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Guys Id like to see FBG add to staff (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter NorrisB
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Most of them don't want to be on staff. I think I remember ebf being offered a spot and he declined.
Once it becomes a "job" the fun leaves for many people. Also I'm sure the pay is minuscule so not much benefit to being on staff unless it's to get exposure to move onto something bigger.
Once it becomes a "job" the fun leaves for many people. Also I'm sure the pay is minuscule so not much benefit to being on staff unless it's to get exposure to move onto something bigger.
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
Thanks, but I don't know enough to do that, nor would I want to. I don't spend enough time that it would take to be effective. I know just enough to be a decent FF owner and that's about it. I've made some very bad decisions in this hobby just like a lot of you, as well as some good ones, just like a lot of you. Besides, I've rocked the boat too many times here and been put on timeout because of it 
You know, circumventing the language filter and stuff. I'm trying not to do that anymore. I appreciate the confidence Norris. I also enjoy your posts.
You know, circumventing the language filter and stuff. I'm trying not to do that anymore. I appreciate the confidence Norris. I also enjoy your posts.
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eakfootball
Footballguy
Andy D deserves it.
saintfool
Dead sexy
what makes you think that?
Couch Potato
Footballguy
If I worked as staff I'd expect to be paid...
Mark Wimer
Moderator
Nowhere near that fine number, Couch Potato
- sigh... Regarding the "fun" angle - the upsides of competing against the other staff in fantasy football leagues/meeting other high-caliber fantasy owners in the industry through our various venues (The Audible/FBG's Players Contest/etc.) has definitely enhanced my experiences in the fantasy football field. On balance, I find the positives of being on staff outweigh the (few) negatives.But I have gotten used to the board going all
when my opinions run counter to accepted wisdom on one player or another. Just part of the territory.
Rodeojones
Footballguy
I have always appreciated EBF's contributions and Go Deep comes to mind as well.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Wait. We get paid?
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
Go Deep easily. No ones rankings comes close. His spreadsheet is better than anything FBG has to offer. Only guy that I would put close is Fear and Loathing and when it comes down to it I would still prefer Go Deep.
No Way Jose
Footballguy
Looks like Johnny/Hoss made another screen name--NorrisB
ItsOnlytheRiver
Footballguy
Fear and Loathing is my go to Dynasty guy, of course, he's already published on another site.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Good God that's some serious manlove...what are you, like his cousin or something?
Hoss_Cartwright
Footballguy
This is just wrong on so many levels. Please don't insult NorrisB that way. While I think NorrisB is a good guy, I'm embarrassed by my name being mentioned in the OP and wish it wasn't. People take enough pop shots at me (some of it deserved) without adding fuel to the fire with threads like this.
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Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
LHUCKS
FBG should then run a yearly contest to see if anyone can do worse with their player projections.
FBG should then run a yearly contest to see if anyone can do worse with their player projections.
Yep. It's less fun when you're NOT in charge too.I worked at XpertSports for 4-6 months or so back in the day...until the owner there got all
because he seemed to think I was a little too big for my britches (sharing ideas for how we could make things better...with him apparently taking that as me trying to horn in on his action). Then I worked as a goon on the FBGs news team for about four years. Got along great with the bosses and The Dons...but the self-appointed "second" boss of the News Blogger (who shall remain unnamed) decided to make me public enemy #1 because? You guessed it...I have a brain, and had the nerve to suggest a few ideas for doing things a little better. Joe and David eventually decided to save a buck or two and outsource the news, which I agreed with from a practical/business sense. Most guys on the team were VERY part-time...and quality control was spotty, at best (2-3 bad apples or guys who didn't care about sphelling, grammer, and snetencez that dodn't make a lot of cents making the entire team look bad). I then helped Jeff Pasquino try and get DynastyGuys off the ground for about a year...until he got his leash yanked and tightened around here last August.And then it hit me: it's just FFL. It's fun, but it rings SOOOOOO hollow as a "job." We have hundreds of thousands in our nation with nowhere to sleep tonight, my community has had six "100 year floods" in about 30 months, and our economy is on the brink of collapse. With all the talents/gifts/education I've been fortunate enough to receive in my life, FFL would be a colossal waste of those talents. "Will Kenny Britt or Tampa Mike Williams have the better production over the next ten years?!" Seriously...who the #### really cares?! I do, in the sense of wanting to have bragging rights if I call it right and make my hobby/recreation time a little more fun. But as a job?! Please. Is there a bigger waste of talent for an adult man than spending weeks researching/debating topics like that?!
