Pretty sweet to roster Deuce as well.MisfitBlondes said:Absolutely f'in killed me in both leagues. A zero? Are you kidding?Uhm...you may want to update this.QB: Rodgers | Big Ben | PenningtonRB: All Day | MB III | Chris Johnson | Deuce McAllister | Chester TaylorWR: Andre Johnson | Donnie Avery | Santonio Holmes | Eddie RoyalTE: Shockey | SchefflerKR: PraterDT: Titans | Jets![]()
It had nothing to do with his wrist. The offense just looked terrible, unable to block anybody.I know there was something about his wrist...but no one had it down as a big issue. Im worried this might linger? Was he on the field and just not getting the ball?
but could that mean his wrist was giving him problems with catching it?They didn't block anyone. I saw him drop an easy catch early, then disappear like a fart in the wind.
or it could mean he just needed to fart at an inopportune time.MisfitBlondes said:Yes, it could mean that his wrist was giving him problems.but could that mean his wrist was giving him problems with catching it?They didn't block anyone. I saw him drop an easy catch early, then disappear like a fart in the wind.

As a Jennings manager - he did not get that many targets last week eitherJust hoping it was an aberration and nothing more![]()
I'm right there with you - but I think the o line is more concerning (unless there is a bad injury of some sort).As a Jennings manager - he did not get that many targets last week eitherJust hoping it was an aberration and nothing more![]()
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Fair enough - fixedMisfitBlondes said:Absolutely f'in killed me in both leagues. A zero? Are you kidding?Uhm...you may want to update this.QB: Rodgers | Big Ben | PenningtonRB: All Day | MB III | Chris Johnson | Deuce McAllister | Chester TaylorWR: Andre Johnson | Donnie Avery | Santonio Holmes | Eddie RoyalTE: Shockey | SchefflerKR: PraterDT: Titans | Jets![]()

Will you be looking for rushing attempts and rushing yardage as well? My league gives credit for rushing attempts and this could make a huge difference in my tie game. TIAMisfitBlondes said:I'll go back and review the game tape...I'll report back if I see anything.Im stillby this. No receptions? Really?
Thanks for trying anyway. I figured it was worth a shot.MisfitBlondes said:I don't think Jennings carries the ball for Green Bay but I could be wrong.Will you be looking for rushing attempts and rushing yardage as well? My league gives credit for rushing attempts and this could make a huge difference in my tie game. TIAMisfitBlondes said:I'll go back and review the game tape...I'll report back if I see anything.Im stillby this. No receptions? Really?
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This is what concerns me too. Rodgers is capable of -- and has been these last two games -- spreading it around to some capable WRs and TEs. It's one thing if his targets are down because his wrist was re-injured; it's another if the team is looking at others to move the chains, and just relying on Jennings for a few deep balls per game.TidesofWar said:As a Jennings manager - he did not get that many targets last week eitherMCguidance said:Just hoping it was an aberration and nothing more![]()
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I really believe it's a matter of having time to throw here. Last week Allen Barbre was abused by Adewale Ogunleye; this week after Chad Clifton got hurt Antwan Odom went on a tear.I don't own Jennings, but I did get to see a good portion of the first two Packers games and their o-line is not doing Rodgers or Jennings any favors.This is what concerns me too. Rodgers is capable of -- and has been these last two games -- spreading it around to some capable WRs and TEs. It's one thing if his targets are down because his wrist was re-injured; it's another if the team is looking at others to move the chains, and just relying on Jennings for a few deep balls per game.
I hear that, while he may not have had as much time to throw, Rodgers did have enough time for Driver to be able to go 6/99/1, with 3 other receivers collectively getting 6 for 67. Just feels more that Jennings' performance is more a function of lack of targets than the passing game suffering.I really believe it's a matter of having time to throw here. Last week Allen Barbre was abused by Adewale Ogunleye; this week after Chad Clifton got hurt Antwan Odom went on a tear.I don't own Jennings, but I did get to see a good portion of the first two Packers games and their o-line is not doing Rodgers or Jennings any favors.This is what concerns me too. Rodgers is capable of -- and has been these last two games -- spreading it around to some capable WRs and TEs. It's one thing if his targets are down because his wrist was re-injured; it's another if the team is looking at others to move the chains, and just relying on Jennings for a few deep balls per game.
