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Gauging Ryan Grant dynasty pick value (1 Viewer)

Hoss_Cartwright

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I'm thinking his value risides around early 2nd in a rookie draft. I had an owner offer me Grant for a pick that will be top 4 and I turned him down. What pick would you give up for Grant?

 
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i think he's worth a late 1st pick. No way would i give up a top 5 pick for him, but if someone gave up a pick in the 8-12 range it wouldn't be a bad move.

 
As a Grant dynasty owner, I would not trade him for a 2nd round rookie. That's no-man's land and a very remote chance you'd luck into a RB with Grant's upside. I feel like the time he missed during camp just really set him way back. That the Packers continue to feed him the ball is a good sign. I'd hold him if late 1st/early 2nd is all you could get for him. I'd want a premium based on his upside. The value will only increase IMHO as winter sets in.

 
i think he's worth a late 1st pick. No way would i give up a top 5 pick for him, but if someone gave up a pick in the 8-12 range it wouldn't be a bad move.
At first I thought the same way as you, but I would have a hard time giving up a 1st rd pick for him. I'm not convinced he's any good, and I'm not convinced that Green Bay is committed to him long term. Well, as long term as any RB can be.
 
i think he's worth a late 1st pick. No way would i give up a top 5 pick for him, but if someone gave up a pick in the 8-12 range it wouldn't be a bad move.
At first I thought the same way as you, but I would have a hard time giving up a 1st rd pick for him. I'm not convinced he's any good, and I'm not convinced that Green Bay is committed to him long term. Well, as long term as any RB can be.
Perhaps, but i dont think a Grant owner would trade him for an early 2nd round pick. He might as well just keep Grant if thats the best he can get for him. Either trade him for a mid-late 1st rounder or keep him, imo.
 
I would rather have Grant over any pick outside of maybe the top 3 or 4 picks in the draft. When you look at the success/failure rate of draft picks and compare to Grant who is producing Now I can't see how you could not trade any pick outside a very very early pick to get Grant.

 
As a Grant dynasty owner, I would not trade him for a 2nd round rookie. That's no-man's land and a very remote chance you'd luck into a RB with Grant's upside. I feel like the time he missed during camp just really set him way back. That the Packers continue to feed him the ball is a good sign. I'd hold him if late 1st/early 2nd is all you could get for him. I'd want a premium based on his upside. The value will only increase IMHO as winter sets in.
Actually, it was another owner trying to trade me Grant for a pick. Obviously I wouldn't trade a top 4 pick for Grant, but I disagree with you about his upside. I'm not convinced he has a lot of upside.
 
A Grant owner probably should be holding at the moment unless he can get something in the mid first (or a player(s) equal to that value). While probably not a superstar, he played beter last year and is still young enough with enough of contract to expect opportunity the remainder of this and probably next year.

 
As a Grant dynasty owner, I would not trade him for a 2nd round rookie. That's no-man's land and a very remote chance you'd luck into a RB with Grant's upside. I feel like the time he missed during camp just really set him way back. That the Packers continue to feed him the ball is a good sign. I'd hold him if late 1st/early 2nd is all you could get for him. I'd want a premium based on his upside. The value will only increase IMHO as winter sets in.
Actually, it was another owner trying to trade me Grant for a pick. Obviously I wouldn't trade a top 4 pick for Grant, but I disagree with you about his upside. I'm not convinced he has a lot of upside.
I'm not going to try talking you into believing in a player you don't like. I'd say there is a significant chance his owner not only would not accept a 2nd, but would be insulted by that sort of offer. I would be. For the sake of diplomacy, you need to be able to recognize when you are far lower on a player's value than the norm. If you don't like Grant at all, and see no upside, you're better off saying 'no thanks' and walking away. It's better than offering garbage to an owner you're probably going to want to negotiate with in the future for players you DO like.
 
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I think Grant is one of those in between guys right now, as far as value. I don't think I would give up any 1st rounder for him right now, but if I owned him, there is no way I would take anything less than a mid 1st. There are many guys I feel this way about.

 
I think Grant is one of those in between guys right now, as far as value. I don't think I would give up any 1st rounder for him right now, but if I owned him, there is no way I would take anything less than a mid 1st. There are many guys I feel this way about.
Just the way I see it. A 2nd rounder is nothing, probably a rookie WR that has less than 15% chance of contributing meaningfully to your team, and that probably not for several years.
 
