Green Bay Packers @ Chicago Bears...it's that week again. (1 Viewer)

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Both teams are 2-0.

ESPN Power Rankings: GB 2, Chicago 12

Team Rankings:

Chicago O: 3rd Passing(316), 29th Rushing(69.5)

Chicago D: 27th Passing(261), 1st Rushing(28.0)

Packers O: 16th Passing(211), 14th Rushing(111.5)

Packers D: 3rd Passing(116.5), 28th Rushing(136.5)

Key Injuries:

Chicago- Hillenmeyer(IR), Chris Williams(Hamstring), Major Wright(Hamstring)

Packers- Grant(IR), Jenkins(club on hand), Harrell (IR), Jolly (suspended), Clifton(knees)

Key Questions:

Clay Mathews has 6 sacks and has increased his performance from his rookie season despite battling hamstring issues in training camp.

With Williams hurt, can Williams(if he returns) or Omiyale block Mathews and give Cutler time to throw?

Packers run game didn't get going last week and can Brandon Jackson step up for Ryan Grant?

Packers OL, hasn't performed great. Now with Bulaga at LT, will it improve or decline?

With Clifton hurt, can Clifton(if he returns) or a rookie Bulaga block Peppers and give Rodgers time to throw?

Will Aaron Rodgers get this offense on track to the level most expected in the offseason or performed last year?

Will Jay Cutler continue this impressive streak or decline to his poor games last year?

 

[cr8f]

At least I'll get the game here in northern Wisconsin.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Bears win in an upset.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Packers win 34 - 3

 

[Gopher State]

Bears win 34-24. Rogers gets sacked 4 times

 

[puckalicious]

All you need to know is the Lions nearly beat the Bears in Chicago. Well I prefer to believe they actually did win. Packers run away with this game unless the weather is bad.

 

[scott72]

Clay is going to knock Cutler into next week. Pack wins this 28-14..

 

[Limp Ditka]

All you need to know is the Lions nearly beat the Bears in Chicago. Well I prefer to believe they actually did win. Packers run away with this game unless the weather is bad.

This is it? This is all I need to know?

 

[sho nuff]

Bears win in an upset.

Its currently a 3 point spread I think (Packers favored)Both teams 2-0.Usually a competitive game no matter the records.I don't think its much of an upset if Chicago wins at home.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Bears win in an upset.

Its currently a 3 point spread I think (Packers favored)Both teams 2-0.Usually a competitive game no matter the records.I don't think its much of an upset if Chicago wins at home.

When the books have the home team a 3 point dog, and they win, it's an upset.HTH

 

[todisco1]

Looking forward to this game. I think Cutler and Forte continue their comebacks and edge the Pack in a tight one.

 

[scott72]

Bears win in an upset.

Its currently a 3 point spread I think (Packers favored)Both teams 2-0.Usually a competitive game no matter the records.I don't think its much of an upset if Chicago wins at home.

When the books have the home team a 3 point dog, and they win, it's an upset.HTH

That's a little silly don't you think? So if the Bears were favored by one and the Pack won it's an upset?

 

[Limp Ditka]

Bears win in an upset.

Its currently a 3 point spread I think (Packers favored)Both teams 2-0.Usually a competitive game no matter the records.I don't think its much of an upset if Chicago wins at home.

When the books have the home team a 3 point dog, and they win, it's an upset.HTH

That's a little silly don't you think? So if the Bears were favored by one and the Pack won it's an upset?

Is that even remotely close to what I said?

 

[scott72]

Bears win in an upset.

Its currently a 3 point spread I think (Packers favored)Both teams 2-0.Usually a competitive game no matter the records.I don't think its much of an upset if Chicago wins at home.

When the books have the home team a 3 point dog, and they win, it's an upset.HTH

That's a little silly don't you think? So if the Bears were favored by one and the Pack won it's an upset?

Is that even remotely close to what I said?

Umm yes it is. You basically said anytime the team that's not favored wins, it's an upset. If that's not what you mean, feel free to clear it up for me.

 

[basher]

Looking forward to this game. I think Cutler and Forte continue their comebacks and edge the Pack in a tight one.

Forte did nothing against the Packers last year. The year before he had a few touchdowns and had some decent receiving yardage but wasn't really that good. Cutler also struggled mightily against the Packers last season. I like the Packers winning here but I think it will be really close. Rodgers hasn't looked sharp at all and the Packers have let both teams hang around a lot longer then they should have without putting foot to throat.

