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[gump]

Morning, sallies. Waking up with an horrendous hangover, still trying to figure out what happened.I said before the game it would come down to 4-6 plays, and whoever got the most to go their way would win. I think the Skins went 6-0.Congrats on the win. Good luck in Seattle...

 

[malice]

Malice is a dork.

Go skins

Sorry Cap and gump, it was a weird game.

Good night fellas.

Nice...we've resorted to childish namecalling.Explain to me how the Skins-

-minus Springs

-minus Harris for a number of plays

-minus Wynn

-minus Portis for half the game

-starting Rogers with a torn muscle

-minus Taylor for most of the 2nd half

weren't ripe for the picking? You don't get a postseason team on its heels any more than that. If the pass to Shepherd had been held onto, the odds would have been largely against the Skins' offense that had been lulled to sleep in the 2nd half to get something going to even get another FG. After the Brunell INT and a number of shots in the red zone, this game could have EASILY gone against you. If you fail to even recognize that, then you're a fan of the dumbest caliber. True fans are willing to recognize and critique their teams' faults even more than their successes.

Bottom line is that the Skins won and good for them for managing to hold on...but just like when they started 3-0, if you're crowing superiority and looking past the growing list of injuries and lack of killer instinct (outside of the defense), you're fooling yourself.

 

[Johnny Ice]

The better team definately lost yesterday but the Skins did what they had to - to win.

Even the 2 skins fans at the party yesterday was hanging their heads saying... WOW. We sucked and won. LOL!

Oh well. The skins wont last another game with an offense like that... unless they can get a couple more lucky tips.

Congrats Redskins, won the game on the score board and that is the only place you did.

 

[Hawkeyeskin]

The better team definately lost yesterday but the Skins did what they had to - to win.

Even the 2 skins fans at the party yesterday was hanging their heads saying... WOW. We sucked and won. LOL!

Oh well. The skins wont last another game with an offense like that... unless they can get a couple more lucky tips.

Congrats Redskins, won the game on the score board and that is the only place you did.

WAAAAHHHHH!!

 

[JZilla]

LOL.. "Better team lost" shtick never gets old.

 

[jwvdcw]

Dude, you cant root for 2 teams and you cant root for teams all across the US.  If you were born and raised in Baltimore, you root for the Orioles, Ravens/Colts/Redskins (not all three), Bullets (Wizards) and Capitals.

Guys like Jason Wood that root for the White Sox, Eagles and Pheonix Suns are phonies and sell outs too.

I was raised in Gaithersburg, MD. Its about 30 minutes from DC and Baltimore, and we get great coverage of both. I'm a huge fan of the Terps, Ravens, Skins, Orioles, Nationals, and Wizards. Always have been and always will be...no bandwagon jumping here.

Skins territory.So when the Ravens and the Redskins play each other in SB XLI, which one are you going to root for?

Most probably Redskins. The only way I would root for the Ravens over the Redskins would be if I really like their players/coaches more on the current teams, and that is not true now and would never be true for as long as Gibbs is coach. I think the last time they played was in 2000(the Ravens super bowl year), and I rooted for the Redskins then.

 

[JZilla]

Dude, you cant root for 2 teams and you cant root for teams all across the US.  If you were born and raised in Baltimore, you root for the Orioles, Ravens/Colts/Redskins (not all three), Bullets (Wizards) and Capitals.

Guys like Jason Wood that root for the White Sox, Eagles and Pheonix Suns are phonies and sell outs too.

I was raised in Gaithersburg, MD. Its about 30 minutes from DC and Baltimore, and we get great coverage of both. I'm a huge fan of the Terps, Ravens, Skins, Orioles, Nationals, and Wizards. Always have been and always will be...no bandwagon jumping here.

Skins territory.So when the Ravens and the Redskins play each other in SB XLI, which one are you going to root for?

Most probably Redskins. The only way I would root for the Ravens over the Redskins would be if I really like their players/coaches more on the current teams, and that is not true now and would never be true for as long as Gibbs is coach. I think the last time they played was in 2000(the Ravens super bowl year), and I rooted for the Redskins then.

The Ravens called, you're not a fan. Glad we could clear that up.

When the Nationals play the Orioles in the 2032 World Series, which one will you root for?

 

[jwvdcw]

Ok...where is Capella?  I'm sure he isn't still stuck in traffic.  He was sooooo confident that the Bucs would win, I would like to hear his opinion on why the Bucs are no longer in the playoffs.

Enjoy the offseason~!  As I said earlier, Simms and Cadilac were not prepared for the post season, as was evident by their 3 turnovers which lead to the Buc's demise.

BTW - There were a lot more than 1,000 skins fans in attendance this afternoon.

