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Greatest QB (number) of all time... (1 Viewer)

MarcO

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it seems the greatest QB of all time debate has run it's course -so here is another related topic. The greatest QB number of all time:

1 - Warren Moon

4 - Brett Favre

7 - Elway, Jaworski, Theisman, Vick, Boomer

8 - Young, Aikman, A. Manning, Brunell

9 - Jurgensen

10 - Tarkenton

11 - Van Brocklin, Simms, Bledsoe

12 - Staubach, Bradshaw, Stabler, Greise, Namath, Kelly, Brady

13 - Marino

14 - Fouts, Graham, Tittle, Anderson, Grogan

15 - Starr

16 - Montana, Blanda, Plunkett, Dawson, Testeverde

17 - Kreig, Jim Hart

18 - Manning

19 - Unitas

I go with the classic 70-80's #12. I grew up watching those guys and all the great ones wore #12 - Tom Brady is icing on the cake...

 
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at least after you substitute Roethlisberger for Vick :towelwave:

Vick? are you serious? maybe if you charting QB #'s based on jersey sales...thats about the only reason

 
Snotbubbles said:
No #5? If you're gonna have guys like Brunell and Testeverde you might as well put McNabb in there.
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Brunell has almost 32K passing yards and will probably break the top 20 all time before he retires. Testeverde is #6 all time with 45K. they a re worth a mention aren't they?
 
MarcO said:
Snotbubbles said:
No #5? If you're gonna have guys like Brunell and Testeverde you might as well put McNabb in there.
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Brunell has almost 32K passing yards and will probably break the top 20 all time before he retires. Testeverde is #6 all time with 45K. they a re worth a mention aren't they?
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You included twenty-one QBs; few would throw Brunell, Testeverde, Steve Grogan, or Jim Hart in the top twenty. For that matter, Dave Krieg, Jim Plunkett, and Drew Bledsoe probably don't belong. Heck, Vick barely deserves to be included in a conversation of the top twenty QBs playing right now.It's hard for me to believe you didn't start this thread looking for an ###-kicking.
 
MarcO said:
it seems the greatest QB of all time debate has run it's course -so here is another related topic. The greatest QB number of all time:

1 - Warren Moon

4 - Brett Favre

7 - Elway, Jaworski, Theisman, Vick, Boomer

8 - Young, Aikman, A. Manning, Brunell

9 - Jurgensen

10 - Tarkenton

11 - Van Brocklin, Simms, Bledsoe

12 - Staubach, Bradshaw, Stabler, Greise, Namath, Kelly, Brady

13 - Marino, Maynard

14 - Fouts, Graham, Tittle, Anderson, Grogan

15 - Starr

16 - Montana, Blanda, Plunkett, Dawson, Testeverde

17 - Kreig, Jim Hart, Phillip Rivers

18 - Manning

19 - Unitas

I go with the classic 70-80's #12. I grew up watching those guys and all the great ones wore #12 - Tom Brady is icing on the cake...
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The fact that Vick is on here robs the topic creator of all credibility. Hell, he isn't even the best #7 in the NFL at the moment... (Roethlisberger)

 
Despyzer said:
MarcO said:
Snotbubbles said:
No #5? If you're gonna have guys like Brunell and Testeverde you might as well put McNabb in there.
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Brunell has almost 32K passing yards and will probably break the top 20 all time before he retires. Testeverde is #6 all time with 45K. they a re worth a mention aren't they?
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You included twenty-one QBs; few would throw Brunell, Testeverde, Steve Grogan, or Jim Hart in the top twenty. For that matter, Dave Krieg, Jim Plunkett, and Drew Bledsoe probably don't belong. Heck, Vick barely deserves to be included in a conversation of the top twenty QBs playing right now.It's hard for me to believe you didn't start this thread looking for an ###-kicking.
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Whatever dude, go ahead and kick my ### but you really should lighten up...i think there are 40 or so on the list... some were left off because it wasn't worth mentioning the 1 number (like Mcnabb's #5)or adding to the already 5 there.

like Vick or not as your fantasy QB -he will probably end his career as the all time leading rusher for QBs (maybe 7K? yards)and have close to 25k yards passing. He will be in a category by himself and probably be cosidered among the top 50 QBs to play. .

 
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Yea, he's exciting and makes plays because of his rushing abilities, and is one of the best running QB's of all-time. But his passing abilities are mediocre...the most generous word I can use to describe it is inconsistant. Vick can win games on his own, but his own inability to make plays through the air (on most occassions. He's had some good games though) makes him just as likely to lose a game as to win it. He's hit or miss... either he looks like Jesus Christ out there, or he looks like a hapless QB from a Div-III college who's getting time because the team's starter went out. That's not a quality of one of the top QB's to play the game, not to mention in the league right now.

