GM's thread about nothing (54 Viewers)

[krista4]

K4 I thought about you for some reason either last night or this morning, but for the life of me I can't remember why or what. That's what made your re-post so ironic. It was pretty important, though. So important I forgot.

Thanks?

 

[Finless]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

No pawn shops. You've seen the show. You're lucky to get 30% of its value. Pawn shops generally gauge the value of what they buy by looking on eBay. eBay/Amazon set the world market.

 

[krista4]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

eBay sounds like a good call for something like that, but if you don't have any feedback a lot of people wouldn't bid on it. Maybe someone around here has a good eBay rating and would do it for you.

 

[cosjobs]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

tell us about it.

Please tell me you have it on a plan with unlimited minutes.

Do you ahve a receipt or any provenance? There are tons of counterfeit watches out there.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I had a dream last night I was attending college at UoT in Austin and rode a motor cycle all over campus.

 

[krista4]

Anyone ever make a huge life decision and then wonder what the hell you were thinking? Someone along the lines of, say, holding a draft in the GMTAN thread, but maybe even bigger?

 

[cosjobs]

I had a dream last night I was attending college at UoT in Austin and rode a motor cycle all over campus.

You dreamed you were me in 1980?

If so, don't take those mushrooms the guy in the RTF building gave me during the Italian cinema class.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

SOD is still out there in this GMTAN draft. First one to PM me, I'll give you the pick.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Anyone ever make a huge life decision and then wonder what the hell you were thinking? Someone along the lines of, say, holding a draft in the GMTAN thread, but maybe even bigger?

Bigger than the Draft? No.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

Anyone ever make a huge life decision and then wonder what the hell you were thinking? Someone along the lines of, say, holding a draft in the GMTAN thread, but maybe even bigger?

So you sent in the adoption papers?!

I had a dream last night I was attending college at UoT in Austin and rode a motor cycle all over campus.

You dreamed you were me in 1980?

If so, don't take those mushrooms the guy in the RTF building gave me during the Italian cinema class.

lol

 

[General Malaise]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

tell us about it.

Please tell me you have it on a plan with unlimited minutes.

Do you ahve a receipt or any provenance? There are tons of counterfeit watches out there.

I SURE DO LIKE MY NEW FREE TELEPHONE!!!111

 

[Ignoramus]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

www.watchuseek.com has an active buying/selling forum although, like eBay, a brand new person selling a high-end item is going to raise some flags. Take a look around there though to get an idea of what you're looking at.Out of curiosity, what's the watch?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Anyone ever make a huge life decision and then wonder what the hell you were thinking? Someone along the lines of, say, holding a draft in the GMTAN thread, but maybe even bigger?

I'm grateful for the opportunity to repay you by providing reassurance right back to you. Relax, it's probably just this...

I've been drawing some comfort from the fact that krista's clearly lost her mind over the move to Nigeria, but I'm looking for further reassurance. All women are exceptionally bad at dealing with change, right?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

SOD is still out there in this GMTAN draft. First one to PM me, I'll give you the pick.

Do not PM, I have already sent the pick to IB.

 

[General Malaise]

I have some paperwork with the watch, but I think it's only an appraisal from a jeweler in Dallas done years ago. I pay insurance on it, but I haven't worn it in well over a year.

It's a Brugeut (sp?).

 

[General Malaise]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

www.watchuseek.com has an active buying/selling forum although, like eBay, a brand new person selling a high-end item is going to raise some flags. Take a look around there though to get an idea of what you're looking at.Out of curiosity, what's the watch?

It looks a lot like this

 

[General Malaise]

Chem X, Doctor Detroit AND Finless...all in the same day? Nice!

 

[Tiger Fan]

QB: Tom Brady, Brandon Weeden, Kevin Kolb,
RB: DeMarco Murray, Jaquizz Rodgers, Rashard Mendenhall, Bernard Pierce, Ryan Williams, Dujuan Harris
WR: Andre Johnson, T.Y. Hilton, Josh Gordon, Chris Givens, Denard Robinson, Dexter McCluster, Nick Toon, Kenbrell Thompkins, Lavon Brazzil
TE: Jimmy Graham, Jacob Tamme
DEF: ATL, DET
PK: Randy Bullock, Lawrence Tynes

Anyone interested in trading us a QB that 1) does not have a week 10 bye week and 2) is likely to be playing in week 10 unless broken?

