Getting more likely Sidney Rice heads to IR? (1 Viewer)

[gianmarco]

Week 6 has just finished. Rice is eligible to come off the PUP. However, if I'm not mistaken, they have 3 weeks to get him on the active roster or he goes to IR. This just came out 1 day ago:

(TheHuddle) Minnesota Vikings head coach Brad Childress said he does not think WR Sidney Rice (hip) will start running for a few more weeks, reports the Minneapolis Star Tribune's Judd Zulgad. Rice caught some passes off to the side during practice Friday, Oct. 15. Rice expects to find out in the next week or so when he will be able to do more activities.

If it's going to be a "few more weeks" until he's even running, are they going to put him on the active roster and burn the spot? For those hanging on to hope in redraft leagues, we may be getting close to cutting bait here.

 

[David Yudkin]

If the Vikings turn things around in the next few weeks, they could activate Rice and just keep him inactive on game days until he is ready. He would tie up a roster spot, but if the Vikings are in the hunt and they feel he can contribute later in the year they might consider giving him more time.

 

[FavreCo]

If the Vikings turn things around in the next few weeks, they could activate Rice and just keep him inactive on game days until he is ready. He would tie up a roster spot, but if the Vikings are in the hunt and they feel he can contribute later in the year they might consider giving him more time.

If it keeps Berrian on the sidelines, they should do it. That guy is worthless. Moss, Harvin, Rice on crutches is better than 100% berrian.

 

[buck naked]

If the Vikings turn things around in the next few weeks, they could activate Rice and just keep him inactive on game days until he is ready. He would tie up a roster spot, but if the Vikings are in the hunt and they feel he can contribute later in the year they might consider giving him more time.

I don't think they have to "turn it around", because they are in it and can easily win the division. GB has 3 losses already, and the Bears will finish .500 at best. Keeping him inactive seems the best idea.

 

[NatronIsMean]

If the Vikings turn things around in the next few weeks, they could activate Rice and just keep him inactive on game days until he is ready. He would tie up a roster spot, but if the Vikings are in the hunt and they feel he can contribute later in the year they might consider giving him more time.

I don't think they have to "turn it around", because they are in it and can easily win the division. GB has 3 losses already, and the Bears will finish .500 at best. Keeping him inactive seems the best idea.

Active, yes. Productive in time to be meaningful in fantasy? Tough to imagine for me. I own him in both of my leagues but I don't know if it's worth it after the news of late. The allure of Sidney's 2009 numbers keeps me hanging on but those numbers are history. I really want to drop him for other guys, but I just keep hanging on...

 

[Warhogs]

I don't have a link but I thought I heard he was doing a little running on Friday? I'm sure someone has some information. I am sure he is several weeks from playing yet but if the Vikings are still in the playoff race when a decision has to be made I would think they would keep him active if they felt he had a chance to be ready come post season.

 

[Hoosier16]

I don't have a link but I thought I heard he was doing a little running on Friday? I'm sure someone has some information. I am sure he is several weeks from playing yet but if the Vikings are still in the playoff race when a decision has to be made I would think they would keep him active if they felt he had a chance to be ready come post season.

Rotowire was reporting he was jogging but the original article described it more as a very, very slow jog.http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_16348213?nclick_check=1

 

[Tigerbot Hesh]

If it keeps Berrian on the sidelines, they should do it. That guy is worthless. Moss, Harvin, Rice on crutches is better than 100% berrian.

 

[tietzjd]

I don't have a link but I thought I heard he was doing a little running on Friday? I'm sure someone has some information. I am sure he is several weeks from playing yet but if the Vikings are still in the playoff race when a decision has to be made I would think they would keep him active if they felt he had a chance to be ready come post season.

Rotowire was reporting he was jogging but the original article described it more as a very, very slow jog.http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_16348213?nclick_check=1

I still see week 10 return and if vikings can get to 4-4, I think they are in good shape. Just the presence of Rice will change how defense prepares. As for vikings as whole, sign Moss, sign Rice beef up the line and find QB. (Mcnabb, Orton... etc) and they can have great 5 year run.