 
Jous said:
Yea, he's exciting and makes plays because of his rushing abilities, and is one of the best running QB's of all-time. But his passing abilities are mediocre...the most generous word I can use to describe it is inconsistant. Vick can win games on his own, but his own inability to make plays through the air (on most occassions. He's had some good games though) makes him just as likely to lose a game as to win it. He's hit or miss... either he looks like Jesus Christ out there, or he looks like a hapless QB from a Div-III college who's getting time because the team's starter went out. That's not a quality of one of the top QB's to play the game, not to mention in the league right now.
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and you wanted who to be on the list? Roethlisberger?? :lmao:
 
Roethlisberger has shown much more as a QB than Vick has at this point in their careers. I think that's pretty obvious to most people...

 
And I didn't say I wanted Roethlisberger on the list. I don't, because he hasn't proven enough to be on there. What I said was that Vick shouldn't be there because he's not even the best #7 in the NFL right now.

 
Jous said:
And I didn't say I wanted Roethlisberger on the list. I don't, because he hasn't proven enough to be on there. What I said was that Vick shouldn't be there because he's not even the best #7 in the NFL right now.
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Vick might not even be the best quarterback on his own team right now.
 
Jous said:
The fact that Vick is on here robs the topic creator of all credibility. Hell, he isn't even the best #7 in the NFL at the moment... (Roethlisberger)
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:eek: ..................you have been watching the NFL this season, right? Vick is and has been playing a hell of alot better than Ben.
 
MarcO said:
Jous said:
Yea, he's exciting and makes plays because of his rushing abilities, and is one of the best running QB's of all-time. But his passing abilities are mediocre...the most generous word I can use to describe it is inconsistant. Vick can win games on his own, but his own inability to make plays through the air (on most occassions. He's had some good games though) makes him just as likely to lose a game as to win it. He's hit or miss... either he looks like Jesus Christ out there, or he looks like a hapless QB from a Div-III college who's getting time because the team's starter went out. That's not a quality of one of the top QB's to play the game, not to mention in the league right now.
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and you wanted who to be on the list? Roethlisberger?? :lmao:
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When your QB gets hit by a Chrysler New Yorkerand starts an NFL game 3 months later, with an appendectomy in the middle, get back to me..How many QBs in the NFL currently have won a Super Bowl: Roeth, Brady, Favre, Dilfer, Warner, BJohnsonAside from Favre and Brady, Roeth is easily the #3 QB on that list already after 3 yearsPittsburgh is the #4 (255.6 YPG) passing offense in the NFL. They weren't even close to that his first few years. Just looking at last week, he single handedly won that game with 2 TDs and 225 yds in the 4th quarter. Take away some INTs, like the 3 last week, none of which were his fault, and hes having a pretty damn good year.Im not saying send him to Canton right now, but he is a top QB in the NFL. He's finally coming around from his injuries/surgeries, and will likely end the year on a high note as opposed to how he started it.
 
yinzer said:
MarcO said:
Jous said:
Yea, he's exciting and makes plays because of his rushing abilities, and is one of the best running QB's of all-time. But his passing abilities are mediocre...the most generous word I can use to describe it is inconsistant. Vick can win games on his own, but his own inability to make plays through the air (on most occassions. He's had some good games though) makes him just as likely to lose a game as to win it. He's hit or miss... either he looks like Jesus Christ out there, or he looks like a hapless QB from a Div-III college who's getting time because the team's starter went out. That's not a quality of one of the top QB's to play the game, not to mention in the league right now.
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and you wanted who to be on the list? Roethlisberger?? :lmao:
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When your QB gets hit by a Chrysler New Yorkerand starts an NFL game 3 months later, with an appendectomy in the middle, get back to me..How many QBs in the NFL currently have won a Super Bowl: Roeth, Brady, Favre, Dilfer, Warner, BJohnson

Aside from Favre and Brady, Roeth is easily the #3 QB on that list already after 3 years

Pittsburgh is the #4 (255.6 YPG) passing offense in the NFL. They weren't even close to that his first few years. Just looking at last week, he single handedly won that game with 2 TDs and 225 yds in the 4th quarter. Take away some INTs, like the 3 last week, none of which were his fault, and hes having a pretty damn good year.

Im not saying send him to Canton right now, but he is a top QB in the NFL. He's finally coming around from his injuries/surgeries, and will likely end the year on a high note as opposed to how he started it.
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Roethlithsberger had a QB rating of 22.6 in the superbowl. he had less do with winning that game than the refs did.
 
SproutDaddy said:
Jous said:
The fact that Vick is on here robs the topic creator of all credibility. Hell, he isn't even the best #7 in the NFL at the moment... (Roethlisberger)
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:eek: ..................you have been watching the NFL this season, right? Vick is and has been playing a hell of alot better than Ben.
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Roeth had A LOT more offseaon issues then Vick, not to mention a tougher scheduleso far this yr:

Roeth: 12 TDs/17 INT, 2315 yds, 75.8 QB rating, in 8.5 games

Vick: 13 TDs/9 INT, 1686 pass yds, 704 rush yds, 74.3 QB rating, in 10 games

So Vick has less than 100 more yards than Roeth in an extra 90 minutes of playing. Has a worse QB rating.

