Great year for redraft (1 Viewer)

[redman]

I'm just taking note of the message board discussions in general, and noting the number of disagreements, some of them severe, over what given players' prospects are.

Take Portis for example. If his knee is as bad as some fear, he's a RB3-4 or worse and is a yoke on a team all season long, particularly a team that failed to draft Betts. If he's fully recovered and just taking the preseason slow, and we simply consider last year to be an aberration and nothing more, he inherits the fully-installed Saunders offense with a new, deep passing and promising QB and the potential to challenge for the 3rd or 4th best RB in fantasy football, which is to say likely the 3rd or 4th most valuable player in fantasy.

You see similar (albeit for varying reasons) arguments taking place over guys like Fred Taylor, Deuce, Gore, Maroney, Norwood, etc., and that's just the RB position. Does anyone really have a handle on what Randy Moss will do this year, or his teammate Stallworth?

Where there's this much in question, there's a very unique opportunity in redraft leagues to find value. I would predict that this year will be somewhat of an aberration to the general redraft rule that the person drafting at 1.01 tends to win.

 

[Gr00vus]

I'm finding this year more so than other years that the more I read the less I like a large number of players scheduled to be drafted in the early rounds, and the more interested I'm becoming in guys later in the draft. Usually I'm wishing I had an extra 2nd or 3rd round pick - this year I find myself wishing I had about 4 8th round picks.

Take your Portis example. He could be great, but I'm scared to death of his brittleness. It may not even be and injury he's already purported to have right now, but I can't shake the certainty that he will miss significant time again this year. That said I'd probably roll the dice on him if he was there for me in the 3rd round for some reason - but I just can't cozy up to making him my 2nd round pick.

Cedric Benson's another one - a week ago I felt good about the possibility of taking him in the 2nd. But the more I think about it, the less confident I feel in that offense and in Benson's ability to have the cojones necessary to be a dominant back, so I'm dropping him back down my board again.

Definitely a weird season.

 

[ImTheScientist]

 

[whodeywhodey]

Foster being drafted well after DeShaun. 'Nuff said about this year's redrafts.

 

[Colin Dowling]

Cedric Benson's another one - a week ago I felt good about the possibility of taking him in the 2nd. But the more I think about it, the less confident I feel in that offense and in Benson's ability to have the cojones necessary to be a dominant back, so I'm dropping him back down my board again.

Foster being drafted well after DeShaun. 'Nuff said about this year's redrafts.

What kind of league is that?

 

[TheWick]

Foster being drafted well after DeShaun. 'Nuff said about this year's redrafts.

?

 

[BroadwayG]

Foster being drafted well after DeShaun. 'Nuff said about this year's redrafts.

Can you clarify this by putting first and last names to Foster and DeShaun?

 

[TheWick]

:deadhorsebeaten:

 

[Gr00vus]

Cedric Benson's another one - a week ago I felt good about the possibility of taking him in the 2nd. But the more I think about it, the less confident I feel in that offense and in Benson's ability to have the cojones necessary to be a dominant back, so I'm dropping him back down my board again.

Sorry boss, that's the way I'm seeing it right now. He's still in the 2nd round for me but further down than last week, and I'd not feel so great about having him.

 

[whodeywhodey]

Foster being drafted well after DeShaun. 'Nuff said about this year's redrafts.

Can you clarify this by putting first and last names to Foster and DeShaun?

Damn. Its been a long week. I just re-read that and laughed.I meant Deshaun Foster being drafted well after DeAngelo Williams.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I agree with the oddities that people are perceiving.

I'll add another... Do NOT do a QBBC this year.

Im getting a top 10 (ro so) QB in every draft that has decent QB scoring.

I havent seen the QBs situated like this in a long long time.

 

[BroadwayG]

I agree with the oddities that people are perceiving.I'll add another... Do NOT do a QBBC this year. Im getting a top 10 (ro so) QB in every draft that has decent QB scoring. I havent seen the QBs situated like this in a long long time.

