Gruden's QB Camp on ESPN Tonight at 7pm EST (1 Viewer)

[OMG! Ponies!]

Here are some clips from the show.

Tebow: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5080617

Bradford: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5074305

McCoy: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5086484

Clausen: haven't found it yet.

Pretty good stuff. Can't wait for the full show.

 

[werdnoynek]

great stuff thus far on the small segments they've been showing. i'm definitely tuning in.

 

[No Way Jose]

Does anyone else find it ironic that Gruden is the QB guy? He's a great coach, but he always struggled to find QB's as a HC.

 

[shamrock84]

Pretty sure Waldman drives a HONDA...

 

[Homer @ RJ]

Does anyone else find it ironic that Gruden is the QB guy? He's a great coach, but he always struggled to find QB's as a HC.

He turned Brad Johnson around into one of (if not his best) year in 02 when they won the Super Bowl. He won 11 games and a division with Chris Simms. He won 18 games over two years with the corpse of Jeff Garcia. He even won a few games with Bruce Gradkowski. He also created a monster in Rich Gannon.He never developed a young QB (which was his demise in Tampa), but he's always had decent to good QB play.

 

[Matt Waldman]

Pretty sure Waldman drives a HONDA...

LOL...close enough. In many respects Gruden did make his name off Rich Gannon. I loved the way he initiated Colt McCoy in the segment I saw. It was fun TV.

 

[werdnoynek]

yeah, on PFT they were suggesting that Gruden is doing this to show his coaching prowess in hope of landing a job... who knows if thats what's really going on here. regardless its pretty entertaining stuff. i really enjoyed seeing him break down some plays with the guys and getting their take on it, why they did what they did on that particular play. pretty priceless imo.

 

[No Way Jose]

Does anyone else find it ironic that Gruden is the QB guy? He's a great coach, but he always struggled to find QB's as a HC.

He turned Brad Johnson around into one of (if not his best) year in 02 when they won the Super Bowl. He won 11 games and a division with Chris Simms. He won 18 games over two years with the corpse of Jeff Garcia. He even won a few games with Bruce Gradkowski. He also created a monster in Rich Gannon.He never developed a young QB (which was his demise in Tampa), but he's always had decent to good QB play.

I will agree with you there....just seems like he went through a bunch of retreads, but never found "his guy"

 

[ty247]

Colt McCoy got a little pissed off at the end of that lol

Here's Clausens:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5089195

 

[OMG! Ponies!]

Colt McCoy got a little pissed off at the end of that lol

Here's Clausens:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5089195

you da bomb dizzle.

 

[Homer @ RJ]

This is fantastic stuff.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

yeah, on PFT they were suggesting that Gruden is doing this to show his coaching prowess in hope of landing a job... who knows if thats what's really going on here. regardless its pretty entertaining stuff. i really enjoyed seeing him break down some plays with the guys and getting their take on it, why they did what they did on that particular play. pretty priceless imo.

Has PFT ever wona Super Bowl? Gruden's resume speaks for itself, hec ould be coaching if he wanted to, however the fact is he is still collecting from Tampa Bay and also making a lucrative nut from ESPN and MNF. I don't think he is auditioning for an NFL job, I think he takes his job seriously and wants to be the best. He wants to be thought of as Madden was if he can. He might only be in the booth for 2-3 years but as long as he is, there will be little doubt who the best broadcaster is while he is on air.

I know you were just reporting PFT

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Does anyone else find it ironic that Gruden is the QB guy? He's a great coach, but he always struggled to find QB's as a HC.

One, HC's don't have as much hands on teaching with players.Two, Gruden played QB in college.Three, learning QB play from Montana/Young/Favre was a good experience.Lastly, I believe Josh Johnson would've been amazing with him, if he kept the job.

 

[Your Mom]

yeah, on PFT they were suggesting that Gruden is doing this to show his coaching prowess in hope of landing a job... who knows if thats what's really going on here. regardless its pretty entertaining stuff. i really enjoyed seeing him break down some plays with the guys and getting their take on it, why they did what they did on that particular play. pretty priceless imo.

