GnR : Appetite For Destruction (1 Viewer)

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Offshoot of the Chinese Conspiracy thread....

Tough not to consider Appetite as one of the best Straight-Out Rock albums ever released.

Has there been an overall superior Rock album released since Appetite?

Song for song....total package. Not saying there hasn't been... just curious what others' thoughts were on this.

Discuss

 

[Northern Voice]

Nevermind comes pretty close.

 

[Oh Yes!]

this?

 

[Evilgrin 72]

If you're talking just straight hard rock, rather than metal, then I'd have to say no, there hasn't been. None that I can think of off the top of my head, anyway. If you count the Seattle bands as hard rock, then there's competition. To me, they're more heavy alt rock.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

Ten.

 

[Otis]

Doesn't exist.

 

[Gadabout]

Ten.

For reals.

 

[Otis]

Ten.

Great album, but not Appetite great.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Ten.

Great album, but not Appetite great.

I like Ten better than AFD.

 

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Ten.

This one comes to mind. I'm as big of a PJ fan as you'll find and consider 10 to be a complete masterpiece. Every song is stellar. That said I'm not sure it's not an inferior straight "Rock & Roll" album. It's brilliant, but as EvilGrin pointed out..it sorta falls into alt-rock.

Plus It lack the balls to the wall, falling apart at the seams outlandish nature of Appetite.

That said...it's very worthwhile to be thrown in the discussion.

 

[Borat]

Alice in Chains - Dirt.

 

[Die]

What if I can't do this?

 

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Ten.

Great album, but not Appetite great.

I like Ten better than AFD.

Two of my favorite albums that I love in completely different ways. Appetite gets you loose in a way 10 can't... but 10 is likely an overall better disc in my universe.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Ten.

Great album, but not Appetite great.

I like Ten better than AFD.

Two of my favorite albums that I love in completely different ways. Appetite gets you loose in a way 10 can't... but 10 is likely an overall better disc in my universe.

Agree 100% on all counts. Appetite is a beer drinkin, whore bangin album. Ten is more for kicking back and getting lost in sound.

 

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Nevermind comes pretty close.

Nevermind is good but going back and listening to it, it's got some holes in it. Appetite at is peak is superior than Nevermind at it's best.

Appetite at it's worst is better than Nevermind at it's worst.

Appetite's also got a higher "average" IMHO.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

Rage Against the Machine - self titled

 

[Walton Goggins]

Alice in Chains - Dirt.

I don't think AIC at that time was as commercial as GNR so many may have never heard that album.

 

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Rage Against the Machine - self titled

Love me some Rage. Recently started a Rage thread actually (last week) and was listening to this very album. That said.. I don't see it. I love Rage but I really have to be in the mood for them. DeLa Rocha is a bit repetitive at times and the songs as a whole sorta blur together in spots. Dunno... if it was an easy call I wouldn't have started the thread.

 

[Borat]

Rage Against the Machine - self titled

I know I'm probably alone on this one, but as time has passed, I look back upon RATM's lyrics as nothing but a bunch of complaining and whining over this, that, and the other thing... much of which I can't honestly say that I can relate to.

 

[Big_Russel]

Rage Against the Machine - self titled

Thats a good one. Not sure it's better... but it is really, really good.

 

[Workhorse]

The Strokes - Is This It?

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

Rage Against the Machine - self titled

I know I'm probably alone on this one, but as time has passed, I look back upon RATM's lyrics as nothing but a bunch of complaining and whining over this, that, and the other thing... much of which I can't honestly say that I can relate to.

Yeah, but the rock is fantastic. I don't think GNR's lyrics match up with PJ's but the albums are very close as far as this thread is concerned. I would also add that it may (probably? definitely?) depend on the age of the listener. Even as timeless as this music is, something about popping that Ten album in the CD player in my first car and just going out for a 60 minute vacation that I can't shake here. Call 'em emotional ties. And I'm positive the same could be said for Appetite.If we're going rock vs. rock, though, I still have to go with Ten - notwithstanding the personal bias.