 

[gary mexico]

Looking forward to this game. I think Cutler and Forte continue their comebacks and edge the Pack in a tight one.

Forte did nothing against the Packers last year. The year before he had a few touchdowns and had some decent receiving yardage but wasn't really that good. Cutler also struggled mightily against the Packers last season. I like the Packers winning here but I think it will be really close. Rodgers hasn't looked sharp at all and the Packers have let both teams hang around a lot longer then they should have without putting foot to throat.

He didnt run for much against dallas last week either...

 

[Limp Ditka]

When the books have the home team a 3 point dog, and they win, it's an upset.

HTH

That's a little silly don't you think? So if the Bears were favored by one and the Pack won it's an upset?

Is that even remotely close to what I said?

Umm yes it is. You basically said anytime the team that's not favored wins, it's an upset. If that's not what you mean, feel free to clear it up for me.

I did? Where?

 

[sho nuff]

Bears win in an upset.

Its currently a 3 point spread I think (Packers favored)Both teams 2-0.Usually a competitive game no matter the records.I don't think its much of an upset if Chicago wins at home.

When the books have the home team a 3 point dog, and they win, it's an upset.HTH

Im talking reality here...its not really much of an upset for a home team to beat a division rival. Especially given the history of this series.I simply would not call it much of an upset.Just as if Green Bay was the underdog by 3 points, I would not call it an upset.

 

[scott72]

When the books have the home team a 3 point dog, and they win, it's an upset.

HTH

That's a little silly don't you think? So if the Bears were favored by one and the Pack won it's an upset?

Is that even remotely close to what I said?

Umm yes it is. You basically said anytime the team that's not favored wins, it's an upset. If that's not what you mean, feel free to clear it up for me.

I did? Where?

You know what you said. Why do we have to play these games? Are you saying that every time a dog wins it's an upset, and if not, what do you consider an upset? It's really a simple question.

 

[Limp Ditka]

You know what you said. Why do we have to play these games? Are you saying that every time a dog wins it's an upset, and if not, what do you consider an upset? It's really a simple question.

I know exactly what I said. You, on the other hand, seem to have a horrific inability to understand simple english.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

SWEET THREAD

PACKERS 31

BEARS 16

 

[scott72]

You know what you said. Why do we have to play these games? Are you saying that every time a dog wins it's an upset, and if not, what do you consider an upset? It's really a simple question.

I know exactly what I said. You, on the other hand, seem to have a horrific inability to understand simple english.

Well it's quite clear to everyone you have no idea how to explain one of your comments.. Good enough for me..Moving on..

 

[GloryDaze]

Packers by 10. More if McCarthy doesn't intentionally go 3 and out the entire 2nd half.

 

[Limp Ditka]

You know what you said. Why do we have to play these games? Are you saying that every time a dog wins it's an upset, and if not, what do you consider an upset? It's really a simple question.

I know exactly what I said. You, on the other hand, seem to have a horrific inability to understand simple english.

Well it's quite clear to everyone you have no idea how to explain one of your comments.. Good enough for me..Moving on..

I gave specifics of what I thought would constitute an upset. Not sure how that got scrambled in your skull, to the point that it needed an explanation, but it's obviously happened.

 

[Insein]

Don't sleep on the Bears. Eagles aren't that good a team this year and the Bills are god awful. So the Pack haven't been fully tested. Bears grinded out a win despite the errors against the Lions and had an impressive win in Dallas despite the cowboys woes so far. Going into that stadium against the preseason NFC favorites and coming out with the win is impressive.

I think Bears 37-34.

 

[scott72]

Don't sleep on the Bears. Eagles aren't that good a team this year and the Bills are god awful. So the Pack haven't been fully tested. Bears grinded out a win despite the errors against the Lions and had an impressive win in Dallas despite the cowboys woes so far. Going into that stadium against the preseason NFC favorites and coming out with the win is impressive.I think Bears 37-34.

One could say the Bears haven't been tested either then. The Boys are terrible, and they barely got by the Lions at home. That said, it will be a good game. I don't think as many points as you said though.

 

[gigantor]

Da Bears 55

Pack negative 4

 

[Psychopav]

You know what you said. Why do we have to play these games? Are you saying that every time a dog wins it's an upset, and if not, what do you consider an upset? It's really a simple question.

