Gold Glove winners (1 Viewer)

[shadyridr]

I'm one of those guys who thinks you have to watch a player play defense to see how good he is. Therefore, I think I will get ripped by some of these picks by the stats guys but Im interested in hearing your opinions. Since I dont watch the NL as much Ill hold off on picking GG winners from that league:

C- Mauer

1B- Kotchman

2B- Cano

3B- Chavez

SS- Betancourt

OF- Crisp, Hunter, Ichiro

P- who the hell knows

 

[ack34]

I'm one of those guys who thinks you have to watch a player play defense to see how good he is. Therefore, I think I will get ripped by some of these picks by the stats guys but Im interested in hearing your opinions. Since I dont watch the NL as much Ill hold off on picking GG winners from that league:C- Mauer1B- Kotchman2B- Cano3B- ChavezSS- BetancourtOF- Crisp, Hunter, IchiroP- who the hell knows

John MacDonald in Toronto has been unreal defensively at short this year.

 

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1B - Youkilis

128 Games

1034 Chances

0 Errors (dating back to mid last year)

Range Factor : 8.91

1B - Kotchman

116 Games

943 Chances

2 Errors

Range Factor 9.10

Given the debateable nature of Range Factor, coupled with the closeness of the numbers.... Youk should win the Gold Glove at First.. he's not made an error over there in a year and a half and has made some spectacular diving plays and digs.

 

[shadyridr]

I'm one of those guys who thinks you have to watch a player play defense to see how good he is. Therefore, I think I will get ripped by some of these picks by the stats guys but Im interested in hearing your opinions. Since I dont watch the NL as much Ill hold off on picking GG winners from that league:C- Mauer1B- Kotchman2B- Cano3B- ChavezSS- BetancourtOF- Crisp, Hunter, IchiroP- who the hell knows

John MacDonald in Toronto has been unreal defensively at short this year.

I agree. He has been. We cannot forget about Orlando Cabrera either. He'll probably end up winning it (or Jeter) but I was really impressed by Yuniesky.

 

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I'm one of those guys who thinks you have to watch a player play defense to see how good he is. Therefore, I think I will get ripped by some of these picks by the stats guys but Im interested in hearing your opinions. Since I dont watch the NL as much Ill hold off on picking GG winners from that league:C- Mauer1B- Kotchman2B- Cano3B- ChavezSS- BetancourtOF- Crisp, Hunter, IchiroP- who the hell knows

You do realize Cano is tied for the league LEAD in Errors by a 2B, right? Not sure how you plan on giving him a Gold Glove.

 

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I agree. He has been. We cannot forget about Orlando Cabrera either. He'll probably end up winning it (or Jeter) but I was really impressed by Yuniesky.

Dude.. you gotta lay off the pinstripe pudding. Jeter has 16 errors while having the lowest Range Factor of any starting AL shortstop who has started over 100 games. Again, while the stat isn't THAT reliable, it's common knowledge among anyone without a NY on their hat that the guy can't get to many balls that aren't hit right at him and still manages to boot a pretty good chunk of those.

 

[rascal]

Tulo of the rockies deserves some serious consideration for this award and ROY.

 

[shadyridr]

I agree. He has been. We cannot forget about Orlando Cabrera either. He'll probably end up winning it (or Jeter) but I was really impressed by Yuniesky.

Dude.. you gotta lay off the pinstripe pudding. Jeter has 16 errors while having the lowest Range Factor of any starting AL shortstop who has started over 100 games. Again, while the stat isn't THAT reliable, it's common knowledge among anyone without a NY on their hat that the guy can't get to many balls that aren't hit right at him and still manages to boot a pretty good chunk of those.

Where did I say Jeter deserved the GG in any of this thread?

 

[shadyridr]

I'm one of those guys who thinks you have to watch a player play defense to see how good he is. Therefore, I think I will get ripped by some of these picks by the stats guys but Im interested in hearing your opinions. Since I dont watch the NL as much Ill hold off on picking GG winners from that league:C- Mauer1B- Kotchman2B- Cano3B- ChavezSS- BetancourtOF- Crisp, Hunter, IchiroP- who the hell knows

You do realize Cano is tied for the league LEAD in Errors by a 2B, right? Not sure how you plan on giving him a Gold Glove.

Couldnt really think of any 2B that stood out to me and Cano has been phenomenal at 2B this year. Shows impressive range. He does tend to lose concentration occasionally as most of his errors come in bunches in one game.

 

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I agree. He has been. We cannot forget about Orlando Cabrera either. He'll probably end up winning it (or Jeter) but I was really impressed by Yuniesky.

