Giants / Eagles front-runners to get Boldin? (1 Viewer)

[Hoss_Cartwright]

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Report: Eagles, Jints favorites to get Boldin

ESPN's John Clayton calls the Eagles and the Giants the front-runners to acquire Anquan Boldin via offseason trade.

Philadelphia is reportedly the current favorite. Clayton believes Boldin's trade demand will be met, which would be big news for Steve Breaston dynasty owners. The compensation is expected to be a first- and third-round pick. Philly has two first-rounders

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I wouldn't count out Baltimore

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I wouldn't count out Baltimore

Considering their cap issues, I would.They'll likely draft a WR on Day 1.

 

[Smeagol]

If I'm Arizona, I try to trade him to the AFC. Trading him to either of those teams will just make it harder for them to get back to the Super Bowl.

 

[FUBAR]

Titans!

Sorry, had to say it.

 

[GECKO]

If I'm Arizona, I try to trade him to the AFC. Trading him to either of those teams will just make it harder for them to get back to the Super Bowl.

That's what I was thinking, and I do like the Titans as well.

 

[Avery]

Headlines Report: Eagles, Jints favorites to get Boldin ESPN's John Clayton calls the Eagles and the Giants the front-runners to acquire Anquan Boldin via offseason trade.Philadelphia is reportedly the current favorite. Clayton believes Boldin's trade demand will be met, which would be big news for Steve Breaston dynasty owners. The compensation is expected to be a first- and third-round pick. Philly has two first-rounders

Since the Eagles have two picks before the Giants pick in the first round the only way the Giants could offer a better offer would be if they offered better additional compensation beyond the first round pick.The only way I see Boldin having and juice to determine his destination is if the trading teams wants a contract extension in place.

 

[Yenrub]

Watch after all this hype Boldin will probably end up staying in Arizona

 

[Kleck]

Anquan Boldin, WR ARI

News: According to a radio report credited by the official team Web site, Cardinals WR Anquan Boldin has instructed his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, to not agree to any new contract with the club. Boldin will ask for a trade out of Arizona this offseason and will go through the same motions he did last offseason when the club didn't meet his contractual wishes. He recently told USA Today that because he feels the organization lied to him about a new contract, he won't stay with the team. "I don't think the relationship can be repaired with the organization," Boldin said. "It takes more than, 'Well, we did you wrong and we'll pay you this.' It's not about the money. It was always about the principle. Guys being true to their word. I guess I was expected to uphold my end of the bargain, and it wasn't reciprocated."

 

[None_More_Black]

Anquan Boldin, WR ARI

News: According to a radio report credited by the official team Web site, Cardinals WR Anquan Boldin has instructed his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, to not agree to any new contract with the club. Boldin will ask for a trade out of Arizona this offseason and will go through the same motions he did last offseason when the club didn't meet his contractual wishes. He recently told USA Today that because he feels the organization lied to him about a new contract, he won't stay with the team. "I don't think the relationship can be repaired with the organization," Boldin said. "It takes more than, 'Well, we did you wrong and we'll pay you this.' It's not about the money. It was always about the principle. Guys being true to their word. I guess I was expected to uphold my end of the bargain, and it wasn't reciprocated."

Philly fans would go nuts for a player like Boldin and I expect the Eagles to do everything within reason to get him. F the Bidwells.

 

[sib]

Watch after all this hype Boldin will probably end up staying in Arizona

Agreed. Unless they get a really good offer (minimum 1st and a 3rd) I don't see them dealing the guy. He's a great player and under contract; no real incentive not to keep him unless someone blows them away with a great offer.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

The last time McNabb had a quality receiver, good things happened. I would think the Giants would want to step up and avoid that happening, but I'd say with their extra 1st Philly has to be the front-runner.

Maybe the other bidding loser consoles itself with Housh?

By the way, I think this is just part of a slow bleed for the Cards. Lost both coordinators, probably losing Boldin, likely cutting James, Warner might retire... hope their fans enjoyed their playoff run.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Thing is I can't see the Eagles giving up two high picks for Boldin if they can get Housh for "free" (ie, only paying him).

It's a weird balance, they will gladly trade a 1st because they don't want to pay two 1st rounders 1st round money. But they can't give up a 3rd because they need to replace old players with low cost potential.