To each his/her own. Personally though, I'm done wasting time/gifts on something as trivial as fantasy sports. It's bad enough the time I spend just researching players for drafts, waivers, trades, et al...much less putting in 5-10 times more time doing it as a "job" to help other people waste their talents/gifts as well (time spent away from their careers, their volunteerism, their talents).
Okay, gotta go duck for cover now...
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Chest Rockwell
Footballguy
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
You are coming across as bitter.Why do we have movie theatres and pay actors?Yep. It's less fun when you're NOT in charge too.I worked at XpertSports for 4-6 months or so back in the day...until the owner there got all
And then it hit me: it's just FFL. It's fun, but it rings SOOOOOO hollow as a "job." We have hundreds of thousands in our nation with nowhere to sleep tonight, my community has had six "100 year floods" in about 30 months, and our economy is on the brink of collapse. With all the talents/gifts/education I've been fortunate enough to receive in my life, FFL would be a colossal waste of those talents. "Will Kenny Britt or Tampa Mike Williams have the better production over the next ten years?!" Seriously...who the #### really cares?! I do, in the sense of wanting to have bragging rights if I call it right and make my hobby/recreation time a little more fun. But as a job?! Please. Is there a bigger waste of talent for an adult man than spending weeks researching/debating topics like that?!
To each his/her own. Personally though, I'm done wasting time/gifts on something as trivial as fantasy sports. It's bad enough the time I spend just researching players for drafts, waivers, trades, et al...much less putting in 5-10 times more time doing it as a "job" to help other people waste their talents/gifts as well (time spent away from their careers, their volunteerism, their talents).
Okay, gotta go duck for cover now...
Why is their cable TV?
Why have professional sports?
Why would anyone work at a casino?
Why is Vegas even a city?
Why do people choose music as a career?
People do things they enjoy. We can spend our livea spinning wheels and questioning thousands of things in this world and. Sometimes jobs make a difference in other people's lives and sometimes they don't. I don't think any less of someone choosing a career they enjoy. If you are able to make ends meet and enjoy something that is not directly hurtiny anyone against their will than power to you. Embrace a country where people have choice.
I probably am bitter, VERY bitter...but not for the reasons you think. I think I'm bitter for realizing that I spent 5-6 years of my life wasting time. 5-6 years I can't have back. Call it a mid-life crisis (probably), but I (we all) have a finite amount of time to make our positive dent on the planet while hopefully having a little fun along the way. It's when the "little fun along the way" drowns out the part about us also "making our positive dent on the planet" that I call into question. I'm not judging other people...I'm judging myself. I was personally tried and convicted of spending too much time ####ing around when I should have spent more of that time making a bigger mark on the lives of those around me. And I'm still on house arrest and probation from my self-imposed sentencing...
Other people are in charge of their own lives, so they can do whatever they want! I'm just saying that, for me? Enough messing around.
Instinctive
Footballguy
If I'm doing something I enjoy, it's not wasting time. I would rather use "all my gifts and talents" enjoying and bettering the life of myself, and the lives of those I love and who love me.
5-6 years of doing football stuff for my job sounds awesome. A couple of my friends work in OU's Football Office for the coaches, and I'm next on the list if somebody leaves this year. I'm incredibly excited. No way would I rather spend more time volunteering somewhere or work in disaster relief or anything where perhaps I could (would) make a huge impact, but be bored or hate what I do, or even like ti but know that I could have been doing or could be doing something which I would enjoy much more.