Also - there is pure evidence that Tampa is a Bandwagon town.  Anyone remember the pre-snap where Simms and the ENTIRE offense spent 10 full seconds BEGGING the Tampa crowd to be quite prior to an offensive snap?  Pitiful....

This means nothing, I remember seeing Marino tell Miami to shut up. Every team has bandwagoners, but just remember we had a losing team that was supported by the community for 30 years.

LOL...please define "supported by the community."

jvwdcw the innocent victim bashing Bucs fans right here. Who started what again?

Yes, after the game was over, I bashed the Bucs as much as I could, especially to the posters who had bashed the Skins. I'm not disputing that at all.Here is the basic outline of this thread:

1. Redskins start 2-0

2. I start a thread saying that I think they'll be 10-6 and make the wild card

3. I get bashed a ton for this

4. After the make the playoffs at 10-6, I bump the thread a bunch and attack those bashers. Most of them don't show up.

5. The other Skins fans and myself start talking about the first round matchup. I give my analysis and say that the Skins are 55% likely to win.

6. Capella disagrees and argues and reminds me that he'll bump my posts if they lose.

7. Redskins win and I bump thread and bash everyone.

What did I ever initiate?

Read what I bolded. Admitting you attacked people is pretty much initiating, not to mention you have quoted so many of your own posts and responded with dozens of 's, that I have lost count. I mean really, who quotes their own posts and congratulates themselves on good postings? You should really thank your lucky stars that the refs blew Arrington's INT return dead before TB recovered (after seeing more replays, that was definitely a fumble) and that there was no good replay of the fumble return for a TD. There is such a thing as winning with class, but this thread is definitive proof that you have no idea how to do such a thing. You say others trash talked first. Ever heard of being the bigger man? I doubt it.

LOL at being a bigger man on an internet message board.When I get attacked mercilessly(sp?) for predicting that the Skins will make the playoffs, you can bet I'm not going to just sit back and be kind when the Skins succeed and prove all of the doubters wrong. Seriously, you don't think I would've been bashed terribly if the Skins had finished the season 6-10? Theres a lot of going on in here imho.

 

[Peyton Marino]

Nice call here Jdub.

 

[jwvdcw]

:whew:

Close one. Absolutely thrilled that the 'skins were able to eke out a close victory, and in the absence of much of an offense, were able to hang on to their early lead. AMAZED that, minus both Wynn and Taylor, the defense continued to rise to the challenge, especially considering they were on the field for a ridiculous amount of time, due to the O's inability to mount anything resembling a sustained drive in the entire second half.

Thrilled for Coach Gibbs. Guaranteed he's not nearly as thrilled about this win as I am. I'm sure a feeling we both share is relief that this one didn't slip away.

:whew:

Facts about the Bucs:

Chris Simms needs some seasoning.

The Bucs have a great defense.

It's always great to get a playoff victory, no matter how it comes about. The Redskins should be lauded for having acheived beyond most people's expectations as to how they were going to fare this season. Kudos for that.

While I'm pleased the Redskins are advancing to Rd 2, you have to play well in all three phases of the game, and today the offense was pretty lousy, and the special teams weren't much better. For us to compete vs the Seahawks next Saturday, they are going to have to show a marked improvement in both those areas. I'd like to be more upbeat regarding this victory, but I don't see any reason to be. I'm all for post-game victory euphoria, but the local news showing the legions of fans at Redskins Park tonight chanting "We want Seattle"...well, we're sure going to get 'em, and the team that played in the last two games vs the Eagles and Bucs is going to have to put in some overtime this week to even keep things respectable.

The Seahawks, statistically, are a team that has some decent success stopping the run. This is due, in part, to the fact that they are pretty damn good at running it themselves, and one typically begets the other. If they get an early lead, and are able to protect it, I don't care how good our defense is, we're going to have breakdowns sooner or later. Seattle has TEN TIMES the offense we faced today - a seasoned NFL veteran QB, the NFL MVP at RB, a decent TE and 3 solid veteran options at WR who all possess different attributes. At some point, we'll have to place less emphasis on our own running game, which is our strength, and barring some kind of miracle taking place during the next 7 days, that's going to be trouble.

Can the Redskins do it? I think it's possible, especially if we can score first, or answer the Seahawks first score, and keep things close enough to maintain two dimensions on offense. I think the problem lies in the fact that this will be their 3rd road game in a row, and now they are traveling to the West Coast. Not to mention we're playing a team that believes they are Super Bowl contenders, and is doubtless sore about the Week 4 close loss in Washington.

NFL.com has next week's schedule posted, and it looks like we're playing at 4:30 EST. I sure wish it was 8:00, just to buy us a few more hours of rest and recovery.