 

[JuniorNB]

The last time McNabb had a quality receiver, good things happened.

The last time the Eagles had a moody, selfish receiver who screamed at his offensive coordinator, bad things happened. Really, really bad things.Please go for Housh, Birds.

 

[rabidfireweasel]

Thing is I can't see the Eagles giving up two high picks for Boldin if they can get Housh for "free" (ie, only paying him). It's a weird balance, they will gladly trade a 1st because they don't want to pay two 1st rounders 1st round money. But they can't give up a 3rd because they need to replace old players with low cost potential.

Two first round picks in the twenties don't cost much at all. In fact, many teams feel like the late first is the talent/payday sweet spot in the draft. You still get one of the top 25 players in the country, but you are only looking at a sub-# million a year contract. It also decreases a bit it the late 20's.Last year's pick 21: Atl Sam Baker:7/25/2008: Signed a five-year, $13 million contract. The deal includes $8 million guaranteed. 2009: $385,000, 2010: $698,750, 2011: $1.0125 million, 2012: $1.32625 million, 2013: Free AgentLast year's pick 28 Seattle: Lawrence Jackson:5 years, 11.25 million, 6.1 guaranteed.These players really count very little against the cap.

 

[identikit]

The last time McNabb had a quality receiver, good things happened.

The last time the Eagles had a moody, selfish receiver who screamed at his offensive coordinator, bad things happened. Really, really bad things.Please go for Housh, Birds.

May be just me, but I don't see Boldin as anywhere close to TO, maintenance-wise.The Bidwell effect better explains Boldin's mindset.TO is just bat**** crazy IMO.

 

[Chunky Soup]

The last time McNabb had a quality receiver, good things happened.

The last time the Eagles had a moody, selfish receiver who screamed at his offensive coordinator, bad things happened. Really, really bad things.Please go for Housh, Birds.

May be just me, but I don't see Boldin as anywhere close to TO, maintenance-wise.The Bidwell effect better explains Boldin's mindset.TO is just bat**** crazy IMO.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Headlines Report: Eagles, Jints favorites to get Boldin ESPN's John Clayton calls the Eagles and the Giants the front-runners to acquire Anquan Boldin via offseason trade.Philadelphia is reportedly the current favorite. Clayton believes Boldin's trade demand will be met, which would be big news for Steve Breaston dynasty owners. The compensation is expected to be a first- and third-round pick. Philly has two first-rounders

I always wondered how anyone could be declared a "front runner" when it comes to trade situations. Obviously those two teams make a ton of sense from the perepective that they need him, but would the Cardinals really be interested in making two playoff teams even stronger? I think this is just Clayton filling time.

 

[Phurfur]

May be just me, but I don't see Boldin as anywhere close to TO, maintenance-wise.

The Bidwell effect better explains Boldin's mindset.

TO is just bat**** crazy IMO.

I think it is the Drew Rosenhaus effect. Boldin has been a different person since he signed up with him. I don't believe the Bidwells promised Boldin anything. The guy had 3 years left on a contract when he started complaining. This is classic DR.

 

[Phurfur]

Headlines Report: Eagles, Jints favorites to get Boldin ESPN's John Clayton calls the Eagles and the Giants the front-runners to acquire Anquan Boldin via offseason trade.Philadelphia is reportedly the current favorite. Clayton believes Boldin's trade demand will be met, which would be big news for Steve Breaston dynasty owners. The compensation is expected to be a first- and third-round pick. Philly has two first-rounders

I always wondered how anyone could be declared a "front runner" when it comes to trade situations. Obviously those two teams make a ton of sense from the perepective that they need him, but would the Cardinals really be interested in making two playoff teams even stronger? I think this is just Clayton filling time.

ESPN is getting to be more like the National Inquirer every day.

 

[identikit]

May be just me, but I don't see Boldin as anywhere close to TO, maintenance-wise.

The Bidwell effect better explains Boldin's mindset.

TO is just bat**** crazy IMO.

I think it is the Drew Rosenhaus effect. Boldin has been a different person since he signed up with him. I don't believe the Bidwells promised Boldin anything. The guy had 3 years left on a contract when he started complaining. This is classic DR.

