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I'd say Giants by 3. Better QB, better WRs.
RBs, just about a push.
O/D line play... both excellent.
RBs, just about a push.
O/D line play... both excellent.
What about Tampa Bay on the first Feb next year? eh?Idaho? Would North Dakota or Wyoming be OK?
Is it more of a Titans blue, or a Giants blue? Hmmm ...Is the field blue?
Well done. Beat me to it.Is the field blue?
Titans by 1.IDP players will know why - the corners / secondary for the Titans have played fantastic this year. The Titans' weakness is TE, and Kevin Boss is not scary.Jeff Fisher is arguably the better coach.I'd love to see this matchup though.I'd say Giants by 3. Better QB, better WRs.RBs, just about a push.O/D line play... both excellent.
to counteract those better WR and better QB are worse Giant DBs going against the Titans lesser passing attack, so that still seems fairly evenSome Sundays I feel like Antonio Pierce is the only one stopping the run for the Giants. Pierce is a stout run defender but, CJ and Lendale would eventually win that battle if it doesn't seem like he's getting help. Ya gotta figure though they'd all be up for that.Titans have a backup LB that's a former starter and have been going 7 and 8 deep on the DL so they might actually be able to handle Jacobs and Ward's size for a full game if they keep everyone fresh.I'd love to see the Titans Tackles battle Kiwi and Tuck. That'd be a great matchup all day.This would be a great matchupI'd say Giants by 3. Better QB, better WRs.RBs, just about a push.O/D line play... both excellent.
After a quick glance at the U.S. map, I determined that Idaho was pretty much as neutral as it gets.Idaho?
Would North Dakota or Wyoming be OK?
If Vince Young is the starting QB I may have to change my previous prediction that the Giants win this match-up.Due to his experience throwing in Idaho ---> (link)After a quick glance at the U.S. map, I determined that Idaho was pretty much as neutral as it gets.Idaho?
Would North Dakota or Wyoming be OK?
Good analysis, but I don't agree that Pierce is the only one stopping the run. Alford, Robbins, and Colfield are very good in clogging up the middle, and I actually think if anyone is underrated on the Giants D, it's these 3 guys. Field goal game in either direction.to counteract those better WR and better QB are worse Giant DBs going against the Titans lesser passing attack, so that still seems fairly evenSome Sundays I feel like Antonio Pierce is the only one stopping the run for the Giants. Pierce is a stout run defender but, CJ and Lendale would eventually win that battle if it doesn't seem like he's getting help. Ya gotta figure though they'd all be up for that.I'd say Giants by 3. Better QB, better WRs.
RBs, just about a push.
O/D line play... both excellent.
Titans have a backup LB that's a former starter and have been going 7 and 8 deep on the DL so they might actually be able to handle Jacobs and Ward's size for a full game if they keep everyone fresh.
I'd love to see the Titans Tackles battle Kiwi and Tuck. That'd be a great matchup all day.
This would be a great matchup
Thought the same thing.Is it more of a Titans blue, or a Giants blue? Hmmm ...Is the field blue?
Is Al Davis looking for a new home? The Alamo would be a fitting image for his team. The walls have been torn down and there is one mad man left standing swinging his musket/monocle at the attacking crowd.Of course the Alamo is a fitting symbol for the Ford family too. Alamo may be the last place we see those discount fleet rentals.Raiders/Lions on a neutral field in San Antonio. Discuss.
If a tree fell in the woods...The Lions suck but are competitive. The Raiders just suck. Sorry GB.Raiders/Lions on a neutral field in San Antonio. Discuss.
I agree with this, but I see the Giants being a FG better in the end.Giants would be favored by at least five. Probably six, and maybe the hook. Not that they necessarily should be. Although I'd take them at anything under -7, so maybe they should.