Cornelius Griffin, Marcus Washington, LeVar, Springs et al, would be wise to get a handle on Sean Taylor this week, particularly to get it firmly planted in his mind that he's going to be under a microscope after that incident on the field. For some reason, no one seems to have any close-up footage of the 'spitting incident', which I find very surprising, considering how advanced video coverage has become. Without seeing exactly what happened, I'd hope that what was called an ejectable offense was, in reality, just two hot, sweaty players jawing vehemently at one another. I'm pretty intense, both on the playing field and in the kitchen (I'm a professional chef), and I've engaged in some pretty violent arguments in both venues where spit has flown unintentionally during a heated verbal exchange. I'd like to think that was the case here. Regardless, Taylor was ejected, and that's got to be a 'red flag' in the minds of the NFL Officials (unless during the week's review they get the same impression), and they'll have their eye on him next week. His intensity and agressive play is admirable to say the least, but he'd better be focused on how to channel it. We simply cannot afford to be without him against a much stronger offensive team.

This thread has begun to veer off slightly in the direction of 'fandom'. As far as the Redskins fans, and especially the one's who attend the home games in Landover, I'll say this much: I'd lay dollars to donuts that I've been to as many or more home Redskins games than anyone here, as my family has had possession of tickets since the late 30's and I've been going to the majority of home games since the mid 70's (I started going to games with my Pops at a VERY tender age).

The atmosphere in Landover UP UNTIL THE LAST THREE GAMES OF THIS SEASON has been pretty much crap, with the possible exception of the home opener each year. There are a # of reasons for this, which, if pressed, I'll gladly go into at a later time (this post is long enough, and I'm fading), but since Daniel Snyder took over the team, I'd lay those same dollars to donuts that if you wanted to see the true Redskins faithful in full form on game day, you'd be better off taking a tour around the Washington Beltway (I-495, which runs a circle through the Maryland and Virginia suburbs surrounding DC), and visiting any # of sports bars on that circuit from kickoff to the final gun. Only in the last 3 games has that stadium even resembled, both in numbers, and passion, the glorious, and not so glorious days at RFK. It has been absolutely FANTASTIC to see some of that return over the past few weeks, and I sincerely hope that regardless of the team's future success, or lack thereof, that it continues to grow. There's absolutely NO EXCUSE for the # of Eagles fans or Cowboys fans that attend those games, and how both the so-called Redskins faithful in attendance AND the folks working for the owner, who describes himself as the teams biggest fan, allow them to behave. Maybe things get a little out of hand at The Link in Philly, but you wouldn't see that sort of crap go down in Green Bay, Kansas City or a handful of other ballparks with such loyal and passionate fan bases. The folks watching the games in the DC Metro area sports bars wouldn't stand for it, if they were in attendance in Landover, and that's a fact.

One more thing: When the Colts were in Baltimore, I was a fan of both the Colts and the Redskins. I do not like the Ravens whatsoever. I also have little time for the majority of former Colts fans who are now Ravens fans. I have my reasons, and I think they are valid, and I'd be glad to discuss them another time, but in my opinion, the idea just doesn't make sense. This deserves an explanation, and I'll provide one in due course. With some chagrin, however, I will admit that the Ravens fans in attendance at their games truly make me long for a return to the days of old at RFK. They are passionate, emotional, and for the most part, pretty educated about football, and despite the fact that I think they're somewhat misguided, I give them full credit for how well they support their team at home.

NL, your posts a welcome diversion to the mindless homerism that runs rampant in this thread. I enjoy reading nearly all of your posts. Keep it up.

 

[jwvdcw]

Notice my reply to Prime in this thread:

He posted his congrats and gave some analysis. I was very respectful of him and didn't rub it in at all.

But people like you come in and bash me for having two teams, or people like that other guy say that the best team didn't win, or people call me an idiot when I start this thread.....You're gonna get it when the Skins win- I'm no great trash talker, but you guys started it, and I'm not going to back down.

Keep in mind that I initially gave a very respectful analysis and said that I thought there was a 55% chance the Skins won. You jumped all over me for that and said stuff like "Keep in mind that I'll be bumping this if the Skins lose." What do you expect me to do now?

LOL at respectful analysis. Other than quoting Washington Post articles and stats pro-Gibbs, you talk out of both sides of your mouth like John Kerry, then when called out for your assumptions and exaggerations, start backpedaling. You only like analysis when it's a positive for YOUR team.Anyway, I hope you all have reserved your wedding proposals for Mr. Gibbs. This was 90% or more Mr. Williams work. I swear- other than Mariucci, Gibbs is one of the most predictable coaches when leading in a game. I actually think they're more dangerous when behind.

That said, the Bucs had this game ripe for the picking and failed to capitalize. I mainly blame the playcalling.

3 strikes for the Bucs today:

1. Turnovers- not so much as the ones they gave up, but when the defense/special teams CAUSE a turnover, they also need to secure the ball afterwards. Recovering the muffed punt could have been one of the major turning points in this game.