The fact that you needed to post about how you'd rather be making a difference in the world says somethign about you - and it's not altruism. You do what you do because it makes you feel important. And if that's what is enjoyable in your life, more power to you. I know what I enjoy...Watching football, playing basketball, finance, law, and reading. I'll probably end up on Wall Street or in a law firm, watching football on the weekends, playing basketball after work, and reading before bed.
And everything that I gain from that will be mine, and if I enjoy it, it will be worth it. If I don't enjoy it, I'll change it. Really couldn't give a #### if that makes a big mark on the world or if it only impacts my friends and family. The thought that every person should be trying to leave their positive mark on the world on purpose is silly to me. Every person should live their life to enjoy it, without damaging the ability of others to do the same. If you just do the right thing(s) in your everyday life, the world will be better, and you'll enjoy life.
No reason to get all preachy (which I've now done
) and come into a thread that had an interesting, kind of fun premise (see who the board in general respects the most regarding their football opinions) and talk about how stupid it is that anyone is here. Get over yourself.
5-6 years of doing football stuff for my job sounds awesome. A couple of my friends work in OU's Football Office for the coaches, and I'm next on the list if somebody leaves this year. I'm incredibly excited. No way would I rather spend more time volunteering somewhere or work in disaster relief or anything where perhaps I could (would) make a huge impact, but be bored or hate what I do, or even like ti but know that I could have been doing or could be doing something which I would enjoy much more.
The fact that you needed to post about how you'd rather be making a difference in the world says somethign about you - and it's not altruism. You do what you do because it makes you feel important. And if that's what is enjoyable in your life, more power to you. I know what I enjoy...Watching football, playing basketball, finance, law, and reading. I'll probably end up on Wall Street or in a law firm, watching football on the weekends, playing basketball after work, and reading before bed.
And everything that I gain from that will be mine, and if I enjoy it, it will be worth it. If I don't enjoy it, I'll change it. Really couldn't give a #### if that makes a big mark on the world or if it only impacts my friends and family. The thought that every person should be trying to leave their positive mark on the world on purpose is silly to me. Every person should live their life to enjoy it, without damaging the ability of others to do the same. If you just do the right thing(s) in your everyday life, the world will be better, and you'll enjoy life.
No reason to get all preachy (which I've now done
) and come into a thread that had an interesting, kind of fun premise (see who the board in general respects the most regarding their football opinions) and talk about how stupid it is that anyone is here. Get over yourself.
squistion
Footballguy
Well, that would seem to explain what happened to that site, after it started out so well.
On those two bolded sentences above:First one. I don't think I do what I do because it makes me feel important. I do what I do because it makes me feel good. And not "feel good" in the sense of pride and having things named for me after I die. Rather, feeling good in the sense of hopefully teaching, leading by example, instilling a sense of responsibility and work ethic in my kids, and inspiring others to hopefully follow what they feel a passion for and make the lives beyond themselves and their circle of family/friends better in the process. For me, my "fixes" are parks/recreation/outdoors, the environment, and "efficiency." Efficiency is harder to explain...but basically it is getting things done faster/better/cleaner/cheaper right here in the US of A, thereby making things more accessible/affordable to a larger pool of people without shipping all our jobs over to India and SE Asia.If I'm doing something I enjoy, it's not wasting time. I would rather use "all my gifts and talents" enjoying and bettering the life of myself, and the lives of those I love and who love me.
5-6 years of doing football stuff for my job sounds awesome. A couple of my friends work in OU's Football Office for the coaches, and I'm next on the list if somebody leaves this year. I'm incredibly excited. No way would I rather spend more time volunteering somewhere or work in disaster relief or anything where perhaps I could (would) make a huge impact, but be bored or hate what I do, or even like ti but know that I could have been doing or could be doing something which I would enjoy much more.
The fact that you needed to post about how you'd rather be making a difference in the world says somethign about you - and it's not altruism. You do what you do because it makes you feel important. And if that's what is enjoyable in your life, more power to you. I know what I enjoy...Watching football, playing basketball, finance, law, and reading. I'll probably end up on Wall Street or in a law firm, watching football on the weekends, playing basketball after work, and reading before bed.