A 2nd rounder is nothing, probably a rookie WR that has less than 15% chance of contributing meaningfully to your team, and that probably not for several years.
Interestingly enough, the second round this past year was made up of Ryan, Flacco, DeSean, Royal, Avery, Hightower, Slaton, Torain, Charles, Carlson, Keller. Obviously some of these players went late 1st in various leagues, but 2nd rounders do carry some value.
 
I think Grant is one of those in between guys right now, as far as value. I don't think I would give up any 1st rounder for him right now, but if I owned him, there is no way I would take anything less than a mid 1st. There are many guys I feel this way about.
Just the way I see it. A 2nd rounder is nothing, probably a rookie WR that has less than 15% chance of contributing meaningfully to your team, and that probably not for several years.
Let's look at the 2nd rd in some of my dynasty league drafts. I see players like DeSean Jackson, Slaton, Hightower, Torain, Avery, Royal, Charles, and even Ryan who went in the 2nd rd. How do you compare the value of these players to Ryan Grant? I would say they are comparable, and I wouldn't trade some of them for Grant.2.01 13. JohnnyU Jackson, DeSean PHI WR ® Sun Aug 10 2:30:31 p.m. ET 2008

2.02 14. Ringworm (2014 Champs) Slaton, Steve HOU RB ® Sun Aug 10 2:39:34 p.m. ET 2008

2.03 15. Beer Gardeners Charles, Jamaal KCC RB ® Sun Aug 10 2:39:34 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.04 16. Reos Thomas, Devin WAS WR ® Sun Aug 10 2:45:25 p.m. ET 2008

2.05 17. Beer Gardeners Hightower, Tim ARI RB ® Sun Aug 10 10:09:59 p.m. ET 2008

2.06 18. JohnnyU Keller, Dustin NYJ TE ® Sun Aug 10 10:16:38 p.m. ET 2008

2.07 19. $teelerMike Avery, Donnie STL WR ® Mon Aug 11 1:25:47 a.m. ET 2008

2.08 20. $teelerMike Royal, Eddie DEN WR ® Mon Aug 11 1:26:10 a.m. ET 2008

2.09 21. Balrogs Ryan, Matt ATL QB ® Mon Aug 11 1:44:21 a.m. ET 2008

2.10 22. CELTIC Carlson, John SEA TE ® Mon Aug 11 6:35:00 p.m. ET 2008

2.11 23. CELTIC Torain, Ryan DEN RB ® Mon Aug 11 6:35:09 p.m. ET 2008

2.12 24. Urine Parmele, Jalen FA RB ®

2.01 13. EndZone Wizards Keller, Dustin NYJ TE ® Mon May 12 9:46:05 p.m. ET 2008

2.02 14. Crenshaw Gangbangers Thomas, Devin WAS WR ® Mon May 12 11:42:11 p.m. ET 2008

2.03 15. Skidmarks Sweed, Limas PIT WR ® Mon May 12 11:42:11 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.04 16. Wranglers Charles, Jamaal KCC RB ® Wed May 14 10:08:26 p.m. ET 2008

2.05 17. Whoa Nellies Flacco, Joe BAL QB ® Wed May 14 11:23:57 p.m. ET 2008

2.06 18. Bada Bing Choice, Tashard DAL RB ® Thu May 15 6:56:17 a.m. ET 2008

2.07 19. JohnnyU Jackson, DeSean PHI WR ® Thu May 15 8:11:53 a.m. ET 2008

2.08 20. The Willie McCoys Kelly, Malcolm WAS WR ® Thu May 15 8:11:53 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.09 21. Crenshaw Gangbangers Nelson, Jordy GBP WR ® Thu May 15 11:18:44 a.m. ET 2008

2.10 22. Steel Curtain Brohm, Brian GBP QB ® Thu May 15 11:18:44 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.11 23. JohnnyU Manningham, Mario NYG WR ® Thu May 15 11:26:30 a.m. ET 2008

2.12 24. Smackdown Avery, Donnie STL WR ®

2.01 13. Appalachian Trailblazers Thomas, Devin WAS WR ® Tue May 13 6:42:58 a.m. ET 2008

2.02 14. Crazy 88 Ryan, Matt ATL QB ® Tue May 13 9:05:13 a.m. ET 2008

2.03 15. Gridiron Giants Slaton, Steve HOU RB ® Tue May 13 9:05:13 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.04 16. Gridiron Giants Keller, Dustin NYJ TE ® Tue May 13 9:05:13 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.05 17. JohnnyU Jackson, DeSean PHI WR ® Tue May 13 2:26:51 p.m. ET 2008