You can argue many things not considered he's having a better year, but certainly not a much better year

 
MarcO said:
yinzer said:
MarcO said:
Jous said:
Yea, he's exciting and makes plays because of his rushing abilities, and is one of the best running QB's of all-time. But his passing abilities are mediocre...the most generous word I can use to describe it is inconsistant. Vick can win games on his own, but his own inability to make plays through the air (on most occassions. He's had some good games though) makes him just as likely to lose a game as to win it. He's hit or miss... either he looks like Jesus Christ out there, or he looks like a hapless QB from a Div-III college who's getting time because the team's starter went out. That's not a quality of one of the top QB's to play the game, not to mention in the league right now.
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and you wanted who to be on the list? Roethlisberger?? :lmao:
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When your QB gets hit by a Chrysler New Yorkerand starts an NFL game 3 months later, with an appendectomy in the middle, get back to me..How many QBs in the NFL currently have won a Super Bowl: Roeth, Brady, Favre, Dilfer, Warner, BJohnson

Aside from Favre and Brady, Roeth is easily the #3 QB on that list already after 3 years

Pittsburgh is the #4 (255.6 YPG) passing offense in the NFL. They weren't even close to that his first few years. Just looking at last week, he single handedly won that game with 2 TDs and 225 yds in the 4th quarter. Take away some INTs, like the 3 last week, none of which were his fault, and hes having a pretty damn good year.

Im not saying send him to Canton right now, but he is a top QB in the NFL. He's finally coming around from his injuries/surgeries, and will likely end the year on a high note as opposed to how he started it.
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Roethlithsberger had a QB rating of 22.6 in the superbowl. he had less do with winning that game than the refs did.
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Refs made if that, 1 bad call. Quit the ref argument. He might not have won them the superbowl, but he got them there with the wins over Indy and Denver. He had killer games in the playoffs AT INDY and AT DENVER (probably toughest place to play on the road, let alone playoffs) that won them those games. Won't say he won them the superbowl, but he was the biggest single reason why they were there.
 
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SproutDaddy said:
Jous said:
The fact that Vick is on here robs the topic creator of all credibility. Hell, he isn't even the best #7 in the NFL at the moment... (Roethlisberger)
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:eek: ..................you have been watching the NFL this season, right? Vick is and has been playing a hell of alot better than Ben.
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Vick has definetly not been playing "much" better than Ben this year. Vick had 2 great back to back games and the media was all over his jock as finally breaking out into his true potential, but since then he's come back down to his average self. And before his 2 great games he was playing very mediocre. Don't get me wrong, Ben has definetly not been having a grea year and I wouldn't have a problem with anyone saying Vick is having a better year than Roethlisberger because I may be of that opinion, too. But just because Vick may be having a bit of a better year THIS SEASON doesn't mean you can say Vick is a better QB! That's just crazy...you can't just look at this season, because I don't think anyone really believes that Roethlisberger is going to continue his slump for too long.Looking at their careers, Ben definetly has the advantage. He played poorly in the SuperBowl but was fantastic in 2005, and a man on fire in the 2005 playoffs. And his rookie season, while it ended in playoff defeat, will be remembered for years and years because of how overall great he played as a rookie.Vick on the other hand, was only truly a great QB in 2002. Since then he's had a rocky career with just as many losses directly pointed to him as wins if not more.
 
15 John Stofa :yes: Stofa and his backfield mate Bob Barcalounger were a much greater combo than Aikman and Emmitt Smith...

 
Gr00vus said:
Ed Wood said:
Gr00vus said:
psst Ed - you got one for 10 Jim Zorn? Maybe more lefthanded than Aikman?
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I forgot about Zorn. :wall: MUCH more lefthanded than Aikman. Thanks, Gr00vus. :thumbup:
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You might take a look at 17 Steve DeBerg too. Remember the time he played while missing part of a finger?
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And don't forget his brother Martin DeBergi, documentary film maker (he added the "i" after a falling out with the family...)
 
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Ed Wood said:
Gr00vus said:
Ed Wood said:
Gr00vus said:
psst Ed - you got one for 10 Jim Zorn? Maybe more lefthanded than Aikman?
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I forgot about Zorn. :wall: MUCH more lefthanded than Aikman. Thanks, Gr00vus. :thumbup:
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You might take a look at 17 Steve DeBerg too. Remember the time he played while missing part of a finger?
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And don't forget his brother Martin DeBergi, documentary film maker (he added the "i" after a falling out with the family...)
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As well as cousin Chris DeBurgh, who penned the puketastic 80's schlock ballad "the lady in red," and obviously preferred the more Irish spelling.
 
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