Has PFT ever wona Super Bowl? Gruden's resume speaks for itself, hec ould be coaching if he wanted to, however the fact is he is still collecting from Tampa Bay and also making a lucrative nut from ESPN and MNF. I don't think he is auditioning for an NFL job, I think he takes his job seriously and wants to be the best. He wants to be thought of as Madden was if he can. He might only be in the booth for 2-3 years but as long as he is, there will be little doubt who the best broadcaster is while he is on air.

I know you were just reporting PFT

Can't believe I am going to say this and it might be the first and last time I do.I agree with what MOP said. My thoughts exactly.

 

[werdnoynek]

yeah, on PFT they were suggesting that Gruden is doing this to show his coaching prowess in hope of landing a job... who knows if thats what's really going on here. regardless its pretty entertaining stuff. i really enjoyed seeing him break down some plays with the guys and getting their take on it, why they did what they did on that particular play. pretty priceless imo.

Has PFT ever wona Super Bowl? Gruden's resume speaks for itself, hec ould be coaching if he wanted to, however the fact is he is still collecting from Tampa Bay and also making a lucrative nut from ESPN and MNF. I don't think he is auditioning for an NFL job, I think he takes his job seriously and wants to be the best. He wants to be thought of as Madden was if he can. He might only be in the booth for 2-3 years but as long as he is, there will be little doubt who the best broadcaster is while he is on air.

I know you were just reporting PFT

i agree w/ everything you said. and the bold i'm loving gruden on MNF, great insight always. this show was great as well. i just thought i'd add to what other people were suggesting is all. two sides to every story, right or wrong. for the record, i disagree with what pft was suggesting.

 

[offdee]

Just got done watching this. Absolutely loved it.

As an ex-QB (college only), I love the technical side of the game.....the reads, the progressions, the nuances, etc. When I'm watching an NFL game I'm always trying to break down defenses and put myself in the place of the QB of 1st and 2nd reads.

Man, I miss the days in the film room, and this definitely brought me back a little bit. Such an exciting and nerve teetering time for those guys, can only imagine the highs and lows those guys go through at that level of competition.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I thought it was pretty interesting.

Was it my imagination, or was Clausen the only guy who actually friggin' took notes? I didn't see any of the other guys doing it. Blew my mind.

As big of a chode as Clausen is purported to be at times, you have to give him that much credit....when you get a shot to sit down with an ex-NFL HC and break down your tape, don't waste it by sitting there with a dry erase marker in your mouth(looking at you, Sam Bradford).

 

[Mr. Peterson]

And my man crush on Tebow only gets bigger...

 

[QUEZILLA]

Does anyone else find it ironic that Gruden is the QB guy? He's a great coach, but he always struggled to find QB's as a HC.

He turned Brad Johnson around into one of (if not his best) year in 02 when they won the Super Bowl. He won 11 games and a division with Chris Simms. He won 18 games over two years with the corpse of Jeff Garcia. He even won a few games with Bruce Gradkowski. He also created a monster in Rich Gannon.He never developed a young QB (which was his demise in Tampa), but he's always had decent to good QB play.

He never had a young pedigree to develop. First thing I thought of when he was telling McCoy not to disrespect coaches by changing play was his relationship with Garcia. It apparently pissed him off when Garcia took over.

 

[Donnybrook]

I thought it was pretty interesting.Was it my imagination, or was Clausen the only guy who actually friggin' took notes? I didn't see any of the other guys doing it. Blew my mind.As big of a chode as Clausen is purported to be at times, you have to give him that much credit....when you get a shot to sit down with an ex-NFL HC and break down your tape, don't waste it by sitting there with a dry erase marker in your mouth(looking at you, Sam Bradford).

Yeah Clausen wrote "Coach Gruden's advice is don't throw interceptions." No Sh$^. Total waste of ink and paper.

 

[Matt Waldman]

I thought it was pretty interesting.Was it my imagination, or was Clausen the only guy who actually friggin' took notes? I didn't see any of the other guys doing it. Blew my mind.As big of a chode as Clausen is purported to be at times, you have to give him that much credit....when you get a shot to sit down with an ex-NFL HC and break down your tape, don't waste it by sitting there with a dry erase marker in your mouth(looking at you, Sam Bradford).