I hear that, while he may not have had as much time to throw, Rodgers did have enough time for Driver to be able to go 6/99/1, with 3 other receivers collectively getting 6 for 67. Just feels more that Jennings' performance is more a function of lack of targets than the passing game suffering.I really believe it's a matter of having time to throw here. Last week Allen Barbre was abused by Adewale Ogunleye; this week after Chad Clifton got hurt Antwan Odom went on a tear.I don't own Jennings, but I did get to see a good portion of the first two Packers games and their o-line is not doing Rodgers or Jennings any favors.This is what concerns me too. Rodgers is capable of -- and has been these last two games -- spreading it around to some capable WRs and TEs. It's one thing if his targets are down because his wrist was re-injured; it's another if the team is looking at others to move the chains, and just relying on Jennings for a few deep balls per game.

More than half of it is luck. Once you get past the draft I'd say 75% of it is luck. That said, our OL is pathetic right now. Rodgers is constantly running for his life. Jennings had a drop early, but not really anything other than a couple targets after that. The Bengals played a superb game and we have some serious issues at the tackle spot.Why does everyone go nuts after a bad week? Half of this game is luck, is it that hard to understand?
Is it hard for you to understand those that drafted Jennings as their #1 never expected him to catch 0 passes in a game he played all 4qtrs.?Why does everyone go nuts after a bad week? Half of this game is luck, is it that hard to understand?
I believe this is an over reaction. Jennings put up great numbers just a week ago, and it was Drivers' turn today. The Bengals consistently rolled the safety over the top of Jennings, and thus he got fewer targets than normal. Add in a bad drop by Jennings and some terrible blocking by the oline, and you get the 0/0 line. Just as important as improving the blocking is stopping the dropped passes. Several key drops again today that were drive killers. Jennings has not been immune to this so far.jennings goose-egg was a product of a few things...
1. the pass protection was miserable. barbre cant block anyone to begin with, then clifton went down with an ankle injury prompting LG daryn colledge to move to LT. needless to say, things went downhill fast from there.
2. when you are unable to protect the passer, a few things happen.. more players are required to stay in and block (TE's. HB's) and fewer players are allowed to run routes. so when you can blitz 6 guys and only have to defend 3 routes, you tend to take away the bigger threats (driver, jennings) and allow the lesser threats (lee, finley)
3. the packers quick slant game is well documented. teams are starting to key on this and take them away while blitzing.
expect teams to come into games gampelanning on fully exploiting this weakness. this is going to continue unless GB can get decent blocking without needing to keep 7 men in to protect. 80 percent of pass plays today were used with 7 man blocking schemes, and rodgers still didnt have time to throw... this is not going to be an easy fix. this is a HUGE problem, and it could de-rail the packers hopes, and possibly take jennings out of the top 20 for wr.
as a rodgers/jennings owner, and packer fan... count me scared.![]()
I hear that, while he may not have had as much time to throw, Rodgers did have enough time for Driver to be able to go 6/99/1, with 3 other receivers collectively getting 6 for 67. Just feels more that Jennings' performance is more a function of lack of targets than the passing game suffering.
Jennings will never be a high target guy, and when he drops the few chances he does get, he winds up with days like yesterday. Unfortunately, there will be plenty more of the same ahead.Some if it, yes. Do you expect every single game to be 150-2?MisfitBlondes said:So Jennings not being able to catch was because of bad luck?Why does everyone go nuts after a bad week? Half of this game is luck, is it that hard to understand?![]()
No, given that I drafted him as my WR1. I understand it was zero catches, just awful, but it's hysteria around here when there is a bad game by a consensus top 5 guy. Calm down, he will catch a ball again before the end of the year. I saw a lot of the game, the line was god awful, he dropped an easy pass, there was no continuity on offense bc of the line, etc. More than anything I would like to know about his wrist, as his talent and opportunity will not magically disappear in one game.Is it hard for you to understand those that drafted Jennings as their #1 never expected him to catch 0 passes in a game he played all 4qtrs.?Why does everyone go nuts after a bad week? Half of this game is luck, is it that hard to understand?