2. Not capitalizing on injuries- When Walt Harris went out after getting hit by Taylor, the Bucs should have immediately come out with a deep pass. Same goes for when Wynn came out of the game. Which leads to...

3. Not adjusting the gameplan and hitting the middle of the field. If those ESPN clowns could see the open field all day, Gruden and his staff should have seen it as well. The dropped TD pass vs Rogers (and the subsequent retry that was overthrown) were both plays where they got the drop on the secondary. You can't wait until the 4th quarter to start exploiting an area that you had a good chance of success at in the first place.

So anyway, Skins defense showed up and played well. The Washington media does need to deservedly rip Gibbs and Co. a new one though for laying an offensive egg in the 2nd half. Maybe he left the playbook from the Giants and Cowboys games back in the hotel? That ain't going to cut it in future games.

I only like analysis when its positive for my team? What are you reading? When the playoffs started, I posted my "odds" of the Redskins beating the other 5 playoff games. I said they were favored against TB or Car. But I predicted that they'd lose should they play any of the other three teams. I'm seriously stunned that I continue to get bashed for "homerism" when I'm the one who is being impartial. Take a look at Capella's posts: Does he ever admit that the Bucs could lose prior to the game? Not at all. Take a look at some posts on page one: Are there not tons of people laughing at my assumption that maybe the Skins could be a playoffs team? Hell, take a look at your own posts Malice: I don't think you've ever said the Skins are favored in any game all season!

Yet I'm the one thats a homer

 

[jwvdcw]

Dude, you cant root for 2 teams and you cant root for teams all across the US.  If you were born and raised in Baltimore, you root for the Orioles, Ravens/Colts/Redskins (not all three), Bullets (Wizards) and Capitals.

Guys like Jason Wood that root for the White Sox, Eagles and Pheonix Suns are phonies and sell outs too.

I was raised in Gaithersburg, MD. Its about 30 minutes from DC and Baltimore, and we get great coverage of both. I'm a huge fan of the Terps, Ravens, Skins, Orioles, Nationals, and Wizards. Always have been and always will be...no bandwagon jumping here.

Unless you are 15 years old, you were a Skins fan before you were a Ravens fan. Once you are a fan of an NFL team, you cannot change or add other teams for any reason. Thems are the rules.I had lived in and around Boston my whole life and am a huge Patriots fan. A year and a half ago, I moved to Pennsylvania (an hour south of Philly and an hour north of Baltimore). I have not adopted the Ravens or Eagles as my "other" favorite team. There is no such thing and stop pretending that their are.

You are a Skins fan who happend to jump on the Raven bandwagon when they won the title.

I became a Washington Nationals fan when they moved from Montreal after being an Orioles fan my whole life. And if the NFL adds another team from Maryland, I will then have 3 teams that I root for. Who are you to tell me what I can and cannot do?

 

[jwvdcw]

Ok...where is Capella?  I'm sure he isn't still stuck in traffic.  He was sooooo confident that the Bucs would win, I would like to hear his opinion on why the Bucs are no longer in the playoffs.

Enjoy the offseason~!  As I said earlier, Simms and Cadilac were not prepared for the post season, as was evident by their 3 turnovers which lead to the Buc's demise.

BTW - There were a lot more than 1,000 skins fans in attendance this afternoon.

Also - there is pure evidence that Tampa is a Bandwagon town.  Anyone remember the pre-snap where Simms and the ENTIRE offense spent 10 full seconds BEGGING the Tampa crowd to be quite prior to an offensive snap?  Pitiful....

who the #### are you?edit: no way there were more than 1k Skins fans there today. In the usual section that they hold open for opposing teams, there were two total rows of Skins fans -- much less than the available seats they usually provide.

Don't believe me that there were thousands of Skins fans at the game?Then check out what some Bucs fans are saying at the Bucs official message board.

http://bbs.buccaneers.com/showthread.php?t=111420

Some "Bucs fans" say between 5,000 and 10,000. Plus, there are some funny stories about the fairweather Bucs fans striaght from the fanbase's mouth.

I have an agreement with Capella to drop this issue, so I won't comment on that.But what the hell is this guy talking about in that link:

"Unlikely that you'll win a Superbowl. You need another coach to get you to that level."

 

[jwvdcw]

The Skins got their ### kicked yesterday , but they were lucky enough to end up on the winning side.

They wont make it much further , they have no offense .

Brunnell passed for 50 yds and Portis ran for 30 wow , this has to be a super bowl contender.

Here is the type of posts I'm talking about Malice. Now if the Redskins do go on to go deeper into the playoffs(and I"m not saying they definitely will), then do you really expect me not to bump this thread and make fun of this guy? I've been hearing crap like this all season long, and its gets tiresome.

 

[caglassc]

The Redskins have more loyal fans than the Bucs

The Redskins have better fans than the Bucs

Please tell me which of these you dispute.

