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Giants and Lavar Arrington Contract Thread (1 Viewer)

Koya

Footballguy
The Giants and former Redskins linebacker LaVar Arrington have reached an agreement in principle on a seven-year deal worth $49 million.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2417903

Of course, the years and total $$ mean nothing without knowing what is guaranteed... regardless, it looks like the Giants are going to be that much better next year. Very good offense and now a defense to match. Way to go Ernie!

 
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diesel7982

Footballguy
I wish I could buy stock in things like, "The Giants will horribly regret this deal after this season when Arrington has microfracture surgery".

Id be rich.

 

fatness

against the grain
The number of plays the Redskins will run during Giant games to Arrington's side of the field just went up. He won't be there some of the time.

I'm glad the Redskins dumped him, but still, he's a decent guy and very well-liked. I hope does well.

 

Koya

Footballguy
I wish I could buy stock in things like, "The Giants will horribly regret this deal after this season when Arrington has microfracture surgery".

Id be rich.
This is a known concern, and the Giants are usually pretty conservative in this respect. Additionally, they had Lavar come in for the physical before getting serious with the contract discussions this past week.What we really need to know is what the signing bonus is - it is possible the Giants are taking a calculated risk, thinking they can get 3-4 of those 7 years and then cut if necessary with a manageable cap hit.

 

thayman

Footballguy
Good for Lavar....I've always liked him......hope he has a pro bowl year........except for the two games he plays the Skins.....

 

ThisGuy

Ignored by Nipsey
Suddenly the Giants have depth in the one spot they sorely lacked last season!

I like this move a lot especially if the guaranteed $$ is under $15 million :thumbup:

 

Mik789fl

Footballguy
I think it's a good move by the Giants. They had a need at the position,he's a proven player and appears very motivated. Sure there's a health concern but given the potential upside I think it's worth the risk. Gotta like what the Giants have done the last few years,they've been very aggresive in attacking the needs of their team,last year on offense,this year on defense,if your a fan that's all you can ask for. Good for them and good luck to them this year.

 

cracKer

Shawn Culcasi
The number of plays the Redskins will run during Giant games to Arrington's side of the field just went up. He won't be there some of the time.

I'm glad the Redskins dumped him, but still, he's a decent guy and very well-liked. I hope does well.
The Giants should be a very good fit for Arrington. They have steady LBs in Emmons and Pierce, which could allow LA to freelance a little more than he may on another team. He'll be able to pin his ears back in Tim Lewis' system.
 

monk

Footballguy
The number of plays the Redskins will run during Giant games to Arrington's side of the field just went up. He won't be there some of the time.

I'm glad the Redskins dumped him, but still, he's a decent guy and very well-liked. I hope does well.
You'd better hope he's there cause if he's not Osi will be ...Choose your fate
 
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Los Gigantes

Footballguy
The number of plays the Redskins will run during Giant games to Arrington's side of the field just went up. He won't be there some of the time.

I'm glad the Redskins dumped him, but still, he's a decent guy and very well-liked. I hope does well.
The Giants should be a very good fit for Arrington. They have steady LBs in Emmons and Pierce, which could allow LA to freelance a little more than he may on another team. He'll be able to pin his ears back in Tim Lewis' system.
I expect them to draft a LB in round 1, and for emmons to be a June 1 cap casualty. He was never a great fit for their system.
 

cracKer

Shawn Culcasi
The number of plays the Redskins will run during Giant games to Arrington's side of the field just went up. He won't be there some of the time.

I'm glad the Redskins dumped him, but still, he's a decent guy and very well-liked. I hope does well.
The Giants should be a very good fit for Arrington. They have steady LBs in Emmons and Pierce, which could allow LA to freelance a little more than he may on another team. He'll be able to pin his ears back in Tim Lewis' system.
I expect them to draft a LB in round 1, and for emmons to be a June 1 cap casualty. He was never a great fit for their system.
Definitely a possibility with Torbor's experience on the strong side.
 
