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Gerald Riggs Jr. or LenDale White? (1 Viewer)

Gerald Riggs Jr. or LenDale White?

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With teams looking for a big back, why White over Riggs? Gerald Riggs Jr. seems to have all the ability that White has but will be available much later. Work ethic is not a question mark with Riggs. He has had hip and ankle injuries that have limited him in college, but nothing as serious as an ACL. He's a north-south power RB that teams are looking for who is being overlooked because of nagging injuries in college.

Riggs (5-10 3/4, 229) was timed at 4.59 and 4.63 in the 40. He had a 36 1/2-inch vertical jump, a 9-foot-7 broad jump, a 4.25 short shuttle and a 7.15 three-cone drill. He also had 17 lifts. His father was a former first-round pick who played 10 years for the Redskins and Falcons.
White (6-0¾, 244) had 15 lifts, but didn't do any vertical or long jumps. He did not run or do position drills, claiming he had an injured hamstring. White did not help himself by not doing a full workout at the Pro Day.
 
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Riggs in the 2nd rd?

He'll be lucky to be drafted.

Im a UT Vol grad, and I greatly dislike White, but theres no way Id take Riggs anywhere before the 7th round rather than burn a late first on White and hoping to whip him into shape.

 
Just name recognition. Nothing else to see here. Move along.
Yep, that's all there is to it. Only a 230lb RB who run a 4.6 and breaks tackles. There's probably no team in the NFL who would want a one-cut RB like that. :rolleyes:
 
Smoking crack up?
Figured I'd be in the minority here, but feel free to bump this thread in couple years if I'm wrong.
2nd round you went too far IMO but with all the draft talk I get sick of hearing "Lendale White, D'Brick, Leinart, Bush, Young etc" and find your Riggs Jr post interesting. I would like to get a thread started with lesser known players only.FWIW I've heard people compare Riggs' son to Payton's son and well.....I hope you're right.

 
I didn't realize Riggs had worked out at UTs pro day. Thanks cstu!

Not many Riggs fans here. I have him on my sleeper list.

edit to add that I think he his much better than Jarrett Payton

 
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I really like Riggs a lot to be honest. Placing him in the same class as White for this drafts purposes is way out of line though.

 
Smoking crack up?
Figured I'd be in the minority here, but feel free to bump this thread in couple years if I'm wrong.
2nd round you went too far IMO but with all the draft talk I get sick of hearing "Lendale White, D'Brick, Leinart, Bush, Young etc" and find your Riggs Jr post interesting. I would like to get a thread started with lesser known players only.FWIW I've heard people compare Riggs' son to Payton's son and well.....I hope you're right.
Talent-wise, there's nothing stopping Riggs from being a feature back in the NFL. He ran for 1100 yards in 2004 splitting time with Cedric Houston. However, his college career was set back by immaturity (skipping class) his first couple years and then when he was expected to break through in 2005 after a good 2004 he missed the second half of the season to an ankle injury. As far as where he is drafted, 2nd is too high but if Clarett can get drafted in the 3rd then I don't see why the same couldn't happen to Riggs. There are tons of teams who could use a bruising back like Riggs, even if it's in a RBBC - Eagles, Broncos, Colts, Steelers, etc. He doesn't have great moves like Bush, but give him a hole and he can hit it.

 
I really like Riggs a lot to be honest. Placing him in the same class as White for this drafts purposes is way out of line though.
Basically, I'm not sold on White. Or at least not enough to justify a top pick for him like he's being predicted. Obviously if White slips to the end of the 1st then he's a good pick but if he goes earlier then I'd rather take Riggs in the 3rd (or even better, the 4th/5th).
 
Drafting Riggs in the 2nd round of the NFL Draft is like drafting Craig Nall in the 12th round of a Survivor draft. Not exactly recommended. :yucky:

 
Just name recognition. Nothing else to see here. Move along.
Yep, that's all there is to it. Only a 230lb RB who run a 4.6 and breaks tackles. There's probably no team in the NFL who would want a one-cut RB like that. :rolleyes:
Have you ever seen Riggs play?As a person who has seen nearly every game Riggs has played in, I can assure you he breaks less tackles than any 229 lb Ive ever seen.

He breaks less tackles than most 199 lb RBs Ive seen.

Gerald "Arm-Tackled" Riggs, Jr.

 
Yep, that's all there is to it. Only a 230lb RB who run a 4.6 and breaks tackles. There's probably no team in the NFL who would want a one-cut RB like that. :rolleyes:
Forgot to mention the hip and ankle injuries. Both are really good for heavy RBs. No wiggle, no jiggle, no lateral movement.. just north/south. Not good.