I dispute these two.

The Redskins sell out when they only win one playoff game in 12 years. The Bucs' stadium is half empty when they have a bad owner and suck. How are the Bucs fans more loyal????

LOL the Skins only sell out because there are so many fans of the opposing team living in the area (or driving down from Philly/NY). This is FACT. I know because I go to 1-2 Redskins games a year. I'm not talking out of my ### like you are about the Bucs.

Don't the Redskins lead the league is $$ made off of merchandise sold? Didn't they do that while they were terrible? What, were those Eagles fans accidentally buying Redskins merchandise??To attack one of the best fan bases in the history of sports is just silly, and you're going to look ridiculous doing it.

Do they? Did they? What merchandise? They sell opponents' merchandise too. Go to Kansas City or Denver and come back and tell me how great your fans are. Tell the 30,000 Eagles fans in your stadium too.

Yes they do. The Washington Redskins merchandise outsells every other teams' merchandise and has for quite a few years. But I'm sure you'll come up with some excuse to bash them over this too.

LINK

In team sales, the Eagles were followed by Super Bowl champion New England, runner-up for the second straight year. The rest of the top ten: Pittsburgh, Oakland, Green Bay, Dallas, Denver, Chicago, the Giants and Kansas City.

No mention of your Skins in this ESPN article.

 

[jwvdcw]

The Skins got their ### kicked yesterday , but they were lucky enough to end up on the winning side.

They wont make it much further , they have no offense .

Brunnell passed for 50 yds and Portis ran for 30 wow , this has to be a super bowl contender.

I will be the one waveing next week

another example, Malice.

 

[jwvdcw]

jw...I see that you like to bump threads. How about showing up in the Anarchy thread and bumping this.

I'm not that great at FF, and I never have claimed to be. Honestly doesn't surprise me that I finished in last when I'm up against good players. I'm here mostly to talk football(not FF, just F) and joke around....FF is just a little hobby on the side.

 

[jwvdcw]

Hopefully, the Panthers and Chicago will be playing each other next weekend, even though you started a thread saying the Giants will crush the Panthers.   

Just thinking ahead, if the Panthers and the Bears play next weekend, which one do you think will advance to play the Redskins?

I think you have to think it'd be Chicago due to the HFA and the fact that they already beat Carolina without Grossman.

 

[jwvdcw]

The Redskins "should have" lost to quite a few teams lately. They just keep not getting the news.

Next week they "should" lose to the Seahawks. Man, what fun this year is for Skins fans.

 

[jwvdcw]

Great win for the Skins Yesterday. 1st quarter is where the game the won/lost. The offensive production was dreadful, but the early lead played a role in that. Gibbs likes to sit on the lead, which scares me at times, and did it again yesterday. The Redskins have a tough game coming next week, but never the less, they still have a game next week. Thank goodness Taylor can't be suspended for the spitting incident. We are missing enough players due to injury.

I find it a little rediculous that this is a Redskins thread, but there seems to be more bashing then supporting. Tampa fans were posting(rightfully so) in the past week talking trash before a wildcard playoff game. The game was played and the Bucs lost. Now these fans come back in to rip on the Skins? Bottom line is that we don't care about the Bucs anymore, lets focus on the Seahawks.

 

[JZilla]

The Skins got their ### kicked yesterday , but they were lucky enough to end up on the winning side.

They wont make it much further , they have no offense .

Brunnell passed for 50 yds and Portis ran for 30 wow , this has to be a super bowl contender.

Here is the type of posts I'm talking about Malice. Now if the Redskins do go on to go deeper into the playoffs(and I"m not saying they definitely will), then do you really expect me not to bump this thread and make fun of this guy? I've been hearing crap like this all season long, and its gets tiresome.

I don't blame you for responding to these. As I pointed out earlier, "better team lost" shtick is a free pass for ridicule.

 

[JZilla]

Hopefully, the Panthers and Chicago will be playing each other next weekend, even though you started a thread saying the Giants will crush the Panthers.   

Just thinking ahead, if the Panthers and the Bears play next weekend, which one do you think will advance to play the Redskins?

I think you have to think it'd be Chicago due to the HFA and the fact that they already beat Carolina without Grossman.

Either of these teams playing right now is in deep doo-doo against the Bears.

 

[Ghost Rider]

LOL at being a bigger man on an internet message board.

When I get attacked mercilessly(sp?) for predicting that the Skins will make the playoffs, you can bet I'm not going to just sit back and be kind when the Skins succeed and prove all of the doubters wrong. Seriously, you don't think I would've been bashed terribly if the Skins had finished the season 6-10? Theres a lot of going on in here imho.