And everything that I gain from that will be mine, and if I enjoy it, it will be worth it. If I don't enjoy it, I'll change it. Really couldn't give a #### if that makes a big mark on the world or if it only impacts my friends and family. The thought that every person should be trying to leave their positive mark on the world on purpose is silly to me. Every person should live their life to enjoy it, without damaging the ability of others to do the same. If you just do the right thing(s) in your everyday life, the world will be better, and you'll enjoy life.
No reason to get all preachy (which I've now done
Second one. Here's the problem. I agree with the concept of living one's life to enjoy it. Completely. The problem lies in people having radically different opinions regarding the "damaging the ability of others to do the same." For example, how many (probably) billions in lost productivity is taken out of our US economy on an annual basis so that guys can fritter away time at "JesusGuys.com" (and all other sites like it) instead of doing their jobs?!
It's not hurting anybody...well, except those companies whose profits/proficiency/efficiency suffer...correct?! Or how about a ba-zillion threads in the FFA. Driving drunk, doing drugs, having random/anonymous sex, et al is a "victimless crime," correct?! Nobody gets hurt in one's pursuit of happiness, right?! 
I know I come off as preachy...which bothers me, as it makes people tune me out. I just don't know how else to do/say some of the stuff I've learned over the past 40 years. And the thought of saying nothing and keeping my big mouth shut bothers me even more than having lots of 20-somethings tune me out as "the Reverend," so I do my best unintentional bull in a china shop impersonation and hope at least a couple people can see through the wind-baggery.
As to the OP's question about staffers?! Pete Hodes would get my vote.
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Chest Rockwell
Footballguy
:softball:
Instinctive
Footballguy
1. If that's what you like to do, then you're doing the right thing. But don't try to sugarcoat it with some "I realized I could be doing more good for the world" bull#### when, in reality, you just didn't like what you were doing, and you like what you do now. I take no issue with that, but rather with the way you seem to believe there's an altruism behind it. You're doing it for you. Period.2. I agree. I'm generally of the opinion that most of the time simply staying within the law accomplishes the goal of not damaging others' pursuits. Could I be more wishy washy on that? It is indeed a complex subject.On those two bolded sentences above:First one. I don't think I do what I do because it makes me feel important. I do what I do because it makes me feel good. And not "feel good" in the sense of pride and having things named for me after I die. Rather, feeling good in the sense of hopefully teaching, leading by example, instilling a sense of responsibility and work ethic in my kids, and inspiring others to hopefully follow what they feel a passion for and make the lives beyond themselves and their circle of family/friends better in the process. For me, my "fixes" are parks/recreation/outdoors, the environment, and "efficiency." Efficiency is harder to explain...but basically it is getting things done faster/better/cleaner/cheaper right here in the US of A, thereby making things more accessible/affordable to a larger pool of people without shipping all our jobs over to India and SE Asia.If I'm doing something I enjoy, it's not wasting time. I would rather use "all my gifts and talents" enjoying and bettering the life of myself, and the lives of those I love and who love me.
5-6 years of doing football stuff for my job sounds awesome. A couple of my friends work in OU's Football Office for the coaches, and I'm next on the list if somebody leaves this year. I'm incredibly excited. No way would I rather spend more time volunteering somewhere or work in disaster relief or anything where perhaps I could (would) make a huge impact, but be bored or hate what I do, or even like ti but know that I could have been doing or could be doing something which I would enjoy much more.
The fact that you needed to post about how you'd rather be making a difference in the world says somethign about you - and it's not altruism. You do what you do because it makes you feel important. And if that's what is enjoyable in your life, more power to you. I know what I enjoy...Watching football, playing basketball, finance, law, and reading. I'll probably end up on Wall Street or in a law firm, watching football on the weekends, playing basketball after work, and reading before bed.