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Texasmouth

Footballguy
Horrible signing for all Dallas fans. I think Arrington goes in there and plays with a huge chip on his shoulder...... not good for Dallas fans.....

 

Balco

Footballguy
The number of plays the Redskins will run during Giant games to Arrington's side of the field just went up. He won't be there some of the time.

I'm glad the Redskins dumped him, but still, he's a decent guy and very well-liked. I hope does well.
You'd better hope he's there cause if he's not Osi will be ...Choose your fate
Huh? If Arrington is not there, it is usually because he is in the wrong gap. Arrington is one of the most undisciplined linebackers in the NFL. He is going to be a huge asset to the Giants as a blitzer, but he is going to cause that D to give up some huge plays when he is out of position, which is quite often.
 

Yenrub

Footballguy
I am happy with the signing. It addresses a need for the Giants and now they are not locked into taking a LB with thier 1st pick in the draft.

I still think there is a good chance they will still take a LB in the 1st but at least now they don't have to.

Who do you guys see the Giants taking in the 1st?

 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
I'm not a big Arrington fan, but with Strahan and Umenyiora at end and Pierce manning the middle, they should be able to allow for his freelancing and yet remain a fairly disciplined front seven.

 

Koya

Footballguy
I'm not a big Arrington fan, but with Strahan and Umenyiora at end and Pierce manning the middle, they should be able to allow for his freelancing and yet remain a fairly disciplined front seven.
Not to mention, Strahan, Osi, Pierce, Lavar and even Tuck provide for a LOT of athleticism. Add in Sam Mad and the Vcterah factor and this could be something to watch.11 mill I can live with since it appears to be a heavily incentivized contract.

 

DCThunder

Footballguy
So do the G-men "unretire" #56 so that Lavar can wear it and have the burden of being the next LT in NYC will fall squarely on his shoulders?

I can't wait until the first time he misses a tackle or assignment and the Post and Daily News and Mike & the Dog and everyone else in the 5 boroughs starts ripping on him. He got the absolute kid gloves treatment from the DC media and fans, (especially the brothers). He was never ripped in the Post or on TV the way other Redskins were (NO ONE mentioned that he missed the tackle on Alstott on the 2-point conversion against TB) and when he got benched last season for missing assignments and being a general dim bulb, the press was on his side and calling out Gibbs and Williams. That kind of treatment will end PDQ up in NYC.

So, good luck Big Blue fans, with Lavar you're going to need it.

 

Texasmouth

Footballguy
So do the G-men "unretire" #56 so that Lavar can wear it and have the burden of being the next LT in NYC will fall squarely on his shoulders?

I can't wait until the first time he misses a tackle or assignment and the Post and Daily News and Mike & the Dog and everyone else in the 5 boroughs starts ripping on him. He got the absolute kid gloves treatment from the DC media and fans, (especially the brothers). He was never ripped in the Post or on TV the way other Redskins were (NO ONE mentioned that he missed the tackle on Alstott on the 2-point conversion against TB) and when he got benched last season for missing assignments and being a general dim bulb, the press was on his side and calling out Gibbs and Williams. That kind of treatment will end PDQ up in NYC.

So, good luck Big Blue fans, with Lavar you're going to need it.
Bitter Redskins fan..... :yucky:
 

aussiehockeyfan

Footballguy
Great deal for the Giants. Apparently an incentive laden contract. With means almost no risk for the Giants. If he plays up to his form, than he'll be worth the $49 million. Linebacker corps was a problem for the Giants. Could push the Giants ahead in a tight NFC East?

 
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Texasmouth

Footballguy
Great deal for the Giants. Apparently an incentive laden contract. With means almost no risk for the Giants. If he plays up to his form, than he'll be worth the $49 million. Linebacker corps was a problem for the Giants. Could push the Giants ahead in a tight NFC East?
Even as a huge Dallas homer, I still see the Giants as the front runners, until proven otherwise, and that was before the Arrington signing. This division is so tight, I am more worried about each team beating up on each other....... :boxing:
 

Mik789fl

Footballguy
So do the G-men "unretire" #56 so that Lavar can wear it and have the burden of being the next LT in NYC will fall squarely on his shoulders?