 

[Dentist]

This album definitely ROCKS, really hard. Mr. Brownstone is my favorite GnR song, and Paradise City is fantastic.

However, Razors Edge from AC/DC is also solid

I'd still give the edge to AfD

 

[Oh Yes!]

mookie mookie mookie!!!!!!!!

 

[Bonzai]

I don't think there is one. Which is kind of sad, really.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

The context of Appetite is one of the things that makes it so special. It was shot into a vacuum of bad music and exploded (actually, it took a little bit for it to take off).

That, and the fact (and maybe I am biased) that you can pop that album in and it doesn't sound like it is 20 years old already. Hell, the new chinese democracy garbage is a lot more "dated" than appetite. Most of those songs are timeless.

 

[Red Eyed and Blue]

I think Rocket Queen is the best song on that amazing album....heard it last Friday night for the first time in years and forgot how great it was.

Probably not as solid through and through, but I think these rock albums can at least compete.

Tool - Ænima. Undertow probably more popular here, but IMO, this is their best work by far. Some amazing tracks on this one.

Ministry - Psalm 69. GnR was more traditional rock. This album was shake your bones rock from start to finish. They could never duplicate this masterpiece, either.

And I know it's really not in the same ballpark, but I had such high hopes for Wolfmother after picking up their first full length effort. Song for song, that thing was an exceptional album and it's a shame they broke up.

 

[Big_Russel]

I'll take heat for this one... but i would give some consideration to Audioslave's (Self titled) Album. It is right up there IMO. That is a great rock album. I think the commercialism hurts it some, but there is not a bad song on it.

 

[Mookie Blaylock]

I'll take heat for this one... but i would give some consideration to Audioslave's (Self titled) Album. It is right up there IMO. That is a great rock album. I think the commercialism hurts it some, but there is not a bad song on it.

I hate to sound like a complete and total snob here, but it actually hurt me inside to see Audioslave in this discussion. Not a bad album at all, by the way. But to compare it to seminal albums like Ten and Appetite...well, it just hurts.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Metallica-Black Album (Self Titled)

This came out in 1991 and had a very long shelf life...from Enter Sandman to Wherever I May Roam to The Unforgiven to Nothing Else Matters...this a,bum also launched a very lengthy World Tour where they eventually played with the band you started the thread about.

I love AfD and probably listen to that more than Metallica. With AfD, it's the songs that weren't played on the radio like Its So Easy, Nighttrain, Rocket Queen...I'm not sure anything can top it.

Just for more conversation, I would also throw Tom Petty, Full Moon Fever...it has some pretty awesome songs, albeit not quite as hard rock as GnR and Metallica, but Running Down a Dream and Won't Back Down are pretty kick ### in my book. I believe almost every track on that CD is very listenable...I played it to death on both cross country trips I have been on.

 

[Big_Russel]

I'll take heat for this one... but i would give some consideration to Audioslave's (Self titled) Album. It is right up there IMO. That is a great rock album. I think the commercialism hurts it some, but there is not a bad song on it.

I hate to sound like a complete and total snob here, but it actually hurt me inside to see Audioslave in this discussion. Not a bad album at all, by the way. But to compare it to seminal albums like Ten and Appetite...well, it just hurts.

That's only because it's so modern... 10 years from now, the generation that grew up to the songs will hold it in the same regards as we all hold AFD or Ten. Great albums get better with age (and nostalgia). Audioslave's album is a great album. It was a quick breath of fresh air, in an era where good rock was all but non existent.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

Metallica-Black Album (Self Titled)This came out in 1991 and had a very long shelf life...from Enter Sandman to Wherever I May Roam to The Unforgiven to Nothing Else Matters...this a,bum also launched a very lengthy World Tour where they eventually played with the band you started the thread about. I love AfD and probably listen to that more than Metallica. With AfD, it's the songs that weren't played on the radio like Its So Easy, Nighttrain, Rocket Queen...I'm not sure anything can top it. Just for more conversation, I would also throw Tom Petty, Full Moon Fever...it has some pretty awesome songs, albeit not quite as hard rock as GnR and Metallica, but Running Down a Dream and Won't Back Down are pretty kick ### in my book. I believe almost every track on that CD is very listenable...I played it to death on both cross country trips I have been on.