Rethinking this and I believe that Las Vegas would actually set the number at the Giants -2.5 or -3.I still believe that the "true number" is Titans -1, but to get 50/50 split in the wagering sides they would tilt it towards drawing more action onto Tennessee. New York will be hammered at at -1, -2, or -3 so why not make it more favorable to draw more to the Titans' side?Giants -3, New York hammers the line, it moves to -3.5 at times but probably settles on -3.Titans should be -1 though.Also - while a "neutral" site, the Giants would have the crowd early. More Giants fans across the country, more front running fans would go with the SB winners, and the Giants have more name recognition than any Titans players.As the game wore on I bet the crowd would turn neutral and favor the trailing team.Titans by 1.IDP players will know why - the corners / secondary for the Titans have played fantastic this year. The Titans' weakness is TE, and Kevin Boss is not scary.Jeff Fisher is arguably the better coach.I'd love to see this matchup though.I'd say Giants by 3. Better QB, better WRs.RBs, just about a push.O/D line play... both excellent.
The Titans would get a lot of big $$ on their side getting 6 or 7.I agree with this, but I see the Giants being a FG better in the end.Giants would be favored by at least five. Probably six, and maybe the hook. Not that they necessarily should be. Although I'd take them at anything under -7, so maybe they should.
I think the big advantage here is the Giant ability to move the ball through the air versus the Titans.If the Giants went down 2 TDs, I still have faith that the Giant WR and Eli could move the ball.If the Titans went down, while I respect Collins and think he's more than a game manager, and while the Giant secondary isn't airtight, I don't have faith they could rally. They haven't showed that ability yet. Agreed on it being a great game though, and its a LONG way a way, but this would be the best Bowl matchup we could have I think from a matchup standpoint.Titans by 1.IDP players will know why - the corners / secondary for the Titans have played fantastic this year. The Titans' weakness is TE, and Kevin Boss is not scary.Jeff Fisher is arguably the better coach.I'd love to see this matchup though.I'd say Giants by 3. Better QB, better WRs.RBs, just about a push.O/D line play... both excellent.
I was unclear, but I was agreeing with the 5 or maybe 6 spread. In the context of the question, what would the spread be, I think it would open there, and range between 4 and 7 potentially.I agree with your statement though. Hell, I'm a giants fan and the Titans plus 7 might get MY money.The Titans would get a lot of big $$ on their side getting 6 or 7.I agree with this, but I see the Giants being a FG better in the end.Giants would be favored by at least five. Probably six, and maybe the hook. Not that they necessarily should be. Although I'd take them at anything under -7, so maybe they should.
Very much doubt it. The public doesn't believe in Tennessee, and on the other hand they love NY whether they're good or not. The public has hammered the Giants in recent weeks against Pittsburgh and Dallas, and I see no reason why they wouldn't hit 'em hard against the Titans. At worst, the G-Men open at -3.5 and it only rises.The Titans would get a lot of big $$ on their side getting 6 or 7.I agree with this, but I see the Giants being a FG better in the end.Giants would be favored by at least five. Probably six, and maybe the hook. Not that they necessarily should be. Although I'd take them at anything under -7, so maybe they should.
Titans have an excellent secondary. Last week Nick Harper got destroyed, no doubt, but he is normally very solid. They handled the Colts and Packers WRs well enough to win, so I don't agree with above. Finnegan could take away Plax and I think the Titans would win every other matchup(DB vs Rec/TE). Either way it'd be entertaining and we're just debating a game that may never take place.Regardless, it could very well be a snooze fest with each team running as often as can be.I think the big advantage here is the Giant ability to move the ball through the air versus the Titans.If the Giants went down 2 TDs, I still have faith that the Giant WR and Eli could move the ball.
