Greenway Injured (1 Viewer)

[La vittoria è mine]

Looks like Greenway got injured in tonights game.

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) -- Minnesota Vikings rookie linebacker Chad Greenway injured his left knee and didn't return in Monday night's preseason game.Greenway, the team's first-round draft pick from Iowa who is the second-string weakside linebacker behind E.J. Henderson, was covering a kickoff in the first quarter against the Oakland Raiders. He broke through the wedge, but got hurt and limped off the field. After he was examined on the trainer's table behind the bench, Greenway was able to get up and walk around the sideline. Vikings coach Brad Childress said Greenway would have an MRI on Tuesday, but provided no other details.Though he declined to speculate on the severity of the injury, defensive coordinator Mike Tomlin said he felt "sick" for Greenway."I'm disappointed for the kid," he said. "Injuries are a part of the game, and we accept that. But I feel bad for him."

Doesn't sound good?What's up with this: "Though he declined to speculate on the severity of the injury, defensive coordinator Mike Tomlin said he felt "sick" for Greenway." I never heard of anyone feeling sick for someone...

 

[Ministry of Pain]

You do when the person pops their ACL or something like that.

 

[La vittoria è mine]

You do when the person pops their ACL or something like that.

Tis is true... I guess I thought it was weird in the context of this injury.

 

[BlueOnion]

From what I am reading, nobody wants to comment on the topic until the MRI today is performed. Not good for Greenway either way.

 

[MLBrandow]

drafted Greenway in an IDP league.

Who replaces him?

 

[reg]

drafted Greenway in an IDP league.Who replaces him?

See the IDP forum. All TC he has been the backup to EJ.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This aggrivates me to no end. What are you doing putting your potential star linebacker (or any top-flight player for that matter) on special teams in the first pre-season game.

Pre-season special teams units are filled with marginal players wanting to make a name for themselves so they have a chance to make a team. The stars are going to be big-time targets for these types and have no business being on the field with them.

Teams that play their stars on special teams are moronic.

 

[BlueOnion]

This aggrivates me to no end. What are you doing putting your potential star linebacker (or any top-flight player for that matter) on special teams in the first pre-season game.Pre-season special teams units are filled with marginal players wanting to make a name for themselves so they have a chance to make a team. The stars are going to be big-time targets for these types and have no business being on the field with them.Teams that play their stars on special teams are moronic.

I agree, but in Greenway's case he was going to be a special teamer this season.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

This aggrivates me to no end. What are you doing putting your potential star linebacker (or any top-flight player for that matter) on special teams in the first pre-season game.

Pre-season special teams units are filled with marginal players wanting to make a name for themselves so they have a chance to make a team. The stars are going to be big-time targets for these types and have no business being on the field with them.

Teams that play their stars on special teams are moronic.

He's in the NFL now. His mid-late 1st round draft status buys him a few years on the roster, but he's not a star any more. Sounds to me like he's a backup rookie linebacker, and those are exactly the kind of guys who need to earn their keep in the preseason, often on special teams.Edit to add: B.O. beat me to it.

 

[Significant Shrinkage]

Listening to local sports radio this AM, it doesn't sound good. Almost certainly a torn ACL

 

[La vittoria è mine]

*UPDATE (Not Good)*

The knee injury sustained by Minnesota Vikings linebacker Chad Greenway during Monday night's preseason game with the Oakland Raiders could end the rookie's 2006 season, according to reports. An MRI has been scheduled for Tuesday morning, though team officials fear that Greenway has suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament. -Judd Zulgad, Star Tribune

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This aggrivates me to no end. What are you doing putting your potential star linebacker (or any top-flight player for that matter) on special teams in the first pre-season game.

Pre-season special teams units are filled with marginal players wanting to make a name for themselves so they have a chance to make a team. The stars are going to be big-time targets for these types and have no business being on the field with them.

Teams that play their stars on special teams are moronic.

He's in the NFL now. His mid-late 1st round draft status buys him a few years on the roster, but he's not a star any more. Sounds to me like he's a backup rookie linebacker, and those are exactly the kind of guys who need to earn their keep in the preseason, often on special teams.Edit to add: B.O. beat me to it.

That's total bull####. He's a rookie first round draft pick. A guy that, assumptively, you're hoping will be a cornerstone of your defense for the next few years.He doesn't have to "earn his keep" by playing special teams. Not in his rookie year.