Dude.. you gotta lay off the pinstripe pudding. Jeter has 16 errors while having the lowest Range Factor of any starting AL shortstop who has started over 100 games. Again, while the stat isn't THAT reliable, it's common knowledge among anyone without a NY on their hat that the guy can't get to many balls that aren't hit right at him and still manages to boot a pretty good chunk of those.

Where did I say Jeter deserved the GG in any of this thread?

Sorry just saw your mention of him (see larger point size type above). If you think he might win just on name recognition then that's cool. He's been good this year but isn't a GG candidate IMHO.

 

[shadyridr]

I agree. He has been. We cannot forget about Orlando Cabrera either. He'll probably end up winning it (or Jeter) but I was really impressed by Yuniesky.

Dude.. you gotta lay off the pinstripe pudding. Jeter has 16 errors while having the lowest Range Factor of any starting AL shortstop who has started over 100 games. Again, while the stat isn't THAT reliable, it's common knowledge among anyone without a NY on their hat that the guy can't get to many balls that aren't hit right at him and still manages to boot a pretty good chunk of those.

Where did I say Jeter deserved the GG in any of this thread?

Sorry just saw your mention of him (see larger point size type above). If you think he might win just on name recognition then that's cool. He's been good this year but isn't a GG candidate IMHO.

He won the last 2 years when he didnt deserve it.

 

[DoubleG]

Just remember - when GG voting is close, look at the hitting stats.

 

[wilked]

lmao at Cano and Jeter's names even getting mentioned in this thread

Polanco should win at 2B. Here are mine

AMERICAN LEAGUE

c-Kenji Jojhima

1b-Kevin Youkillis

2b-Placido Polanco

3b-Eric Chavez

ss-Orlando Cabrera

of-Ichiro Suzuki

of-Torii Hunter

of-Coco Crisp

p-Mark Buerhle

 

[shadyridr]

lmao at Cano and Jeter's names even getting mentioned in this thread

Polanco should win at 2B. Here are mine

AMERICAN LEAGUE

c-Kenji Jojhima

1b-Kevin Youkillis

2b-Placido Polanco

3b-Eric Chavez

ss-Orlando Cabrera

of-Ichiro Suzuki

of-Torii Hunter

of-Coco Crisp

p-Mark Buerhle

Yanks were running on him like he had no arms

 

[wilked]

lmao at Cano and Jeter's names even getting mentioned in this thread

Polanco should win at 2B. Here are mine

AMERICAN LEAGUE

c-Kenji Jojhima

1b-Kevin Youkillis

2b-Placido Polanco

3b-Eric Chavez

ss-Orlando Cabrera

of-Ichiro Suzuki

of-Torii Hunter

of-Coco Crisp

p-Mark Buerhle

Yanks were running on him like he had no arms

Well, the Yankees are just that good that they can run on anyone, obviouslyCheck the numbers, Jojhima has caught about half the people that tried to steal on him. He is the clear fav in my opinion for GG. Mauer has done well also, but didn't play enough

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/9/9/12...edm_fa23098.jpg

Side note: Tek has been crazy busy catching pop ups this year...

 

[ack34]

A-Rod should get a nod as well...from what I understand, he's been very good over there.

 

[wilked]

A-Rod should get a nod as well...from what I understand, he's been very good over there.

True...good communication on popups, with a clear and loud 'I GOT IT!'

 

[shadyridr]

A-Rod should get a nod as well...from what I understand, he's been very good over there.

True...good communication on popups, with a clear and loud 'I GOT IT!'

So is this where you insult all Yankees and commend all Sox?

 

[shadyridr]

A-Rod should get a nod as well...from what I understand, he's been very good over there.

He has had an excellent year at 3B but nobody in the AL is better than Chavez.

 

[wilked]

A-Rod should get a nod as well...from what I understand, he's been very good over there.

True...good communication on popups, with a clear and loud 'I GOT IT!'

So is this where you insult all Yankees and commend all Sox?

dude, that was just a joke...take it easy...

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

No love for Curtis Granderson?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

I'm one of those guys who thinks you have to watch a player play defense to see how good he is. Therefore, I think I will get ripped by some of these picks by the stats guys but Im interested in hearing your opinions. Since I dont watch the NL as much Ill hold off on picking GG winners from that league:C- Mauer1B- Kotchman2B- Cano3B- ChavezSS- BetancourtOF- Crisp, Hunter, IchiroP- who the hell knows

You do realize Cano is tied for the league LEAD in Errors by a 2B, right? Not sure how you plan on giving him a Gold Glove.