they're turning, go undefeated long enough and everyone loves your teamThe public doesn't believe in Tennessee
I didn't see much of the Colt game and only was watching with all the other games during the Pack matchup, but I think you have to owe some of that to Rodgers and Manning, facing experience and injury challenges respectively. A healthy Eli and Plax, Toomer, Smith, Hixon, et al is a lot to look out for. I'll keep an eye on their secondary tomorrow, and its not a knock on them, but more of a nod to the Giants ability and that neutral Idaho wind.Titans have an excellent secondary. Last week Nick Harper got destroyed, no doubt, but he is normally very solid. They handled the Colts and Packers WRs well enough to win, so I don't agree with above. Finnegan could take away Plax and I think the Titans would win every other matchup(DB vs Rec/TE). Either way it'd be entertaining and we're just debating a game that may never take place.Regardless, it could very well be a snooze fest with each team running as often as can be.I think the big advantage here is the Giant ability to move the ball through the air versus the Titans.If the Giants went down 2 TDs, I still have faith that the Giant WR and Eli could move the ball.
Yeah, let's not forget the history here. For example, the year Coughlin won every game except the three times he faced Fischer.Jeff Fisher is arguably the better coach.
The titans weakness is pass offense. K Collins has 3 TD passes this year. Three!Giants by 3Titans by 1.IDP players will know why - the corners / secondary for the Titans have played fantastic this year. The Titans' weakness is TE, and Kevin Boss is not scary.Jeff Fisher is arguably the better coach.I'd love to see this matchup though.I'd say Giants by 3. Better QB, better WRs.RBs, just about a push.O/D line play... both excellent.
you're SUCH an Eagles' homer...Titans by 1.IDP players will know why - the corners / secondary for the Titans have played fantastic this year.I'd say Giants by 3. Better QB, better WRs.
RBs, just about a push.
O/D line play... both excellent.
The Titans' weakness is TE, and Kevin Boss is not scary.
Jeff Fisher is arguably the better coach.
I'd love to see this matchup though.
Sorry, . Fisher has owned Coughlin in Jax and would own him again in NY...much better game planner and motivator.you're SUCH an Eagles' homer...Titans by 1.IDP players will know why - the corners / secondary for the Titans have played fantastic this year.I'd say Giants by 3. Better QB, better WRs.
RBs, just about a push.
O/D line play... both excellent.
The Titans' weakness is TE, and Kevin Boss is not scary.
Jeff Fisher is arguably the better coach.
I'd love to see this matchup though.
Coughlin coached the most successful expansion team in NFL history, went to the AFC championship game in just his second season as HC of the expansion Jaguars..went to a second AFC Championship game in 1999 as Jags head coach..
Won SB XXV as an assistant under Parcells with NYG
coached the Giants to a victory in the NFC Championship game last season, on the road, in GB, where the Packers seemingly NEVER lose playoff games..
won 3 road playoff games during 2007 post-season..Upset the dominant Dallas Cowboys in the process..
Coached the Giants to one of the greatest upsets in NFL history in last year's SB, against the NFL's second-ever undefeated team ( reg season), the 2007 Patriots. no small task there!
Fisher is a good coach, but better than Coughlin? nope..
Fisher is better than Reid..I'll give you that.;-)
Fisher coached the Titans to their one and only SB appearance, and never has been back to the big game..
I don't think either could get high enough in the BCS rankings to get an Alamo Bowl invite. Sorry.Raiders/Lions on a neutral field in San Antonio. Discuss.
While I'm a huge fan of Fisher's, I think you almost have to concede that Coughlin has improved since those Jacksonville days.Sorry, . Fisher has owned Coughlin in Jax and would own him again in NY...much better game planner and motivator.
How you can turn this into some strange attempt to call me a is beyond me.....I think Fisher is a better coach than Coughlin.Tanner9919 said:you're SUCH an Eagles' homer...Titans by 1.IDP players will know why - the corners / secondary for the Titans have played fantastic this year.I'd say Giants by 3. Better QB, better WRs.
RBs, just about a push.
O/D line play... both excellent.
The Titans' weakness is TE, and Kevin Boss is not scary.
Jeff Fisher is arguably the better coach.
I'd love to see this matchup though.
Coughlin coached the most successful expansion team in NFL history, went to the AFC championship game in just his second season as HC of the expansion Jaguars..went to a second AFC Championship game in 1999 as Jags head coach..