Could he be a late round steal? sure.

But better than Lendale White? Hardly.

Lendale has character issues, but so does Riggs.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...aldriggsjr.html

 
Just name recognition. Nothing else to see here. Move along.
Yep, that's all there is to it. Only a 230lb RB who run a 4.6 and breaks tackles. There's probably no team in the NFL who would want a one-cut RB like that. :rolleyes:
Have you ever seen Riggs play?As a person who has seen nearly every game Riggs has played in, I can assure you he breaks less tackles than any 229 lb Ive ever seen.

He breaks less tackles than most 199 lb RBs Ive seen.

Gerald "Arm-Tackled" Riggs, Jr.
:yes: He is honestly one of the most underperforming-compared-to-his-measurables RBs I've ever seen. And I've been watching him because I own him (along with Maroney and Moore) in a league in which we can roster college players. He certainly could "step it up" at the next level, but it's highly doubtful.

 
Just name recognition. Nothing else to see here. Move along.
Yep, that's all there is to it. Only a 230lb RB who run a 4.6 and breaks tackles. There's probably no team in the NFL who would want a one-cut RB like that. :rolleyes:
Have you ever seen Riggs play?As a person who has seen nearly every game Riggs has played in, I can assure you he breaks less tackles than any 229 lb Ive ever seen.

He breaks less tackles than most 199 lb RBs Ive seen.

Gerald "Arm-Tackled" Riggs, Jr.
:yes: He is honestly one of the most underperforming-compared-to-his-measurables RBs I've ever seen. And I've been watching him because I own him (along with Maroney and Moore) in a league in which we can roster college players. He certainly could "step it up" at the next level, but it's highly doubtful.
I don't think I even saw him play last year, but I watched a couple Tennessee games in 2004 (including the SEC championship vs. Auburn) and he seemed like a power guy with some speed.
 
Just name recognition. Nothing else to see here. Move along.
Yep, that's all there is to it. Only a 230lb RB who run a 4.6 and breaks tackles. There's probably no team in the NFL who would want a one-cut RB like that. :rolleyes:
Have you ever seen Riggs play?As a person who has seen nearly every game Riggs has played in, I can assure you he breaks less tackles than any 229 lb Ive ever seen.

He breaks less tackles than most 199 lb RBs Ive seen.

Gerald "Arm-Tackled" Riggs, Jr.
:yes: He is honestly one of the most underperforming-compared-to-his-measurables RBs I've ever seen. And I've been watching him because I own him (along with Maroney and Moore) in a league in which we can roster college players. He certainly could "step it up" at the next level, but it's highly doubtful.
I don't think I even saw him play last year, but I watched a couple Tennessee games in 2004 (including the SEC championship vs. Auburn) and he seemed like a power guy with some speed.
He did play pretty well in 2004, but he just sort of lost it last year. He did get injured at the end of the year, but there was no indication that he was playing through injuries all year. I think it might just be a case of not having enough drive and desire to improve himself enough to be a star in the NFL. That happens sometimes, especially to kids who probably had it easy before with playing time (Your dad is Gerald Riggs?) and money.

 
I like the question you're asking, but you should be asking it about Cedric Humes or De'Arrius Howard.
Humes' numbers were very disappointing - 4.73 40, 8'10" long jump and 30.5" vert. He wasn't bad in the short shuttle and 3 cone, but I think he'll have trouble in the NFL.I do like Howard's numbers, but it's usually not good when a senior loses his job to two freshmen. On top of that he only had one catch his entire college career.

Howard (5-10½, 229) was clocked in the 40 at 4.47 and 4.55. He had a 36-inch vertical jump, a 9-foot-11 broad jump, a 4.20 short shuttle, a 6.98 three-cone drill and 20 lifts.
 
Voted for Riggs out of sentimentality - once traded for his dad giving up the RIGHT to pick up Don Beebe the week after his 4-TD performance (I had first waiver pick). Riggs promptly scored like 10 TDs for me over the rest of the year. :thumbup:

-QG

 
I like the question you're asking, but you should be asking it about Cedric Humes or De'Arrius Howard.
Humes' numbers were very disappointing - 4.73 40, 8'10" long jump and 30.5" vert. He wasn't bad in the short shuttle and 3 cone, but I think he'll have trouble in the NFL.I do like Howard's numbers, but it's usually not good when a senior loses his job to two freshmen. On top of that he only had one catch his entire college career.

