put up numbers.
Has Marty ever coached an elite WR talent? I can't think of one. I do know that for all the "Martyball" references, his teams do pass the ball when they have the capacity to do so. Bernie Kosar, and Joe Montana and Brees and Rivers all put up passing numbers under Marty.
I always understood "Martyball" to mean getting ultraconservative with the lead late in the game - a very limited offense and a prevent defense. Its why Elway would constantly have 4th quarter comebacks against the Browns/Chiefs.
I would think anything John Elway did would have no predictive ability on the 2009 season.
 
Mr Capicollo said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Mr Capicollo said:
I can't think of a franchise that could use the services of Marty Schottenheimer more. He would change the personality and culture of that team, which is what he excels at. I agree that their problems go beyond the people on the sidelines, but that would be an excellent start.
Please don't inflict Marty the WR-killer on my Megatron. I'm actually pro-Marty in general, but his WRs never put up numbers.
Has Marty ever coached an elite WR talent? I can't think of one. I do know that for all the "Martyball" references, his teams do pass the ball when they have the capacity to do so. Bernie Kosar, and Joe Montana and Brees and Rivers all put up passing numbers under Marty.
I always understood "Martyball" to mean getting ultraconservative with the lead late in the game - a very limited offense and a prevent defense. Its why Elway would constantly have 4th quarter comebacks against the Browns/Chiefs.
I would think anything John Elway did would have no predictive ability on the 2009 season.
Mike Shanahan disagrees with you. :lmao:
 
The problem with the Lions is not one in which a new head coach can solve, nor is it a problem that a new player can solve. The problem with the Lions is that the ownership is terrible - everything else washes downhill from there.There is a reason Matt Millen lasted as long as he did, there is a reason they had so many horrible draft choices, there is a reason that every time a FA goes there it ends up being a career killing move, there is a reason they set a record this year for futility, there is a reason that I would bet the Lions do not make the playoffs in the next five years. THE OWNERSHIP.
As an outsider looking in, I agree with this 100%.This wasn't Marinelli's fault, nor was it any of the coaches fault. Plain and simple there is no NFL caliber talent on this roster save for CJ and maybe a couple others.
 
Is Garrett's stock still high? :lmao: He seems a bit like yesterday's news.
That's what I was thinking. Last year he was all the rage. This year? He, and the Cowboys, looked very ordinary. Defenses figured them out a lot easier this year.That's not to say he couldn't be a decent HC, but personally I'd like to have someone else. With those saying it should be more of a defensive mind, I agree. I wouldn't mind the NYG Defensive Coordinator. Of course, my dream would be Cowher, but no way that happens... :bag:
 
The problem with the Lions is not one in which a new head coach can solve, nor is it a problem that a new player can solve. The problem with the Lions is that the ownership is terrible - everything else washes downhill from there.

There is a reason Matt Millen lasted as long as he did, there is a reason they had so many horrible draft choices, there is a reason that every time a FA goes there it ends up being a career killing move, there is a reason they set a record this year for futility, there is a reason that I would bet the Lions do not make the playoffs in the next five years.

THE OWNERSHIP.
:thumbdown: I probably don't follow them as closely as you, but isn't Ford a relatively hands-off guy who doesn't meddle in personnel and is willing to spend $ on a GM/Coach? The fact that he hired the wrong GM and then waited too long to fire him is a valid criticism, but I don't know why that puts them in the category of a franchise that can't turn it around if they do bring in a good GM. Cincy & Buffalo otoh....
 
Jason Garrett reminds me of Saints head coach Sean Payton...good and bad.

The Lions need a head coach who has had the top job previously. First time coaches would be foolish to take on Detroit right now.

 
I'd vote for Spagnuolo. Have no idea what kind of head coach he would make but he sure is successful defensively. He studied under the best at Philly for 8 years and then turned the 25th ranked Giants defense into a Super Bowl unit and devised a game plan to stop the unstoppable, Brady.

I think this guy deserves a shot.

What the hell has Garrett done? Take a team of All-Stars and a QB somebody else developed and churn out an explosive offense that can do NOTHING in big games? Against the premier defensive coordinators this guy is overmatched.

Spagnuolo is exactly the opposite. He produces in the biggest of games.

 
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The problem with the Lions is not one in which a new head coach can solve, nor is it a problem that a new player can solve. The problem with the Lions is that the ownership is terrible - everything else washes downhill from there.

There is a reason Matt Millen lasted as long as he did, there is a reason they had so many horrible draft choices, there is a reason that every time a FA goes there it ends up being a career killing move, there is a reason they set a record this year for futility, there is a reason that I would bet the Lions do not make the playoffs in the next five years.

THE OWNERSHIP.
:thumbup: I probably don't follow them as closely as you, but isn't Ford a relatively hands-off guy who doesn't meddle in personnel and is willing to spend $ on a GM/Coach? The fact that he hired the wrong GM and then waited too long to fire him is a valid criticism, but I don't know why that puts them in the category of a franchise that can't turn it around if they do bring in a good GM. Cincy & Buffalo otoh....
This right here is a huge misconception.Ford while he is a loyal guy, you will get your chance to sink or swim. He is a meddler (joey Harrington) and he is nortoriously cheap. Now when I say cheap this is what I mean. He will pay going rate for a Coach or GM, but if he still has say Matt Millen to pay off, then he does the cheap move by hiring Martin Mayhew rather than shell out the bucks for Pioli or Cowher etc.

 
I'd vote for Spagnuolo. Have no idea what kind of head coach he would make but he sure is successful defensively. He studied under the best at Philly for 8 years and then turned the 25th ranked Giants defense into a Super Bowl unit and devised a game plan to stop the unstoppable, Brady.I think this guy deserves a shot.What the hell has Garrett done? Take a team of All-Stars and a QB somebody else developed and churn out an explosive offense that can do NOTHING in big games? Against the premier defensive coordinators this guy is overmatched. Spagnuolo is exactly the opposite. He produces in the biggest of games.
So did Vince Young, but that didn't exactly translate to the next level.
 
I'd vote for Spagnuolo. Have no idea what kind of head coach he would make but he sure is successful defensively. He studied under the best at Philly for 8 years and then turned the 25th ranked Giants defense into a Super Bowl unit and devised a game plan to stop the unstoppable, Brady.I think this guy deserves a shot.What the hell has Garrett done? Take a team of All-Stars and a QB somebody else developed and churn out an explosive offense that can do NOTHING in big games? Against the premier defensive coordinators this guy is overmatched. Spagnuolo is exactly the opposite. He produces in the biggest of games.
So did Vince Young, but that didn't exactly translate to the next level.
:confused: Vince Young was a coach?
 

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