Like the old saying goes, it is now what you say, it is how you say it. You have been way too self-congratulatory the last week in this thread. In fact, I cannot believe you can still type as I thought you would have thrown your shoulder out by now with the constant patting yourself on the back you keep doing. Would you have been bashed terribly had the Redskins lost yesterday? Probably. But, to use your pot calling the kettle black analogy, you are, in essence, doing the same thing, which is outright bashing the doubters. Hey, I have no problem with a little trash talk, but the way you went about sifting through this thread and dragging up old posts to quote them and such was as over-the-top as anything I have ever seen on an internet message board.

 

[jwvdcw]

The better team definately lost yesterday but the Skins did what they had to - to win.

Even the 2 skins fans at the party yesterday was hanging their heads saying... WOW. We sucked and won. LOL!

Oh well. The skins wont last another game with an offense like that... unless they can get a couple more lucky tips.

Congrats Redskins, won the game on the score board and that is the only place you did.

Ok, one more post from me about the Bucs:The Redskins had a much much harder schedule than the Bucs yet still only finished one game behind the Bucs, who had 2 huge refs decisions go their way in the regular season(vs Wash and vs Det).

The Redskins played two games against TB. Both were in TB. The Skins outscored the Bucs by 6.

Here the the games they played in common this year:

vs SF- TB lost by 5, Wash won by 35

vs Chi- TB lost by 3, Wash won by 2

How exactly are the Bucs the better team here?

 

[jwvdcw]

I have to admit, even as a Redskins hater, I was impressed by the Redskin defense. Everyone is talking about how horrible the offense was, well, they didn't have to do anything spectacular with the big lead that had early. They went conservative and relied on a nasty defense. This team has gotten better and better each week. I have to say I am impressed, many that was hard to say, I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

I'll take Lavar "The Aikman killer" in Dallas any day!

very classy. And if/when the Redskins lose, I'll try to model this behavior.

 

[jwvdcw]

Morning, sallies. Waking up with an horrendous hangover, still trying to figure out what happened.

I said before the game it would come down to 4-6 plays, and whoever got the most to go their way would win. I think the Skins went 6-0.

Congrats on the win. Good luck in Seattle...

Thanks man. Good game. As Capella said earlier, both of our teams were playing with house money at this point- Neither of us expected to be here when the season started. Congrats on a good overall year for your team, which clearly looks to be headed in the right direction.

 

[jwvdcw]

Malice is a dork.

Go skins

Sorry Cap and gump, it was a weird game.

Good night fellas.

Nice...we've resorted to childish namecalling.Explain to me how the Skins-

-minus Springs

-minus Harris for a number of plays

-minus Wynn

-minus Portis for half the game

-starting Rogers with a torn muscle

-minus Taylor for most of the 2nd half

weren't ripe for the picking? You don't get a postseason team on its heels any more than that. If the pass to Shepherd had been held onto, the odds would have been largely against the Skins' offense that had been lulled to sleep in the 2nd half to get something going to even get another FG. After the Brunell INT and a number of shots in the red zone, this game could have EASILY gone against you. If you fail to even recognize that, then you're a fan of the dumbest caliber. True fans are willing to recognize and critique their teams' faults even more than their successes.

Bottom line is that the Skins won and good for them for managing to hold on...but just like when they started 3-0, if you're crowing superiority and looking past the growing list of injuries and lack of killer instinct (outside of the defense), you're fooling yourself.

Really? I did just that when they started 3-0, and tons of people(probably you included) bashed me for it. I ended up on the good side of that argument, so why should I not do the same here?

 

[jwvdcw]

Dude, you cant root for 2 teams and you cant root for teams all across the US.  If you were born and raised in Baltimore, you root for the Orioles, Ravens/Colts/Redskins (not all three), Bullets (Wizards) and Capitals.

Guys like Jason Wood that root for the White Sox, Eagles and Pheonix Suns are phonies and sell outs too.

I was raised in Gaithersburg, MD. Its about 30 minutes from DC and Baltimore, and we get great coverage of both. I'm a huge fan of the Terps, Ravens, Skins, Orioles, Nationals, and Wizards. Always have been and always will be...no bandwagon jumping here.

Skins territory.So when the Ravens and the Redskins play each other in SB XLI, which one are you going to root for?

Most probably Redskins. The only way I would root for the Ravens over the Redskins would be if I really like their players/coaches more on the current teams, and that is not true now and would never be true for as long as Gibbs is coach. I think the last time they played was in 2000(the Ravens super bowl year), and I rooted for the Redskins then.

The Ravens called, you're not a fan. Glad we could clear that up.

When the Nationals play the Orioles in the 2032 World Series, which one will you root for?

Orioles easily.

 

[jwvdcw]

Nice call here Jdub.

thanks.

 

[JZilla]

Dude, you cant root for 2 teams and you cant root for teams all across the US.  If you were born and raised in Baltimore, you root for the Orioles, Ravens/Colts/Redskins (not all three), Bullets (Wizards) and Capitals.