good call on the Black Album

 

[Big_Russel]

Metallica-Black Album (Self Titled)This came out in 1991 and had a very long shelf life...from Enter Sandman to Wherever I May Roam to The Unforgiven to Nothing Else Matters...this a,bum also launched a very lengthy World Tour where they eventually played with the band you started the thread about. I love AfD and probably listen to that more than Metallica. With AfD, it's the songs that weren't played on the radio like Its So Easy, Nighttrain, Rocket Queen...I'm not sure anything can top it. Just for more conversation, I would also throw Tom Petty, Full Moon Fever...it has some pretty awesome songs, albeit not quite as hard rock as GnR and Metallica, but Running Down a Dream and Won't Back Down are pretty kick ### in my book. I believe almost every track on that CD is very listenable...I played it to death on both cross country trips I have been on.

good call on the Black Album

I didn't even realize that was made in '91. Wow... i thought it was older than that.

 

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Metallica-Black Album (Self Titled)This came out in 1991 and had a very long shelf life...from Enter Sandman to Wherever I May Roam to The Unforgiven to Nothing Else Matters...this a,bum also launched a very lengthy World Tour where they eventually played with the band you started the thread about. I love AfD and probably listen to that more than Metallica. With AfD, it's the songs that weren't played on the radio like Its So Easy, Nighttrain, Rocket Queen...I'm not sure anything can top it. Just for more conversation, I would also throw Tom Petty, Full Moon Fever...it has some pretty awesome songs, albeit not quite as hard rock as GnR and Metallica, but Running Down a Dream and Won't Back Down are pretty kick ### in my book. I believe almost every track on that CD is very listenable...I played it to death on both cross country trips I have been on.

I'm hoping I am never at an event that MoP has the keys to the DJ booth.

 

[saintfool]

public enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back" is musical napalm. it rocks harder than pretty much everything listed. songwriting? check. great beats? check. attitude? check.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Metallica-Black Album (Self Titled)This came out in 1991 and had a very long shelf life...from Enter Sandman to Wherever I May Roam to The Unforgiven to Nothing Else Matters...this a,bum also launched a very lengthy World Tour where they eventually played with the band you started the thread about. I love AfD and probably listen to that more than Metallica. With AfD, it's the songs that weren't played on the radio like Its So Easy, Nighttrain, Rocket Queen...I'm not sure anything can top it. Just for more conversation, I would also throw Tom Petty, Full Moon Fever...it has some pretty awesome songs, albeit not quite as hard rock as GnR and Metallica, but Running Down a Dream and Won't Back Down are pretty kick ### in my book. I believe almost every track on that CD is very listenable...I played it to death on both cross country trips I have been on.

This album doesn't come close..

 

[Dought Man]

Does RHCP's Blood Sugar Sex Magik have a chance here? I'm guessing not with this crowd, but I thought I'd throw it in the ring.

I always thought RHCP captured something special on that album, along with a laundry list of STD's.

 

[Red Eyed and Blue]

public enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back" is musical napalm. it rocks harder than pretty much everything listed. songwriting? check. great beats? check. attitude? check.

Is this the album that had the collaboration with Anthrax?

 

[TheFanatic]

I remember being like 16 or 17 years old and I had tickets to see Aerosmith and it's announced that GnR is opening up for them. Sweet Child of mine was out on MTV, but that was it in terms of GnR. I hated Sweet Child. Couldn't stand it. But they were opening for Aerosmith so I bought the tape, yeah the tape. I fell in love with that album and Sweet Child. I was blown away by that album

I remember walking into the concert a few weeks later and there's Duff standing outside the bus smoking a cigarette shooting the breeze with some various passers by. I walked within 5 feet of the guy.

I went back to see them for the Use Your Illusion Tour. Remember that great album split into two really ####ty albums? They played about 6 songs, Axel threw a fit, stormed off the stage and the concert turned into a riot which resulted in the local fire department hosing down the crowd to get them to disburse. Saw a guy running with Slash's guitar. If that guy wasn't 6'6" and 320 I would've had that guitar....Good times...