Couldnt really think of any 2B that stood out to me and Cano has been phenomenal at 2B this year. Shows impressive range. He does tend to lose concentration occasionally as most of his errors come in bunches in one game.

Polanco doesn't have an error this year.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

No love for Curtis Granderson?

Crisp is the only one of the group of Hunter, Ichiro, and Crisp that has a better range factor than Granderson and Granderson has more assists than any of them. Granderson also has 6 errors.Crisp and Ichiro should get GGsHunter probably will get the third on reputation but Granderson should be considered.

 

[shadyridr]

I'm one of those guys who thinks you have to watch a player play defense to see how good he is. Therefore, I think I will get ripped by some of these picks by the stats guys but Im interested in hearing your opinions. Since I dont watch the NL as much Ill hold off on picking GG winners from that league:C- Mauer1B- Kotchman2B- Cano3B- ChavezSS- BetancourtOF- Crisp, Hunter, IchiroP- who the hell knows

You do realize Cano is tied for the league LEAD in Errors by a 2B, right? Not sure how you plan on giving him a Gold Glove.

Couldnt really think of any 2B that stood out to me and Cano has been phenomenal at 2B this year. Shows impressive range. He does tend to lose concentration occasionally as most of his errors come in bunches in one game.

Polanco doesn't have an error this year.

Actually he does but the scorer "changed his mind".

 

[Jules Winnfield]

No love for Curtis Granderson?

Crisp is the only one of the group of Hunter, Ichiro, and Crisp that has a better range factor than Granderson and Granderson has more assists than any of them. Granderson also has 6 errors.Crisp and Ichiro should get GGsHunter probably will get the third on reputation but Granderson should be considered.

I like the reasoning except for assists.More assists mean a lot more runners are running on youThat means they really don't respect your armHow many guys ran on Dewey, Armas, Valentine, Parker, Barfield, Winfield...?Nothing but -4 and -5 in there

 

[pigskin pimp]

I'm one of those guys who thinks you have to watch a player play defense to see how good he is. Therefore, I think I will get ripped by some of these picks by the stats guys but Im interested in hearing your opinions. Since I dont watch the NL as much Ill hold off on picking GG winners from that league:C- Mauer1B- Kotchman2B- Cano3B- ChavezSS- BetancourtOF- Crisp, Hunter, IchiroP- who the hell knows

You do realize Cano is tied for the league LEAD in Errors by a 2B, right? Not sure how you plan on giving him a Gold Glove.

I just saw that and had a half laugh/half gag reflex when I saw him post that. Cano is a butcher.

 

[pigskin pimp]

I'm one of those guys who thinks you have to watch a player play defense to see how good he is. Therefore, I think I will get ripped by some of these picks by the stats guys but Im interested in hearing your opinions. Since I dont watch the NL as much Ill hold off on picking GG winners from that league:C- Mauer1B- Kotchman2B- Cano3B- ChavezSS- BetancourtOF- Crisp, Hunter, IchiroP- who the hell knows

You have 2 Twins listed. But not the right ones.Hunter is good, real good, but his play this year in CF has been some of the worst I've seen from him since his rookie year.Mauer should be given consideration, but hasn't endured a full year behind the plate.The Twins should have 2 GG winners, though.At 1B, Justin Morneau. The guy has improved his game in the field tremendously. The guy is coming up with everything. Diving left, right, saving doubles. Scooping. You name it. I've been more than impressed with Morneau's defense. He's more deserving of a GG this year, than he was of a MVP last year.At P, Johan Santana. This guy would already have had one or two GGs if Kenny Rogers wasn't in the league. Well, this year, Rogers has been hurt and it's time to give Santana his due as one of the top fielding pitchers in the game.

 

[whoknew]

I'm one of those guys who thinks you have to watch a player play defense to see how good he is. Therefore, I think I will get ripped by some of these picks by the stats guys but Im interested in hearing your opinions. Since I dont watch the NL as much Ill hold off on picking GG winners from that league:C- Mauer1B- Kotchman2B- Cano3B- ChavezSS- BetancourtOF- Crisp, Hunter, IchiroP- who the hell knows

You do realize Cano is tied for the league LEAD in Errors by a 2B, right? Not sure how you plan on giving him a Gold Glove.

Couldnt really think of any 2B that stood out to me and Cano has been phenomenal at 2B this year. Shows impressive range. He does tend to lose concentration occasionally as most of his errors come in bunches in one game.

If Polanco doesn't win the GG at 2b -- well, the GG voters have already shown the award is a joke, so really it'd just be par for the course.