I forgot about Rosenhaus...uber-toolish

But I'm not letting Bidwell off the hook either.

The Cardinals' decades-long dismal record speaks volumes about their dysfunction.

With the both of them, this could get even bigger.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

The last time McNabb had a quality receiver, good things happened.

The last time the Eagles had a moody, selfish receiver who screamed at his offensive coordinator, bad things happened. Really, really bad things.Please go for Housh, Birds.

Even with the picks involved, I take Boldin in a heartbeat. My God, a WR corp of Boldin, DeSean and Curtis would be incredible.....

 

[stp-d]

Headlines Report: Eagles, Jints favorites to get Boldin ESPN's John Clayton calls the Eagles and the Giants the front-runners to acquire Anquan Boldin via offseason trade.Philadelphia is reportedly the current favorite. Clayton believes Boldin's trade demand will be met, which would be big news for Steve Breaston dynasty owners. The compensation is expected to be a first- and third-round pick. Philly has two first-rounders

I would say there is a very low chance the Eagles sign him. It is entirely out of character for Reid to trade a 1st rounder for a skill player, OT, or DT maybe. Especially considering Boldin is 28+yrs old, i don't see Andy trading coveted draft picks for a WR when he has faith in his current squad of DeSean, Curtis...etc.If Boldin was a FA, it would be a different story, if we get a WR, it will be a FA or a 2nd rd pick.

 

[plastik]

The last time McNabb had a quality receiver, good things happened.

The last time the Eagles had a moody, selfish receiver who screamed at his offensive coordinator, bad things happened. Really, really bad things.Please go for Housh, Birds.

Even with the picks involved, I take Boldin in a heartbeat. My God, a WR corp of Boldin, DeSean and Curtis would be incredible.....

I agree. While Housh is a very good receiver, he wouldn't add another dimension to the WR corps like Boldin could. Boldin's physical game compliments the play of Desean and Curtis more than Housh's would.

 

[dparker713]

I doubt Philly would give up those picks. They need to replace alot on both sides of the ball and they've never seemed to place a high value on WRs. As for the Giants, I hope they're able to do this trade, but Im not sure they would. Remember, Accorsi was the one that traded for Eli, and since then Reese has been protecting his draft picks and using them very wisely. Also, while the Giants really need a WR to truly step up, they've been steadily investing in the WR corp over that past several years. About the only way I see this as a possibility is if they're able to recover the remaining signing bonus they gave Plax after the SB run.

 

[Ghost Rider]

While Housh is a very good receiver, he wouldn't add another dimension to the WR corps like Boldin could. Boldin's physical game compliments the play of Desean and Curtis more than Housh's would.

Neither Curtis nor Jackson is a true number 1 WR, and I am not so sure that Housh is, either. Boldin is. He would make the Eagles offense absolutely lethal.

 

[Otis]

Eli could really use a guy like Boldin...

 

[Captain Hook]

Almost EVERY team could use a WR as talented and a competitor/teammate as tough as Boldin.

(maybe Houston, New England, and Indianapolis would consider it too much of a luxury given what it would cost them, but Peyton with Wayne, Boldin and AGonz would be frightening)

I think the guys who mentioned the Titans are right on - clearly a team that needs to upgrade the receiving corps to give LBJ more room - and he would improve whomever is playing quarterback.

The REAL question is who will pony up the 1st and 3rd + to get Q - the Cardinals should get More than Dallas gave up for Roy Williams.

 

[Jason Wood]

Thing is I can't see the Eagles giving up two high picks for Boldin if they can get Housh for "free" (ie, only paying him). It's a weird balance, they will gladly trade a 1st because they don't want to pay two 1st rounders 1st round money. But they can't give up a 3rd because they need to replace old players with low cost potential.

There are three reasons that I can think of...1) Boldin is 3+ years younger2) Housh is a UFA, and there's no one close to him in the free agent pool at a time when the league is flush with cap room and has an uncapped year in 2010. To me, that means Housh is going to have suitors bidding against each other. Contractually, Boldin is a much easier situation to manage because once he's traded to the team, you are only negotiating against yourself3) Boldin is the better receiver

 

[kface]

I like boldin, he produces when he's out there, but the fact that he seems to get injured about once every 10 plays would make me nervous of giving up a 1st and a 3rd

 

[az_prof]

Watch after all this hype Boldin will probably end up staying in Arizona

You don't yell at your coach on national TV the way Boldin did and stay around too long. He is going somewhere. Plus the market demand for WRs is high since there is only one decent FA WR so the Cards will get decent return.

