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Greg Olsen is Playing - Impact or Not? BEARS FANS HELP! (1 Viewer)
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Oh come on Bears fans/insiders... If I had posted about Wynn there would be 30 replies already? Whats your take?Rex hasn't looked horrible, a good outlet like Olsen could really improve the whole drastically I think. Crazy?
PatytonsGhost
Footballguy
Though he is most likely to play this weekend, Olsen will be limited with the number of plays he will be in. Down the line he will be able to stretch the field with Clark lining up opposite him but for now I will temper my enthusiasm until he has fully recovered.
I see Olsen as a future TE stud if he is utilized correctly,
is olsen related to Jeremy Shockey ?
see for yourself
http://boisewantsjay.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/olsen.jpg Olsen
http://www.panama-guide.com/images/article...215036378_1.jpg Shockey
I see Olsen as a future TE stud if he is utilized correctly,
is olsen related to Jeremy Shockey ?
see for yourself
http://boisewantsjay.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/olsen.jpg Olsen
http://www.panama-guide.com/images/article...215036378_1.jpg Shockey
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PatytonsGhost
Footballguy
Welcome aboard benm3218
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Footballguy
This is not calling us out?Anyhow, starting (or potentially starting) RBs will always get more attention than second TEs. Most people wait until their thread is off of the front page before bumping it back up.
geoff8695
Footballguy
I don't know how big his impact will be Sunday night against Dallas - but I expect him to help the offense immensely. A TE with Olsen's hands and speed will only help Grossman and the rest of the Bears offense and give them a new threat. Also, for what it's worth, I recall one of the Bears offensive lineman saying how impressive Olsen was and that he would be featured in the offense this year, so much so that he expected Olsen to be in the running for rookie of the year honors...
Englishteacher
Footballguy
Rex Grossman was just cut for Derek Anderson in my league that carries 3 QB's per team (start 1, 12 team league). Wow. I'm not sure which is crazier, picking up a Browns Qb (even after they scored 51 points Sunday) or cutting Grossman for a Browns QB. But, either way, I don't envy this guy's position.
geoff8695
Footballguy
As a Bears fan and someone who was at Soldier Field on Sunday I admit to being highly skeptical myself. As others have surely mentioned the right side of the offensive line was a turnstile and aside from one first half touchdown drive Grossman and the offense didn't look very good.
DoubleG
Footballguy
He will make a significant impact...eventually. It may take a while to get acclaimated to the offense - especially after missing some time. But at 6' 4" and 255 being fast and with good hands he's going to create some mismatch problems. He's too fast for a LB and too big for a SS to cover. I wouldn't bump expectations on Rex this weekend per se, but let's just say by November, Olsen will be fairly well known. BTW, Greg doesn't block - so that will limit his touches somewhat - especially on a Bears team that likes to "get off the plane running."Oh and don't be calling Bears fans out - especially when a Cubs game is on. Some people in the midwest still have baseball teams in the playoff hunt - right Cardinal fans?
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SpecOpLoad
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The thing is, nobody knows what's going to happen with Olsen until we get our first glimpse at him Sunday night; it's all speculation. The coaches have been saying they'll play Hester and even Wolfe on offense and it has been much ado about nothing. The offensive playcalling has been absolutely horrible, it's like they're still playing preseason games with their unimaginative offensive schemes.
flapgreen
Footballguy
I've been a Grossman supporter since the start. When it seemed like everyone else was bashing the guy, I stuck by him. I kepts saying "give him a little more time". "He's shown flashes of greatness and will only get better." Well, I was wrong. I no longer believe in him, and I think he'll be gone after this season. I've given the guy the benefit of the doubt over and over again. I can't do it anymore. He sucks. That's just how it is.As a Bears fan and someone who was at Soldier Field on Sunday I admit to being highly skeptical myself. As others have surely mentioned the right side of the offensive line was a turnstile and aside from one first half touchdown drive Grossman and the offense didn't look very good.
It also appears the team/defense is slowly begginning to turn against him too. I could be wrong there, however.
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Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Rookie TEs rarely make a significant impact. I'm not expecting a whole lot, although he may make a few plays here and there. He likely will be inconsistent.