Rice, Harvin, Moss, BB, Shinco and Peterson is lot great weapons. As Scary as sounds I wonder if T-jack might do ok with this type team... buy a little bit of time and boom, someone will be open. Now if he can hit the WR/TE is an differnt story.

 

[David Yudkin]

If the Vikings turn things around in the next few weeks, they could activate Rice and just keep him inactive on game days until he is ready. He would tie up a roster spot, but if the Vikings are in the hunt and they feel he can contribute later in the year they might consider giving him more time.

I don't think they have to "turn it around", because they are in it and can easily win the division. GB has 3 losses already, and the Bears will finish .500 at best. Keeping him inactive seems the best idea.

The Vikings play @ GB and @ NE in their next two games. If they lose both of those, they would be 2-5 and in danger of falling out of the race.

 

[snogger]

If the Vikings turn things around in the next few weeks, they could activate Rice and just keep him inactive on game days until he is ready. He would tie up a roster spot, but if the Vikings are in the hunt and they feel he can contribute later in the year they might consider giving him more time.

If it keeps Berrian on the sidelines, they should do it. That guy is worthless. Moss, Harvin, Rice on crutches is better than 100% berrian.

Rice being injured is the only way I can reason that they keep this bum on the team. Hell, they don't even trust him to return punts anymore. Release the bum.. let someone else deal with 6 catches in 5 games.

 

[TommyGilmore]

If he goes on IR, would he be eligible for the playoffs?

 

[David Yudkin]

If he goes on IR, would he be eligible for the playoffs?

No. Done for the season.

 

[CrossEyed]

So what's the latest on Rice? With the season pretty much over will they just shut him down?

 

[Stryker]

So what's the latest on Rice? With the season pretty much over will they just shut him down?

Pretty much over?

 

[Faust]

Childress: Rice 'might be about 3 weeks' away

News Type: Event — Seeded on Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:48 AM EDT

Article Source: NBC Sports

Coach Brad Childress indicated over the weekend that Sidney Rice "might be about three weeks" away from returning.

 

[Stryker]

So Favre injures his ankle, doctor suggests 3 weeks rest. Rice about 3 weeks away. Oh, we play Green Bay in 4 weeks...hmmmm

 

[CrossEyed]

So what's the latest on Rice? With the season pretty much over will they just shut him down?

Pretty much over?

I meant the Viking chances, not the season itself.Then again, looking at the NFC North, I guess they do still have a chance.

 

[CrossEyed]

Childress: Rice 'might be about 3 weeks' away

News Type: Event — Seeded on Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:48 AM EDT

Article Source: NBC Sports

Coach Brad Childress indicated over the weekend that Sidney Rice "might be about three weeks" away from returning.

Has anybody gotten clarification on what he meant. 3 weeks from practicing, or 3 weeks from playing?

 

[dagwood]

So what's the latest on Rice? With the season pretty much over will they just shut him down?

Pretty much over?

I meant the Viking chances, not the season itself.Then again, looking at the NFC North, I guess they do still have a chance.

Who won the NFC North?

 

[sho nuff]

Childress: Rice 'might be about 3 weeks' away

News Type: Event — Seeded on Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:48 AM EDT

Article Source: NBC Sports

Coach Brad Childress indicated over the weekend that Sidney Rice "might be about three weeks" away from returning.

Has anybody gotten clarification on what he meant. 3 weeks from practicing, or 3 weeks from playing?

Not sure...because he "might" be "about" three weeks away.Can he be more vague?

Of course, was this in between him whining about refs and now idiotically poking Belichick?

 

[Tigerbot Hesh]

Wasn't he 'about' three weeks away last week?

 

[Faust]

Sidney Rice progresses to 'football activity'

Sidney Rice - WR - Minnesota Vikings

Today - 4:25 PM ET

Sidney Rice (PUP, hip) was able to run at half-speed and catch passes on the side of Vikings practice Wednesday.

