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zamboni
Footballguy
I thought that against Seattle (without Hasselback), but this defense doesn't seem to be able to stop anyone.
bollocks28
Footballguy
been holding them for a while for just that purpose. (yesterday too) Considering the anyone vs. Detroit theory and picking up the NO D...
for week 16.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Have you seen the Raiders play?
packersfan
Footballguy
Have you seen the Patriots' D play? Seneca Wallace lit them up yesterday. They simply cannot be trusted from a fantasy perspective. I would not start them unless I absolutely positively had to in a very large league. As far as some of my great plays I'd go with
avone Bess vs. the 49ersIsaac Bruce vs. the Dolphins Deion Branch vs. the RamsJohn Carlson vs. the RamsSammy Morris vs. the Raiders (should be good for at least 1 TD)And if you have to dig real deep, I think Jason Campbell could have a rare good game against the Bengals.
PatrickT
Footballguy
I'm with you. On the Colts at least. Don't know about NO, maybe.been holding them for a while for just that purpose. (yesterday too) Considering the anyone vs. Detroit theory and picking up the NO D...for week 16.
zamboni
Footballguy
Yes, but thanks for asking. I've also seen the Seahawks play.
zamboni
Footballguy
I was going to mention this one. The rook has really picked up his game and seems to be the first option in the passing game.
packersfan
Footballguy
I wouldn't call him a great play but I like Fred Taylor's chances to do well this week against the Packers. MJD will likely light them up, but Taylor has a shot at 60+ yards and maybe a TD. If you're really desperate for a RB3 this might be a decent week to gamble on Taylor. The Packers are just a mess.
GoBirds
Footballguy
2 Weeks ago Arizona was lit up like a Christmas tree against the Eagles, against STL they put up 25 fantasy pts.Matchups.Have you seen the Patriots' D play? Seneca Wallace lit them up yesterday. They simply cannot be trusted from a fantasy perspective. I would not start them unless I absolutely positively had to in a very large league. As far as some of my great plays I'd go with
packersfan
Footballguy
Are you talking about the Patriots' D? Again I'll ask if you've seen them play this season. They are NOT taking advantage of good matchups against anyone. They don't rush the passer effectively. They don't force a lot of turnovers. They haven't scored a defensive or special teams TD all season long. They are a very bad fantasy defense. The only points they generated yesterday came on the very last play of the game when they sacked Wallace and recovered a fumble. In the previous 59 minutes plus, they delivered zip. That's who they are defensively. When you're getting lit up by the likes of Seneca Wallace, you stink defensively. The Patriots stink defensively. If you want to start them against the Raiders because it's a good matchup on paper be my guest. But don't be surprised if they get their usual 1 sack, 1 takeaway or worse type of performance.2 Weeks ago Arizona was lit up like a Christmas tree against the Eagles, against STL they put up 25 fantasy pts.Matchups.Have you seen the Patriots' D play? Seneca Wallace lit them up yesterday. They simply cannot be trusted from a fantasy perspective. I would not start them unless I absolutely positively had to in a very large league. As far as some of my great plays I'd go with
thecardiackid
Footballguy
PHI D/ST gets CLE @ home this week.
They might be on the wire.
They might be on the wire.
Tong Po
Footballguy
Hope you're right.... I plan on starting Rivers, Gates and D. Bowe in that game.otb_lifer said:gotta like the KC/Chargers game ... LT/Rivers/Sproles/VJax and maybe even a Gates sighting ... Thigpen/LJ/Bowe/Gonzo ...should be a fr!ckin' pinball game here .... great fantasy game, methinks
Go DC Yourself
Footballguy
Thigpen w/o Bradley is not the same QB as he was when he had Bradley.otb_lifer said:gotta like the KC/Chargers game ... LT/Rivers/Sproles/VJax and maybe even a Gates sighting ... Thigpen/LJ/Bowe/Gonzo ...should be a fr!ckin' pinball game here .... great fantasy game, methinks
Go DC Yourself
Footballguy
Dominic Rhodes against the Lions.