BroadwayG
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Umm...yes, Rex has looked horrible.Will Olsen be in his ear telling him not to throw it to the defense?Will Olsen be taking the snap for him and giving him the ball gently so he does not drop it?
circelli17
Footballguy
The Bears want Rex to be a QB he simply isn't capable of being. He's at his best when he takes shots down the field and gets aggressive with the ball. However, they're trying to turn him into more of a west coast "low risk" QB and frankly it's setting back his progress.
sholditch
Footballguy
If had to get back on the field after 2 minutes every time I'd be pissed too. I agree with you 100 percent, and hopefully, HOPEFULLY, Bears management and Lovie will stop pretending they think this kid can be a good QB. When I look at guys like Schaub and Campbell, it just makes me sick. Hell, Jeff Garcia would be a mammoth improvement. In all honesty, as much as I would like to see the Bears make another run, what might be best for the team is to let Orton take over at some point, tank the season, and get some good o-linemen in next year's draft, and cut Grossman and sign an FA qb.I've been a Grossman supporter since the start. When it seemed like everyone else was bashing the guy, I stuck by him. I kepts saying "give him a little more time". "He's shown flashes of greatness and will only get better." Well, I was wrong. I no longer believe in him, and I think he'll be gone after this season. I've given the guy the benefit of the doubt over and over again. I can't do it anymore. He sucks. That's just how it is.As a Bears fan and someone who was at Soldier Field on Sunday I admit to being highly skeptical myself. As others have surely mentioned the right side of the offensive line was a turnstile and aside from one first half touchdown drive Grossman and the offense didn't look very good.
It also appears the team/defense is slowly begginning to turn against him too. I could be wrong there, however.
King of the Wolfies
Footballguy
I'm hoping CHI uses him like SD uses Gates. PLEEEEEAAAAASE.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Hold on with all the Rex hate. A few points. First, keep in mind, I am not saying he's similar to any of these, but some stats:Brett Favre - after his first 29 games as a starter - 37 TDs and 37 INTsDrew Brees - after his first 27 games as a starter - 28 TDs and 31 INTs (his 2nd full season as starter his passer rating was 67.5)Peyton Manning - after his first full season (16 games) - 26 TDs & 28 INTS - Passer Rating 71.2Rex Grossman - after 23 games - 27 TDs & 26 INTs - 2006 (first full season ) - Passer Rating of 73.9The point is simply that developing a franchise QB takes time and has growing pains. Chicagoans are not used to that, as we have never had a franchise QB. Is Rex that guy now? No. Could he be? We'll have to wait and see. There's a reason that Rex's contract is up at the end of this year - and a reason the Bears haven't extended it...yet.If had to get back on the field after 2 minutes every time I'd be pissed too. I agree with you 100 percent, and hopefully, HOPEFULLY, Bears management and Lovie will stop pretending they think this kid can be a good QB. When I look at guys like Schaub and Campbell, it just makes me sick. Hell, Jeff Garcia would be a mammoth improvement. In all honesty, as much as I would like to see the Bears make another run, what might be best for the team is to let Orton take over at some point, tank the season, and get some good o-linemen in next year's draft, and cut Grossman and sign an FA qb.I've been a Grossman supporter since the start. When it seemed like everyone else was bashing the guy, I stuck by him. I kepts saying "give him a little more time". "He's shown flashes of greatness and will only get better." Well, I was wrong. I no longer believe in him, and I think he'll be gone after this season. I've given the guy the benefit of the doubt over and over again. I can't do it anymore. He sucks. That's just how it is.As a Bears fan and someone who was at Soldier Field on Sunday I admit to being highly skeptical myself. As others have surely mentioned the right side of the offensive line was a turnstile and aside from one first half touchdown drive Grossman and the offense didn't look very good.It also appears the team/defense is slowly begginning to turn against him too. I could be wrong there, however.