I've lost sight of the NFL by NOT overreacting?MisfitBlondes said:I think you need to step away from FF, you've clearly lost sight of the NFL.Some if it, yes. Do you expect every single game to be 150-2?MisfitBlondes said:So Jennings not being able to catch was because of bad luck?Why does everyone go nuts after a bad week? Half of this game is luck, is it that hard to understand?![]()

How is the line going to get any better? They haven't even played defenses with great pass rushers that will really test them yet... Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Baltimore. Atleast they have the AFC N teams late so there is a good chanc they will recover by then, but if they don't that's fantasy playoff time. They are weak at both tackles now, this could get really ugly.Some if it, yes. Do you expect every single game to be 150-2?MisfitBlondes said:So Jennings not being able to catch was because of bad luck?Why does everyone go nuts after a bad week? Half of this game is luck, is it that hard to understand?
No, given that I drafted him as my WR1. I understand it was zero catches, just awful, but it's hysteria around here when there is a bad game by a consensus top 5 guy. Calm down, he will catch a ball again before the end of the year. I saw a lot of the game, the line was god awful, he dropped an easy pass, there was no continuity on offense bc of the line, etc. More than anything I would like to know about his wrist, as his talent and opportunity will not magically disappear in one game.Is it hard for you to understand those that drafted Jennings as their #1 never expected him to catch 0 passes in a game he played all 4qtrs.?Why does everyone go nuts after a bad week? Half of this game is luck, is it that hard to understand?
and this will all of a sudden change? Not to mention they were playing bengals....pre-season is over, this offense and team is not going to be as good as all the "experts" thought it was going to be.Some if it, yes. Do you expect every single game to be 150-2?MisfitBlondes said:So Jennings not being able to catch was because of bad luck?Why does everyone go nuts after a bad week? Half of this game is luck, is it that hard to understand?
No, given that I drafted him as my WR1. I understand it was zero catches, just awful, but it's hysteria around here when there is a bad game by a consensus top 5 guy. Calm down, he will catch a ball again before the end of the year. I saw a lot of the game, the line was god awful, he dropped an easy pass, there was no continuity on offense bc of the line, etc. More than anything I would like to know about his wrist, as his talent and opportunity will not magically disappear in one game.Is it hard for you to understand those that drafted Jennings as their #1 never expected him to catch 0 passes in a game he played all 4qtrs.?Why does everyone go nuts after a bad week? Half of this game is luck, is it that hard to understand?
It may not change overnight, but I do not expect that line to be that bad all year, no. I expect that line to be challenged big time this week by the coaching staff and by themselves, it was putrid. I do not think Jennings will get zero catches, either. Has his stock taken a bit of a dip? Certainly. Is it time to give away the farm, that's for each owner to decide. I say no. But thats my opinion - not trying to get into a fight here, simply saying that he has a lot of value.and this will all of a sudden change? Not to mention they were playing bengals....pre-season is over, this offense and team is not going to be as good as all the "experts" thought it was going to be.
These are legitimate points, but I think the biggest issue is the lack of a running game. Grant only had 14 carries, I believe only 4 of which were in the second half, and there were no other carries by any other running back on the team yesterday. There was no need to pass on 70%+ of the plays yesterday and McCarthy put his OL and his QB in a terrible position by failing to even pretend to want to run the ball. I also didn't see much of the short slants and other classic west-coast routes yesterday - seemed they were going for the long ball on at least half of the drop backs. I think the scheme issues were the biggest problem yesterday, than and the fact that the Bengals are really a pretty good defense. I'm pretty confident that Jennings is going to live up to his expectations when all is said and done this season.jennings goose-egg was a product of a few things...1. the pass protection was miserable. barbre cant block anyone to begin with, then clifton went down with an ankle injury prompting LG daryn colledge to move to LT. needless to say, things went downhill fast from there. 2. when you are unable to protect the passer, a few things happen.. more players are required to stay in and block (TE's. HB's) and fewer players are allowed to run routes. so when you can blitz 6 guys and only have to defend 3 routes, you tend to take away the bigger threats (driver, jennings) and allow the lesser threats (lee, finley)3. the packers quick slant game is well documented. teams are starting to key on this and take them away while blitzing. expect teams to come into games gampelanning on fully exploiting this weakness. this is going to continue unless GB can get decent blocking without needing to keep 7 men in to protect. 80 percent of pass plays today were used with 7 man blocking schemes, and rodgers still didnt have time to throw... this is not going to be an easy fix. this is a HUGE problem, and it could de-rail the packers hopes, and possibly take jennings out of the top 20 for wr.as a rodgers/jennings owner, and packer fan... count me scared.![]()
I don't know if there will be "plenty" more ahead. I had Jennings two years ago and he was GREAT. Last year he was better. The recent Jennings trouble is not a trend yet and there is a full year-long trend of success for Jennings/Rodgers. The oline is interesting info and I'll temper expectations, but as long as Rodgers burns teams for over-covering Jennings by passing successfully to others, Jennings will start to get less attention and more production.I hear that, while he may not have had as much time to throw, Rodgers did have enough time for Driver to be able to go 6/99/1, with 3 other receivers collectively getting 6 for 67. Just feels more that Jennings' performance is more a function of lack of targets than the passing game suffering.Jennings will never be a high target guy, and when he drops the few chances he does get, he winds up with days like yesterday. Unfortunately, there will be plenty more of the same ahead.