Bah, just snag Culpepper in the last round and you'll be golden.

 

[sprtbuf]

Foster being drafted well after DeShaun. 'Nuff said about this year's redrafts.

Can you clarify this by putting first and last names to Foster and DeShaun?

Damn. Its been a long week. I just re-read that and laughed.I meant Deshaun Foster being drafted well after DeAngelo Williams.

Thought a joke was being made about Foster's Lager and drafting Deshaun...

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I agree with the oddities that people are perceiving.I'll add another... Do NOT do a QBBC this year. Im getting a top 10 (ro so) QB in every draft that has decent QB scoring. I havent seen the QBs situated like this in a long long time.

Bah, just snag Culpepper in the last round and you'll be golden.

Even when you get a top QB, you still have to acquire a back up.

 

[John Mamula]

I agree with the oddities that people are perceiving.I'll add another... Do NOT do a QBBC this year. Im getting a top 10 (ro so) QB in every draft that has decent QB scoring. I havent seen the QBs situated like this in a long long time.

i think it is wise to grab QBs late more than ever.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I agree with the oddities that people are perceiving.I'll add another... Do NOT do a QBBC this year. Im getting a top 10 (ro so) QB in every draft that has decent QB scoring. I havent seen the QBs situated like this in a long long time.

i think it is wise to grab QBs late more than ever.

And I am glad people are disagreeing.

 

[Gr00vus]

I agree with the oddities that people are perceiving.I'll add another... Do NOT do a QBBC this year. Im getting a top 10 (ro so) QB in every draft that has decent QB scoring. I havent seen the QBs situated like this in a long long time.

i think it is wise to grab QBs late more than ever.

I hope you're not in any of my leagues.....

 

[radballs]

I agree with the oddities that people are perceiving.I'll add another... Do NOT do a QBBC this year. Im getting a top 10 (ro so) QB in every draft that has decent QB scoring. I havent seen the QBs situated like this in a long long time.

i think it is wise to grab QBs late more than ever.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

I agree with the oddities that people are perceiving.I'll add another... Do NOT do a QBBC this year. Im getting a top 10 (ro so) QB in every draft that has decent QB scoring. I havent seen the QBs situated like this in a long long time.

i think it is wise to grab QBs late more than ever.

I hope you're not in any of my leagues.....

I am in a league with 6 points for all TDs including passes. I know many leagues award 4 for passing TDs. In this scoring system, do you still feel that it is a year to wait on your QB? I had determined in my mind that I need to get one of the top 6 (Manning, Palmer, Brady, Brees, Bulger, McNabb) as I see that being the end of the elite tier. I was planning to target Bulger/McNabb in the 5th. Even in this scoring format, do you still wait and grab one from the next tier (there are like 8 that I view as exactly the same) in the 8/9 range, or do you go with the QB that is closer to a sure thing with such an emphasis on QB scoring?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Apologies gents, didnt mean for my post to hijack the thread.

 

[John Mamula]

I agree with the oddities that people are perceiving.I'll add another... Do NOT do a QBBC this year. Im getting a top 10 (ro so) QB in every draft that has decent QB scoring. I havent seen the QBs situated like this in a long long time.

i think it is wise to grab QBs late more than ever.

I hope you're not in any of my leagues.....

I am in a league with 6 points for all TDs including passes. I know many leagues award 4 for passing TDs. In this scoring system, do you still feel that it is a year to wait on your QB? I had determined in my mind that I need to get one of the top 6 (Manning, Palmer, Brady, Brees, Bulger, McNabb) as I see that being the end of the elite tier. I was planning to target Bulger/McNabb in the 5th. Even in this scoring format, do you still wait and grab one from the next tier (there are like 8 that I view as exactly the same) in the 8/9 range, or do you go with the QB that is closer to a sure thing with such an emphasis on QB scoring?