Hold on with all the Rex hate. A few points. First, keep in mind, I am not saying he's similar to any of these, but some stats:Brett Favre - after his first 29 games as a starter - 37 TDs and 37 INTsDrew Brees - after his first 27 games as a starter - 28 TDs and 31 INTs (his 2nd full season as starter his passer rating was 67.5)Peyton Manning - after his first full season (16 games) - 26 TDs & 28 INTS - Passer Rating 71.2Rex Grossman - after 23 games - 27 TDs & 26 INTs - 2006 (first full season ) - Passer Rating of 73.9The point is simply that developing a franchise QB takes time and has growing pains. Chicagoans are not used to that, as we have never had a franchise QB. Is Rex that guy now? No. Could he be? We'll have to wait and see. There's a reason that Rex's contract is up at the end of this year - and a reason the Bears haven't extended it...yet.If had to get back on the field after 2 minutes every time I'd be pissed too. I agree with you 100 percent, and hopefully, HOPEFULLY, Bears management and Lovie will stop pretending they think this kid can be a good QB. When I look at guys like Schaub and Campbell, it just makes me sick. Hell, Jeff Garcia would be a mammoth improvement. In all honesty, as much as I would like to see the Bears make another run, what might be best for the team is to let Orton take over at some point, tank the season, and get some good o-linemen in next year's draft, and cut Grossman and sign an FA qb.I've been a Grossman supporter since the start. When it seemed like everyone else was bashing the guy, I stuck by him. I kepts saying "give him a little more time". "He's shown flashes of greatness and will only get better." Well, I was wrong. I no longer believe in him, and I think he'll be gone after this season. I've given the guy the benefit of the doubt over and over again. I can't do it anymore. He sucks. That's just how it is.As a Bears fan and someone who was at Soldier Field on Sunday I admit to being highly skeptical myself. As others have surely mentioned the right side of the offensive line was a turnstile and aside from one first half touchdown drive Grossman and the offense didn't look very good.
Great points. Look, I am always optimistic... I honestly see improvements in him. What do I mean? He is throwing away(over the heads of his receivers) when the pass is too tough to make or no one is open instead of forcing it. Last year he just threw to guys who were covered and hoped they would make a play. I think once Benson gets further into the groove and Olsen is playing up to speed, you all may be happy with your QB.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Don't leave out all the fumbles now.DoubleG said:Hold on with all the Rex hate. A few points. First, keep in mind, I am not saying he's similar to any of these, but some stats:Brett Favre - after his first 29 games as a starter - 37 TDs and 37 INTsDrew Brees - after his first 27 games as a starter - 28 TDs and 31 INTs (his 2nd full season as starter his passer rating was 67.5)Peyton Manning - after his first full season (16 games) - 26 TDs & 28 INTS - Passer Rating 71.2Rex Grossman - after 23 games - 27 TDs & 26 INTs - 2006 (first full season ) - Passer Rating of 73.9The point is simply that developing a franchise QB takes time and has growing pains. Chicagoans are not used to that, as we have never had a franchise QB. Is Rex that guy now? No. Could he be? We'll have to wait and see. There's a reason that Rex's contract is up at the end of this year - and a reason the Bears haven't extended it...yet.sholditch said:If had to get back on the field after 2 minutes every time I'd be pissed too. I agree with you 100 percent, and hopefully, HOPEFULLY, Bears management and Lovie will stop pretending they think this kid can be a good QB. When I look at guys like Schaub and Campbell, it just makes me sick. Hell, Jeff Garcia would be a mammoth improvement. In all honesty, as much as I would like to see the Bears make another run, what might be best for the team is to let Orton take over at some point, tank the season, and get some good o-linemen in next year's draft, and cut Grossman and sign an FA qb.I've been a Grossman supporter since the start. When it seemed like everyone else was bashing the guy, I stuck by him. I kepts saying "give him a little more time". "He's shown flashes of greatness and will only get better." Well, I was wrong. I no longer believe in him, and I think he'll be gone after this season. I've given the guy the benefit of the doubt over and over again. I can't do it anymore. He sucks. That's just how it is.As a Bears fan and someone who was at Soldier Field on Sunday I admit to being highly skeptical myself. As others have surely mentioned the right side of the offensive line was a turnstile and aside from one first half touchdown drive Grossman and the offense didn't look very good.It also appears the team/defense is slowly begginning to turn against him too. I could be wrong there, however.