Howard (5-10½, 229) was clocked in the 40 at 4.47 and 4.55. He had a 36-inch vertical jump, a 9-foot-11 broad jump, a 4.20 short shuttle, a 6.98 three-cone drill and 20 lifts.
I personally like Humes. It's kindof like getting your first job. The company wants to see your transcript and GPA. After that first job though, nobody cares. Same thing in the NFL. What's his 40 time, how many reps on the bench? Tell me the last time you heard a 40 number for Jerome Bettis.The point is, I don't care if he runs a 4.8, if Humes can run between the tackles and pick up yards, he will play in the NFL.

 
Tell me the last time you heard a 40 number for Jerome Bettis.
I think Bettis ran 4.69 in college, for a point of reference.
:thumbup: Not much difference between 4.69 and 4.73. What will matter is if he can hit a hole in the NFL and break a tackle.

 
Just name recognition. Nothing else to see here. Move along.
Yep, that's all there is to it. Only a 230lb RB who run a 4.6 and breaks tackles. There's probably no team in the NFL who would want a one-cut RB like that. :rolleyes:
Have you ever seen Riggs play?As a person who has seen nearly every game Riggs has played in, I can assure you he breaks less tackles than any 229 lb Ive ever seen.

He breaks less tackles than most 199 lb RBs Ive seen.

Gerald "Arm-Tackled" Riggs, Jr.
:yes: He is honestly one of the most underperforming-compared-to-his-measurables RBs I've ever seen. And I've been watching him because I own him (along with Maroney and Moore) in a league in which we can roster college players. He certainly could "step it up" at the next level, but it's highly doubtful.
I don't think I even saw him play last year, but I watched a couple Tennessee games in 2004 (including the SEC championship vs. Auburn) and he seemed like a power guy with some speed.
Just to be clear here, you are then basis your opinion of him off of seeing him these couple times and his pro-day #s?Seriously, as objectively as I can possibly be here, he'll be lucky not to be an UDFA.

 
he'll be lucky not to be an UDFA.
not your point I know but after a certain late point in the draft I figure it'd be better to pick your team(to try out for) than get drafted.
 
he'll be lucky not to be an UDFA.
not your point I know but after a certain late point in the draft I figure it'd be better to pick your team(to try out for) than get drafted.
Agreed. A better way to put my statement would have been "he's unlikely to be high enough on any teams draft board to be drafted." Maybe the 'Skins will pick him up in the 7th just as a favor to his pappa. Riggs played under Gibbs, correct?

 
Just name recognition. Nothing else to see here. Move along.

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Yep, that's all there is to it. Only a 230lb RB who run a 4.6 and breaks tackles. There's probably no team in the NFL who would want a one-cut RB like that. :rolleyes:
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Have you ever seen Riggs play?As a person who has seen nearly every game Riggs has played in, I can assure you he breaks less tackles than any 229 lb Ive ever seen.

He breaks less tackles than most 199 lb RBs Ive seen.

Gerald "Arm-Tackled" Riggs, Jr.

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:yes: He is honestly one of the most underperforming-compared-to-his-measurables RBs I've ever seen. And I've been watching him because I own him (along with Maroney and Moore) in a league in which we can roster college players. He certainly could "step it up" at the next level, but it's highly doubtful.

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I don't think I even saw him play last year, but I watched a couple Tennessee games in 2004 (including the SEC championship vs. Auburn) and he seemed like a power guy with some speed.
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Just to be clear here, you are then basis your opinion of him off of seeing him these couple times and his pro-day #s?Seriously, as objectively as I can possibly be here, he'll be lucky not to be an UDFA.

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Just name recognition. Nothing else to see here. Move along.

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Yep, that's all there is to it. Only a 230lb RB who run a 4.6 and breaks tackles. There's probably no team in the NFL who would want a one-cut RB like that. :rolleyes:
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Have you ever seen Riggs play?As a person who has seen nearly every game Riggs has played in, I can assure you he breaks less tackles than any 229 lb Ive ever seen.

He breaks less tackles than most 199 lb RBs Ive seen.

Gerald "Arm-Tackled" Riggs, Jr.

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:yes: He is honestly one of the most underperforming-compared-to-his-measurables RBs I've ever seen. And I've been watching him because I own him (along with Maroney and Moore) in a league in which we can roster college players. He certainly could "step it up" at the next level, but it's highly doubtful.

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I don't think I even saw him play last year, but I watched a couple Tennessee games in 2004 (including the SEC championship vs. Auburn) and he seemed like a power guy with some speed.
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Just to be clear here, you are then basis your opinion of him off of seeing him these couple times and his pro-day #s?Seriously, as objectively as I can possibly be here, he'll be lucky not to be an UDFA.

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:goodposting:
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At least the Dolphins signed him. Can't win 'em all...
 

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