 

[eefflrat]

Thing is I can't see the Eagles giving up two high picks for Boldin if they can get Housh for "free" (ie, only paying him). It's a weird balance, they will gladly trade a 1st because they don't want to pay two 1st rounders 1st round money. But they can't give up a 3rd because they need to replace old players with low cost potential.

There are three reasons that I can think of...1) Boldin is 3+ years younger2) Housh is a UFA, and there's no one close to him in the free agent pool at a time when the league is flush with cap room and has an uncapped year in 2010. To me, that means Housh is going to have suitors bidding against each other. Contractually, Boldin is a much easier situation to manage because once he's traded to the team, you are only negotiating against yourself3) Boldin is the better receiver

I agree with 1 and 3...However when talking about your points in #2 you forget that boldin won't accept a trade to any team without redoing his contract....He wants to be paid..So truth is he is still going to demand a salary commesurate to his talent, and the team that trades for him will have to treat him as if he is on the open market by paying him quite handsomely...so in the end he will most likely cost more than housh salary wise, and compensation wise.

 

[Inspiration]

Watch after all this hype Boldin will probably end up staying in Arizona

You don't yell at your coach on national TV the way Boldin did and stay around too long. He is going somewhere. Plus the market demand for WRs is high since there is only one decent FA WR so the Cards will get decent return.

I have been hearing exactly the opposite. AZ management still considers Boldin to be a key part of the team and they know Boldin has no leverage. Not to mention they would like for Warner to come back, and without Boldin, his return is less likely. If Warner opts not to return I could see them trading Boldin, but if Kurt does in fact come back I find it hard to believe that the Cardinals would get rid of an elite player when they have all the leverage.

 

[CentralPA]

I like boldin, he produces when he's out there, but the fact that he seems to get injured about once every 10 plays would make me nervous of giving up a 1st and a 3rd

His face got caved in he came back to play in the next game, that's a guy I want on my team.

 

[Da Guru]

I like boldin, he produces when he's out there, but the fact that he seems to get injured about once every 10 plays would make me nervous of giving up a 1st and a 3rd

His face got caved in he came back to play in the next game, that's a guy I want on my team.

While playing with a caved face he tore his hammy.

 

[CentralPA]

I like boldin, he produces when he's out there, but the fact that he seems to get injured about once every 10 plays would make me nervous of giving up a 1st and a 3rd

His face got caved in he came back to play in the next game, that's a guy I want on my team.

While playing with a caved face he tore his hammy.

And he still played in the post-season, but at the same time with pretty lackluster numbers. I'm not ready to label the guy injury proned just yet.

 

[massraider]

Watch after all this hype Boldin will probably end up staying in Arizona

You don't yell at your coach on national TV the way Boldin did and stay around too long. He is going somewhere. Plus the market demand for WRs is high since there is only one decent FA WR so the Cards will get decent return.

I have been hearing exactly the opposite. AZ management still considers Boldin to be a key part of the team and they know Boldin has no leverage. Not to mention they would like for Warner to come back, and without Boldin, his return is less likely. If Warner opts not to return I could see them trading Boldin, but if Kurt does in fact come back I find it hard to believe that the Cardinals would get rid of an elite player when they have all the leverage.

I agree. I dunno if Boldin getting traded is that likely. The Cards don't have to do a thing.

 

[Da Guru]

Watch after all this hype Boldin will probably end up staying in Arizona

You don't yell at your coach on national TV the way Boldin did and stay around too long. He is going somewhere. Plus the market demand for WRs is high since there is only one decent FA WR so the Cards will get decent return.

I have been hearing exactly the opposite. AZ management still considers Boldin to be a key part of the team and they know Boldin has no leverage. Not to mention they would like for Warner to come back, and without Boldin, his return is less likely. If Warner opts not to return I could see them trading Boldin, but if Kurt does in fact come back I find it hard to believe that the Cardinals would get rid of an elite player when they have all the leverage.