 

[BlueOnion]

This aggrivates me to no end. What are you doing putting your potential star linebacker (or any top-flight player for that matter) on special teams in the first pre-season game.

Pre-season special teams units are filled with marginal players wanting to make a name for themselves so they have a chance to make a team. The stars are going to be big-time targets for these types and have no business being on the field with them.

Teams that play their stars on special teams are moronic.

He's in the NFL now. His mid-late 1st round draft status buys him a few years on the roster, but he's not a star any more. Sounds to me like he's a backup rookie linebacker, and those are exactly the kind of guys who need to earn their keep in the preseason, often on special teams.Edit to add: B.O. beat me to it.

That's total bull####. He's a rookie first round draft pick. A guy that, assumptively, you're hoping will be a cornerstone of your defense for the next few years.He doesn't have to "earn his keep" by playing special teams. Not in his rookie year.

Sure they are hoping he will be the cornerstone of the defense, but he still has to earn his playing time. And like everyone else, it starts with special teams (especially as a rookie).The 53-man NFL roster is not designed to have extra roster spots for players who do not start on offense\defense and do not play special teams. And if a spot is made available, it is usually for a veteran like a Jerome Bettis.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Sure they are hoping he will be the cornerstone of the defense, but he still has to earn his playing time. And like everyone else, it starts with special teams (especially as a rookie).The 53-man NFL roster is not designed to have extra roster spots for players who do not start on offense\defense and do not play special teams. And if a spot is made available, it is usually for a veteran like a Jerome Bettis.

That's fine. But my point is that he shouldn't be there in the preseason with all the scrubs looking to make a name for themselves.And he can earn the playing time by performing in his primary position during practice.

 

[msommer]

Sure they are hoping he will be the cornerstone of the defense, but he still has to earn his playing time. And like everyone else, it starts with special teams (especially as a rookie).

The 53-man NFL roster is not designed to have extra roster spots for players who do not start on offense\defense and do not play special teams. And if a spot is made available, it is usually for a veteran like a Jerome Bettis.

That's fine. But my point is that he shouldn't be there in the preseason with all the scrubs looking to make a name for themselves.And he can earn the playing time by performing in his primary position during practice.

He didn't do that though - and that is why he was playing special teams.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Sure they are hoping he will be the cornerstone of the defense, but he still has to earn his playing time. And like everyone else, it starts with special teams (especially as a rookie).

The 53-man NFL roster is not designed to have extra roster spots for players who do not start on offense\defense and do not play special teams. And if a spot is made available, it is usually for a veteran like a Jerome Bettis.

That's fine. But my point is that he shouldn't be there in the preseason with all the scrubs looking to make a name for themselves.And he can earn the playing time by performing in his primary position during practice.

He didn't do that though - and that is why he was playing special teams.

It's the FIRST preseason game. First round picks should get preferential treatment in these regards.

 

[houndirish]

Sure they are hoping he will be the cornerstone of the defense, but he still has to earn his playing time. And like everyone else, it starts with special teams (especially as a rookie).

The 53-man NFL roster is not designed to have extra roster spots for players who do not start on offense\defense and do not play special teams. And if a spot is made available, it is usually for a veteran like a Jerome Bettis.

That's fine. But my point is that he shouldn't be there in the preseason with all the scrubs looking to make a name for themselves.And he can earn the playing time by performing in his primary position during practice.

He didn't do that though - and that is why he was playing special teams.

It's the FIRST preseason game. First round picks should get preferential treatment in these regards.

Charles Rogers and Mike Williams agree!!!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Charles Rogers and Mike Williams agree!!!

They have already proven their suckitude.

 

[BlueOnion]

Sure they are hoping he will be the cornerstone of the defense, but he still has to earn his playing time. And like everyone else, it starts with special teams (especially as a rookie).

The 53-man NFL roster is not designed to have extra roster spots for players who do not start on offense\defense and do not play special teams. And if a spot is made available, it is usually for a veteran like a Jerome Bettis.

That's fine. But my point is that he shouldn't be there in the preseason with all the scrubs looking to make a name for themselves.And he can earn the playing time by performing in his primary position during practice.

He didn't do that though - and that is why he was playing special teams.

It's the FIRST preseason game. First round picks should get preferential treatment in these regards.

That would be the first step in the wrong direction. I am not even sure all proven veterans should be given preferential treatment.