2.06 18. Baytown Ligers Nelson, Jordy GBP WR ® Tue May 13 10:52:41 p.m. ET 2008

2.07 19. StarSailors Kelly, Malcolm WAS WR ® Tue May 13 11:16:55 p.m. ET 2008

2.08 20. Skidmarks Avery, Donnie STL WR ® Tue May 13 11:16:55 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.09 21. JohnnyU Manningham, Mario NYG WR ® Tue May 13 11:43:26 p.m. ET 2008

2.10 22. Gridiron Giants Choice, Tashard DAL RB ® Tue May 13 11:43:26 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.11 23. Green Acres Simpson, Jerome CIN WR ® Wed May 14 9:52:10 a.m. ET 2008

2.12 24. T-Wally Titans Bennett, Earl CHI WR ®

2.01 13. Indyhavoc Charles, Jamaal KCC RB ® Wed May 14 7:00:29 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on My Draft List

2.02 14. JohnnyU Choice, Tashard DAL RB ® Wed May 14 8:35:19 a.m. ET 2008

2.03 15. JohnnyU Jackson, DeSean PHI WR ® Wed May 14 8:35:34 a.m. ET 2008

2.04 16. Ink Inc. Torain, Ryan DEN RB ® Wed May 14 9:00:09 a.m. ET 2008

2.05 17. JohnnyU Manningham, Mario NYG WR ® Wed May 14 10:15:32 a.m. ET 2008

2.06 18. Green Acres Nelson, Jordy GBP WR ® Wed May 14 10:26:50 a.m. ET 2008

2.07 19. Warriors Slaton, Steve HOU RB ® Wed May 14 11:14:58 a.m. ET 2008

2.08 20. Hangman Flacco, Joe BAL QB ® Wed May 14 11:21:51 a.m. ET 2008

2.09 21. Swamp Donkeys Avery, Donnie STL WR ® Wed May 14 11:51:56 a.m. ET 2008

2.10 22. Team America Bennett, Earl CHI WR ® Wed May 14 11:51:56 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.11 23. Indyhavoc Kelly, Malcolm WAS WR ® Wed May 14 11:51:56 a.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on My Draft List

2.12 24. CowboyUp Keller, Dustin NYJ TE ®

 
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A 2nd rounder is nothing, probably a rookie WR that has less than 15% chance of contributing meaningfully to your team, and that probably not for several years.
Interestingly enough, the second round this past year was made up of Ryan, Flacco, DeSean, Royal, Avery, Hightower, Slaton, Torain, Charles, Carlson, Keller. Obviously some of these players went late 1st in various leagues, but 2nd rounders do carry some value.
I think this was a very rare rookie class to produce so many immediate fantasy dividends. I don't have any stats handy to back this up but I'd bet it is very very rare to get this kind of production from this many rookies.
 
I think Grant is one of those in between guys right now, as far as value. I don't think I would give up any 1st rounder for him right now, but if I owned him, there is no way I would take anything less than a mid 1st. There are many guys I feel this way about.
;) no one will give up a first for grant right now and no owner will sell him for a second.
 
A 2nd rounder is nothing, probably a rookie WR that has less than 15% chance of contributing meaningfully to your team, and that probably not for several years.
Interestingly enough, the second round this past year was made up of Ryan, Flacco, DeSean, Royal, Avery, Hightower, Slaton, Torain, Charles, Carlson, Keller. Obviously some of these players went late 1st in various leagues, but 2nd rounders do carry some value.
I think this was a very rare rookie class to produce so many immediate fantasy dividends. I don't have any stats handy to back this up but I'd bet it is very very rare to get this kind of production from this many rookies.
I agree, the last 2 rookie classes haven't been very good for offensive players in round 2, IMO.
 