WE HAVE KEVIN KOLBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Is there money involved in this league?

 

[Idiot Boxer]

SOD is still out there in this GMTAN draft. First one to PM me, I'll give you the pick.

Do not PM, I have already sent the pick to IB.

Not food named. Rejected.

 

[UOFI_316]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

www.watchuseek.com has an active buying/selling forum although, like eBay, a brand new person selling a high-end item is going to raise some flags. Take a look around there though to get an idea of what you're looking at.Out of curiosity, what's the watch?

I am guessing this one.

 

[krista4]

SOD is still out there in this GMTAN draft. First one to PM me, I'll give you the pick.

Do not PM, I have already sent the pick to IB.

Not food named. Rejected.

As I told you, give me a guy and I'll make him into a food.

 

[Ignoramus]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

www.watchuseek.com has an active buying/selling forum although, like eBay, a brand new person selling a high-end item is going to raise some flags. Take a look around there though to get an idea of what you're looking at.Out of curiosity, what's the watch?

It looks a lot like this

Yowza.No experience with anything that pricey... Maybe a consignment shop or auction house would be better?

 

[krista4]

Anyone ever make a huge life decision and then wonder what the hell you were thinking? Someone along the lines of, say, holding a draft in the GMTAN thread, but maybe even bigger?

I'm grateful for the opportunity to repay you by providing reassurance right back to you. Relax, it's probably just this...

I've been drawing some comfort from the fact that krista's clearly lost her mind over the move to Nigeria, but I'm looking for further reassurance. All women are exceptionally bad at dealing with change, right?

Yeah, I think giving up a high-paying job and career, selling everything I own, and moving to a third-world country is a wee bit more change than one's everyday "I don't like the new living room color" or whatever.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

SOD is still out there in this GMTAN draft. First one to PM me, I'll give you the pick.

Do not PM, I have already sent the pick to IB.

Not food named. Rejected.

As I told you, give me a guy and I'll make him into a food.

How you doin'?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Anyone ever make a huge life decision and then wonder what the hell you were thinking? Someone along the lines of, say, holding a draft in the GMTAN thread, but maybe even bigger?

I'm grateful for the opportunity to repay you by providing reassurance right back to you. Relax, it's probably just this...

I've been drawing some comfort from the fact that krista's clearly lost her mind over the move to Nigeria, but I'm looking for further reassurance. All women are exceptionally bad at dealing with change, right?

Yeah, I think giving up a high-paying job and career, selling everything I own, and moving to a third-world country is a wee bit more change than one's everyday "I don't like the new living room color" or whatever.

but it's a really bold color.

 

[krista4]

Anyone ever make a huge life decision and then wonder what the hell you were thinking? Someone along the lines of, say, holding a draft in the GMTAN thread, but maybe even bigger?

So you sent in the adoption papers?!

Make sure your passport is up-to-date!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Anyone ever make a huge life decision and then wonder what the hell you were thinking? Someone along the lines of, say, holding a draft in the GMTAN thread, but maybe even bigger?

So you sent in the adoption papers?!

Make sure your passport is up-to-date!

And you can't bring a purse with you.

 

[krista4]

SOD is still out there in this GMTAN draft. First one to PM me, I'll give you the pick.

Do not PM, I have already sent the pick to IB.

Not food named. Rejected.

As I told you, give me a guy and I'll make him into a food.

How you doin'?

I knew there had to be a perfect comeback to that; this was it.

 

[UOFI_316]

Anyone ever make a huge life decision and then wonder what the hell you were thinking? Someone along the lines of, say, holding a draft in the GMTAN thread, but maybe even bigger?

So you sent in the adoption papers?!

Make sure your passport is up-to-date!

And you can't bring a purse with you.

and you have to wear a cat costume and be shipped in the cargo hold.

 

[krista4]

Anyone ever make a huge life decision and then wonder what the hell you were thinking? Someone along the lines of, say, holding a draft in the GMTAN thread, but maybe even bigger?