 

[MLBrandow]

When is Greenway's MRI?

 

[BlueOnion]

When is Greenway's MRI?

I assume you are asking for a time, I don't know. All I have heard is sometime today.

 

[MLBrandow]

I presume it would have been around lunchtime.

 

[reg]

http://vikings.com/news_detail_objectname_...wayIR81506.html

The Minnesota Vikings announced today that linebacker Chad Greenway suffered a season ending left knee injury in last night's game vs. Oakland at the Metrodome.

"The toughest part in this business is dealing with the injuries and this is no different," said Vikings head coach Brad Childress. "It's unfortunate because Chad improved during our mini camps, OTA's and training camp. He did a pretty good job in the plays he was in there for last night and made a big tackle on special teams. Chad will evaluate his options in the upcoming weeks and we are confident he will be completely healthy for the 2007 season. Chad will have the full time to rehab."

 

[mario8723]

Sure they are hoping he will be the cornerstone of the defense, but he still has to earn his playing time. And like everyone else, it starts with special teams (especially as a rookie).

The 53-man NFL roster is not designed to have extra roster spots for players who do not start on offense\defense and do not play special teams. And if a spot is made available, it is usually for a veteran like a Jerome Bettis.

That's fine. But my point is that he shouldn't be there in the preseason with all the scrubs looking to make a name for themselves.And he can earn the playing time by performing in his primary position during practice.

He didn't do that though - and that is why he was playing special teams.

It's the FIRST preseason game. First round picks should get preferential treatment in these regards.

This has to be one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen, bar none.

 

[Dazz]

A rookie drafted in the first round is the same as a rookie drafted in the sixth; an untested commodity. The moment you give them preferential treatment and an established roster spot is the moment coaches lose all power over their roster to a group of kids who've never had to fight for playing time. You have to work to gain that status in the NFL, and even then you are never on especially solid ground.

If you want a system where players dictate their coaches actions look at the NBA, and run in fear.

That's not to say I don't feel bad for Greenway, because I do (I was actually hoping he would fall to the Jags during the draft), but it's an occupational hazard and no amount of babying will change that.

 

[pizzatyme]

Sure they are hoping he will be the cornerstone of the defense, but he still has to earn his playing time. And like everyone else, it starts with special teams (especially as a rookie).

The 53-man NFL roster is not designed to have extra roster spots for players who do not start on offense\defense and do not play special teams. And if a spot is made available, it is usually for a veteran like a Jerome Bettis.

That's fine. But my point is that he shouldn't be there in the preseason with all the scrubs looking to make a name for themselves.And he can earn the playing time by performing in his primary position during practice.

He didn't do that though - and that is why he was playing special teams.

It's the FIRST preseason game. First round picks should get preferential treatment in these regards.

This has to be one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen, bar none.

Not to take sides, but "preferential treatment" notwithstanding, I tend to agree with his point. If I am the owner who just paid out Guaranteed $$$ to a 1st round draft pick, I am not using him on kickoff teams in the preseason. I'd have him play with the second and third string defense for most of the game, but not on special teams.Too many bad things can happen on special teams. especially in the preseason.

Just my $0.02

 

[Vikes Fan]

Sure they are hoping he will be the cornerstone of the defense, but he still has to earn his playing time. And like everyone else, it starts with special teams (especially as a rookie).

The 53-man NFL roster is not designed to have extra roster spots for players who do not start on offense\defense and do not play special teams. And if a spot is made available, it is usually for a veteran like a Jerome Bettis.

That's fine. But my point is that he shouldn't be there in the preseason with all the scrubs looking to make a name for themselves.And he can earn the playing time by performing in his primary position during practice.

He didn't do that though - and that is why he was playing special teams.

It's the FIRST preseason game. First round picks should get preferential treatment in these regards.

This has to be one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen, bar none.

Not to take sides, but "preferential treatment" notwithstanding, I tend to agree with his point. If I am the owner who just paid out Guaranteed $$$ to a 1st round draft pick, I am not using him on kickoff teams in the preseason. I'd have him play with the second and third string defense for most of the game, but not on special teams.Too many bad things can happen on special teams. especially in the preseason.