He was working with Vikings WRs coach George Stewart. It's the first "football activity" Rice has done since undergoing hip surgery in August. "Slowly but surely" is how beat writer Tom Pelissero described Rice's progress. He's still unlikely to play before Week 10 or so, but a late-season return is at least looking possible. Rice has yet to be activated from PUP.

Source: Jeremy Fowler on Twitter

 

[finito]

Wow, that's pretty encouraging actually.

 

[CrossEyed]

Wow, that's pretty encouraging actually.

Just grabbed him off the ww this week. I'll take a week 10 return.

 

[FFdork]

IDK. He's running at half speed and catching passes on the side in week 7.

Not to be Debbie Downer, but: How long before he can practice normally? How long from then before he's in game shape? How long before he can develop timing with the QB? Will his QB be Brett Favre or Tavaris Jackson? What are his targets like with Randy Moss, Percy Harvin, Shiancoe, and Adrian Peterson all getting their share too?

I'd definitely stash him on a deeper roster, but it seems like people in those leagues would have held in the first place. He has the talent, but his situation is pretty shaky. I think there are better lottery tickets to hold on smaller rosters.

 

[Sweetness_34]

After the Patriots destroy the Vikings this weekend, there will be no reason to activate Rice. Season over at 2-5.

 

[Hear-the-Footsteps]

People starting to stash this guy? Or not using the roster spot on someone who may not come back solid?

 

[Clifford]

IDK. He's running at half speed and catching passes on the side in week 7.

Not to be Debbie Downer, but: How long before he can practice normally? How long from then before he's in game shape? How long before he can develop timing with the QB? Will his QB be Brett Favre or Tavaris Jackson? What are his targets like with Randy Moss, Percy Harvin, Shiancoe, and Adrian Peterson all getting their share too?

I'd definitely stash him on a deeper roster, but it seems like people in those leagues would have held in the first place. He has the talent, but his situation is pretty shaky. I think there are better lottery tickets to hold on smaller rosters.

Just picked this guy up. I think the Moss trade does limit his value somewhat, but I still think he could be a great WR3 if he can get healthy. With a prognosis of returning in two weeks it's hard to see the downside of stashing him for a couple of weeks and seeing what happens. I personally think week 10 sounds a little early, but that is consistent with what the original prognosis said.

 

[Clifford]

After the Patriots destroy the Vikings this weekend, there will be no reason to activate Rice. Season over at 2-5.

I'll go ahead and pencil in the Vikes for a win and Rice starting week 10 then.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

I posted this at the start of the season and doubt much has really changed.

Rice, meanwhile, said on his Twitter account Tuesday that he had a "great pool workout" with fellow hip-surgery patient Jonny Flynn, the point guard for the Minnesota Timberwolves. Flynn had his procedure done six weeks ago and is expected to need another two or three months to recover.

If Jonny Flynn needs 3.5-5 months to recover from this, how is Rice supposed to do it in less time? Rice had the surgery in the last week of August. Meaning the absolute earliest he could be back would be week 12, with week 14 more likely.

 

[snogger]

After the Patriots destroy the Vikings this weekend, there will be no reason to activate Rice. Season over at 2-5.

In the crappy NFC North??? at worst they will be 2 1/2 games out.. More than likely 1 1/2 still with a schedule that is very favorable..

 

[Clifford]

I posted this at the start of the season and doubt much has really changed.

Rice, meanwhile, said on his Twitter account Tuesday that he had a "great pool workout" with fellow hip-surgery patient Jonny Flynn, the point guard for the Minnesota Timberwolves. Flynn had his procedure done six weeks ago and is expected to need another two or three months to recover.

If Jonny Flynn needs 3.5-5 months to recover from this, how is Rice supposed to do it in less time? Rice had the surgery in the last week of August. Meaning the absolute earliest he could be back would be week 12, with week 14 more likely.

Basketball players are whiny losers. Football players are tough. Quit telling me what I don't want to hear.

 

[CrossEyed]

I posted this at the start of the season and doubt much has really changed.