So you sent in the adoption papers?!

Make sure your passport is up-to-date!

And you can't bring a purse with you.

and you have to wear a cat costume and be shipped in the cargo hold.

Our cats did not go in the cargo hold.

 

[krista4]

Saturday was Carnaval, and yesterday was the big horse parade (3,000 horses right through the middle of town). Horse parade was fun but now the city smells like ####.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

No pawn shops. Ebay is a great secondary market for high-end time pieces, there are other places out there as well. I think Watchcrowd has some avenues also, there are many outlets for these. If you find a local jeweler who deals in used Rolexs/Breitlings/Etc, you might get a fair price from them as well.

 

[General Malaise]

QB: Tom Brady, Brandon Weeden, Kevin Kolb,
RB: DeMarco Murray, Jaquizz Rodgers, Rashard Mendenhall, Bernard Pierce, Ryan Williams, Dujuan Harris
WR: Andre Johnson, T.Y. Hilton, Josh Gordon, Chris Givens, Denard Robinson, Dexter McCluster, Nick Toon, Kenbrell Thompkins, Lavon Brazzil
TE: Jimmy Graham, Jacob Tamme
DEF: ATL, DET
PK: Randy Bullock, Lawrence Tynes

Anyone interested in trading us a QB that 1) does not have a week 10 bye week and 2) is likely to be playing in week 10 unless broken?

WE HAVE KEVIN KOLBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

Whoa whoa whoa....hold it right there, mister "TRADES AND TRANSACTIONS ARE TOO TEDIOUS". Just what in the hell do you think you're doing?

 

[Idiot Boxer]

QB: Tom Brady, Brandon Weeden, Kevin Kolb,
RB: DeMarco Murray, Jaquizz Rodgers, Rashard Mendenhall, Bernard Pierce, Ryan Williams, Dujuan Harris
WR: Andre Johnson, T.Y. Hilton, Josh Gordon, Chris Givens, Denard Robinson, Dexter McCluster, Nick Toon, Kenbrell Thompkins, Lavon Brazzil
TE: Jimmy Graham, Jacob Tamme
DEF: ATL, DET
PK: Randy Bullock, Lawrence Tynes

Anyone interested in trading us a QB that 1) does not have a week 10 bye week and 2) is likely to be playing in week 10 unless broken?

WE HAVE KEVIN KOLBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

Whoa whoa whoa....hold it right there, mister "TRADES AND TRANSACTIONS ARE TOO TEDIOUS". Just what in the hell do you think you're doing?

Pretty sure we established "in-draft" trades are allowed.

No in-season trades.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

www.watchuseek.com has an active buying/selling forum although, like eBay, a brand new person selling a high-end item is going to raise some flags. Take a look around there though to get an idea of what you're looking at.Out of curiosity, what's the watch?

It looks a lot like this

Go get that looked at. Google a local guy who sells used Rolexs (one who is a certified Rolex dealer is best) and take it in and have it ballparked for value. That might be a $10k watch, ebay might not be great outlet. You might have to go to an international on-line marketplace, which the jeweler might also know. Get it valued, certified and then find a place to sell.

 

[General Malaise]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

No pawn shops. Ebay is a great secondary market for high-end time pieces, there are other places out there as well. I think Watchcrowd has some avenues also, there are many outlets for these. If you find a local jeweler who deals in used Rolexs/Breitlings/Etc, you might get a fair price from them as well.

Thanks, GB. I might try to find a local spot that's a step up from American Jewelry & Loan.

Kinda nervous about selling it. I love it, but it's just not me. I get worried when I wear it (drunken idiot worry; not downtown Memphis worry) and if I leave it to my kids, well...I have to choose. If I got a fair price, I could put that money in their college funds. Or snort it.

 

[Guster]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

No pawn shops. Ebay is a great secondary market for high-end time pieces, there are other places out there as well. I think Watchcrowd has some avenues also, there are many outlets for these. If you find a local jeweler who deals in used Rolexs/Breitlings/Etc, you might get a fair price from them as well.