McCoy took notes once I think.Colt McCoy definitely seemed peeved about getting picked on. I enjoyed that Gruden picked the two games where McCoy got sacked 21 times. No matter how "mobile" he is, he didn't show it against two of the better college defenses. Total speculation, but I got the impression McCoy was simply a camera light and a famous coach away from getting seriously ticked off with the testing Gruden dished out. The southern drawl part was hilarious. Reminds me of a BBQ commercial in Athens where they literally have two hillbillies in a truck talking like Gruden (it was so hard to understand, they literally had to put subtitles with the commercial after its first week on-air). I loved how Gruden set up Bradford with the "can you throw a wet ball?" Bradford got sucked right into that one. I can see why some teams might be concerned with Bradford's passion for the game. He admitted that he lost passion for the game through his answer about regaining while hurt as a senior. Bradford comes across as a quietly intelligent guy who does his talking with his actions. I have a pretty neutral opinion about Clausen's purported immaturity early in his career (give a young man an opportunity to grow up and make some mistakes), but I will say that it seemed that Clausen was the one QB of the bunch that blamed other people: slow play calling, his receiver getting the hand signal, but not following it, not having enough time to focus solely on football, etc.. I was impressed with Tebow as a person. I can see why Gruden and Jim Kelly liked him so much. He says the right things. He's showing the work ethic to take care of some of his fundamental technique problems. Encouraging stuff. I also like that he's not showing up to the draft. It shows he's not about the ego trip or at least has the self-awareness to anticipate getting drafted later (even if J-ville's owner decides to play the NFL's version of a rookie fantasy owner at his first draft). I hope I'm wrong about him and he becomes an NFL quality passer. I just think he still has too much to prove to be anything more than a fifth round pick. The film segments on the show stunk for the most part. Selfishly, I wanted to see a better breakdown and the camera lighting often washed out the TV screen. There were still some nice tidbits. Especially liked what Gruden noted about Clausen's lazy five-step drop that should have been a three-step, Tebow's repeated hitches and throwing blind, and McCoy not finding the TE soon enough on that double-post play. I just wish we could have had Gruden do this with Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman, and Davis last year.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

I thought it was pretty interesting.Was it my imagination, or was Clausen the only guy who actually friggin' took notes? I didn't see any of the other guys doing it. Blew my mind.As big of a chode as Clausen is purported to be at times, you have to give him that much credit....when you get a shot to sit down with an ex-NFL HC and break down your tape, don't waste it by sitting there with a dry erase marker in your mouth(looking at you, Sam Bradford).

You kidding?You are impressed because Claussen jotted down one piece of information on his notepad? You think once he left that interview he folded that piece of paper into his pocket to carry around to remind him cause he forgot? If you didn't remember the one point Gruden tried to hammer home and you needed that scribble on your notepad to remind you then you don't belong in the NFL.

 

[Avery]

Colt McCoy got a little pissed off at the end of that lol

Here's Clausens:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5089195

I'm a bigger fan of Clausen and less of a fan of McCoy after these clips.I realize it's just TV, but Clausen seemed respectful and quite coachable and McCoy seemed petulant.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I thought it was pretty interesting.Was it my imagination, or was Clausen the only guy who actually friggin' took notes? I didn't see any of the other guys doing it. Blew my mind.As big of a chode as Clausen is purported to be at times, you have to give him that much credit....when you get a shot to sit down with an ex-NFL HC and break down your tape, don't waste it by sitting there with a dry erase marker in your mouth(looking at you, Sam Bradford).

You kidding?You are impressed because Claussen jotted down one piece of information on his notepad? You think once he left that interview he folded that piece of paper into his pocket to carry around to remind him cause he forgot? If you didn't remember the one point Gruden tried to hammer home and you needed that scribble on your notepad to remind you then you don't belong in the NFL.