Guys like Jason Wood that root for the White Sox, Eagles and Pheonix Suns are phonies and sell outs too.

I was raised in Gaithersburg, MD. Its about 30 minutes from DC and Baltimore, and we get great coverage of both. I'm a huge fan of the Terps, Ravens, Skins, Orioles, Nationals, and Wizards. Always have been and always will be...no bandwagon jumping here.

Skins territory.So when the Ravens and the Redskins play each other in SB XLI, which one are you going to root for?

Most probably Redskins. The only way I would root for the Ravens over the Redskins would be if I really like their players/coaches more on the current teams, and that is not true now and would never be true for as long as Gibbs is coach. I think the last time they played was in 2000(the Ravens super bowl year), and I rooted for the Redskins then.

The Ravens called, you're not a fan. Glad we could clear that up.

When the Nationals play the Orioles in the 2032 World Series, which one will you root for?

Orioles easily.

The Nationals called, you're not a fan.S, just because you like a team somewhat and generally root for them doesn't make you a fan. I generally root for the Ravens in the AFC but if they play the Panthers I won't even CONSIDER pulling for them. Therefore I have no right to call myself a Ravens fan. Nor do I want to.

Everybody has teams they like more than others.

 

[jwvdcw]

LOL at being a bigger man on an internet message board.

When I get attacked mercilessly(sp?) for predicting that the Skins will make the playoffs, you can bet I'm not going to just sit back and be kind when the Skins succeed and prove all of the doubters wrong. Seriously, you don't think I would've been bashed terribly if the Skins had finished the season 6-10? Theres a lot of  going on in here imho.

Like the old saying goes, it is now what you say, it is how you say it. You have been way too self-congratulatory the last week in this thread. In fact, I cannot believe you can still type as I thought you would have thrown your shoulder out by now with the constant patting yourself on the back you keep doing. Would you have been bashed terribly had the Redskins lost yesterday? Probably. But, to use your pot calling the kettle black analogy, you are, in essence, doing the same thing, which is outright bashing the doubters. Hey, I have no problem with a little trash talk, but the way you went about sifting through this thread and dragging up old posts to quote them and such was as over-the-top as anything I have ever seen on an internet message board.

Honestly...I'm just having fun. Those same Bucs fans could show up in a totally different thread, and I'd treat them with respect and have a decent conversation with them. I apologize if I'm offensive, but I really havn't personally attacked anyone or done anything like that, and I'm sure that you'll find tons of fans in every NFL stadium that are much worse than me.

 

[jwvdcw]

Dude, you cant root for 2 teams and you cant root for teams all across the US.  If you were born and raised in Baltimore, you root for the Orioles, Ravens/Colts/Redskins (not all three), Bullets (Wizards) and Capitals.

Guys like Jason Wood that root for the White Sox, Eagles and Pheonix Suns are phonies and sell outs too.

I was raised in Gaithersburg, MD. Its about 30 minutes from DC and Baltimore, and we get great coverage of both. I'm a huge fan of the Terps, Ravens, Skins, Orioles, Nationals, and Wizards. Always have been and always will be...no bandwagon jumping here.

Skins territory.So when the Ravens and the Redskins play each other in SB XLI, which one are you going to root for?

Most probably Redskins. The only way I would root for the Ravens over the Redskins would be if I really like their players/coaches more on the current teams, and that is not true now and would never be true for as long as Gibbs is coach. I think the last time they played was in 2000(the Ravens super bowl year), and I rooted for the Redskins then.

The Ravens called, you're not a fan. Glad we could clear that up.

When the Nationals play the Orioles in the 2032 World Series, which one will you root for?

Orioles easily.

The Nationals called, you're not a fan.S, just because you like a team somewhat and generally root for them doesn't make you a fan. I generally root for the Ravens in the AFC but if they play the Panthers I won't even CONSIDER pulling for them. Therefore I have no right to call myself a Ravens fan. Nor do I want to.

Everybody has teams they like more than others.

Please show me the "fan's rulebook" and where it says this. I root for two teams if I have two home teams. Thats what I do. Sorry if you don't like that, but thats what I do. When the Ravens won teh Super Bowl, I was happy for months. If the Skins win this year, I'll be even happier....that doesn't mean that I still don't support the Ravens. Sorry if you disagree with this, but nothing you say is going to change it.

 

[JZilla]

Dude, you cant root for 2 teams and you cant root for teams all across the US.  If you were born and raised in Baltimore, you root for the Orioles, Ravens/Colts/Redskins (not all three), Bullets (Wizards) and Capitals.

Guys like Jason Wood that root for the White Sox, Eagles and Pheonix Suns are phonies and sell outs too.