I know exactly what I said. You, on the other hand, seem to have a horrific inability to understand simple english.

Well it's quite clear to everyone you have no idea how to explain one of your comments.. Good enough for me..Moving on..

Limp Ditka's right, you know.You seem to have a mental block since repeatedly ignoring the word "home" in his original post.Wait - you're a Packer backer, right? I think they only learn to read every 3rd word up there anyway. Never mind.

 

[Statcruncher]

IMO if the Bears win it is absolutely an upset. IIRC a home team gets basically 3 points on the line, so if the Bears are -3 that means Vegas has them at -6 on a neutral field. Regardless of whether it's an upset or not, I'm stoked about the game. I can honestly see either team winning and don't think we've seen the best from either team yet. If you put a gun to my head I call it 31 - 24 Packers.

And I'm not going to bother starting a new thread, but I think the Lions top the Vikes 20 - 17.

 

[Insein]

Don't sleep on the Bears. Eagles aren't that good a team this year and the Bills are god awful. So the Pack haven't been fully tested. Bears grinded out a win despite the errors against the Lions and had an impressive win in Dallas despite the cowboys woes so far. Going into that stadium against the preseason NFC favorites and coming out with the win is impressive.I think Bears 37-34.

One could say the Bears haven't been tested either then. The Boys are terrible, and they barely got by the Lions at home. That said, it will be a good game. I don't think as many points as you said though.

Cowboys are not playing well but are talented and were at home. That is difficult regardless. Lions are better than the bottom rung but not quite mediocre. They have a decent offense and will stay in games this year. Way better than the Bills. I think the Eagles are in the mediocre category. Our defense is a work in progress. We looked decent at times in both games but looked like a sieve others. Point is, if we can take from the first 2 games, I would say the Bears have proven more. Add to that that they are at home and they win a tight game.

 

[scott72]

You know what you said. Why do we have to play these games? Are you saying that every time a dog wins it's an upset, and if not, what do you consider an upset? It's really a simple question.

I know exactly what I said. You, on the other hand, seem to have a horrific inability to understand simple english.

Well it's quite clear to everyone you have no idea how to explain one of your comments.. Good enough for me..Moving on..

Limp Ditka's right, you know.You seem to have a mental block since repeatedly ignoring the word "home" in his original post.Wait - you're a Packer backer, right? I think they only learn to read every 3rd word up there anyway. Never mind.

Wow a Bear fan trying to insult a Packer fan. Now if that's not I don't know what is. Anyhow, I'm not going to continue this argument while the Bear fans gang up. I asked him several times to explain his comment to me since he thinks I misconstrued what he said, but he couldn't do it so I moved on. Nuff said..

 

[Samuel L Bronkowitz]

You know what you said. Why do we have to play these games? Are you saying that every time a dog wins it's an upset, and if not, what do you consider an upset? It's really a simple question.

I know exactly what I said. You, on the other hand, seem to have a horrific inability to understand simple english.

Well it's quite clear to everyone you have no idea how to explain one of your comments.. Good enough for me..Moving on..

Limp Ditka's right, you know.You seem to have a mental block since repeatedly ignoring the word "home" in his original post.Wait - you're a Packer backer, right? I think they only learn to read every 3rd word up there anyway. Never mind.

Wow a Bear fan trying to insult a Packer fan. Now if that's not I don't know what is. Anyhow, I'm not going to continue this argument while the Bear fans gang up. I asked him several times to explain his comment to me since he thinks I misconstrued what he said, but he couldn't do it so I moved on. Nuff said..

Packer fan here. He's right. Re-read statcruncher's post. That sums it up. Please stop embarrassing us. TIA.

 

[scott72]

Don't sleep on the Bears. Eagles aren't that good a team this year and the Bills are god awful. So the Pack haven't been fully tested. Bears grinded out a win despite the errors against the Lions and had an impressive win in Dallas despite the cowboys woes so far. Going into that stadium against the preseason NFC favorites and coming out with the win is impressive.I think Bears 37-34.

One could say the Bears haven't been tested either then. The Boys are terrible, and they barely got by the Lions at home. That said, it will be a good game. I don't think as many points as you said though.