Well it depends on your projections.Also, I personally would rather get depth at WR/RB and make up the difference with a QB in the 9-12 rounds like a Roethlisberger, Leinart, Rivers, or Cutler. Then later you have nice upside guys like Grossman, Losman, Favre and even later than that someone like Croyle or Leftwich.There is definitely more than one way to draft, but value at the QB position falls to you in pretty much every draft. Why reach for it?

 

[LHUCKS]

I agree with the oddities that people are perceiving.I'll add another... Do NOT do a QBBC this year. Im getting a top 10 (ro so) QB in every draft that has decent QB scoring. I havent seen the QBs situated like this in a long long time.

i think it is wise to grab QBs late more than ever.

With one exception.

 

[Sweetness_34]

I agree with the oddities that people are perceiving.I'll add another... Do NOT do a QBBC this year. Im getting a top 10 (ro so) QB in every draft that has decent QB scoring. I havent seen the QBs situated like this in a long long time.

i think it is wise to grab QBs late more than ever.

I hope you're not in any of my leagues.....

I am in a league with 6 points for all TDs including passes. I know many leagues award 4 for passing TDs. In this scoring system, do you still feel that it is a year to wait on your QB? I had determined in my mind that I need to get one of the top 6 (Manning, Palmer, Brady, Brees, Bulger, McNabb) as I see that being the end of the elite tier. I was planning to target Bulger/McNabb in the 5th. Even in this scoring format, do you still wait and grab one from the next tier (there are like 8 that I view as exactly the same) in the 8/9 range, or do you go with the QB that is closer to a sure thing with such an emphasis on QB scoring?

I just got Eli Manning, Big Ben & Grossman as my Qbs.....and I love it. Teams they will be playing that have just horrible pass Defenses because every one of these teams listed below does not really have the ability to pressure a Qb unless they send the house: Detroit (>1 between those Qbs)Minnesota (>1 between those Qbs)Dallas(>1 between those Qbs)Washington Redskins (>1 between those Qbs)Cleveland & Cincy (> 1 between those Qbs)San Fran, Arizona, Seattle, Rams (>1 between those Qbs)Why would you not play QBBC and just hammer everyone at other positions? By doing this I can trot out Westbrook, Portis, Reggie Wayne, Lee Evans, Plaxico Burress & Vernon Davis very week at these guys. It is easier to do QBBC and just trot out studs at other positions. You cannot predict WR performance or TE performance from week to week....but you can do it for Qbs.....look for teams that cannot pressure the Qb and you will find a Qb that does well that week.

 

[MDSkinner]

I agree with the oddities that people are perceiving.I'll add another... Do NOT do a QBBC this year. Im getting a top 10 (ro so) QB in every draft that has decent QB scoring. I havent seen the QBs situated like this in a long long time.

i think it is wise to grab QBs late more than ever.

I agree with you, as long as by late you mean grabbing QB's in the 10-15 range. That is where there really seems to be a lot of value to me.As I am seeing it right now (and I am probably wrong) QB 6 (Vince according to FBG) and QB 16 (Alex Smith) are about an average of 1-2 point a game difference. It is different if you are looking at one of the big 4, more than likely, but if you do not feel like going for one of the big 4 early, then why not wait and grab a QB in the 10-15 range?

 

[redman]

Smell that? You smell that? Dissent, son. Nothing in the world smells like that.

I love the smell of dissent in the morning. You know, one time we had a fantasy draft going for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked around. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' cheatsheet. The smell, you know that smell, the whole room. Smelled like... victory. Someday this draft's gonna end...

 

[Gr00vus]

Smell that? You smell that? Dissent, son. Nothing in the world smells like that. I love the smell of dissent in the morning. You know, one time we had a fantasy draft going for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked around. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' cheatsheet. The smell, you know that smell, the whole room. Smelled like... victory. Someday this draft's gonna end...