I didn't say I was 'impressed' with him at all. I said it blew my mind that he was apparently the only guy that bothered to bring a pencil to the damn meeting. I don't recall seeing the other guys doing it(unless slobbering on a dry erase marker counts). I just gave him credit for actually looking like he was taking it more seriously.If you think taking notes when you get a shot to talk to an 'expert' about your job isn't a good idea, regardless of what your gig is, then I've got nothing that'll ever change your mind.

 

[offdee]

Hey, you know who #24 is on the Jets? Do you think defensive players like that deserve some respect? Would you like to put your face in that fan over there?

 

[Homer @ RJ]

I thought it was pretty interesting.Was it my imagination, or was Clausen the only guy who actually friggin' took notes? I didn't see any of the other guys doing it. Blew my mind.As big of a chode as Clausen is purported to be at times, you have to give him that much credit....when you get a shot to sit down with an ex-NFL HC and break down your tape, don't waste it by sitting there with a dry erase marker in your mouth(looking at you, Sam Bradford).

Yeah Clausen wrote "Coach Gruden's advice is don't throw interceptions." No Sh$^. Total waste of ink and paper.

Yea, because that's all Gruden said.Hard to believe somebody could watch that show and only take that from it.

 

[Homer @ RJ]

He was hard on McCoy, but he's right. You can't have that dumb hillbilly twang when you're barking out orders to a crowded huddle with 70,000 fans making noise.

I got the impression that is how Gruden is during sessions with his QBs. I don't think he pulls any punches.

 

[Rodeojones]

Watched the episode and came away feeling differently about McCoy. I didn't see him as being "petulant" but more so understanding the mistakes he made. I thought he was frustrated with himself more then being upset with Gruden.

Also noticed on the shots of the game tape, Colt McCoy was written "Cult"....

 

[Avery]

Watched the episode and came away feeling differently about McCoy. I didn't see him as being "petulant" but more so understanding the mistakes he made. I thought he was frustrated with himself more then being upset with Gruden.Also noticed on the shots of the game tape, Colt McCoy was written "Cult"....

It could be a personality thing or it could just be that he was expecting more of a fluff piece instead of criticism so it might not mean much at all but having been in a supervisory role for years I get a feeling about the way people take criticism as it equates with their ability to progress in their jobs. Some are more open to it and listen and some seem more defensive. I find the defensive ones are less willing or able to change and improve their performance as easily. Colt seemed very defensive to me.Again, it's just a TV piece and probably doesn't mean much.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Can the NFL Network get a Faulk RB camp going to counter this?

 

[werdnoynek]

Can the NFL Network get a Faulk RB camp going to counter this?

or we could get matt waldman doing it RSP style!!! i'd pay alot of money for that lol... though it would probably break me.

 

[Matt Waldman]

Watched the episode and came away feeling differently about McCoy. I didn't see him as being "petulant" but more so understanding the mistakes he made. I thought he was frustrated with himself more then being upset with Gruden.Also noticed on the shots of the game tape, Colt McCoy was written "Cult"....

It could be a personality thing or it could just be that he was expecting more of a fluff piece instead of criticism so it might not mean much at all but having been in a supervisory role for years I get a feeling about the way people take criticism as it equates with their ability to progress in their jobs. Some are more open to it and listen and some seem more defensive. I find the defensive ones are less willing or able to change and improve their performance as easily. Colt seemed very defensive to me.Again, it's just a TV piece and probably doesn't mean much.

He did seem a little more defensive, but I think Rodeojones does point out a good thing about him understanding how we screwed up that double post play. His defensiveness wasn't a problem. The same way that Clausen's mildly pointing the finger at others for the failings pointed out by Gruden is a different and equal defensive mechanism. I didn't think any of those four guys showed anything that would make you think: "forget him, take him off my draft board." I couldn't imagine any of them acting that nutty anyhow.

 

[radiohead417]

I don't buy a lot of the Gruden stuff. He is a one man hype machine in the MNF box. Everyone is the best player in the league. I'll take the time to watch everything, but to say I'm skeptical is an understatement. I wonder if he's the worst head coach to ever win a championship. You know, besides Belichick

Quick edit - Barry Switzer wins. Can't believe I forgot about him.