Cowboys are not playing well but are talented and were at home. That is difficult regardless. Lions are better than the bottom rung but not quite mediocre. They have a decent offense and will stay in games this year. Way better than the Bills. I think the Eagles are in the mediocre category. Our defense is a work in progress. We looked decent at times in both games but looked like a sieve others. Point is, if we can take from the first 2 games, I would say the Bears have proven more. Add to that that they are at home and they win a tight game.

Clearly you can spin this many ways. The Packers haven't won in Philly in what 50 years or something crazy like that? I agree the Bills win is meaningless, but I really thought there was a decent chance we'd lose the Philly game. I also agree the Bears looked good in Dallas and they caught the Cowboys at a good time. We'll see what happens. Too bad the game is a week away yet.

 

[Go deep]

Bears win in an upset.

Its currently a 3 point spread I think (Packers favored)Both teams 2-0.Usually a competitive game no matter the records.I don't think its much of an upset if Chicago wins at home.

When the books have the home team a 3 point dog, and they win, it's an upset.HTH

Technically its an upset, just not a very bold call.

 

[scott72]

Packer fan here. He's right. Re-read statcruncher's post. That sums it up. Please stop embarrassing us. TIA.

I've read all the posts. There's no reason for anyone to be embarrassed. If you are, then move on. Clearly I misconstrued what he said, but he refused to explain it further. I asked him what he considered an upset, and he couldn't explain that either. No reason at all to continue. TIA

 

[Insein]

Don't sleep on the Bears. Eagles aren't that good a team this year and the Bills are god awful. So the Pack haven't been fully tested. Bears grinded out a win despite the errors against the Lions and had an impressive win in Dallas despite the cowboys woes so far. Going into that stadium against the preseason NFC favorites and coming out with the win is impressive.I think Bears 37-34.

One could say the Bears haven't been tested either then. The Boys are terrible, and they barely got by the Lions at home. That said, it will be a good game. I don't think as many points as you said though.

Cowboys are not playing well but are talented and were at home. That is difficult regardless. Lions are better than the bottom rung but not quite mediocre. They have a decent offense and will stay in games this year. Way better than the Bills. I think the Eagles are in the mediocre category. Our defense is a work in progress. We looked decent at times in both games but looked like a sieve others. Point is, if we can take from the first 2 games, I would say the Bears have proven more. Add to that that they are at home and they win a tight game.

Clearly you can spin this many ways. The Packers haven't won in Philly in what 50 years or something crazy like that? I agree the Bills win is meaningless, but I really thought there was a decent chance we'd lose the Philly game. I also agree the Bears looked good in Dallas and they caught the Cowboys at a good time. We'll see what happens. Too bad the game is a week away yet.

True. True. I guess I'm just more down on my Eagles than most. A defense that lets 32 points and 444 yds to the Lions is not a very good one. Granted the Lions are improving but the Bears found a way to keep them mostly in check the previous week.

 

[ditka311]

Looking forward to this game. I think Cutler and Forte continue their comebacks and edge the Pack in a tight one.

Forte did nothing against the Packers last year. The year before he had a few touchdowns and had some decent receiving yardage but wasn't really that good. Cutler also struggled mightily against the Packers last season. I like the Packers winning here but I think it will be really close. Rodgers hasn't looked sharp at all and the Packers have let both teams hang around a lot longer then they should have without putting foot to throat.

He didnt run for much against dallas last week either...

He didn't run for much against anyone this year. Last year he didn't do a thing - rushing or receiving so I wouldn't be too quick to compare this season vs last season.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Don't sleep on the Bears. Eagles aren't that good a team this year and the Bills are god awful. So the Pack haven't been fully tested. Bears grinded out a win despite the errors against the Lions and had an impressive win in Dallas despite the cowboys woes so far. Going into that stadium against the preseason NFC favorites and coming out with the win is impressive.I think Bears 37-34.

One could say the Bears haven't been tested either then. The Boys are terrible, and they barely got by the Lions at home. That said, it will be a good game. I don't think as many points as you said though.

Cowboys are not playing well but are talented and were at home. That is difficult regardless. Lions are better than the bottom rung but not quite mediocre. They have a decent offense and will stay in games this year. Way better than the Bills. I think the Eagles are in the mediocre category. Our defense is a work in progress. We looked decent at times in both games but looked like a sieve others. Point is, if we can take from the first 2 games, I would say the Bears have proven more. Add to that that they are at home and they win a tight game.