I agree. I dunno if Boldin getting traded is that likely. The Cards don't have to do a thing.

You are correct, Boldin still has two years left on his contract that "The Cards redid when he was unhappy" after his scond season. Rod Tidwell...I mean Boldin did not have a problem until Fitz got his new deal.The Cards can wait until they get the deal they want or Boldin is going nowhere.

 

[Yenrub]

Watch after all this hype Boldin will probably end up staying in Arizona

You don't yell at your coach on national TV the way Boldin did and stay around too long. He is going somewhere. Plus the market demand for WRs is high since there is only one decent FA WR so the Cards will get decent return.

Didn't the coach he yelled at leave to be the HC in KC?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Thing is I can't see the Eagles giving up two high picks for Boldin if they can get Housh for "free" (ie, only paying him). It's a weird balance, they will gladly trade a 1st because they don't want to pay two 1st rounders 1st round money. But they can't give up a 3rd because they need to replace old players with low cost potential.

There are three reasons that I can think of...1) Boldin is 3+ years younger2) Housh is a UFA, and there's no one close to him in the free agent pool at a time when the league is flush with cap room and has an uncapped year in 2010. To me, that means Housh is going to have suitors bidding against each other. Contractually, Boldin is a much easier situation to manage because once he's traded to the team, you are only negotiating against yourself3) Boldin is the better receiver

I agree with 1 and 3...However when talking about your points in #2 you forget that boldin won't accept a trade to any team without redoing his contract....He wants to be paid..So truth is he is still going to demand a salary commesurate to his talent, and the team that trades for him will have to treat him as if he is on the open market by paying him quite handsomely...so in the end he will most likely cost more than housh salary wise, and compensation wise.

So redoing a contract is the issue? Philadelphia would be smart to set the market for a true WR1 before FA starts. Once Feb. 28th comes, the floodgates open and the bidding war starts. A trade and sign deal with a known player that is basically an exclusive negotiation is a much better situation. He won't ever see the open market.Also Points 1 and 3 make this an even better idea - they'd get the better player.

 

[massraider]

Watch after all this hype Boldin will probably end up staying in Arizona

You don't yell at your coach on national TV the way Boldin did and stay around too long. He is going somewhere. Plus the market demand for WRs is high since there is only one decent FA WR so the Cards will get decent return.

I have been hearing exactly the opposite. AZ management still considers Boldin to be a key part of the team and they know Boldin has no leverage. Not to mention they would like for Warner to come back, and without Boldin, his return is less likely. If Warner opts not to return I could see them trading Boldin, but if Kurt does in fact come back I find it hard to believe that the Cardinals would get rid of an elite player when they have all the leverage.

I agree. I dunno if Boldin getting traded is that likely. The Cards don't have to do a thing.

You are correct, Boldin still has two years left on his contract that "The Cards redid when he was unhappy" after his scond season. Rod Tidwell...I mean Boldin did not have a problem until Fitz got his new deal.The Cards can wait until they get the deal they want or Boldin is going nowhere.

I am a fan of Boldin, but when a team renegotiates your deal after your rookie year, they already went out and did what they didn't have to do. He signed a long term deal, and got paid. The good part about a long term deal, is that you get a bigger signing bonus. Bad part is, you run the risk of appearing to be underpaid later on.I am always a fan of underpaid draftees getting new deals. It's not their fault they got drafted at a certain position, and are forced into certain deals. They have little choice, on amount, or length of deal.

But once a player signs a long term deal after that, he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

 

[Bushead]

Thing is I can't see the Eagles giving up two high picks for Boldin if they can get Housh for "free" (ie, only paying him). It's a weird balance, they will gladly trade a 1st because they don't want to pay two 1st rounders 1st round money. But they can't give up a 3rd because they need to replace old players with low cost potential.

There are three reasons that I can think of...1) Boldin is 3+ years younger2) Housh is a UFA, and there's no one close to him in the free agent pool at a time when the league is flush with cap room and has an uncapped year in 2010. To me, that means Housh is going to have suitors bidding against each other. Contractually, Boldin is a much easier situation to manage because once he's traded to the team, you are only negotiating against yourself3) Boldin is the better receiver

I agree with 1 and 3...However when talking about your points in #2 you forget that boldin won't accept a trade to any team without redoing his contract....He wants to be paid..So truth is he is still going to demand a salary commesurate to his talent, and the team that trades for him will have to treat him as if he is on the open market by paying him quite handsomely...so in the end he will most likely cost more than housh salary wise, and compensation wise.

