Gibbs press conference (1 Viewer)

[Skinsfansince72]

Not much said on the topic. Basically if Portis practices, he'll play. If not, he probably won't.

I own the guy and I'm hoping they sit him for 2 weeks or so.

"Clinton had 2 good workouts yesterday and it will be up to him weather or not he plays next Monday."

 

[redman]

If he practices, that just means he's effectively a "game time decision" even if they don't call him that.

The clear cut indication will be if he doesn't practice, but from the sound of it he's already practicing.

As I've said in all threads like this, his team gains from there being doubt because the opposing team will have to game plan for him anyway.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

I agree. Skins are clearly not the same team without him. Game plans change drastically with him out. I see a long night for Mr. Brunell if Portis sits.

My gut tells me that Portis will play if it's left up to him.

No way he wants to sit this one out.

I'm hoping they sit him though. He fell to me in the 2nd and I took him with the expectation that he would miss the first 2 games.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

If he practices, that just means he's effectively a "game time decision" even if they don't call him that. The clear cut indication will be if he doesn't practice, but from the sound of it he's already practicing. As I've said in all threads like this, his team gains from there being doubt because the opposing team will have to game plan for him anyway.

It wasn't clear if he was at practice or if he was just working out. Nobody asked and Gibbs didn't elaborate.

 

[redman]

Between Duckett and Betts, I'm not overly concerned about a game or two without Portis. That was the whole point of the Duckett trade to my mind (plus, hopefully, more effective goalline running). Obviously Portis brings some explosiveness that those guys lack, but they've got talent and the offense should be able to operate with them in the backfield.

 

[Biabreakable]

I agree that the Deadskins are in serious trouble trying to win this game if Portis sits.

If he is practicing and if Gibbs says it is up to Portis if he plays as long as he is practicing then I expect Portis to start unless I see anything contrary to that.

I agree that it is best for the Deadskins to not make this clear so the Vikings have more to prepare for on defense.

 

[my man otis]

extremely important to keep in mind that he plays on monday. you basically have to decide either sunday at 1 or in some leagues by thursday at 8pm whether or not to start him.

too early to roll the dice IMO. there's a chance you hear he practices all week and is good to go only to have it tighten up on MNF warmups.

 

[Biabreakable]

extremely important to keep in mind that he plays on monday. you basically have to decide either sunday at 1 or in some leagues by thursday at 8pm whether or not to start him.too early to roll the dice IMO. there's a chance you hear he practices all week and is good to go only to have it tighten up on MNF warmups.

True but the flip side of this is that he has an extra day to heal and recover. National spotlight of MNF also. That is extra motivation to play I think.

 

[T Bell]

extremely important to keep in mind that he plays on monday. you basically have to decide either sunday at 1 or in some leagues by thursday at 8pm whether or not to start him.

too early to roll the dice IMO. there's a chance you hear he practices all week and is good to go only to have it tighten up on MNF warmups.

True but the flip side of this is that he has an extra day to heal and recover. National spotlight of MNF also. That is extra motivation to play I think.

I know that I'd be motivated to play!

 

[boxter]

extremely important to keep in mind that he plays on monday. you basically have to decide either sunday at 1 or in some leagues by thursday at 8pm whether or not to start him.

If you may have till Monday's kickoff you might be deciding between him and Betts or Duckett or even Chester Taylor. Plus Chargers and Raiders also play on Monday night. Not that you would consider starting Portis over LT2.

 

[Biabreakable]

extremely important to keep in mind that he plays on monday. you basically have to decide either sunday at 1 or in some leagues by thursday at 8pm whether or not to start him.

too early to roll the dice IMO. there's a chance you hear he practices all week and is good to go only to have it tighten up on MNF warmups.

True but the flip side of this is that he has an extra day to heal and recover. National spotlight of MNF also. That is extra motivation to play I think.

I know that I'd be motivated to play!

Unfortunitly you are no where near as talented as Portis is.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

Between Duckett and Betts, I'm not overly concerned about a game or two without Portis. That was the whole point of the Duckett trade to my mind (plus, hopefully, more effective goalline running). Obviously Portis brings some explosiveness that those guys lack, but they've got talent and the offense should be able to operate with them in the backfield.

I'm concerned about beating Minnesota without Portis AND Springs. People are handing a game to the Skins that the Vikes could easily pull out. btw-Gibbs announced that, for all intents and purposes, Campbell is the backup. If Brunell goes down in a game, Collins will step in. If Brunell can't go the following week, it will be Campbell.

 

[popeye]

extremely important to keep in mind that he plays on monday. you basically have to decide either sunday at 1 or in some leagues by thursday at 8pm whether or not to start him.

too early to roll the dice IMO. there's a chance you hear he practices all week and is good to go only to have it tighten up on MNF warmups.

True but the flip side of this is that he has an extra day to heal and recover. National spotlight of MNF also. That is extra motivation to play I think.

I know that I'd be motivated to play!