Clearly you can spin this many ways. The Packers haven't won in Philly in what 50 years or something crazy like that? I agree the Bills win is meaningless, but I really thought there was a decent chance we'd lose the Philly game. I also agree the Bears looked good in Dallas and they caught the Cowboys at a good time. We'll see what happens. Too bad the game is a week away yet.

True. True. I guess I'm just more down on my Eagles than most. A defense that lets 32 points and 444 yds to the Lions is not a very good one. Granted the Lions are improving but the Bears found a way to keep them mostly in check the previous week.

Lions aren't all that bad of a hometeam. They're just awful on the road though.

 

[cubbie5150]

Gut feeling this game is gonna be lower-scoring than most everyone thinks. Packers win 20-10

 

[Psychopav]

You know what you said. Why do we have to play these games? Are you saying that every time a dog wins it's an upset, and if not, what do you consider an upset? It's really a simple question.

I know exactly what I said. You, on the other hand, seem to have a horrific inability to understand simple english.

Well it's quite clear to everyone you have no idea how to explain one of your comments.. Good enough for me..Moving on..

Limp Ditka's right, you know.You seem to have a mental block since repeatedly ignoring the word "home" in his original post.Wait - you're a Packer backer, right? I think they only learn to read every 3rd word up there anyway. Never mind.

Wow a Bear fan trying to insult a Packer fan. Now if that's not I don't know what is. Anyhow, I'm not going to continue this argument while the Bear fans gang up. I asked him several times to explain his comment to me since he thinks I misconstrued what he said, but he couldn't do it so I moved on. Nuff said..

Wow a Packer fan getting defensive instead of giving it back in the spirit of rivalry. What a surprise.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Don't sleep on the Bears. Eagles aren't that good a team this year and the Bills are god awful. So the Pack haven't been fully tested. Bears grinded out a win despite the errors against the Lions and had an impressive win in Dallas despite the cowboys woes so far. Going into that stadium against the preseason NFC favorites and coming out with the win is impressive.

I think Bears 37-34.

One could say the Bears haven't been tested either then. The Boys are terrible, and they barely got by the Lions at home. That said, it will be a good game. I don't think as many points as you said though.

Cowboys are terrible. They are the best 0-2 team in the league....they are 2nd in the NFL in passing and 7th in run D(are those terrible rankings?).Barely got by the Lions....the Bears had almost 3 times the amount of yardage of the Lions.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I've put this stat in other threads but the key to this game is Jay Cutler. In his last 4 games he has 13 TDs 2 INTs and is averaging 300 passing yards. Anyway you slice that...it's awesome.

I personally think the Packers don't run the ball at all on the Bears. Pisa and Urlacher have added a lot to the run defense and also freed up Lance Briggs from getting a ton of attention. Lance Briggs is our best defensive player....so the less attention he gets from offenses, the more plays he makes....just like that forced fumble on the 1 vs the Lions.

The Packers run D hasn't been the same as last year. Not sure if that's Jolly being gone or what. But the Eagles(taking out anything Vick did) averaged over 5 yards per carry and the Bills(and that horrid offense) averaged 3.9 a carry. Last year it was 3.6 YPC. It's not like the Eagles or the Bills have great OL's either.

 

[two_dollars]

packers won't run on the Bears, and Rodgers will be running for his life.

Bears 24-17.

Cutler will score more fantasy points than Rodgers.

 

[scott72]

Don't sleep on the Bears. Eagles aren't that good a team this year and the Bills are god awful. So the Pack haven't been fully tested. Bears grinded out a win despite the errors against the Lions and had an impressive win in Dallas despite the cowboys woes so far. Going into that stadium against the preseason NFC favorites and coming out with the win is impressive.

I think Bears 37-34.

One could say the Bears haven't been tested either then. The Boys are terrible, and they barely got by the Lions at home. That said, it will be a good game. I don't think as many points as you said though.

Cowboys are terrible. They are the best 0-2 team in the league....they are 2nd in the NFL in passing and 7th in run D(are those terrible rankings?).Barely got by the Lions....the Bears had almost 3 times the amount of yardage of the Lions.

Stats don't mean anything. Wins do. Bottom line is their 0-2 and playing awful right now with a questionable coaching staff. As far as the Lions, again, could care less the Bears had 3 times the yards, they beat them by 5. Not what I call domination.