I can't wait until the first time he misses a tackle or assignment and the Post and Daily News and Mike & the Dog and everyone else in the 5 boroughs starts ripping on him. He got the absolute kid gloves treatment from the DC media and fans, (especially the brothers). He was never ripped in the Post or on TV the way other Redskins were (NO ONE mentioned that he missed the tackle on Alstott on the 2-point conversion against TB) and when he got benched last season for missing assignments and being a general dim bulb, the press was on his side and calling out Gibbs and Williams. That kind of treatment will end PDQ up in NYC.

So, good luck Big Blue fans, with Lavar you're going to need it.
You don't think the NY media has attacked Manning and Burress and Strahan and Osi and,you get it. He's a big boy,he'll handle it. Can't wait for the first Redskins-Giants game this season.
 

MrPhoenix

Ron Paul Soldier
Big lights, big city. Perfect for LaVar, as he always seems to find himself in the spotlight. Him and Strahan will be entertaining mouthpieces for the defense.

 

fatness

against the grain
Huh? If Arrington is not there, it is usually because he is in the wrong gap. Arrington is one of the most undisciplined linebackers in the NFL. He is going to be a huge asset to the Giants as a blitzer, but he is going to cause that D to give up some huge plays when he is out of position, which is quite often.
We certainly saw plenty of that in Washington over the years. Arrington crashing in from the right side about to hit the QB, while the ballcarrier is passing him and headed for the open area he vacated.
 

Avery

Footballguy
From the linked article:

"Clayton reported. Arrington, who will get a $5.25 million signing bonus, will receive a base salary worth around $3.7 million a year. With reachable incentives, Arrington can make $5 million a year and with maximum performance, he can take the deal to $49 million if he completes the seven years of his contract."

A small $5.25 million signing bous and $3.7 million a year base is an oustanding deal for the Giants. The "full value" of the contract is heavily based on incentives so if Arrington doesn't produce on the field, he doesn't get a paid a good portion of his potential contract.

Great job by the Giants front office.

 
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ThisGuy

Ignored by Nipsey
I'm not a big Arrington fan, but with Strahan and Umenyiora at end and Pierce manning the middle, they should be able to allow for his freelancing and yet remain a fairly disciplined front seven.
:goodposting: Tim Lewis dropped Osi and Strahan back a lot last year. This gives the G-Men another weapon the the edge. The contract seems like a very good deal for both sides. He plays to his potential, the Giants have to pay him.

 

Boone22

Footballguy
Here's the deal...

Giants | More on Arrington deal

Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:21:36 -0700

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports agent Kevin Poston didn't say how much was guaranteed in LB LaVar Arrington's contract, but New York Giants general manager Ernie Accorsi indicated that it includes performance bonuses. To get the $7 million-per-year, Arrington and the Giants agreed to load the deal with incentives. Arrington, who will get a $5.25 million signing bonus, will receive a base salary worth around $3.7 million a year. With reachable incentives, Arrington can make $5 million a year and with maximum performance, he can take the deal to $49 million if he completes the seven years of his contract.

 

Yenrub

Footballguy
Here's the deal...

Giants | More on Arrington deal

Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:21:36 -0700

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports agent Kevin Poston didn't say how much was guaranteed in LB LaVar Arrington's contract, but New York Giants general manager Ernie Accorsi indicated that it includes performance bonuses. To get the $7 million-per-year, Arrington and the Giants agreed to load the deal with incentives. Arrington, who will get a $5.25 million signing bonus, will receive a base salary worth around $3.7 million a year. With reachable incentives, Arrington can make $5 million a year and with maximum performance, he can take the deal to $49 million if he completes the seven years of his contract.
That's a pretty cheap signing bonus, especially compared to what he was asking for.
 