Thanks, GB. I might try to find a local spot that's a step up from American Jewelry & Loan.

Kinda nervous about selling it. I love it, but it's just not me. I get worried when I wear it (drunken idiot worry; not downtown Memphis worry) and if I leave it to my kids, well...I have to choose. If I got a fair price, I could put that money in their college funds. Or snort it.

Or give the money to a stripper to place a bet for you in Vegas

 

[Mr.Pack]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

www.watchuseek.com has an active buying/selling forum although, like eBay, a brand new person selling a high-end item is going to raise some flags. Take a look around there though to get an idea of what you're looking at.Out of curiosity, what's the watch?

I am guessing this one.

 

[General Malaise]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

www.watchuseek.com has an active buying/selling forum although, like eBay, a brand new person selling a high-end item is going to raise some flags. Take a look around there though to get an idea of what you're looking at.Out of curiosity, what's the watch?

It looks a lot like this

Go get that looked at. Google a local guy who sells used Rolexs (one who is a certified Rolex dealer is best) and take it in and have it ballparked for value. That might be a $10k watch, ebay might not be great outlet. You might have to go to an international on-line marketplace, which the jeweler might also know. Get it valued, certified and then find a place to sell.

FWIW, I think you're a real doctor.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

No pawn shops. Ebay is a great secondary market for high-end time pieces, there are other places out there as well. I think Watchcrowd has some avenues also, there are many outlets for these. If you find a local jeweler who deals in used Rolexs/Breitlings/Etc, you might get a fair price from them as well.

Thanks, GB. I might try to find a local spot that's a step up from American Jewelry & Loan.

Kinda nervous about selling it. I love it, but it's just not me. I get worried when I wear it (drunken idiot worry; not downtown Memphis worry) and if I leave it to my kids, well...I have to choose. If I got a fair price, I could put that money in their college funds. Or snort it.

Use the money on a couple more strip club visits with Uni.

 

[General Malaise]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

No pawn shops. Ebay is a great secondary market for high-end time pieces, there are other places out there as well. I think Watchcrowd has some avenues also, there are many outlets for these. If you find a local jeweler who deals in used Rolexs/Breitlings/Etc, you might get a fair price from them as well.

Thanks, GB. I might try to find a local spot that's a step up from American Jewelry & Loan.

Kinda nervous about selling it. I love it, but it's just not me. I get worried when I wear it (drunken idiot worry; not downtown Memphis worry) and if I leave it to my kids, well...I have to choose. If I got a fair price, I could put that money in their college funds. Or snort it.

Or give the money to a stripper to place a bet for you in Vegas

What kind of a derelict monkey do you take me for? Oh, wait....

 

[General Malaise]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

No pawn shops. Ebay is a great secondary market for high-end time pieces, there are other places out there as well. I think Watchcrowd has some avenues also, there are many outlets for these. If you find a local jeweler who deals in used Rolexs/Breitlings/Etc, you might get a fair price from them as well.

Thanks, GB. I might try to find a local spot that's a step up from American Jewelry & Loan.

Kinda nervous about selling it. I love it, but it's just not me. I get worried when I wear it (drunken idiot worry; not downtown Memphis worry) and if I leave it to my kids, well...I have to choose. If I got a fair price, I could put that money in their college funds. Or snort it.

Use the money on a couple more strip club visits with Uni.

When we went to the first one, I told him I was going to the store first. He asked me why and I said I am against paying out of service fees for ATM withdrawals, so I bought a couple of beers and got cash back. He was aghast that I would only roll in there with the $40 they allowed me to take out at the store. I assured him we would have to work very hard to spend more than $40 at the Acrop. Of course, that was long before the liquor made Chase propose to a stripper named Sin and well before he forgot where his brother lived.

 

[cosjobs]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

No pawn shops. Ebay is a great secondary market for high-end time pieces, there are other places out there as well. I think Watchcrowd has some avenues also, there are many outlets for these. If you find a local jeweler who deals in used Rolexs/Breitlings/Etc, you might get a fair price from them as well.

Thanks, GB. I might try to find a local spot that's a step up from American Jewelry & Loan.