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I'm not one to try and compare upcoming draft classes to ones in the past.
....but some posters need not throw out the blanket that all 2nd rounders are projects either.
I think anyone would admit that the 2nd round can bring talented players, although I'd throw in that often the talent appears much better year 1 than it does a couple years down the road after most of the still sexy rookies do flame out, not unlike 1st round talent often does. For example, I was fortunate enough to draft M.Barber at 2.6 in 2005, but realize that the guy at 2.5 took Clarett, who after being drafted by Denver still appeared to be valuable, perhaps comparable to Torrain today. Also, while I was fortunate enough to get MJD at 2.5 in 2006, the guy at 2.4 got Jerome Harrison and the next RB to go was Mike Bell, who again seemed great a couple years into the future before becoming garbage. Yeah, Desean Jackson looks like a world beater... not unlike Kerry Colbert did as a rookie.Regardless, the bottom line is you should not expect to be able to get an existing young/starting RB like Grant for a 2nd round rookie pick, unless you're dealing with a sucker. Efforts to try to argue that 2nd round rookie pick is good value for a starting RB makes you look like you value Grant more highly than you admit and are trying to pull a quick one. I'd have to ask, if you personally see so much value in the 2nd, and see zero upside in Grant, why the doubletalk? Why even consider a trade? Lowballing is a hopeless endeavor that just makes a person look foolish when trying to explain its not actually a lowball.
 
I think Grant is one of those in between guys right now, as far as value. I don't think I would give up any 1st rounder for him right now, but if I owned him, there is no way I would take anything less than a mid 1st. There are many guys I feel this way about.
Just the way I see it. A 2nd rounder is nothing, probably a rookie WR that has less than 15% chance of contributing meaningfully to your team, and that probably not for several years.
Let's look at the 2nd rd in some of my dynasty league drafts. I see players like DeSean Jackson, Slaton, Hightower, Torain, Avery, Royal, Charles, and even Ryan who went in the 2nd rd. How do you compare the value of these players to Ryan Grant? I would say they are comparable, and I wouldn't trade some of them for Grant.2.01 13. JohnnyU Jackson, DeSean PHI WR ® Sun Aug 10 2:30:31 p.m. ET 2008

2.02 14. Ringworm (2014 Champs) Slaton, Steve HOU RB ® Sun Aug 10 2:39:34 p.m. ET 2008

2.03 15. Beer Gardeners Charles, Jamaal KCC RB ® Sun Aug 10 2:39:34 p.m. ET 2008 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.04 16. Reos Thomas, Devin WAS WR ® Sun Aug 10 2:45:25 p.m. ET 2008

2.05 17. Beer Gardeners Hightower, Tim ARI RB ® Sun Aug 10 10:09:59 p.m. ET 2008

2.06 18. JohnnyU Keller, Dustin NYJ TE ® Sun Aug 10 10:16:38 p.m. ET 2008

2.07 19. $teelerMike Avery, Donnie STL WR ® Mon Aug 11 1:25:47 a.m. ET 2008

2.08 20. $teelerMike Royal, Eddie DEN WR ® Mon Aug 11 1:26:10 a.m. ET 2008

2.09 21. Balrogs Ryan, Matt ATL QB ® Mon Aug 11 1:44:21 a.m. ET 2008

2.10 22. CELTIC Carlson, John SEA TE ® Mon Aug 11 6:35:00 p.m. ET 2008

2.11 23. CELTIC Torain, Ryan DEN RB ® Mon Aug 11 6:35:09 p.m. ET 2008

2.12 24. Urine Parmele, Jalen FA RB ®
Slaton is the only one with more value than Grant. If a Grant owner would trade me him for a mid-late first, I'd insta-accept.
 
Slaton is the only one with more value than Grant. If a Grant owner would trade me him for a mid-late first, I'd insta-accept.
In a dynasty, I'd much rather Slaton, DeSean, Hightower, Avery, Royal, and Ryan over Grant, but to each his own.
 
Slaton is the only one with more value than Grant. If a Grant owner would trade me him for a mid-late first, I'd insta-accept.
In a dynasty, I'd much rather Slaton, DeSean, Hightower, Avery, Royal, and Ryan over Grant, but to each his own.
:unsure: for sure slaton, hightower, and Ryan. And like you i'd also take the others listed over Grant.Grant isn't the type of guy that is going to have a starting gig for long. He just happens to be on a team without another viable RB.
 
I'm rebuilding in one dynasty league and just aquirred Grant.

The trade -

I gave LT/Sproles

I received Grant/A. Bryant/Mike Walker/1st round rookie pick

So I'm really hoping Grant pans out.