 

[Matt Waldman]

Can the NFL Network get a Faulk RB camp going to counter this?

or we could get matt waldman doing it RSP style!!! i'd pay alot of money for that lol... though it would probably break me.

LOL! I'd just like to be a fly on the wall with Faulk reviewing film with RBs, Gruden with QBs, or Jerry Rice with WRs for that matter. I'd pay just to sit in. I actually pitched a story to Sports Illustrated this winter where I might have had this opportunity to watch film with former pros as they taught the fine points of their position to rookie prospects, but they essentially said it was the type of piece they envisioned a staffer doing there. I'm going to pitch the story again next year with other national publications because I believe I will have more time and contacts to get it done. I have the contact in the training facility now and I had good foundational reporting for my query to SI, but the timing was simply too late to really do what I wanted to do. Next year...

 

[Avery]

Watched the episode and came away feeling differently about McCoy. I didn't see him as being "petulant" but more so understanding the mistakes he made. I thought he was frustrated with himself more then being upset with Gruden.Also noticed on the shots of the game tape, Colt McCoy was written "Cult"....

It could be a personality thing or it could just be that he was expecting more of a fluff piece instead of criticism so it might not mean much at all but having been in a supervisory role for years I get a feeling about the way people take criticism as it equates with their ability to progress in their jobs. Some are more open to it and listen and some seem more defensive. I find the defensive ones are less willing or able to change and improve their performance as easily. Colt seemed very defensive to me.Again, it's just a TV piece and probably doesn't mean much.

He did seem a little more defensive, but I think Rodeojones does point out a good thing about him understanding how we screwed up that double post play. His defensiveness wasn't a problem. The same way that Clausen's mildly pointing the finger at others for the failings pointed out by Gruden is a different and equal defensive mechanism. I didn't think any of those four guys showed anything that would make you think: "forget him, take him off my draft board." I couldn't imagine any of them acting that nutty anyhow.

I agree with all that.Again, I don't pretend that seeing a two minute edited TV piece would give anyone great insight into someone's personality or ability and willingness to learn. Kinda like a quick conversation with someone. You get impressions. Some may be right and some may be wrong but nothing really definitive.Was real interesting though and far more intriguing that watching them give canned answers to yet another ex-NFL player with a mic.

 

[werdnoynek]

Can the NFL Network get a Faulk RB camp going to counter this?

or we could get matt waldman doing it RSP style!!! i'd pay alot of money for that lol... though it would probably break me.

LOL! I'd just like to be a fly on the wall with Faulk reviewing film with RBs, Gruden with QBs, or Jerry Rice with WRs for that matter. I'd pay just to sit in. I actually pitched a story to Sports Illustrated this winter where I might have had this opportunity to watch film with former pros as they taught the fine points of their position to rookie prospects, but they essentially said it was the type of piece they envisioned a staffer doing there. I'm going to pitch the story again next year with other national publications because I believe I will have more time and contacts to get it done. I have the contact in the training facility now and I had good foundational reporting for my query to SI, but the timing was simply too late to really do what I wanted to do. Next year...

wow, that would be amazing. plz keep us updated! this show was a huge success imo, i would hope they could do it for others (positions as well) in years to come. seeing what these kids have to say about their own mistakes and successes on tape in game situations is something we miss out on. it was a great idea.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Colt McCoy got a little pissed off at the end of that lol

Here's Clausens:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5089195

I'm a bigger fan of Clausen and less of a fan of McCoy after these clips.I realize it's just TV, but Clausen seemed respectful and quite coachable and McCoy seemed petulant.

That's an interesting take, as I see it 180 degrees out. I saw Claussen as not passionate and no fire. I kept thinking "there's no way this guy leads a huddle". McCoy? Give me a guy with something to prove and a chip on his shoulder. Not only did have all the right answers but I believe he will put forth the effort needed to make him an NFL QB. I do have to admit that Gruden's chiding him over the drawl ("I missed about 30% of that") was hilarious - but I could see that being a concern in the huddle. It's strange, but you often don't think of a QB's enunciation in the huddle but it is pretty vital.