 

[redman]

Between Duckett and Betts, I'm not overly concerned about a game or two without Portis. That was the whole point of the Duckett trade to my mind (plus, hopefully, more effective goalline running). Obviously Portis brings some explosiveness that those guys lack, but they've got talent and the offense should be able to operate with them in the backfield.

I'm concerned about beating Minnesota without Portis AND Springs. People are handing a game to the Skins that the Vikes could easily pull out. btw-Gibbs announced that, for all intents and purposes, Campbell is the backup. If Brunell goes down in a game, Collins will step in. If Brunell can't go the following week, it will be Campbell.

I agree that the loss of Springs is potentially a big deal. I'm actually more concerned about that than I am about the possibility Portis' absence. I'm not one of those handing a victory to the 'Skins, but I do think that Duckett and Betts are adequate RB's for this team to make the playoffs if they needed to.

 

[fruity pebbles]

Between Duckett and Betts, I'm not overly concerned about a game or two without Portis. That was the whole point of the Duckett trade to my mind (plus, hopefully, more effective goalline running). Obviously Portis brings some explosiveness that those guys lack, but they've got talent and the offense should be able to operate with them in the backfield.

I'm concerned about beating Minnesota without Portis AND Springs. People are handing a game to the Skins that the Vikes could easily pull out. btw-Gibbs announced that, for all intents and purposes, Campbell is the backup. If Brunell goes down in a game, Collins will step in. If Brunell can't go the following week, it will be Campbell.

I agree that the loss of Springs is potentially a big deal. I'm actually more concerned about that than I am about the possibility Portis' absence. I'm not one of those handing a victory to the 'Skins, but I do think that Duckett and Betts are adequate RB's for this team to make the playoffs if they needed to.

I disagree. The difference between Portis and either Betts or Duckett is astronomical. With Portis it's barely a playoff team. Without him and they'd struggle to go .500. My opinion.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

Between Duckett and Betts, I'm not overly concerned about a game or two without Portis. That was the whole point of the Duckett trade to my mind (plus, hopefully, more effective goalline running). Obviously Portis brings some explosiveness that those guys lack, but they've got talent and the offense should be able to operate with them in the backfield.

I'm concerned about beating Minnesota without Portis AND Springs. People are handing a game to the Skins that the Vikes could easily pull out. btw-Gibbs announced that, for all intents and purposes, Campbell is the backup. If Brunell goes down in a game, Collins will step in. If Brunell can't go the following week, it will be Campbell.

I agree that the loss of Springs is potentially a big deal. I'm actually more concerned about that than I am about the possibility Portis' absence. I'm not one of those handing a victory to the 'Skins, but I do think that Duckett and Betts are adequate RB's for this team to make the playoffs if they needed to.

Springs is a huge loss for them. Their backups are pretty weak one on one and Archuletta provides no them help at all in pass protection(poor mans' Roy Williams). I like that the Skins improved their Wr's but they are going to find that wasting the cap cash on Randall El cost them depth and thus it wqs a bad move. I do think the skins have a top 5 d and, like last year, they will pull out games on their own but the lack of depth(particularly in the secondary and along the O line)c keeps this team from being a SB contender this year.

 

[Joe Bryant]

extremely important to keep in mind that he plays on monday. you basically have to decide either sunday at 1 or in some leagues by thursday at 8pm whether or not to start him.too early to roll the dice IMO. there's a chance you hear he practices all week and is good to go only to have it tighten up on MNF warmups.

Hi otis,The trouble is that with the shoulder, it won't be something really that tightens up. He could go through warmups fine and then get in the game and take a good shot to the shoulder on the first play and be done.That's the big worry for me. It's different with a hamstring that you can know pretty much whether it's good or not. But if a DB is blitzing and Portis has to take him on, you know he's not the kind of guy to do the ole' and let Brunell get killed. Going from good to out in one play is what worries me a little this week. We'll see.J

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Small samples, but last year Gibbs listed 2 fantasy starters as Doubtful and 5 as Questionable with none of them actually playing. Yet he listed 15 fantasy starters as Probable and 13 of them played. I would say you should feel good if he's listed as Probable on Friday.

 

[redman]

Small samples, but last year Gibbs listed 2 fantasy starters as Doubtful and 5 as Questionable with none of them actually playing. Yet he listed 15 fantasy starters as Probable and 13 of them played. I would say you should feel good if he's listed as Probable on Friday.

Very cool info. I'd never seen that broken down as to Gibbs before. Thanks.

 

[redman]

extremely important to keep in mind that he plays on monday. you basically have to decide either sunday at 1 or in some leagues by thursday at 8pm whether or not to start him.too early to roll the dice IMO. there's a chance you hear he practices all week and is good to go only to have it tighten up on MNF warmups.