 

[Greco]

3B...Brandon Inge.

 

[shadyridr]

I'm one of those guys who thinks you have to watch a player play defense to see how good he is. Therefore, I think I will get ripped by some of these picks by the stats guys but Im interested in hearing your opinions. Since I dont watch the NL as much Ill hold off on picking GG winners from that league:C- Mauer1B- Kotchman2B- Cano3B- ChavezSS- BetancourtOF- Crisp, Hunter, IchiroP- who the hell knows

You do realize Cano is tied for the league LEAD in Errors by a 2B, right? Not sure how you plan on giving him a Gold Glove.

I just saw that and had a half laugh/half gag reflex when I saw him post that. Cano is a butcher.

He may not be gold glove material but no way in hell is Cano a butcher. Knoblauch and Soriano, those guys were butchers. Cano is smooth as anyone at 2B. Just so happens he loses concentration in some games. Typical of somebody who doesnt watch every game to say hes a butcher. And I agree, Polanco should most definitely be the GG at 2B. Somehow he slipped my mind.

 

[tikigods]

1B - Youkilis128 Games1034 Chances0 Errors (dating back to mid last year)Range Factor : 8.911B - Kotchman116 Games943 Chances2 ErrorsRange Factor 9.10 Given the debateable nature of Range Factor, coupled with the closeness of the numbers.... Youk should win the Gold Glove at First.. he's not made an error over there in a year and a half and has made some spectacular diving plays and digs.

Youk has made ZERO errors at first base this season. This is referred to as a

 

[Snotbubbles]

I'm one of those guys who thinks you have to watch a player play defense to see how good he is. Therefore, I think I will get ripped by some of these picks by the stats guys but Im interested in hearing your opinions. Since I dont watch the NL as much Ill hold off on picking GG winners from that league:C- Mauer1B- Kotchman2B- Cano3B- ChavezSS- BetancourtOF- Crisp, Hunter, IchiroP- who the hell knows

You do realize Cano is tied for the league LEAD in Errors by a 2B, right? Not sure how you plan on giving him a Gold Glove.

Couldnt really think of any 2B that stood out to me and Cano has been phenomenal at 2B this year. Shows impressive range. He does tend to lose concentration occasionally as most of his errors come in bunches in one game.

If Polanco doesn't win the GG at 2b -- well, the GG voters have already shown the award is a joke, so really it'd just be par for the course.

When Bobby Abreu has a gold glove, how can you take the award seriously?

 

[whoknew]

I'm one of those guys who thinks you have to watch a player play defense to see how good he is. Therefore, I think I will get ripped by some of these picks by the stats guys but Im interested in hearing your opinions. Since I dont watch the NL as much Ill hold off on picking GG winners from that league:C- Mauer1B- Kotchman2B- Cano3B- ChavezSS- BetancourtOF- Crisp, Hunter, IchiroP- who the hell knows

You do realize Cano is tied for the league LEAD in Errors by a 2B, right? Not sure how you plan on giving him a Gold Glove.

Couldnt really think of any 2B that stood out to me and Cano has been phenomenal at 2B this year. Shows impressive range. He does tend to lose concentration occasionally as most of his errors come in bunches in one game.

Nice play on that ball by Cano.

 

[Vitruvian Man]

I'll take a stab at the NL:

C- Russel Martin

1B- Todd Helton

2B- Kaz Matsui

3B- Ryan Zimmerman

SS- Troy Tulowitzki

OF- Jeff Francoeur, Alfonso Soriano, Aaron Rowand

P- probably Greg Maddux (again)

I will admit I'm a huge Rockies fan, and that may slant my input, but I don't think 3GGs from the all-time best fielding team is unreasonable. My only question is w/ Matsui- I don't know if there is a minimum games played requirement for the GG, and Matsui spent some time on the DL.

Fee free to tear the list apart.

 

[the moops]

AL

C-Mauer

1B-Youks

2B-Polanco

3B-Lowell

SS-Not sure?

OF-Granderson, Crisp, Ichiro

 

[Doctor Detroit]

C- Johjima

1B- Youkilis or Morneau

2B- Polanco

SS- Uribe

3B- Mora

OF- Granderson, Ichiro, Crisp

P- McGowan

 

[5steeler5]

I'll take a stab at the NL:C- Russel Martin1B- Todd Helton2B- Kaz Matsui3B- Ryan ZimmermanSS- Troy TulowitzkiOF- Jeff Francoeur, Alfonso Soriano, Aaron RowandP- probably Greg Maddux (again)I will admit I'm a huge Rockies fan, and that may slant my input, but I don't think 3GGs from the all-time best fielding team is unreasonable. My only question is w/ Matsui- I don't know if there is a minimum games played requirement for the GG, and Matsui spent some time on the DL.Fee free to tear the list apart.

