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[Encyclopedia Brown]

I flushed it down the toilet. What was I supposed to do?

Not that, Karen.

 

[Brady Marino]

Is Hendry's brother still stirring the sauce?

All he's done all day is look at helicopters and tomato sauce.

Walt Jr. is way better at those things.

"GUUUUUUSSSSSSS....like, how long do you stir your dipping sauces?"

 

[Raider Nation]

Were those guys in the storefront going to kill Karen on Jimmy's orders if she went in, or is she just being paranoid? I've been going back and forth on this for 20 years.

 

[Premier]

Were those guys in the storefront going to kill Karen on Jimmy's orders if she went in, or is she just being paranoid? I've been going back and forth on this for 20 years.

Kill, for sure. Why else would he care that much?

 

[Raider Nation]

Were those guys in the storefront going to kill Karen on Jimmy's orders if she went in, or is she just being paranoid? I've been going back and forth on this for 20 years.

Kill, for sure. Why else would he care that much?

But when she walks down there, the guys don't appear to be "waiting" for her. They are doing other things.That's why it's unclear to me.

 

[Premier]

Were those guys in the storefront going to kill Karen on Jimmy's orders if she went in, or is she just being paranoid? I've been going back and forth on this for 20 years.

Kill, for sure. Why else would he care that much?

But when she walks down there, the guys don't appear to be "waiting" for her. They are doing other things.That's why it's unclear to me.

I mean, it's not like they fire off a couple of practice rounds to get ready or anything. They probably have a regular job that they were doing. Same idea as the butchers who throw a body into the sausage.

 

[Raider Nation]

Were those guys in the storefront going to kill Karen on Jimmy's orders if she went in, or is she just being paranoid? I've been going back and forth on this for 20 years.

Kill, for sure. Why else would he care that much?

But when she walks down there, the guys don't appear to be "waiting" for her. They are doing other things.That's why it's unclear to me.

I mean, it's not like they fire off a couple of practice rounds to get ready or anything. They probably have a regular job that they were doing. Same idea as the butchers who throw a body into the sausage.

Seems like Jimmy could have just done it himself. He was no stranger to getting his hands dirty. Funny, I just did a quick Google search on whether Jimmy intended to kill Karen or not, and it would seem I'm not the only one who is unsure about it. There are tons of threads on various boards asking the same thing.

The opinions seem to run 50/50.

One example: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=900934

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Egg noodles with ketchup.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

What would be Jimmy's incentive to kill Karen? He doesn't want Henry to know that he is suspicious. If Karen suddenly disappeared, Henry would obviously know who the culprit was, and know that he was next, and so would have no other recourse but to become an informant--which is the last thing Jimmy would want.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

On a sidenote, pretty good viewing night for De Niro.

"Midnight Run" is on HBO Comedy.

"Mean Streets" is on HBO Zone in an hour.

(Didn't see a listing for "Stanley & Iris".

 

[Ghost Rider]

Were those guys in the storefront going to kill Karen on Jimmy's orders if she went in, or is she just being paranoid? I've been going back and forth on this for 20 years.

Kill, for sure. Why else would he care that much?

But when she walks down there, the guys don't appear to be "waiting" for her. They are doing other things.That's why it's unclear to me.

Yep, I think it is supposed to be left open to interpretation, but it is worth pointing out that when she gets as close as she gets, you can barely hear one of the guys shush the others, almost like they were waiting for her or something.

 

[Raider Nation]

Were those guys in the storefront going to kill Karen on Jimmy's orders if she went in, or is she just being paranoid? I've been going back and forth on this for 20 years.

Kill, for sure. Why else would he care that much?

But when she walks down there, the guys don't appear to be "waiting" for her. They are doing other things.That's why it's unclear to me.

Yep, I think it is supposed to be left open to interpretation, but it is worth pointing out that when she gets as close as she gets, you can barely hear one of the guys shush the others, almost like they were waiting for her or something.

OR... they didn't know who the hell she was and they didn't want to call attention to their illicit activity.

