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#1 overall?
#1 as in quarterbacks. over brady, manning, rivers and warner. like i said. gut feeling only!!! think about it. he threw 34 tds with an unhealthy gates, a declining lt. and jackson didnt even have a monster season. hoping for 4500 yards passing with 38 tds. hoping for 40 but thats a stretch.
Kinda what I thought.
David- who is your QB 'uber value play' for this season? Not trying to threadjack but I'm thinking Schaub or McNabb but Donovan is usually drafted in the 5th round so that may not be a value spot for him.
but you can say the sames for these other teams. to be honest, i see the chargers being more pass oriented this year. i think they are only gonna rely more on phillip's arm this year now that we see what he can do when he has the green light to throw and is not just a caretaker letting lt get all the carries. i see them utilizing sproles in the passing game also. to me, they have too many weapons to rely on that ball control offense. 2) i think we are gonna see more of pierre thomas and dare i say it reggie bush and less passing from brees. guys im looking at this comparison (the 2006 colts)manning- 4397 yards 31 tds- i see rivers doing that this year if not morejoseph addai had 226 carries. i see lt getting about the same. maybe 240-250manning had wayne and harrison. both having 1300 yards. while the chargers wont do that. i see jackson with 1100 yards and maybe 8 tds. gates with 800-900 yards with 10 tds. chambers might have 6 tds. i mean fellas, rivers is only gonna build on this year, not fall back
I'd really temper your expectations. I currently have Rivers as my QB #7. I think last year was Rivers' ceiling, not his floor. Historically speaking, large spikes in production are usually followed by a bit of a drop off, not even larger spikes. If I had to project his numbers I'd give him, roughly, 3,900 yds and 25 td's.My reasons being that he does not have elite receiving talent around him. Gates' best days are clearly behind him and he's become an injury risk. I might be in the minority here but I don't see Vincent Jackson as being that great. I look at it this way, he was the #1 WR on a team that passed a lot last year and barely managed to crack 1,000 yds and 7 td's. pretty pedestrian numbers for a #1. Chris Chambers is, and always has been, overrated. Sproles and Floyd will help, but they'll have to for Rivers to even approach last year's numbers.Turner LOVES to run on the goal line. This is indisputable. It's just the way he coaches. It will cost Rivers td's that other qb's might get in similar situations.The stars are just not aligned for this one.
I don't see that at all.Gonzalez was still going strong at 32, Gates will only be 29.He was injured last year but all reports out of camp are that he is healthy and dominating more than ever.[QUOTE='David Yudkin]IMO, Rivers will have to up his passing attempts a fair amount in order to surpass last year.
David Yudkin said:
SD ran a lot less and scored a lot fewer rushing TD. SD defense was not very good and the offense took to passing more percentage wise and scored more through the air. Shorter drives that resulted in receiving TD instead of short TD plunges. Better defense = more attempt to extend drives = more rushing TD = fewer passing TD.David Yudkin said:
exactly, you aren't getting the old lt. if you think you're gonna see a ball controlled offense with an aging lt and a non- every down back in sproles, you are kidding yourselves. they just don't have the personnel to run that run oriented offense anymore.kevinallen said:I'm sure that if Norv was asked if he would like to see the 25 year old LT2 line up in his backfield he would say OF COURSE.Hoart Petterson said:
He had 1,100 and 7 last year...
Gates is 29 Bro. Far from old for a TE, ecpecially an a ultra-athletic one like Gates. I clearly believe he has plenty left in the tank.
this is a actually a really nice comparison. I did a write-up on Ben's PA/TD ratio having been completely out of line for what he accomplished in 2007 and that his numbers were sure to drop. Which they did. ALOT. I think Rivers is in a slightly better position than the Ben situation, so i dont think the numbers drop as drastically for Rivers from 08 to 09. Im looking for something more in the line of 3800-4000 pass yards with 23-27 td's. not bad at all.
Probably a better chance of him doing it than Rivers.