Rice, meanwhile, said on his Twitter account Tuesday that he had a "great pool workout" with fellow hip-surgery patient Jonny Flynn, the point guard for the Minnesota Timberwolves. Flynn had his procedure done six weeks ago and is expected to need another two or three months to recover.

If Jonny Flynn needs 3.5-5 months to recover from this, how is Rice supposed to do it in less time? Rice had the surgery in the last week of August. Meaning the absolute earliest he could be back would be week 12, with week 14 more likely.

1) Not all hip surgeries are the same2) Not all patients recover at the same pace

 

[FFdork]

Stranger things have happened, but I'm having a hard time seeing a scenario where Rice comes back to put up huge numbers during the fantasy season. The Vikings are a total soap opera right now, and there are too many mouths to feed on an offense that isn't exactly clicking on all cylinders.

The only path I see back to elite WR status for this year is a healthy Rice + a healthy Favre + better o-line play + an injury to Moss. That's kind of a lot to hope for at this point. He could certainly come back and contribute to a fantasy team, especially in larger leagues, but even that still seems far from assured.

It would be nice to get something concrete about his recovery timetable (which we probably never will with Childress/the Vikings). Until I hear that he's running at full speed and making hard, crisp cuts on routes, I have to assume he's still weeks away from getting into game shape let alone getting into a game.

 

[Clifford]

Moss, for the better part of two years now, has been more of a decoy than anything else. I think there is room on this team for another productive receiver. They only had about 90 yards between Harvin and Moss last game. I could be wrong but if you have a spot at the end of your bench he' as good a lottery ticket as anything out there. If he's not on the field in three weeks then drop him.

 

[CrossEyed]

Stranger things have happened, but I'm having a hard time seeing a scenario where Rice comes back to put up huge numbers during the fantasy season. The Vikings are a total soap opera right now, and there are too many mouths to feed on an offense that isn't exactly clicking on all cylinders.

The only path I see back to elite WR status for this year is a healthy Rice + a healthy Favre + better o-line play + an injury to Moss. That's kind of a lot to hope for at this point. He could certainly come back and contribute to a fantasy team, especially in larger leagues, but even that still seems far from assured.

It would be nice to get something concrete about his recovery timetable (which we probably never will with Childress/the Vikings). Until I hear that he's running at full speed and making hard, crisp cuts on routes, I have to assume he's still weeks away from getting into game shape let alone getting into a game.

I'd settle for WR2 numbers for the last few games of the season from a guy I plucked off waivers for nothing.

 

[FFdork]

Agree that there's room for a healthy Rice in that offense--the other outside WR spot has been a dead zone whoever was playing there. As to whether he's as good a lottery ticket as anyone else, that completely depends on what else it out there in your league.

IMHO his ceiling is mid level WR2 in a 12 team league (unless there are injuries), but keep in mind the best case scenario means zero production for several more weeks. With bye weeks I'm hoping to hit home runs with the few guys I'm able to stash. Just so many ? in the Sid Rice situation for now. Guys in several of my leagues are pretty reactive instead of proactive so I bet I can hold off for a week or two as long as I'm conscientious about looking out for positive developments...the main stream league hosting sites are still currently treating him as an afterthought.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

I posted this at the start of the season and doubt much has really changed.

Rice, meanwhile, said on his Twitter account Tuesday that he had a "great pool workout" with fellow hip-surgery patient Jonny Flynn, the point guard for the Minnesota Timberwolves. Flynn had his procedure done six weeks ago and is expected to need another two or three months to recover.

If Jonny Flynn needs 3.5-5 months to recover from this, how is Rice supposed to do it in less time? Rice had the surgery in the last week of August. Meaning the absolute earliest he could be back would be week 12, with week 14 more likely.

1) Not all hip surgeries are the same2) Not all patients recover at the same pace

I don't doubt that for a second. Its entirely possible Flynn may need the maximum amount of that time and Rice the minimum. The inverse could be true as well.

Even at the minimum projection for recovery, which is 14 weeks, Rice would come back in week 13. Add in the fact there is Moss, Harvin, Shiancoe and ADP already in place, and I think there's much better lottery tickets out there.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

I posted this at the start of the season and doubt much has really changed.