I agree with everyone but LJ. The matchup looks good but he is not getting enough carries for me to start him anymore?? I just got burned by him in the Denver game (first game 198 yards rushing...yesterday 36). It seems like Herm is more interested in evaluating his QB for next year than actually winning a game. I won't be starting him anymore this year no matter what the match-up is and hopefully if he gets traded, it will be to a team that will actually use him!!!otb_lifer said:gotta like the KC/Chargers game ... LT/Rivers/Sproles/VJax and maybe even a Gates sighting ... Thigpen/LJ/Bowe/Gonzo ...should be a fr!ckin' pinball game here .... great fantasy game, methinks
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
I agree that this game features great starts on both sides. I think Sproles is the one most likely to have a bigger day than typically projected. All Panthers should also be pretty HUGE next week as well, with D. Williams being most likely a major stud.Hope you're right.... I plan on starting Rivers, Gates and D. Bowe in that game.otb_lifer said:gotta like the KC/Chargers game ... LT/Rivers/Sproles/VJax and maybe even a Gates sighting ... Thigpen/LJ/Bowe/Gonzo ...should be a fr!ckin' pinball game here .... great fantasy game, methinks
LionsFan78
Footballguy
I benched him this week the second I heard Hasselbeck wasn't starting, and it nearly cost me. If you don't have one of the no-brainer TE's, he should be a super play this week.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Show me a better WW DEF for next week then? I don't expect another 25 points like I got from Arizona this week but a solid 10-15 definitely. Bilichick vs Jamarcus Russell? Again, find me a better waiver wire D for those of us in 12 team leagues.packersfan said:Are you talking about the Patriots' D? Again I'll ask if you've seen them play this season. They are NOT taking advantage of good matchups against anyone. They don't rush the passer effectively. They don't force a lot of turnovers. They haven't scored a defensive or special teams TD all season long. They are a very bad fantasy defense. The only points they generated yesterday came on the very last play of the game when they sacked Wallace and recovered a fumble. In the previous 59 minutes plus, they delivered zip. That's who they are defensively. When you're getting lit up by the likes of Seneca Wallace, you stink defensively. The Patriots stink defensively. If you want to start them against the Raiders because it's a good matchup on paper be my guest. But don't be surprised if they get their usual 1 sack, 1 takeaway or worse type of performance.GoBirds said:2 Weeks ago Arizona was lit up like a Christmas tree against the Eagles, against STL they put up 25 fantasy pts.Matchups.packersfan said:Have you seen the Patriots' D play? Seneca Wallace lit them up yesterday. They simply cannot be trusted from a fantasy perspective. I would not start them unless I absolutely positively had to in a very large league. As far as some of my great plays I'd go withGoBirds said:
Washington (Cinn) & possibly Seattle (Rams). Next.Show me a better WW DEF for next week then? I don't expect another 25 points like I got from Arizona this week but a solid 10-15 definitely. Bilichick vs Jamarcus Russell? Again, find me a better waiver wire D for those of us in 12 team leagues.packersfan said:Are you talking about the Patriots' D? Again I'll ask if you've seen them play this season. They are NOT taking advantage of good matchups against anyone. They don't rush the passer effectively. They don't force a lot of turnovers. They haven't scored a defensive or special teams TD all season long. They are a very bad fantasy defense. The only points they generated yesterday came on the very last play of the game when they sacked Wallace and recovered a fumble. In the previous 59 minutes plus, they delivered zip. That's who they are defensively. When you're getting lit up by the likes of Seneca Wallace, you stink defensively. The Patriots stink defensively. If you want to start them against the Raiders because it's a good matchup on paper be my guest. But don't be surprised if they get their usual 1 sack, 1 takeaway or worse type of performance.GoBirds said:2 Weeks ago Arizona was lit up like a Christmas tree against the Eagles, against STL they put up 25 fantasy pts.Matchups.packersfan said:Have you seen the Patriots' D play? Seneca Wallace lit them up yesterday. They simply cannot be trusted from a fantasy perspective. I would not start them unless I absolutely positively had to in a very large league. As far as some of my great plays I'd go withGoBirds said:
GoBirds
Footballguy
Washington not on Waivers. NE = SEA, flip a coin. NextWashington (Cinn) & possibly Seattle (Rams). Next.Show me a better WW DEF for next week then? I don't expect another 25 points like I got from Arizona this week but a solid 10-15 definitely. Bilichick vs Jamarcus Russell? Again, find me a better waiver wire D for those of us in 12 team leagues.packersfan said:Are you talking about the Patriots' D? Again I'll ask if you've seen them play this season. They are NOT taking advantage of good matchups against anyone. They don't rush the passer effectively. They don't force a lot of turnovers. They haven't scored a defensive or special teams TD all season long. They are a very bad fantasy defense. The only points they generated yesterday came on the very last play of the game when they sacked Wallace and recovered a fumble. In the previous 59 minutes plus, they delivered zip. That's who they are defensively. When you're getting lit up by the likes of Seneca Wallace, you stink defensively. The Patriots stink defensively. If you want to start them against the Raiders because it's a good matchup on paper be my guest. But don't be surprised if they get their usual 1 sack, 1 takeaway or worse type of performance.GoBirds said:2 Weeks ago Arizona was lit up like a Christmas tree against the Eagles, against STL they put up 25 fantasy pts.Matchups.packersfan said:Have you seen the Patriots' D play? Seneca Wallace lit them up yesterday. They simply cannot be trusted from a fantasy perspective. I would not start them unless I absolutely positively had to in a very large league. As far as some of my great plays I'd go withGoBirds said:
Pauli Walnuts
Footballguy
Anyone think Kevin Smith is a sneaky play this week? Indy's not the greatest run D and Smith is a pretty good receiver out of the backfield. Could be good for an early, or garbage time TD.
Routilla
Footballguy
IND DEF/ST vs DET: C-Pep might be out and the other QBs are either hurt too or just flat out suck.
D. Branch & J. Carlson @STL: With or without Hass I think they have good games. Need STL to score at least 17 points though to keep SEA running their offense for the full game.
S. Smith vs DEN: Smith can carve DEN up in this one.
Warner vs MIN: I expect MIN to stop the AZ run and that leaves Warner slinging it all day.
D. Branch & J. Carlson @STL: With or without Hass I think they have good games. Need STL to score at least 17 points though to keep SEA running their offense for the full game.
S. Smith vs DEN: Smith can carve DEN up in this one.
Warner vs MIN: I expect MIN to stop the AZ run and that leaves Warner slinging it all day.
packersfan
Footballguy
I'd start Arizona at home against the Vikings before I'd start the Patriots. If Frerotte starts, he's good for 2-3 INTs a game and if Jackson starts ... well he pretty much stinks. So either way, the Cardinals have much more upside this week than the Patriots in my opinion.As far as defenses that might be available in 12-team leagues:
Miami (if still available another great matchup against the Niners - especially if Gore is out)
Washington (not a good fantasy defense but Fitzpatrick is just awful)
Colts (might still be available and the Lions have major QB issues again)
Seattle (huge sleeper pick this week in my opinion going against the Rams)
I'd put all four of them ahead of the Patriots.
On paper, I completely agree the Patriots vs. the Raiders should be a great matchup for the Patriots. The problem is, the Patriots have done nothing all year long for fantasy owners. They've failed against good teams. They've failed against bad teams. They played a terrible Seattle team yesterday and were lucky to win and once again gave fantasy owners nothing. It's possible at some point the Patriots will luck into a good fantasy day. However, we're entering Week 15 and they haven't had one yet and the clock is about to strike midnight.