Bottom line for me was that I wouldn't want to go to war with Claussen, but I would consider it with McCoy.

 

[Avery]

Colt McCoy got a little pissed off at the end of that lol

Here's Clausens:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5089195

I'm a bigger fan of Clausen and less of a fan of McCoy after these clips.I realize it's just TV, but Clausen seemed respectful and quite coachable and McCoy seemed petulant.

That's an interesting take, as I see it 180 degrees out. I saw Claussen as not passionate and no fire. I kept thinking "there's no way this guy leads a huddle". McCoy? Give me a guy with something to prove and a chip on his shoulder. Not only did have all the right answers but I believe he will put forth the effort needed to make him an NFL QB. I do have to admit that Gruden's chiding him over the drawl ("I missed about 30% of that") was hilarious - but I could see that being a concern in the huddle. It's strange, but you often don't think of a QB's enunciation in the huddle but it is pretty vital.

Bottom line for me was that I wouldn't want to go to war with Claussen, but I would consider it with McCoy.

Sitting down with a coach I was looking more at a willingness to learn point of view rather than a "let me at 'em" point of view.Passion is great but if you aren't receptive to learning and can't step up your game play than all the chips on your shoulder and fire in your belly doesn't mean much.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Colt McCoy got a little pissed off at the end of that lol

Here's Clausens:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5089195

I'm a bigger fan of Clausen and less of a fan of McCoy after these clips.I realize it's just TV, but Clausen seemed respectful and quite coachable and McCoy seemed petulant.

That's an interesting take, as I see it 180 degrees out. I saw Claussen as not passionate and no fire. I kept thinking "there's no way this guy leads a huddle". McCoy? Give me a guy with something to prove and a chip on his shoulder. Not only did have all the right answers but I believe he will put forth the effort needed to make him an NFL QB. I do have to admit that Gruden's chiding him over the drawl ("I missed about 30% of that") was hilarious - but I could see that being a concern in the huddle. It's strange, but you often don't think of a QB's enunciation in the huddle but it is pretty vital.

Bottom line for me was that I wouldn't want to go to war with Claussen, but I would consider it with McCoy.

Sitting down with a coach I was looking more at a willingness to learn point of view rather than a "let me at 'em" point of view.Passion is great but if you aren't receptive to learning and can't step up your game play than all the chips on your shoulder and fire in your belly doesn't mean much.

It's a fine line I think - because when you're at the NFL Combine you're sitting down with an instructor who is also someone who might draft you - and they're the same person.Think of it as an interview - you want to show that you have the confidence and passion to get the job done, but it is true that you don't want to alienate the coach as to your not being coachable.

To me, Claussen came off as not being as driven as the other QBs to succeed. That'd be a concern for me.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

I really enjoyed this. I'd like to see other positions covered.

 

[Avery]

Colt McCoy got a little pissed off at the end of that lol

Here's Clausens:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5089195

I'm a bigger fan of Clausen and less of a fan of McCoy after these clips.I realize it's just TV, but Clausen seemed respectful and quite coachable and McCoy seemed petulant.

That's an interesting take, as I see it 180 degrees out. I saw Claussen as not passionate and no fire. I kept thinking "there's no way this guy leads a huddle". McCoy? Give me a guy with something to prove and a chip on his shoulder. Not only did have all the right answers but I believe he will put forth the effort needed to make him an NFL QB. I do have to admit that Gruden's chiding him over the drawl ("I missed about 30% of that") was hilarious - but I could see that being a concern in the huddle. It's strange, but you often don't think of a QB's enunciation in the huddle but it is pretty vital.

Bottom line for me was that I wouldn't want to go to war with Claussen, but I would consider it with McCoy.

Sitting down with a coach I was looking more at a willingness to learn point of view rather than a "let me at 'em" point of view.Passion is great but if you aren't receptive to learning and can't step up your game play than all the chips on your shoulder and fire in your belly doesn't mean much.