 

[Insein]

Were those guys in the storefront going to kill Karen on Jimmy's orders if she went in, or is she just being paranoid? I've been going back and forth on this for 20 years.

Kill, for sure. Why else would he care that much?

But when she walks down there, the guys don't appear to be "waiting" for her. They are doing other things.That's why it's unclear to me.

Yep, I think it is supposed to be left open to interpretation, but it is worth pointing out that when she gets as close as she gets, you can barely hear one of the guys shush the others, almost like they were waiting for her or something.

OR... they didn't know who the hell she was and they didn't want to call attention to their illicit activity.

Which if they were doing illicit activity, Jimmy would have known and not needed to tell them to kill here. Now if she just so happened to stumble upon them and they just so happened to say rape and kill her, it wouldn't have had anything to do with Jimmy. That was my interpretation. He knew what those guys did in there but wasn't a part of it. Karen had a timely bout of paranoia that most likely saved her life.

 

[shuke]

Were those guys in the storefront going to kill Karen on Jimmy's orders if she went in, or is she just being paranoid? I've been going back and forth on this for 20 years.

Kill, for sure. Why else would he care that much?

But when she walks down there, the guys don't appear to be "waiting" for her. They are doing other things.That's why it's unclear to me.

I mean, it's not like they fire off a couple of practice rounds to get ready or anything. They probably have a regular job that they were doing. Same idea as the butchers who throw a body into the sausage.

Seems like Jimmy could have just done it himself. He was no stranger to getting his hands dirty. Funny, I just did a quick Google search on whether Jimmy intended to kill Karen or not, and it would seem I'm not the only one who is unsure about it. There are tons of threads on various boards asking the same thing.

The opinions seem to run 50/50.

One example: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=900934

It's ambiguous for a reason. If I recall correctly from Nicholas Pileggi's book, when this happened in real life, "Karen" wasn't sure if "Jimmy" was going to kill her, but had a strong feeling about it. It could have just been their paranoia at that point.

 

[joffer]

Always thought that part was vague on purpose

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

It's ambiguous for a reason. If I recall correctly from Nicholas Pileggi's book, when this happened in real life, "Karen" wasn't sure if "Jimmy" was going to kill her, but had a strong feeling about it. It could have just been their paranoia at that point.

This argument is also problematic because of the discrepancies between the book and the film.In the book, Karen leans on the side that Jimmy was simply kind of a pervert who was just trying to scare her. She mentions about maybe being killed, but it wasn't her first thought.What is totally glossed over in the movie is her and Paulie having an affair when Henry was locked up for trying to dump that dude into the lion's den.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Were those guys in the storefront going to kill Karen on Jimmy's orders if she went in, or is she just being paranoid? I've been going back and forth on this for 20 years.

Kill, for sure. Why else would he care that much?

But when she walks down there, the guys don't appear to be "waiting" for her. They are doing other things.That's why it's unclear to me.

Yep, I think it is supposed to be left open to interpretation, but it is worth pointing out that when she gets as close as she gets, you can barely hear one of the guys shush the others, almost like they were waiting for her or something.

OR... they didn't know who the hell she was and they didn't want to call attention to their illicit activity.

Yep. Which is why the ambiguity of it is great.

 

[Raider Nation]

Ohhhh Jimmy!

QUEENS — The FBI began digging for a body Monday in the former Queens home of notorious mob power James “Jimmy The Gent” Burke, who was famously portrayed by Robert De Niro in the movie "Goodfellas," sources told DNAinfo New York.

FBI Evidence Collection specialists and agents from the Organized Crime Division descended into the basement of Burke’s family home at 81-48 102 Rd. in South Ozone Park around 8 a.m. armed with jackhammers and sledge hammers.

Sources said the feds recently obtained information from a new cooperating informant linked to the Gambino and Bonanno crime families who told them he believed a hood who disappeared decades ago was buried in Burke’s basement or backyard.

The sources say the dig is not related the fabled 1978 Lufthansa Heist, where Burke, portrayed as Jimmy Conway by De Niro in "Goodfellas," and his fellow wiseguys pulled off an $8 million robbery at JFK, which at the time was the largest robbery in history and was featured in the film.