Won SB XXV as an assistant under Parcells with NYG
coached the Giants to a victory in the NFC Championship game last season, on the road, in GB, where the Packers seemingly NEVER lose playoff games..
won 3 road playoff games during 2007 post-season..Upset the dominant Dallas Cowboys in the process..
Coached the Giants to one of the greatest upsets in NFL history in last year's SB, against the NFL's second-ever undefeated team ( reg season), the 2007 Patriots. no small task there!
Fisher is a good coach, but better than Coughlin? nope..
Fisher is better than Reid..I'll give you that.;-)
Fisher coached the Titans to their one and only SB appearance, and never has been back to the big game..
More like discounting an opinion on Coughlin's work in New York because it came from an Eagles/Cowboys/Redskins fan.ETA: Seriously doubt his post was referencing Fisher's prior experience in PhillyHow you can turn this into some strange attempt to call me a is beyond me.....I think Fisher is a better coach than Coughlin.Tanner9919 said:you're SUCH an Eagles' homer...Titans by 1.IDP players will know why - the corners / secondary for the Titans have played fantastic this year.I'd say Giants by 3. Better QB, better WRs.
RBs, just about a push.
O/D line play... both excellent.
The Titans' weakness is TE, and Kevin Boss is not scary.
Jeff Fisher is arguably the better coach.
I'd love to see this matchup though.
Coughlin coached the most successful expansion team in NFL history, went to the AFC championship game in just his second season as HC of the expansion Jaguars..went to a second AFC Championship game in 1999 as Jags head coach..
Won SB XXV as an assistant under Parcells with NYG
coached the Giants to a victory in the NFC Championship game last season, on the road, in GB, where the Packers seemingly NEVER lose playoff games..
won 3 road playoff games during 2007 post-season..Upset the dominant Dallas Cowboys in the process..
Coached the Giants to one of the greatest upsets in NFL history in last year's SB, against the NFL's second-ever undefeated team ( reg season), the 2007 Patriots. no small task there!
Fisher is a good coach, but better than Coughlin? nope..
Fisher is better than Reid..I'll give you that.;-)
Fisher coached the Titans to their one and only SB appearance, and never has been back to the big game..
Fisher hasn't been in the Eagles organization for a long, long time. That's like dismissing an opinion of Mike Holmgren's work in Seattle because it came from a Packers fan.
I think you may have misunderstood the word "arguably"Side note-Best expansion team, according to what? IIRC Panthers were in NFCC in year 2. Yeah they fell apart but so did the Jags which was probably why he's in NY now. Also IIRC Coughlin was a big proponent in letting some good talent go to Houston in their expansion draft and that upset quite a few people in Jax. Boselli and a couple DTs, maybe a lineman.Tanner9919 said:you're SUCH an Eagles' homer... :XTitans by 1.IDP players will know why - the corners / secondary for the Titans have played fantastic this year.I'd say Giants by 3. Better QB, better WRs.
RBs, just about a push.
O/D line play... both excellent.
The Titans' weakness is TE, and Kevin Boss is not scary.
Jeff Fisher is arguably the better coach.
I'd love to see this matchup though.
Coughlin coached the most successful expansion team in NFL history, went to the AFC championship game in just his second season as HC of the expansion Jaguars..went to a second AFC Championship game in 1999 as Jags head coach..
Won SB XXV as an assistant under Parcells with NYG
coached the Giants to a victory in the NFC Championship game last season, on the road, in GB, where the Packers seemingly NEVER lose playoff games..
won 3 road playoff games during 2007 post-season..Upset the dominant Dallas Cowboys in the process..
Coached the Giants to one of the greatest upsets in NFL history in last year's SB, against the NFL's second-ever undefeated team ( reg season), the 2007 Patriots. no small task there!
Fisher is a good coach, but better than Coughlin? nope..
Fisher is better than Reid..I'll give you that.;-)
Fisher coached the Titans to their one and only SB appearance, and never has been back to the big game..