 

[scott72]

packers won't run on the Bears, and Rodgers will be running for his life.Cutler will score more fantasy points than Rodgers.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I've put this stat in other threads but the key to this game is Jay Cutler. In his last 4 games he has 13 TDs 2 INTs and is averaging 300 passing yards. Anyway you slice that...it's awesome.

I personally think the Packers don't run the ball at all on the Bears. Pisa and Urlacher have added a lot to the run defense and also freed up Lance Briggs from getting a ton of attention. Lance Briggs is our best defensive player....so the less attention he gets from offenses, the more plays he makes....just like that forced fumble on the 1 vs the Lions.

The Packers run D hasn't been the same as last year. Not sure if that's Jolly being gone or what. But the Eagles(taking out anything Vick did) averaged over 5 yards per carry and the Bills(and that horrid offense) averaged 3.9 a carry. Last year it was 3.6 YPC. It's not like the Eagles or the Bills have great OL's either.

Yeah, this concerns me too. I didn't think the Pack's run D looked particularly stellar either game so far. The loss of Jolly has certainly hurt their depth, if nothing else. Also Cullen Jenkins playing with a club for a hand probably doesn't help either.The Bears are passing the ball very well, in particular making good use of the RBs in the passing game. We don't exactly have a strong history of covering RBs out of the backfield. It could get ugly fast for our defense.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

packers won't run on the Bears, and Rodgers will be running for his life.Cutler will score more fantasy points than Rodgers.

Which part do you find funny?

 

[sho nuff]

I've put this stat in other threads but the key to this game is Jay Cutler. In his last 4 games he has 13 TDs 2 INTs and is averaging 300 passing yards. Anyway you slice that...it's awesome.

I personally think the Packers don't run the ball at all on the Bears. Pisa and Urlacher have added a lot to the run defense and also freed up Lance Briggs from getting a ton of attention. Lance Briggs is our best defensive player....so the less attention he gets from offenses, the more plays he makes....just like that forced fumble on the 1 vs the Lions.

The Packers run D hasn't been the same as last year. Not sure if that's Jolly being gone or what. But the Eagles(taking out anything Vick did) averaged over 5 yards per carry and the Bills(and that horrid offense) averaged 3.9 a carry. Last year it was 3.6 YPC. It's not like the Eagles or the Bills have great OL's either.

Yeah, this concerns me too. I didn't think the Pack's run D looked particularly stellar either game so far. The loss of Jolly has certainly hurt their depth, if nothing else. Also Cullen Jenkins playing with a club for a hand probably doesn't help either.The Bears are passing the ball very well, in particular making good use of the RBs in the passing game. We don't exactly have a strong history of covering RBs out of the backfield. It could get ugly fast for our defense.

Also been nickel d most of the year.

 

[Kleck]

Cutler will score more fantasy points than Rodgers.

I'm starting Cutler over Rodgers in my +2 for INTs league too.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

I've put this stat in other threads but the key to this game is Jay Cutler. In his last 4 games he has 13 TDs 2 INTs and is averaging 300 passing yards. Anyway you slice that...it's awesome.

I personally think the Packers don't run the ball at all on the Bears. Pisa and Urlacher have added a lot to the run defense and also freed up Lance Briggs from getting a ton of attention. Lance Briggs is our best defensive player....so the less attention he gets from offenses, the more plays he makes....just like that forced fumble on the 1 vs the Lions.

The Packers run D hasn't been the same as last year. Not sure if that's Jolly being gone or what. But the Eagles(taking out anything Vick did) averaged over 5 yards per carry and the Bills(and that horrid offense) averaged 3.9 a carry. Last year it was 3.6 YPC. It's not like the Eagles or the Bills have great OL's either.

Yeah, this concerns me too. I didn't think the Pack's run D looked particularly stellar either game so far. The loss of Jolly has certainly hurt their depth, if nothing else. Also Cullen Jenkins playing with a club for a hand probably doesn't help either.The Bears are passing the ball very well, in particular making good use of the RBs in the passing game. We don't exactly have a strong history of covering RBs out of the backfield. It could get ugly fast for our defense.

Agreed here. If Clay Mathews continues his assault on QBs, then we're OK though. The thing that concerns me is that Martz is pretty darn good at exploiting weaknesses, and our secondary is iffy in nickel/dime.As I've said numerous times, pressure trumps this weakness, so it'll be interesting if they can bring it enough to hide Shields.