Many of the suspects eventually were murdered.

Only the body of Burke's closest friend, Thomas DeSimone, who was played by actor Joe Pesci, has never been found, but sources say they are not looking for his remains at Burke’s home.

Burke died in prison in 1996, after he was convicted of being involved in a Boston College basketball point shaving scandal and for a mob murder in Brooklyn.

The house is still in Burke's family. His widow continued to live there after his death for an undetermined amount of time.

The house is in the name of one of Burke’s daughters, Cathy, who is married to Bruno Indelicato, the imprisoned son of slain Bonanno capo, Sonny “Sonny Red” Indelicato, sources say and records show.

A neighbor named Jim, 73, who declined to give his last name, said he has lived on the block for more than 40 years, but didn't know Burke, a powerful mob associate who was never able to be fully inducted into la cosa nostra because he was not 100 percent Italian.

When Jim returned home early in the afternoon to see FBI gear and tarps set up next door.

"I just came down the block and there's a circus going on," he said.

In the seminal 1990 movie directed by Martin Scorcese, Burke's home plays a key role in his crew's plans to steal a roomful of cash and jewels from nearby JFK airport.

The flick's mob characters was made famous by the stellar cast of Hollywood stars, which also included Ray Liotta, Lorraine Bracco and Samuel Jackson.

The movie was based on the 1990 book by author Nick Pileggi, who detailed the exploits of mob turncoat, Henry Hill, and a Gambino Crime Family crew run by Paul Vario, who was played by actor Paul Sorvino.

In the aftermath of the real heist, Burke executed many of the other conspirators in an effort to shield himself from the law. But he was eventually convicted by the feds in the college point-shaving scandal that allowed the Mob to win millions on the rigged games.

He then was sent to state prison where he eventually died in connection with the Brooklyn mob-related killing of, Richard Eaton. Eaton was not involved in the Lufthansa heist, but was tortured and murdered by Burke after skimming $250,000 from Burke's operation.

His body was discovered hogtied and hanging in a meat freezer truck.

 

[joffer]

Thought it was Lucchese family, not Gambino

 

[Gr00vus]

The flick's mob characters was made famous by the stellar cast of Hollywood stars, which also included Ray Liotta, Lorraine Bracco and Samuel Jackson.

I think the author of the article is getting a little to close to his subject.

 

[Chaka]

Samuel L. Jackson

 

[Raider Nation]

Samuel L. Jackson

He took a bullet in the head like nobody else.

 

[drummer]

Thought it was Lucchese family, not Gambino

Yeah, I thought it was too.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Samuel L. Jackson

He took a bullet in the head like nobody else.

While wearing some, um, interesting underpants.

 

[Raider Nation]

Samuel L. Jackson

He took a bullet in the head like nobody else.

While wearing some, um, interesting underpants.

Make dat coffee to go, c'mon.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

Eaton was not involved in the Lufthansa heist, but was tortured and murdered by Burke after skimming $250,000 from Burke's operation.

His body was discovered hogtied and hanging in a meat freezer truck.

I thought that guy's name was Carbone, and he was involved.

 

[RBM]

Samuel L. Jackson

He took a bullet in the head like nobody else.

While wearing some, um, interesting underpants.

Make dat coffee to go, c'mon.

Whaddya gonna take the coffee pot

 

[Nikki2200]

Were those guys in the storefront going to kill Karen on Jimmy's orders if she went in, or is she just being paranoid? I've been going back and forth on this for 20 years.

Kill, for sure. Why else would he care that much?

They could have killed her at any time if that's what they wanted to do though. Why the elaborate ruse about going into the store?

I think she was just being paranoid.

 

[Raider Nation]

Eaton was not involved in the Lufthansa heist, but was tortured and murdered by Burke after skimming $250,000 from Burke's operation.

His body was discovered hogtied and hanging in a meat freezer truck.

I thought that guy's name was Carbone, and he was involved.