Kinda nervous about selling it. I love it, but it's just not me. I get worried when I wear it (drunken idiot worry; not downtown Memphis worry) and if I leave it to my kids, well...I have to choose. If I got a fair price, I could put that money in their college funds. Or snort it.

Use the money on a couple more strip club visits with Uni.

When we went to the first one, I told him I was going to the store first. He asked me why and I said I am against paying out of service fees for ATM withdrawals, so I bought a couple of beers and got cash back. He was aghast that I would only roll in there with the $40 they allowed me to take out at the store. I assured him we would have to work very hard to spend more than $40 at the Acrop. Of course, that was long before the liquor made Chase propose to a stripper named Sin and well before he forgot where his brother lived.

I'm having a really hard time picturing uni with an aghast expression

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

No pawn shops. Ebay is a great secondary market for high-end time pieces, there are other places out there as well. I think Watchcrowd has some avenues also, there are many outlets for these. If you find a local jeweler who deals in used Rolexs/Breitlings/Etc, you might get a fair price from them as well.

Thanks, GB. I might try to find a local spot that's a step up from American Jewelry & Loan.

Kinda nervous about selling it. I love it, but it's just not me. I get worried when I wear it (drunken idiot worry; not downtown Memphis worry) and if I leave it to my kids, well...I have to choose. If I got a fair price, I could put that money in their college funds. Or snort it.

Use the money on a couple more strip club visits with Uni.

When we went to the first one, I told him I was going to the store first. He asked me why and I said I am against paying out of service fees for ATM withdrawals, so I bought a couple of beers and got cash back. He was aghast that I would only roll in there with the $40 they allowed me to take out at the store. I assured him we would have to work very hard to spend more than $40 at the Acrop. Of course, that was long before the liquor made Chase propose to a stripper named Sin and well before he forgot where his brother lived.

He and I should NEVER be allowed in a nudie bar together.

 

[General Malaise]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

No pawn shops. Ebay is a great secondary market for high-end time pieces, there are other places out there as well. I think Watchcrowd has some avenues also, there are many outlets for these. If you find a local jeweler who deals in used Rolexs/Breitlings/Etc, you might get a fair price from them as well.

Thanks, GB. I might try to find a local spot that's a step up from American Jewelry & Loan.

Kinda nervous about selling it. I love it, but it's just not me. I get worried when I wear it (drunken idiot worry; not downtown Memphis worry) and if I leave it to my kids, well...I have to choose. If I got a fair price, I could put that money in their college funds. Or snort it.

Use the money on a couple more strip club visits with Uni.

When we went to the first one, I told him I was going to the store first. He asked me why and I said I am against paying out of service fees for ATM withdrawals, so I bought a couple of beers and got cash back. He was aghast that I would only roll in there with the $40 they allowed me to take out at the store. I assured him we would have to work very hard to spend more than $40 at the Acrop. Of course, that was long before the liquor made Chase propose to a stripper named Sin and well before he forgot where his brother lived.

I'm having a really hard time picturing uni with an aghast expression

well played

 

[guru_007]

I like watches. $50?

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Anybody here have experience and or tips on selling a used high end wrist watch? I inherited one years ago and love it, but I never wear it anymore. Never sold anything on Ebay, but am open to it. I don't think a pawn shop is right for this, is it? Thoughts?

www.watchuseek.com has an active buying/selling forum although, like eBay, a brand new person selling a high-end item is going to raise some flags. Take a look around there though to get an idea of what you're looking at.Out of curiosity, what's the watch?

It looks a lot like this

Go get that looked at. Google a local guy who sells used Rolexs (one who is a certified Rolex dealer is best) and take it in and have it ballparked for value. That might be a $10k watch, ebay might not be great outlet. You might have to go to an international on-line marketplace, which the jeweler might also know. Get it valued, certified and then find a place to sell.

FWIW, I think you're a real doctor.

I know he's a doctor because one time he brought me a bacon breakfast sandwich when I was hungover and I WAS CURED!

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Those watch people make a decent bagel too. Win-win.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l2632.R2.TR11.TRC1.A0.Xbruguet&_nkw=breguet&_sacat=14324&_from=R40