Jason Wood

Zoo York
This is the 2nd offseason in a row the Giants have held steady on a premier free agent and landed him on their own terms. Burress came to NY two or three times and left without a deal until signing late last season for a below market deal. Arrington didn't get below market per se, but the Giants certainly let him come to terms with his market value before locking him up.

 

Bri

Footballguy
The number of plays the Redskins will run during Giant games to Arrington's side of the field just went up. He won't be there some of the time.

I'm glad the Redskins dumped him, but still, he's a decent guy and very well-liked. I hope does well.
Is that Osi's or Strahan's side :boxing:
 
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trader jake

Guest
considering lavar coughed up over $4 mil to get out of his redskin contract...$5.25 in bonus money (+3.7 in base) seems like a reasonable deal

with the players already in place on that defense arrington should find his freewheeling mistakes less apparent and his big play ability will show more that it has in the past few seasons

 

yetiknight

Footballguy
As a Giants fan, I have come to terms with what I thought was a horrible trade for Eli. It is becoming evident that management was fully prepared to build around him(smartly) through free agency. There have been no bad deals. They have methodically filled holes in their lineup with very good prospects.

Who knows what would have been if they had just taken Ben and built around him this way.

 

Bri

Footballguy
LOL, according to ProFootballTalk.com, Arrington's contract is a joke, and all the numbers floated by the agents are inflated. You can go read the story there, but the funniest thing is this:

ROFTLMAO @ Arrington picture last night!!!
I don't know what PFT said here's info from BBI:Giants Officially Sign LB LaVar Arrington: The Giants have officially announced that they have signed unrestricted free agent LB LaVar Arrington, who was waived by the Redskins in early March. The contract is a 7-year, $49 million deal that includes a $5.25 million signing bonus. However, the $49 million figure is a bit misleading. Arrington's base salary will be approximately $3.7 million per season with reachable incentives that could pay Arrington $5 million per season. According to The Star-Ledger, a person familiar with the deal said that Arrington could not earn more than $5 million per season. The Ledger also says the total value of the contract will be determined by how many roster bonuses and incentives are triggered. The New York Post reports that the roster bonuses in future years can only be triggered if Arrington achieves certain honors such as Pro Bowls and MVP awards. Newsday said that if Arrington does not play well, the deal may ultimately prove to be a 1-year, $9 million contract.

Also BTW he's #55

 

Slinger

Footballguy
Who knows what would have been if they had just taken Ben and built around him this way.
The Steelers immediately had a better supporting cast than the Giants, so when all is said and done, people will look back and say Eli >>> Ben.
 

BigRed

Footballguy
If Arrington is not there, it is usually because he is in the wrong gap. Arrington is one of the most undisciplined linebackers in the NFL. He is going to be a huge asset to the Giants as a blitzer, but he is going to cause that D to give up some huge plays when he is out of position, which is quite often.
Finally somebody gets it.They should experiment with him playing the "hero" position a la PSU (basically a "floating" LB). His strength is his athleticism, not his smarts/discipline. Given more freedom to "roam" might be (I say might be) better then expecting him to actually do what he's supposed to do.

 

BlueOnion

Footballguy
Happy for Lavar. It should be noted (from reading the NY paper this morning) that the guaranteed money is about 5 to 6 million, which is not a lot for a 7 year contract. This contract gives a lot of future leverage to the NY Giants.

In two years, I don't want to hear about how Lavar has a 'crappy' contract when it was his actions that put him in this situation and he who signed this contract.

 

BigRed

Footballguy
In two years, I don't want to hear about how Lavar has a 'crappy' contract when it was his actions that put him in this situation and he who signed this contract.
[gene upshaw] :angry: That has nothing to do with it. Stop endorsing oppression of the playahs. They should be allowed to do pretty much whatever they want. [/gene upshaw]
 

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