I've seen people post stats like these before, comparing him to other qb's, and it's never meant that much to me. Those guys are the best at what they do. They also had less time to prepare than Rex has had. Play or not, this is his 5th year on the team. How much more time are you talking about allowing in developing our "franchise" qb? Honestly, I think he would've already been gone from most other teams in the league by this point. The Bears have been more than patient with him, imo. If he doesn't do it this year, he's not the guy. Right now, he looks terrible out there. His bad games are as bad as any qb I've ever seen. It's his 5th year and he's got a 55.1 qb rating after the 1st 2 games, one against a terrible defense. We need to make another run while we still have Urlacher. He's not gonna play forever. 
flapgreen
Footballguy
That is not the type of statement you like to see about your qb during his 5th season.benm3218 said:DoubleG said:Hold on with all the Rex hate. A few points. First, keep in mind, I am not saying he's similar to any of these, but some stats:Brett Favre - after his first 29 games as a starter - 37 TDs and 37 INTssholditch said:If had to get back on the field after 2 minutes every time I'd be pissed too. I agree with you 100 percent, and hopefully, HOPEFULLY, Bears management and Lovie will stop pretending they think this kid can be a good QB. When I look at guys like Schaub and Campbell, it just makes me sick. Hell, Jeff Garcia would be a mammoth improvement. In all honesty, as much as I would like to see the Bears make another run, what might be best for the team is to let Orton take over at some point, tank the season, and get some good o-linemen in next year's draft, and cut Grossman and sign an FA qb.I've been a Grossman supporter since the start. When it seemed like everyone else was bashing the guy, I stuck by him. I kepts saying "give him a little more time". "He's shown flashes of greatness and will only get better." Well, I was wrong. I no longer believe in him, and I think he'll be gone after this season. I've given the guy the benefit of the doubt over and over again. I can't do it anymore. He sucks. That's just how it is.As a Bears fan and someone who was at Soldier Field on Sunday I admit to being highly skeptical myself. As others have surely mentioned the right side of the offensive line was a turnstile and aside from one first half touchdown drive Grossman and the offense didn't look very good.
Drew Brees - after his first 27 games as a starter - 28 TDs and 31 INTs (his 2nd full season as starter his passer rating was 67.5)
Peyton Manning - after his first full season (16 games) - 26 TDs & 28 INTS - Passer Rating 71.2
Rex Grossman - after 23 games - 27 TDs & 26 INTs - 2006 (first full season ) - Passer Rating of 73.9
The point is simply that developing a franchise QB takes time and has growing pains. Chicagoans are not used to that, as we have never had a franchise QB. Is Rex that guy now? No. Could he be? We'll have to wait and see. There's a reason that Rex's contract is up at the end of this year - and a reason the Bears haven't extended it...yet.
He is throwing away(over the heads of his receivers) when the pass is too tough to make or no one is open instead of forcing it. Last year he just threw to guys who were covered and hoped they would make a play.
I think once Benson gets further into the groove and Olsen is playing up to speed, you all may be happy with your QB.
BroadwayG
Footballguy
Your are missing a little detail that the teams you are mentioning above stunk. They turned it right around when surrounded with a decent supporting cast. If the Bears were in a rebuilding process, I'm sure the Rex hate would go away. Unfortunately, there's not a whole lot to be improved upon on the Bears team except the QB position.DoubleG said:
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whitem0nkey
Footballguy
Clark was like the 8th best TE last year he is no chump. Olsen will be an option but this is like a TEBC when both are healthy. I think by the 2nd half of the season that Olsen will take the lead.
But for now I would take a wait and see approach with him
Not to highjack the thread but i see people use this
what does that mean?
But for now I would take a wait and see approach with him
Not to highjack the thread but i see people use this
what does that mean?
sho nuff
Footballguy
The point is...this is Rex's 5th year in the league...between injuries and showing no signs of improvement its crazy.You keep talking these...first "full" seasons...and so on.Its crazy.Quit making excuses for the guy.He has never shown he can be a consistent QB that is capable of leading a team.DoubleG said:
sholditch
Footballguy
Exactly, you put a capable QB in and you have a super-bowl team, and I for one am sick of seeing one of the best Bears teams since 85 wasted to allow a QB to develop who hasn't shown any signs of improving. Furthermore, Florida QB.