Like I said, if you want to gamble a huge fantasy week on the Patriots, that's your call. Just don't be surprised if they come up small for the 14th game in a row.
packersfan
Footballguy
Seneca Wallace vs. the Rams could be a very deep reach that pays off big.
robb
Footballguy
So, in week 16 would you take the Cleveland defense versus Ciccinnati Bungels or.....New Orleans defense versus the Detroit Lionesses??I'm with you. On the Colts at least. Don't know about NO, maybe.been holding them for a while for just that purpose. (yesterday too) Considering the anyone vs. Detroit theory and picking up the NO D...for week 16.
Addai's Adidas
Footballguy
Start your Cardinals, especially if there are suspensions, like you wouldn't anyway.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Seattle is the only one available you mentioned. CAR, DAL also available.Sorry if Seattle doesn't get me excited. Yeah, they play STL, they did me a favor this week.....don't know if I expect lightning to strike twice.
Sweet Love
IBL Representative
I had to pick him up today after Hillis went down. How did he look this weekend...his stats line did not look too good...Hmmmmmmmmmmm......interesting. I think I like!
blackjack23
Footballguy
Id rather start at least 15 defenses over NE next week
GoBirds
Footballguy
Helpful.
blackjack23
Footballguy
Helpful.
What more do you want me to say? packersfan made all the good points but you can pick up NE if you want. Dont expect much.
packersfan
Footballguy
Dominic Rhodes against the Lions is looking real good as well this week. Addai sucks; he's hurt again and Rhodes has been finishing games the past two weeks. No. 2 RBs have done very well against the Lions in recent weeks.
On second thought, if No. 2 RBs have done well vs. Detroit maybe that means Addai is looking good since he's the second-best RB on the Colts right now.
On second thought, if No. 2 RBs have done well vs. Detroit maybe that means Addai is looking good since he's the second-best RB on the Colts right now.
gonzobill5
Footballguy
With Jacobs & Barber hurting, I've got my eyes on dominic rhodes & maurice morris as plug ins with good upside. i think rhodes could absolutely blow up if the colts go up two tds early. i don't think they'd try to eat up clock with addai when he's banged up. i also think there's a decent chance they give it to rhodes early because he has been so much more effective.
blackjack23
Footballguy
packersfan
Footballguy
You started a defense this week that's better than the Patriots. You said the Cowboys and Panthers are available. Both are better than the Patriots. I'm willing to bet the Patriots rank near the bottom in fantasy defensive points in virtually every scoring system imaginable. Again, the call is yours but there is no good reason to start the Patriots at this point in the season. They simply haven't earned the right to be trusted after 13 terrible fantasy games in a row.Back to the thread, the way Jonathan Stewart is running tonight he might be a very good RB3 next week against the Broncos.
blackjack23
Footballguy
Well Im stuck with one of these guys for me this week. I just dont see how I can start the backup over the starter (if Addai plays). If Addai plays Ill start him and pray for the best. Im sure Ill be gritting my teeth come 4PM.Dominic Rhodes against the Lions is looking real good as well this week. Addai sucks; he's hurt again and Rhodes has been finishing games the past two weeks. No. 2 RBs have done very well against the Lions in recent weeks.On second thought, if No. 2 RBs have done well vs. Detroit maybe that means Addai is looking good since he's the second-best RB on the Colts right now.
blackjack23
Footballguy
But theyre playing Oakland. They gotta do good. Just like Denver a few weeks ago
packersfan
Footballguy
If Addai practices fully all week I'll start him. I can't ignore the matchup. If he's limited during the week I'm sitting him. It's a great matchup but I'll go with a healthy player who I trust. I'd rather fail that way than start Addai and watch him stink up the joint as he's done so often this season.Well Im stuck with one of these guys for me this week. I just dont see how I can start the backup over the starter (if Addai plays). If Addai plays Ill start him and pray for the best. Im sure Ill be gritting my teeth come 4PM.Dominic Rhodes against the Lions is looking real good as well this week. Addai sucks; he's hurt again and Rhodes has been finishing games the past two weeks. No. 2 RBs have done very well against the Lions in recent weeks.On second thought, if No. 2 RBs have done well vs. Detroit maybe that means Addai is looking good since he's the second-best RB on the Colts right now.