So redoing a contract is the issue? Philadelphia would be smart to set the market for a true WR1 before FA starts. Once Feb. 28th comes, the floodgates open and the bidding war starts. A trade and sign deal with a known player that is basically an exclusive negotiation is a much better situation. He won't ever see the open market.Also Points 1 and 3 make this an even better idea - they'd get the better player.

Can this happen prior to free agency? I was under the impression that even trades had to wait until the 28th?

 

[Inspiration]

I like boldin, he produces when he's out there, but the fact that he seems to get injured about once every 10 plays would make me nervous of giving up a 1st and a 3rd

His face got caved in he came back to play in the next game, that's a guy I want on my team.

While playing with a caved face he tore his hammy.

And he still played in the post-season, but at the same time with pretty lackluster numbers. I'm not ready to label the guy injury proned just yet.

In past two seasons Boldin has sustained a fractured hip, torn labrum, dislocated big toe, broken face, an unspecific shoulder injury, and a hamstring strain (which he attributed to the prior hip fracture and torn labrum). He is as tough as they come, but without a doubt his playing style makes him more susceptible to injury than most players. Any team that wants to trade for him needs to accept the fact that its unlikely that he will play 16 games.

 

[stp-d]

I will gladly accept wagers... from $1 to $5... I will be taking the Eagles do not Trade for Boldin side... :(

 

[Ripleys]

did you guys not watch the Pro Bowl? Portis is bringing Boldin to DC!

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Thing is I can't see the Eagles giving up two high picks for Boldin if they can get Housh for "free" (ie, only paying him). It's a weird balance, they will gladly trade a 1st because they don't want to pay two 1st rounders 1st round money. But they can't give up a 3rd because they need to replace old players with low cost potential.

There are three reasons that I can think of...1) Boldin is 3+ years younger2) Housh is a UFA, and there's no one close to him in the free agent pool at a time when the league is flush with cap room and has an uncapped year in 2010. To me, that means Housh is going to have suitors bidding against each other. Contractually, Boldin is a much easier situation to manage because once he's traded to the team, you are only negotiating against yourself3) Boldin is the better receiver

I agree with 1 and 3...However when talking about your points in #2 you forget that boldin won't accept a trade to any team without redoing his contract....He wants to be paid..So truth is he is still going to demand a salary commesurate to his talent, and the team that trades for him will have to treat him as if he is on the open market by paying him quite handsomely...so in the end he will most likely cost more than housh salary wise, and compensation wise.

So redoing a contract is the issue? Philadelphia would be smart to set the market for a true WR1 before FA starts. Once Feb. 28th comes, the floodgates open and the bidding war starts. A trade and sign deal with a known player that is basically an exclusive negotiation is a much better situation. He won't ever see the open market.Also Points 1 and 3 make this an even better idea - they'd get the better player.

Can this happen prior to free agency? I was under the impression that even trades had to wait until the 28th?

Technically no, but a trade at 12:01 AM and a deal put in place isn't unheard of in these situations.

 

[Phurfur]

I like boldin, he produces when he's out there, but the fact that he seems to get injured about once every 10 plays would make me nervous of giving up a 1st and a 3rd

His face got caved in he came back to play in the next game, that's a guy I want on my team.

While playing with a caved face he tore his hammy.

And he still played in the post-season, but at the same time with pretty lackluster numbers. I'm not ready to label the guy injury proned just yet.

In past two seasons Boldin has sustained a fractured hip, torn labrum, dislocated big toe, broken face, an unspecific shoulder injury, and a hamstring strain (which he attributed to the prior hip fracture and torn labrum). He is as tough as they come, but without a doubt his playing style makes him more susceptible to injury than most players. Any team that wants to trade for him needs to accept the fact that its unlikely that he will play 16 games.

Very true, Boldin has played 16 games twice in his six year career and has only played in 12 games in each of the last two seasons. He also missed a playoff game this year.