 
Slaton is the only one with more value than Grant. If a Grant owner would trade me him for a mid-late first, I'd insta-accept.
In a dynasty, I'd much rather Slaton, DeSean, Hightower, Avery, Royal, and Ryan over Grant, but to each his own.
Here's some more general data of guys in 40+ leagues with ADP in the 2nd round of 12 team leagues ( spec1alk's Zealots rookie aggregations )....
11 Thomas, Devin WAS WR 14.1112 Sweed, Limas PIT WR 14.6113 Charles, Jamaal KCC RB 14.6914 Flacco, Joe BAL QB 17.8915 Torain, Ryan DEN RB 18.0816 Avery, Donnie STL WR 19.2317 Kelly, Malcolm WAS WR 19.6318 Slaton, Steve HOU RB 20.8419 Brohm, Brian GBP QB 21.520 Jackson, DeSean PHI WR 23.621 Rivers, Keith CIN LB 23.85
Rice, Sidney MIN WR 14.24Irons, Kenny CIN RB 14.74Jarrett, Dwayne CAR WR 15.2Gonzalez, Anthony IND WR 15.98Willis, Patrick SFO LB 16.32Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR 17.26Booker, Lorenzo MIA RB 20.16Olsen, Greg CHI TE 21.68Posluszny, Paul BUF LB 22.56Hunt, Tony PHI RB 22.92Smith, Steve NYG WR 22.94Davis, Craig SDC WR 23.92Stanton, Drew DET QB 23.96
Drew, Maurice JAC RB 12.4Norwood, Jerious ATL RB 14.7Calhoun, Brian DET RB 15.7Williams, Mario HOU DE 17.4Lewis, Marcedes JAC TE 17.8Sims, Ernie DET LB 18.6Moss, Sinorice NYG WR 19.3Greenway, Chad MIN LB 20.3Huff, Michael OAK S 22.6Jennings, Greg GBP WR 23.8
Choose who you want, but for me there's only 2 guys in 2008 ( Avery, Slaton ), 0 guys in 2007, and 2 guy in 2006 ( MJD, Jennings ) that I would trade straight up for Grant. I can see arguments for Gonzo and DeSean, but that's really the list.So, we're talking 6 hits out of 35+ guys. Hard to validate making that deal. A middle first round pick though, I'm almost certain I'd take it. I agree with moderated that he's a guy ripe for replacement if he doesn't pick up his performance, and even if he does it seems like they'll want to bring in a better COP. I've been trying to move him in most of the places I have him, finding a buyer has been difficult.If anyone's curious about relative value, I moved Grant+late 1st for MJD, and in another I have an offer to give Grant/Royal for Randy. The jury's still out.
 
My apologies for my blanket statement, I rarely make those. .

This year's draft at the skill positions was exceptionally deep, very much unlike the vast majority of drafts.

Unless next year's draft is going to be similarly deep, I stand by my statement. A 2nd round pick in my 10 team dynasty has historically been a very big roll of the dice.

A typical rookie draft (and I am talking about WR/RB/QB/TE) has about 4-6 blue chip prospects. QBs are crapshoots and usually take a couple of years to develop, and don't hold the same value as starting RBs except in large leagues or start 2 QB leagues. TEs are usually the same, where there are usually not more than 2 or 3 that are worth top 24 picks, and they usually take a couple of years to develop as well.

That leaves RBs and WRs. The top 6 RBs will usually go in round one, often in the top 6 or 7 picks. So a 2nd round pick is often a WR, and not a top 5 WR at that.

So is Ryan Grant only worth somewhere between the #6 and #15 rookie WR, or a 3rd or 4th tier rookie RB?

Let's look back to 2007... here is my league's rookie draft, picks 11-24:

2.01 11. Olsen, Greg CHI TE

2.02 12. Gonzalez, Anthony IND WR

2.03 13. Irons, Kenny CIN RB

2.04 14. Booker, Lorenzo MIA RB

2.05 15. Davis, Craig SDC WR

2.06 16. Quinn, Brady CLE QB

2.07 17. Russell, JaMarcus OAK QB

2.08 18. Ginn Jr., Ted MIA WR

2.09 19. Hunt, Tony PHI RB

2.10 20. Hill, Jason SFO WR

3.01 21. Smith, Steve NYG WR

3.02 22. Wolfe, Garrett CHI RB

3.03 23. Higgins, Johnnie Lee OAK WR

3.04 24. Miller, Zach OAK TE

2006:

2.01 11. Lewis, Marcedes JAC TE

2.02 12. Calhoun, Brian DET RB

2.03 13. Jennings, Greg GBP WR

2.04 14. Young, Vince TEN QB

2.05 15. Moss, Sinorice NYG WR

2.06 16. Leinart, Matt ARI QB

2.07 17. Cutler, Jay DEN QB

2.08 18. Pope, Leonard ARI TE

2.09 19. Harrison, Jerome CLE RB

2.10 20. Stovall, Maurice TBB WR

3.01 21. Reid, Willie PIT WR

3.02 22. Daniels, P.J. BAL RB

3.03 23. Croyle, Brodie KCC QB

3.04 24. Washington, Leon NYJ RB

Who on this list would you trade Ryan Grant for straight up? Jennings, then.... Cutler? Quinn? Olsen? Ginn?