Just my $0.02

Show me proof that more bad things (injuries) happen on special teams as opposed to offense or defense. I don't see how there can be more opportunities for injuries on Special Teams. It seems your chances of getting injured while playing Defense would be greater because of the sheer number of plays you are playing.Greenway was unlucky. He went up against a block and twisted his knee because his plant foot stuck. It could have happened the play before while he was lined up at linebacker.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[pizzatyme]

Sure they are hoping he will be the cornerstone of the defense, but he still has to earn his playing time. And like everyone else, it starts with special teams (especially as a rookie).

The 53-man NFL roster is not designed to have extra roster spots for players who do not start on offense\defense and do not play special teams. And if a spot is made available, it is usually for a veteran like a Jerome Bettis.

That's fine. But my point is that he shouldn't be there in the preseason with all the scrubs looking to make a name for themselves.And he can earn the playing time by performing in his primary position during practice.

He didn't do that though - and that is why he was playing special teams.

It's the FIRST preseason game. First round picks should get preferential treatment in these regards.

This has to be one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen, bar none.

Not to take sides, but "preferential treatment" notwithstanding, I tend to agree with his point. If I am the owner who just paid out Guaranteed $$$ to a 1st round draft pick, I am not using him on kickoff teams in the preseason. I'd have him play with the second and third string defense for most of the game, but not on special teams.Too many bad things can happen on special teams. especially in the preseason.

Just my $0.02

Show me proof that more bad things (injuries) happen on special teams as opposed to offense or defense. I don't see how there can be more opportunities for injuries on Special Teams. It seems your chances of getting injured while playing Defense would be greater because of the sheer number of plays you are playing.Greenway was unlucky. He went up against a block and twisted his knee because his plant foot stuck. It could have happened the play before while he was lined up at linebacker.

Just my 2 cents.

It seems pretty simple to me. He was the wedge buster on the kickoff team per the initial post. If you've ever played football, you know there is significantly more risk as a wedge buster than administering a hit as a linebacker.I'm not trying to be rude, but anytime you get a running start from 30 yards and from many different angles to hit someone, there is more risk for injury. I have no hard facts, but just watch any game this preseason. Count the number of injuries that occur on special teams and compare that to the total number of injuries during non-special teams plays.

I'd be very surprised if the number of injuries per play wasn't higher on special teams.

I guess another minor point to make my argument, is if there were no more risk for injury on special teams, would it make sense to have more of your starting Defense play on special teams since it is an integral part of the game?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This has to be one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen, bar none.

Hyperbole much?

 

[reg]

This has to be one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen, bar none.

Hyperbole much?

He's still pretty green. :5digiter:

 

[msommer]

This has to be one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen, bar none.

Hyperbole much?

He's still pretty green. :5digiter:

 

[Sweet Love]

ESPN's ticker just stated he is out for the year. Tough break for the guy.

 

[ozzy609]

Unfortunate as the injury is, I have no problem with him being in the game at that point in time. He has to earn his spot like everybody else - even if it means playing special teams in preseason. A lot of the Vikings starters play special teams including A. Winfield, who is probably making more than Greenway. Granted he's not doing it in preseason, but that's because he has earned that luxury over the years.

 

[reg]

Unfortunate as the injury is, I have no problem with him being in the game at that point in time. He has to earn his spot like everybody else - even if it means playing special teams in preseason. A lot of the Vikings starters play special teams including A. Winfield, who is probably making more than Greenway. Granted he's not doing it in preseason, but that's because he has earned that luxury over the years.

exactly. it's not like special teams = scrub squad. good players play on special teams because it is a very important part of the game. you will see that on every team.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Unfortunate as the injury is, I have no problem with him being in the game at that point in time. He has to earn his spot like everybody else - even if it means playing special teams in preseason. A lot of the Vikings starters play special teams including A. Winfield, who is probably making more than Greenway. Granted he's not doing it in preseason, but that's because he has earned that luxury over the years.

It's stupid for Winfield to be on special teams too. Even moreso considering he's a veteran.If someone can show me stats where special teams players are hurt at the same rate as offense and defense, I'm willing to change my tune.

 

[RustyFA]

Chad Greenway played special teams every year at Iowa. He wants to be on the field and likely asked to be on them for the Vikes. Hopefully this is just a year injury. Anyone that thinks he wouldn't have started game 1 of the NFL season is a #######' idiot and probably should have their football man card revoked.

 

[ArcticEdge]

First Tank, now Chad...

GEORGE IS GETTING UPSET!!!