I disagree with your pick for 2B. I think that should go hands down to Brandon Phillips. I watched a majority of his games this year and the plays that he made were unbelievable on a consistent basis. I can not imagine anyone playing a better 2B defensively this year. He missed only 6 games the entire year and had 8 errors... most of the balls that he made an error on were balls that alot of guys dont even get to. The rest of your picks I think are spot on with the exception of possibly soriano... I could see Austin Kearns making a push for the final GG in the outfield.. He doesnt have the Assists that soriano has (9 to sori's 19) but he played in 25 more games, had 4 fewer errors, and had a .995 fielding percentage to sori's .980

 

[JohnDoe]

Here are the AL Winners:

C Pudge

1B Kevin Youkliss

2B Placido Polanco

3B Adrian Beltre

SS Orlando Cabrera

OF Torii Hunter

OF Ichiro

OF Grady Sizemore

P Johan Santana

Link

 

[posty]

Could have posted the NL as well:

C: Russell Martin, LA

1B: Derrek Lee, CHC

2B: Orlando Hudson, ARI

3B: David Wright, NYM

SS: Jimmy Rollins, PHI

OF: Aaron Rowand, PHI

OF: Andruw Jones, ATL

OF: Carlos Beltran, NYM

OF: Jeff Francoeur, ATL

P: Greg Maddux, SD

 

[wilked]

Johjima and Crisp got robbed...

 

[shadyridr]

David Wright

 

[Koya]

David Wright

What a lark. They need to get rid of this award, because apparantly real life production has NOTHING to do with earning a gold glove. Wright has some nice plays, and he has a WHOLE BUNCH of bad ones, at third. Terrible, terrible choice for GG.

 

[encaitar]

How do the Rockies break the Major League record for team fielding percentage without having at least one gold glove winner? It's clear their defense got them to the playoffs. This award is a popularity contest, nothing more.

 

[Vladislav Tretiak]

Here are the AL Winners:

C Pudge

1B Kevin Youkliss

2B Placido Polanco

3B Adrian Beltre

SS Orlando Cabrera

OF Torii Hunter

OF Ichiro

OF Grady Sizemore

P Johan Santana

Link

Pudge again???This award has truly become a popularity contest.

 

[oso diablo]

fwiw, here are the leaders in fielding win shares for the NL

C - Chris Snyder (Martin was 2nd)

1B - Lee

2B - B. Phillips (by a nose over Hudson)

3B - Zimmerman (by a mile. Wright is 3rd)

SS - Tulowitzki (by a league; rollins was 9th!)

OF - Andruw Jones, Chris Young, and a tie between Carlos Beltran and Jacque Jones

P - my source did not list fielding WS for pitchers

Worst pick has to be Rollins over Tulowitzki, followed by Wright over Zimmerman.

 

[oso diablo]

and here are the AL leaders in fielding WinShares...

C - Johjima (easily)

1B - Youkilis

2B - Marcus Ellis (Polanco was only 5th)

3B - Mike Lowell (Beltre was 9th)

SS - Juan Uribe (by a hair over Orlando Cabrera)

OF - Coco Crisp (far & away the leader among OF), Vernon Wells, and Curtis Granderson

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Here are the AL Winners:

C Pudge

1B Kevin Youkliss

2B Placido Polanco

3B Adrian Beltre

SS Orlando Cabrera

OF Torii Hunter

OF Ichiro

OF Grady Sizemore

P Johan Santana

Link

Pudge again???This award has truly become a popularity contest.

Pudge absolutely didn't deserve it and Granderson and Crisp did. Grady Sizemore winning shows it's a popularity contest which really sucks. Pudge was terrible this year.

 

[Pat Patriot]

Why did the NL get 4 OF's? Tie?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Yadier Molina got totally robbed. He was easily the best defensive catcher in the National League. What a joke.

 

[guru_007]

David Wright

What a lark. They need to get rid of this award, because apparantly real life production has NOTHING to do with earning a gold glove. Wright has some nice plays, and he has a WHOLE BUNCH of bad ones, at third. Terrible, terrible choice for GG.

agree....when I heard Wright won I thought someone was joking.Then I heard Rollins at SS....and I thought to myself, didn't Colorado have a pretty good defensive shortstop? Hell, Khalil Greene may be a better fielder than Rollins.Gold Glove award is pretty useless.