Rice, meanwhile, said on his Twitter account Tuesday that he had a "great pool workout" with fellow hip-surgery patient Jonny Flynn, the point guard for the Minnesota Timberwolves. Flynn had his procedure done six weeks ago and is expected to need another two or three months to recover.

If Jonny Flynn needs 3.5-5 months to recover from this, how is Rice supposed to do it in less time? Rice had the surgery in the last week of August. Meaning the absolute earliest he could be back would be week 12, with week 14 more likely.

1) Not all hip surgeries are the same2) Not all patients recover at the same pace

I don't doubt that for a second. Its entirely possible Flynn may need the maximum amount of that time and Rice the minimum. The inverse could be true as well.

Even at the minimum projection for recovery, which is 14 weeks, Rice would come back in week 13. Add in the fact there is Moss, Harvin, Shiancoe and ADP already in place, and I think there's much better lottery tickets out there.

Keep in mind Flynn had his surgery six weeks before Rice did.

From CBS Sportsline:

Flynn could return in mid-November: Timberwolves PG Jonny Flynn, who is working his way back from offseason hip surgery, has been cleared for limited practice, according to NBA.com. He'll be able to practice in full early next week. The Minneapolis Tribune reports that he could be back playing games in mid to late November. Luke Ridnour will continue to start in his absence.

(Updated 10/26/2010)

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I posted this at the start of the season and doubt much has really changed.

Rice, meanwhile, said on his Twitter account Tuesday that he had a "great pool workout" with fellow hip-surgery patient Jonny Flynn, the point guard for the Minnesota Timberwolves. Flynn had his procedure done six weeks ago and is expected to need another two or three months to recover.

If Jonny Flynn needs 3.5-5 months to recover from this, how is Rice supposed to do it in less time? Rice had the surgery in the last week of August. Meaning the absolute earliest he could be back would be week 12, with week 14 more likely.

1) Not all hip surgeries are the same2) Not all patients recover at the same pace

While that's true, generally doctors don't know ahead of time which patients recover faster.

 

[Clifford]

Seriously you must not be familiar with the NBA. Guys sit out for weeks with a #######g hangnail. NBA players generally take forever to get back on the court. Plus what is the hurry? It's not like any games before January really matter anyway. At least the players don't seem to think they do.

 

[Bri]

I don't have a link but I thought I heard he was doing a little running on Friday? I'm sure someone has some information. I am sure he is several weeks from playing yet but if the Vikings are still in the playoff race when a decision has to be made I would think they would keep him active if they felt he had a chance to be ready come post season.

Your sig is enormous

 

[Bri]

Pretty sure they told Favre what he wanted to hear and we're the victims here

 

[tietzjd]

More intruged by what this might mean on the field, how does this help the vikings. Would rice alone open things up for Randy and even open up things more for Harvin and others. Even if he is not 100%?

With the soft schudle after this week, this team could flip it's recored with Rice. (2-5 1st 7 games and 7-2) rest of the way. Of course theh have stop truning the ball over.

Would 9-7 in NFC be enough to get in......

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

There's more info on Jonny Flynn in here than Sidney Rice.

Rice had his surgery August 23rd, and they said it would be 8 weeks before he could do anything. Well, now he's doing some things. Unless there is word of a setback, he appears to be on schedule.

Speculating, but it looks like it's pointing toward Chicago Week 10 or Green Bay Week 11 for a return.

Will he produce? Hard to say. Some variables not in Rice's control are the team's record and the status of the QB.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Rice had his surgery August 23rd, and they said it would be 8 weeks before he could do anything. Well, now he's doing some things. Unless there is word of a setback, he appears to be on schedule.

Speculating, but it looks like it's pointing toward Chicago Week 10 or Green Bay Week 11 for a return.

On what do you base this speculation?

 

[FFdork]

Vikings wide receiver Sidney Rice was on the field after practice Wednesday catching some passes from position coach George Stewart but Thursday he made it clear that in no way qualified as route running.