And everything that I gain from that will be mine, and if I enjoy it, it will be worth it. If I don't enjoy it, I'll change it. Really couldn't give a #### if that makes a big mark on the world or if it only impacts my friends and family. The thought that every person should be trying to leave their positive mark on the world on purpose is silly to me. Every person should live their life to enjoy it, without damaging the ability of others to do the same. If you just do the right thing(s) in your everyday life, the world will be better, and you'll enjoy life.
No reason to get all preachy (which I've now done
Second one. Here's the problem. I agree with the concept of living one's life to enjoy it. Completely. The problem lies in people having radically different opinions regarding the "damaging the ability of others to do the same." For example, how many (probably) billions in lost productivity is taken out of our US economy on an annual basis so that guys can fritter away time at "JesusGuys.com" (and all other sites like it) instead of doing their jobs?!
I know I come off as preachy...which bothers me, as it makes people tune me out. I just don't know how else to do/say some of the stuff I've learned over the past 40 years. And the thought of saying nothing and keeping my big mouth shut bothers me even more than having lots of 20-somethings tune me out as "the Reverend," so I do my best unintentional bull in a china shop impersonation and hope at least a couple people can see through the wind-baggery.
As to the OP's question about staffers?! Pete Hodes would get my vote.
3. You don't sound like "the Reverend," you sound like you think you're a saint and others should be too. To be blunt and (hopefully) helpful to you.
4. I do not know Pete Hodes
aperbag:Also, I take offense to being categorized as a twenty-something
I'm not.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
Studs n Duds
squistion
Footballguy
I dunno if that's a good idea...it would probably double the price of the Rookie Scouting Portfolio.
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Mike
Footballguy
Same price, half the time, so it is more likely he keeps doing it.
AmosMoses
Footballguy
Why would it be the same price? I'm sure the clone would want equal amount of money for the effort.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
This thread is just too weird.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
This thread has been wrecked. We usually have 1 or 2 of these a year, whether it's posters who could be on staff or posters you most agree with/like to read.
As Couch Potato mentioned, this thread is now too weird.
As Couch Potato mentioned, this thread is now too weird.
mcintyre1
Footballguy
I agree that Go Deep has done a stellar job setting up and displaying his rankings, but I disagree with a lot of his values within his rankings. Particularly when it comes to young players. Far too many rooks high in the rankings for my taste. Its a shame (for us) that Fear and Loathing got snatched up by Rotoworld, as I do really miss his regular insights in the Dynasty Rankings thread. Hell, I even miss SSOG
Instinctive
Footballguy
Yeah, where the hell did SSOG go? I don't think his site has been updated much either...I agree that Go Deep has done a stellar job setting up and displaying his rankings, but I disagree with a lot of his values within his rankings. Particularly when it comes to young players. Far too many rooks high in the rankings for my taste. Its a shame (for us) that Fear and Loathing got snatched up by Rotoworld, as I do really miss his regular insights in the Dynasty Rankings thread. Hell, I even miss SSOG
squistion
Footballguy
Good question. SSOG has been absent from this forum pretty much since early October (he did return briefly for 2-3 days in December) and his website has an abandoned look to it. Very odd for someone who was such a prolific and verbose poster to just vanish like that.Although I don't like to admit it, I miss him too. We never saw eye to eye on dynasty philosophy or strategy and argued constantly over that. But he was very knowledgeable and despite bombarding people with factoids and statistics, occasionally made some very astute observations. I hope everything is going well with him and that he finds his way back here someday.Yeah, where the hell did SSOG go?I agree that Go Deep has done a stellar job setting up and displaying his rankings, but I disagree with a lot of his values within his rankings. Particularly when it comes to young players. Far too many rooks high in the rankings for my taste. Its a shame (for us) that Fear and Loathing got snatched up by Rotoworld, as I do really miss his regular insights in the Dynasty Rankings thread. Hell, I even miss SSOG
I don't think his site has been updated much either...
GridironMenace
Footballguy
You mean like your statement that Ingram isn't going to be good because he wasn't a top 10 pick? How come Tom Brady didn't go #1 overall? Or #2? Or in the 1st round? Or the 4th?But I have gotten used to the board going all
Shane Falco
Footballguy
They need to subtract before they add
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
This