It's a fine line I think - because when you're at the NFL Combine you're sitting down with an instructor who is also someone who might draft you - and they're the same person.Think of it as an interview - you want to show that you have the confidence and passion to get the job done, but it is true that you don't want to alienate the coach as to your not being coachable.

To me, Claussen came off as not being as driven as the other QBs to succeed. That'd be a concern for me.

It's a valid point of view as well.As I said, it's hard to gauge much in an edited 2 minute segment although it's a welcome breath of fresh air from the repetitive pre-draft interviews.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

It's a valid point of view as well.As I said, it's hard to gauge much in an edited 2 minute segment although it's a welcome breath of fresh air from the repetitive pre-draft interviews.

Agreed.Still a good 60 minutes.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

The replay is on right now.

 

[bweiser]

The replay is on right now.

yeah, this is pretty good. love the 'ffca' - fired football coaches of america.

 

[bellmar]

Anybody know when it is going to be shown again ?

Thanks,

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I thought it was pretty interesting.

Was it my imagination, or was Clausen the only guy who actually friggin' took notes? I didn't see any of the other guys doing it. Blew my mind.

As big of a chode as Clausen is purported to be at times, you have to give him that much credit....when you get a shot to sit down with an ex-NFL HC and break down your tape, don't waste it by sitting there with a dry erase marker in your mouth(looking at you, Sam Bradford).

I loved how Gruden set up Bradford with the "can you throw a wet ball?" Bradford got sucked right into that one. I can see why some teams might be concerned with Bradford's passion for the game. He admitted that he lost passion for the game through his answer about regaining while hurt as a senior. Bradford comes across as a quietly intelligent guy who does his talking with his actions.

Bold = Joey HarringtonI'm just saying.

 

[Idiot Boxer]

Just got done watching this. Absolutely loved it.

As an ex-QB (college only), I love the technical side of the game.....the reads, the progressions, the nuances, etc. When I'm watching an NFL game I'm always trying to break down defenses and put myself in the place of the QB of 1st and 2nd reads.

Man, I miss the days in the film room, and this definitely brought me back a little bit. Such an exciting and nerve teetering time for those guys, can only imagine the highs and lows those guys go through at that level of competition.

Really? I would have sworn I'd seen your :style: in the pros.

 

[Warpig]

Does anyone else find it ironic that Gruden is the QB guy? He's a great coach, but he always struggled to find QB's as a HC.

He turned Brad Johnson around into one of (if not his best) year in 02 when they won the Super Bowl. He won 11 games and a division with Chris Simms. He won 18 games over two years with the corpse of Jeff Garcia. He even won a few games with Bruce Gradkowski. He also created a monster in Rich Gannon.He never developed a young QB (which was his demise in Tampa), but he's always had decent to good QB play.

I agree with all of this except the part about Gannon. Gannon was a stud here in KC. Unfortunately, he was forced to ride the pine behind the super studs ( ) like Elvis Grbac and Steve Bono just to name a couple, because the coaching staffs and GM here couldn't recognize talent. All the fans here knew Gannon was good, he always showed flashes of greatness when he got to play due to an injury to the guys in front of him.Gruden had no part in Gannon's ability other than he was willing to give Gannon the keys to the car. KC fans are still bitter about Gannon going to Oaktown.

 

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I was impressed with Tebow as a person. I can see why Gruden and Jim Kelly liked him so much. He says the right things. He's showing the work ethic to take care of some of his fundamental technique problems. Encouraging stuff. I also like that he's not showing up to the draft. It shows he's not about the ego trip or at least has the self-awareness to anticipate getting drafted later (even if J-ville's owner decides to play the NFL's version of a rookie fantasy owner at his first draft). I hope I'm wrong about him and he becomes an NFL quality passer. I just think he still has too much to prove to be anything more than a fifth round pick.

I have only seen the linked clips, but in regards to Tebow's personality and lack of ego, it really hit me that at the end of the workout at the high school one of the kids wanted to do "Tebow on 3" but Tebow immediately changed it to "Hard work on 3".

 

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Watching this year's batch. Just finished up Jake Locker. Now, Gruden's working with a box of rocks...oh wait, I'm sorry, that's Ryan Mallett in the other chair.