“I was jogging around,” said Rice, who underwent hip surgery in August. “I wasn’t doing routes.”

The Vikings have until Nov. 9 to bring Rice off the physically-unable-to-perform list and at this point Rice said the next step is up to the trainers. He also isn’t willing to put any date on his potential return.

“I think it’s going great right now,” he said of his rehab. “I’m going to continue to do what they ask me to do and I’m just working to get better and get out on the field.

Link to the story. Zulgad is one of the main Vikings beat reporters for the local paper. This is in the FBGs news blog. Whoever did the FBGs comment on the story advises dropping him, so clearly he/they viewed this as a negative. Draw your own conclusions.

 

[Mark Wimer]

Vikings wide receiver Sidney Rice was on the field after practice Wednesday catching some passes from position coach George Stewart but Thursday he made it clear that in no way qualified as route running.

“I was jogging around,” said Rice, who underwent hip surgery in August. “I wasn’t doing routes.”

The Vikings have until Nov. 9 to bring Rice off the physically-unable-to-perform list and at this point Rice said the next step is up to the trainers. He also isn’t willing to put any date on his potential return.

“I think it’s going great right now,” he said of his rehab. “I’m going to continue to do what they ask me to do and I’m just working to get better and get out on the field.

Link to the story. Zulgad is one of the main Vikings beat reporters for the local paper. This is in the FBGs news blog. Whoever did the FBGs comment on the story advises dropping him, so clearly he/they viewed this as a negative. Draw your own conclusions.

It seems to me that Rice is being brought along very cautiously by the team, so in my opinion the damage in that hip may have been worse than expected. Rice was supposedly trying to do without surgery, and then as soon as Favre signed he went under the knife. Again, this is only my opinion, but it appears to me that Childress and company kept hope alive that Rice could play this year while courting Favre to sign for 2010 - as soon as that was accomplished, they proceeded with the surgery that was necessary all the while. In short, I don't trust the Vikings to accurately report on this rehab. They covered up the necessity for the surgery to get Favre signed, and now they're having to live with that series of "truth shadings" before putting Rice on I.R. due to an "unforeseen setback".

Just one man's view of the situation, but I'd truly be shocked to see Rice on the field this year at all.

 

[Clifford]

Vikings wide receiver Sidney Rice was on the field after practice Wednesday catching some passes from position coach George Stewart but Thursday he made it clear that in no way qualified as route running.

“I was jogging around,” said Rice, who underwent hip surgery in August. “I wasn’t doing routes.”

The Vikings have until Nov. 9 to bring Rice off the physically-unable-to-perform list and at this point Rice said the next step is up to the trainers. He also isn’t willing to put any date on his potential return.

“I think it’s going great right now,” he said of his rehab. “I’m going to continue to do what they ask me to do and I’m just working to get better and get out on the field.

Link to the story. Zulgad is one of the main Vikings beat reporters for the local paper. This is in the FBGs news blog. Whoever did the FBGs comment on the story advises dropping him, so clearly he/they viewed this as a negative. Draw your own conclusions.

It seems to me that Rice is being brought along very cautiously by the team, so in my opinion the damage in that hip may have been worse than expected. Rice was supposedly trying to do without surgery, and then as soon as Favre signed he went under the knife. Again, this is only my opinion, but it appears to me that Childress and company kept hope alive that Rice could play this year while courting Favre to sign for 2010 - as soon as that was accomplished, they proceeded with the surgery that was necessary all the while. In short, I don't trust the Vikings to accurately report on this rehab. They covered up the necessity for the surgery to get Favre signed, and now they're having to live with that series of "truth shadings" before putting Rice on I.R. due to an "unforeseen setback".

Just one man's view of the situation, but I'd truly be shocked to see Rice on the field this year at all.

To me this is a perfect example of when the staff need to put out an official FBG opinion on a player situation. If FBG were to put out an official "hold or drop" decision, I would follow it b/c I honestly have no idea. The info out there has been spotty and will likely continue to be.What say you Wimer, can you make this happen? I think it would be a HUGE welcome addition to subscriber content.