Hi otis,The trouble is that with the shoulder, it won't be something really that tightens up. He could go through warmups fine and then get in the game and take a good shot to the shoulder on the first play and be done.That's the big worry for me. It's different with a hamstring that you can know pretty much whether it's good or not. But if a DB is blitzing and Portis has to take him on, you know he's not the kind of guy to do the ole' and let Brunell get killed. Going from good to out in one play is what worries me a little this week. We'll see.J

That's definitely the risk, although the fact that they're talking about him playing without a brace hopefully means that the fact that it was a subluxation (merely partial dislocation) rather than a full dislocation will help to reduce the chances of that occurring.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Small samples, but last year Gibbs listed 2 fantasy starters as Doubtful and 5 as Questionable with none of them actually playing. Yet he listed 15 fantasy starters as Probable and 13 of them played. I would say you should feel good if he's listed as Probable on Friday.

Very cool info. I'd never seen that broken down as to Gibbs before. Thanks.

Thanks. Have a whole big freelance article with it and all the injuries last year that should be posted sometime....

 

[SteelerMurf]

It's not about taking a "big hit", it's about taking an awkward hit. One you may not think would hurt ya. It all depends how "stretched" everything got when it went out the first time and how far it went out.

Having the same injury, I am willing to bet he has no real pain unless he raises his hand completely above his head and rotates his arm backwards. That is why I think he should wear a brace, to keep his arm from doing that. But it will limit his pass catching abilities.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

Monday, September 04, 9:13 PM EST (Week Pre-season)

News Story: Ryan O'Halloran, of The Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis' (shoulder) status for Week 1 remains UNCERTAIN. RB Ladell Betts will start if Portis cannot play.

Source: KFFL

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

Monday, September 04, 9:13 PM EST (Week Pre-season)News Story: Ryan O'Halloran, of The Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis' (shoulder) status for Week 1 remains UNCERTAIN. RB Ladell Betts will start if Portis cannot play.Source: KFFL

Not to speculate but it seems that Gibbs and the Redskins are being a little tight lipped on the situation. Simple 1 line answers like"Clinton pracitced today and its up to him if he goes or not..............."I think he will be listed as doubtful or questionable for the game and will be a GTD.All that being said I think he's ready to go.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

Monday, September 04, 9:13 PM EST (Week Pre-season)News Story: Ryan O'Halloran, of The Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis' (shoulder) status for Week 1 remains UNCERTAIN. RB Ladell Betts will start if Portis cannot play.Source: KFFL

Not to speculate but it seems that Gibbs and the Redskins are being a little tight lipped on the situation. Simple 1 line answers like"Clinton pracitced today and its up to him if he goes or not..............."I think he will be listed as doubtful or questionable for the game and will be a GTD.All that being said I think he's ready to go.

I do too. He'll be in my lineup until I hear he's not playing. If it's a game time decision I'm going to roll the dice. I wish they would sit him but I also think that if it's up to him(and Gibbs says it is) he's playing.

 

[Macdaddy_2004]

Monday, September 04, 9:13 PM EST (Week Pre-season)News Story: Ryan O'Halloran, of The Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis' (shoulder) status for Week 1 remains UNCERTAIN. RB Ladell Betts will start if Portis cannot play.Source: KFFL

Not to speculate but it seems that Gibbs and the Redskins are being a little tight lipped on the situation. Simple 1 line answers like"Clinton pracitced today and its up to him if he goes or not..............."I think he will be listed as doubtful or questionable for the game and will be a GTD.All that being said I think he's ready to go.

I do too. He'll be in my lineup until I hear he's not playing. If it's a game time decision I'm going to roll the dice. I wish they would sit him but I also think that if it's up to him(and Gibbs says it is) he's playing.

I've got the luxury of having Betts on the bench so if Clinton doesn't go I'll plug him in

 

[Biabreakable]

Monday, September 04, 9:13 PM EST (Week Pre-season)News Story: Ryan O'Halloran, of The Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis' (shoulder) status for Week 1 remains UNCERTAIN. RB Ladell Betts will start if Portis cannot play.Source: KFFL

Not to speculate but it seems that Gibbs and the Redskins are being a little tight lipped on the situation. Simple 1 line answers like"Clinton pracitced today and its up to him if he goes or not..............."I think he will be listed as doubtful or questionable for the game and will be a GTD.All that being said I think he's ready to go.

I agree.Will continue to watch the situation but I expect Portis will play and play well despite the Vikings improvements on defense.

 

[redman]

Monday, September 04, 9:13 PM EST (Week Pre-season)News Story: Ryan O'Halloran, of The Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins RB Clinton Portis' (shoulder) status for Week 1 remains UNCERTAIN. RB Ladell Betts will start if Portis cannot play.Source: KFFL

Not to speculate but it seems that Gibbs and the Redskins are being a little tight lipped on the situation. Simple 1 line answers like"Clinton pracitced today and its up to him if he goes or not..............."I think he will be listed as doubtful or questionable for the game and will be a GTD.All that being said I think he's ready to go.

I do too. He'll be in my lineup until I hear he's not playing. If it's a game time decision I'm going to roll the dice. I wish they would sit him but I also think that if it's up to him(and Gibbs says it is) he's playing.

I've got the luxury of having Betts on the bench so if Clinton doesn't go I'll plug him in

Heh, that may be a curse more than a blessing for this game. How will you know when you submit lineups whether Portis will be playing? You may be getting a little slice of what it's like to have Minnesota or Denver RB's on your team.