They took some liberties in the movie. In fact, I'm reading a book now by Sal Polisi called "The Sinatra Club". He ran with Jimmy Burke and Henry Hill and those guys. Turns out Tommy didn't get whacked like it was shown in the movie. Tommy was killed.....

Spoiler

...by John Gotti

And there is no mention of Morrie in the book. Sal had to have known him, but he wasn't mentioned.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Morrie's wigs...don't come off!

 

[drummer]

The real Morrie:

http://www.lacndb.com/php/Info.php?name=Martin%20Krugman

 

[VA703]

man this stuff is always a good read. the mob will always provide hit hollywood flicks

 

[RBM]

Eaton was not involved in the Lufthansa heist, but was tortured and murdered by Burke after skimming $250,000 from Burke's operation.His body was discovered hogtied and hanging in a meat freezer truck.

I thought that guy's name was Carbone, and he was involved.

They took some liberties in the movie. In fact, I'm reading a book now by Sal Polisi called "The Sinatra Club". He ran with Jimmy Burke and Henry Hill and those guys. Turns out Tommy didn't get whacked like it was shown in the movie. Tommy was killed.....

Spoiler

...by John Gotti

And there is no mention of Morrie in the book. Sal had to have known him, but he wasn't mentioned.

Hendry actually discussed that years ago on Stern. Not sure it's been confirmed though.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

The real Morrie:

http://www.lacndb.com/php/Info.php?name=Martin%20Krugman

Good Lord. He actually IS a schmuck on wheels !

 

[Raider Nation]

The real Morrie:

http://www.lacndb.com/php/Info.php?name=Martin%20Krugman

Good Lord. He actually IS a schmuck on wheels !

He was the best at picking out a tasty danish though.

 

[General Malaise]

man this stuff is always a good read. the mob will always provide hit hollywood flicks

Guessing you forgot about "Mobsters". :X

 

[Michael Brown]

Morrie's wigs...don't come off!

(even under water)

 

[Raider Nation]

Jimmy was probably pretty happy that he didn't just whack Henry in the coffee shop instead of making up that story about accompanying Anthony to Florida to do a hit.

 

[Insein]

Jimmy was probably pretty happy that he didn't just whack Henry in the coffee shop instead of making up that story about accompanying Anthony to Florida to do a hit.

Or casually offering dresses to Karen instead of just whacking her.

 

[SIDA!]

So many great lines and scenes in that movie. One of my faves is the scene when the boys are having dinner with Tommy's mom and discussing the painting and Tommy says that the dude in the painting "looks like someone we know".

 

[Michael Brown]

So many great lines and scenes in that movie. One of my faves is the scene when the boys are having dinner with Tommy's mom and discussing the painting and Tommy says that the dude in the painting "looks like someone we know".

I have a replica of that painting hanging in my kitchen. Couldn't think of any better place for it than the kitchen

 

[ghostguy123]

Didn't seem vague at all. Karen was about to get wacked.

He was sending her down an alley where a couple guys who were pretending to do something, to see some what, fur coats or something? You see any fur coats? Wouldnt Jimbo have, ya know, walked over there with her?

99.999% obvious it was a whack attack

 

[Sabertooth]

I thought it was a little vague. Why wouldn't Jimmy just grab her a kill her right there? Why didn't they chase her down?

 

[Insein]

I thought it was a little vague. Why wouldn't Jimmy just grab her a kill her right there? Why didn't they chase her down?

Jimmy never wanted his hands dirty by doing it himself. But he was a little too hands off on the Hill's

 

[ghostguy123]

I thought it was a little vague. Why wouldn't Jimmy just grab her a kill her right there? Why didn't they chase her down?

Because he didnt want to kill her....................but he needed her dead.

 

[Hot Diggity Dog]

I can't fly without my lucky hat.

 

[Hot Diggity Dog]

I can't fly without my lucky hat.

 

[Hot Diggity Dog]

I can't fly without my lucky hat.

 

[Hot Diggity Dog]

I can't fly without my lucky hat.

 

[Hot Diggity Dog]

I can't fly without my lucky hat.