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Metallica-Black Album (Self Titled)

This came out in 1991 and had a very long shelf life...from Enter Sandman to Wherever I May Roam to The Unforgiven to Nothing Else Matters...this a,bum also launched a very lengthy World Tour where they eventually played with the band you started the thread about.

I love AfD and probably listen to that more than Metallica. With AfD, it's the songs that weren't played on the radio like Its So Easy, Nighttrain, Rocket Queen...I'm not sure anything can top it.

Just for more conversation, I would also throw Tom Petty, Full Moon Fever...it has some pretty awesome songs, albeit not quite as hard rock as GnR and Metallica, but Running Down a Dream and Won't Back Down are pretty kick ### in my book. I believe almost every track on that CD is very listenable...I played it to death on both cross country trips I have been on.

I'm hoping I am never at an event that MoP has the keys to the DJ booth.

You wouldn't put AfD and Metallica's Black album in the same conversation?

 

[Abraham]

Best album ever. No discussion. I'm like Fanatic, I hated Sweet Child at first but grew to love the entire rest of the album. The turning point for me was when MTV broadcast a live show recorded at the Whisky. Simply awesome band and album.

 

[saintfool]

public enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back" is musical napalm. it rocks harder than pretty much everything listed. songwriting? check. great beats? check. attitude? check.

Is this the album that had the collaboration with Anthrax?

anthrax did a remix with PE on it...

 

[Red Eyed and Blue]

Soundgarden's Superunknown nearly flawless save for the awful "Spoonman"...

 

[Abraham]

You wouldn't put AfD and Metallica's Black album in the same conversation?

Not unless that conversation was about how one album can be as awesome as another album is bad.

 

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AFD is the best hard rock album ever

 

[Red Eyed and Blue]

public enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back" is musical napalm. it rocks harder than pretty much everything listed. songwriting? check. great beats? check. attitude? check.

Is this the album that had the collaboration with Anthrax?

anthrax did a remix with PE on it...

"Bass, how low can you go...."God, I haven't heard that song in years. Good choice, with PE. I need to dig out some of their music. It's been over a decade since I listened to them.

 

[saintfool]

public enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back" is musical napalm. it rocks harder than pretty much everything listed. songwriting? check. great beats? check. attitude? check.

Is this the album that had the collaboration with Anthrax?

anthrax did a remix with PE on it...

"Bass, how low can you go...."God, I haven't heard that song in years. Good choice, with PE. I need to dig out some of their music. It's been over a decade since I listened to them.

i listen to "fear of a black planet" pretty regularly and it holds up really well. paired with "it takes a nation...", these might be the best 1-2 punch in music. they are just lights out fantastic.ETA: i still get chills listening to "welcome to the terrordome". it never gets old.

 

[Abraham]

public enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us back" is musical napalm. it rocks harder than pretty much everything listed. songwriting? check. great beats? check. attitude? check.

Is this the album that had the collaboration with Anthrax?

anthrax did a remix with PE on it...

"Bass, how low can you go...."God, I haven't heard that song in years. Good choice, with PE. I need to dig out some of their music. It's been over a decade since I listened to them.

i listen to "fear of a black planet" pretty regularly and it holds up really well. paired with "it takes a nation...", these might be the best 1-2 punch in music. they are just lights out fantastic.

Best 1-2 punch in music (albums released one after another)1. AfD, Lies - GNR2. Gentlemen, Black Love - Afghan Whigs3. Being THere, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - Wilco4. Strangers Almanac, Pneumonia - Whiskeytown

 

[Reg Lllama of Brixton]

AFD is the best hard rock album ever

I would put Van Halen I over it if it wasn't for that stupid Ice Cream Man song.

 

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You wouldn't put AfD and Metallica's Black album in the same conversation?

Not unless that conversation was about how one album can be as awesome as another album is bad.

The Black Album is decent but it's not even Metallica's best album.... or second best... or maybe even 3rd best...