I watched some of the game - I saw what was going on in regards to real life football. I listed the things that concern me (o line primarily), but still believe that panic is not in order.It still remains that FF is a lot of luck. Actually, if you don't think there is luck on field, too, you're mistaken. But I don't think we are that far apart, as we both understand there are causes for concern here.Yes, you aren't looking at the game. Jennings had 5 targets and 0 catches. All you see is the FF side of things when others are questioning why this happened. Your point about "half of this game is luck" has nothing to do with what happened on the field and everything to do with FF.
Last year was a high water mark based on circumstance. No James Jones last year, and Nelson and Finley weren't the same players they are today, either.NatronIsMean said:I don't know if there will be "plenty" more ahead. I had Jennings two years ago and he was GREAT. Last year he was better. The recent Jennings trouble is not a trend yet and there is a full year-long trend of success for Jennings/Rodgers. The oline is interesting info and I'll temper expectations, but as long as Rodgers burns teams for over-covering Jennings by passing successfully to others, Jennings will start to get less attention and more production.I hear that, while he may not have had as much time to throw, Rodgers did have enough time for Driver to be able to go 6/99/1, with 3 other receivers collectively getting 6 for 67. Just feels more that Jennings' performance is more a function of lack of targets than the passing game suffering.Jennings will never be a high target guy, and when he drops the few chances he does get, he winds up with days like yesterday. Unfortunately, there will be plenty more of the same ahead.
http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blog/roto_...=fantasy,190854Something was going on - maybe he felt like he was being held? I didn't see that at all - but I wonder what was up?Packers receiver Greg Jennings(notes) was held without a catch on Sunday, despite five targets. He dropped one pass and slipped on another. Cincinnati corner Leon Hall(notes) deserves partial credit for the shutout, and so does the Bengals' pass rush. Aaron Rodgers(notes) was harassed all afternoon; Green Bay's decision to use a hologram at left tackle was a calculated risk, and it didn't quite work. Jennings was also flagged for the game-ending penalty. He apparently did not agree with the call:
As the Bengals celebrated referee Ed Hochuli's declaration that the game was over and players poured onto the field, Jennings made a beeline for head linesman Mark Hittner. He berated Hittner for almost a full minute until umpire Chad Brown(notes) came over and stepped between the two. … After the game, Jennings, who for the first time in his career was held without a catch, was in no mood to discuss the play with reporters. When approached, Jennings said, "I'm not talking. I'm serious, I'm not talking."
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Wide receiver Greg Jennings was shut out for the first time in his four-year career. Quarterback Aaron Rodgers threw five passes to him: One of them was dropped; Jennings slipped on another one that probably would have been a completion; one was a slant that had no chance because end Antwan Odom dropped into coverage; one was into triple coverage; and the last was a miss on a short pass near the end of the game. In his previous 44 games, Jennings had been held to one catch six times, all but one of those during his rookie season. The other was in the 2007 NFC Championship Game against the New York Giants. The Bengals paid Jennings proper attention, but it wasn't like they completely sold out to stop him. "They were rolling a safety to his side a lot," Rodgers said. "We tried to get him the ball at different points, just weren't very successful doing that. (Leon) Hall's a good corner, but we still liked that matchup. (Jennings) and I were a little bit off today."