At best, 3-5 out of 28 guys.

This past draft is likely a fluke, IMO.

(BTW, this is all meant in the spirit of intelligent discourse.... that should go without saying, but so many on this board take offense or spout off all too easily that I feel the need to state the obvious) :lmao:

 
and for the heck of it:

2005:

2.01 11. Jones, Matt JAC WR

2.02 12. Clarett, Maurice FA RB

2.03 13. Clan Moats, Ryan PHI RB

2.04 14. Fason, Ciatrick MIN RB

2.05 15. Morency, Vernand HOU RB

2.06 16. Brown, Reggie PHI WR

2.07 17. Parrish, Roscoe BUF WR

2.08 18. Pearman, Alvin JAC RB

2.09 19. Miller, Heath PIT TE

2.10 20. Bradley, Mark CHI WR

3.01 21. Murphy, Terrence GBP WR

3.02 22. Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB

3.03 23. Clan Sproles, Darren SDC RB

3.04 24. Barber, Marion DAL RB

2004:

2.01 11. Evans, Lee BUF WR

2.02 12. Cobbs, Cedric NEP RB

2.03 13. Jones, Greg JAC RB

2.04 14. Clayton, Michael TBB WR

2.05 15. Jenkins, Michael ATL WR

2.06 16. Manning, Eli NYG QB

2.07 17. Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB

2.08 18. Henderson, Devery NOS WR

2.09 19. Turner, Michael SDC RB

2.10 20. Rivers, Philip SDC QB

3.01 21. Colbert, Keary CAR WR

3.02 22. Troupe, Ben TEN TE

3.03 23. Ward, Derrick NYG RB

3.04 24. Losman, J.P. BUF QB

 
I think Grant is one of those in between guys right now, as far as value. I don't think I would give up any 1st rounder for him right now, but if I owned him, there is no way I would take anything less than a mid 1st. There are many guys I feel this way about.
:banned: no one will give up a first for grant right now and no owner will sell him for a second.
I gave up a 1st last week for Grant and got a 3rd in return, my 1st will fall in the 8-12 range depending on playoffs. But I needed some depth at rb and my team is built for the next couple of years. Grant gives me what I need now and gives me potential upside for the future. Both options I like better than hoping I get lucky on somebody in next years draft and have to wait on them to provide any return. Late 1st round is as big a crap shoot as the 2nd round.
 
He is worth at least a top 6 pick in rookie draft , easily .

Besides for last year where you had ton of prospect at RB ( Johnson - McFadde Bust - Stewart - Forte - Smith - Slaton).

Even now i would nt trade Grant for Kevin Smith or Matt Forte with is 3,5 ypc .

In a normal rookie draft , starting at the 3rd pick you usually guess quite a bit . So Grant is worth at least the 3rd pick in a rookie draft .

 
Slaton is the only one with more value than Grant. If a Grant owner would trade me him for a mid-late first, I'd insta-accept.
In a dynasty, I'd much rather Slaton, DeSean, Hightower, Avery, Royal, and Ryan over Grant, but to each his own.
:shrug: for sure slaton, hightower, and Ryan. And like you i'd also take the others listed over Grant.Grant isn't the type of guy that is going to have a starting gig for long. He just happens to be on a team without another viable RB.
You have to be kidding .
 
Slaton is the only one with more value than Grant. If a Grant owner would trade me him for a mid-late first, I'd insta-accept.
In a dynasty, I'd much rather Slaton, DeSean, Hightower, Avery, Royal, and Ryan over Grant, but to each his own.
:blackdot: for sure slaton, hightower, and Ryan. And like you i'd also take the others listed over Grant.Grant isn't the type of guy that is going to have a starting gig for long. He just happens to be on a team without another viable RB.
You have to be kidding .
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