I was raised in Gaithersburg, MD. Its about 30 minutes from DC and Baltimore, and we get great coverage of both. I'm a huge fan of the Terps, Ravens, Skins, Orioles, Nationals, and Wizards. Always have been and always will be...no bandwagon jumping here.

Skins territory.So when the Ravens and the Redskins play each other in SB XLI, which one are you going to root for?

Most probably Redskins. The only way I would root for the Ravens over the Redskins would be if I really like their players/coaches more on the current teams, and that is not true now and would never be true for as long as Gibbs is coach. I think the last time they played was in 2000(the Ravens super bowl year), and I rooted for the Redskins then.

The Ravens called, you're not a fan. Glad we could clear that up.

When the Nationals play the Orioles in the 2032 World Series, which one will you root for?

Orioles easily.

The Nationals called, you're not a fan.S, just because you like a team somewhat and generally root for them doesn't make you a fan. I generally root for the Ravens in the AFC but if they play the Panthers I won't even CONSIDER pulling for them. Therefore I have no right to call myself a Ravens fan. Nor do I want to.

Everybody has teams they like more than others.

Please show me the "fan's rulebook" and where it says this. I root for two teams if I have two home teams. Thats what I do. Sorry if you don't like that, but thats what I do. When the Ravens won teh Super Bowl, I was happy for months. If the Skins win this year, I'll be even happier....that doesn't mean that I still don't support the Ravens. Sorry if you disagree with this, but nothing you say is going to change it.

I don't think you're a "fan" of a team if there's another team out there that you would want to beat that team. Just my opinion. Ray-Ray would stab you in the kidney if he heard about this.

 

[jwvdcw]

Dude, you cant root for 2 teams and you cant root for teams all across the US.  If you were born and raised in Baltimore, you root for the Orioles, Ravens/Colts/Redskins (not all three), Bullets (Wizards) and Capitals.

Guys like Jason Wood that root for the White Sox, Eagles and Pheonix Suns are phonies and sell outs too.

I was raised in Gaithersburg, MD. Its about 30 minutes from DC and Baltimore, and we get great coverage of both. I'm a huge fan of the Terps, Ravens, Skins, Orioles, Nationals, and Wizards. Always have been and always will be...no bandwagon jumping here.

Skins territory.So when the Ravens and the Redskins play each other in SB XLI, which one are you going to root for?

Most probably Redskins. The only way I would root for the Ravens over the Redskins would be if I really like their players/coaches more on the current teams, and that is not true now and would never be true for as long as Gibbs is coach. I think the last time they played was in 2000(the Ravens super bowl year), and I rooted for the Redskins then.

The Ravens called, you're not a fan. Glad we could clear that up.

When the Nationals play the Orioles in the 2032 World Series, which one will you root for?

Orioles easily.

The Nationals called, you're not a fan.S, just because you like a team somewhat and generally root for them doesn't make you a fan. I generally root for the Ravens in the AFC but if they play the Panthers I won't even CONSIDER pulling for them. Therefore I have no right to call myself a Ravens fan. Nor do I want to.

Everybody has teams they like more than others.

Please show me the "fan's rulebook" and where it says this. I root for two teams if I have two home teams. Thats what I do. Sorry if you don't like that, but thats what I do. When the Ravens won teh Super Bowl, I was happy for months. If the Skins win this year, I'll be even happier....that doesn't mean that I still don't support the Ravens. Sorry if you disagree with this, but nothing you say is going to change it.

I don't think you're a "fan" of a team if there's another team out there that you would want to beat that team. Just my opinion. Ray-Ray would stab you in the kidney if he heard about this.

Ok. I disagree. Guess we're not really getting anywhere here.I enjoy watching Matt Damon act, but if he were up for an award against Ed Norton(my favorite actor), I would root for Norton. Does this mean that I'm not a Matt Damon fan?

Apply this to any area: music, art, etc. Do you really think that you can only be a fan of one person/team in any given area?

 

[JZilla]

Dude, you cant root for 2 teams and you cant root for teams all across the US.  If you were born and raised in Baltimore, you root for the Orioles, Ravens/Colts/Redskins (not all three), Bullets (Wizards) and Capitals.

Guys like Jason Wood that root for the White Sox, Eagles and Pheonix Suns are phonies and sell outs too.

I was raised in Gaithersburg, MD. Its about 30 minutes from DC and Baltimore, and we get great coverage of both. I'm a huge fan of the Terps, Ravens, Skins, Orioles, Nationals, and Wizards. Always have been and always will be...no bandwagon jumping here.

Skins territory.So when the Ravens and the Redskins play each other in SB XLI, which one are you going to root for?

Most probably Redskins. The only way I would root for the Ravens over the Redskins would be if I really like their players/coaches more on the current teams, and that is not true now and would never be true for as long as Gibbs is coach. I think the last time they played was in 2000(the Ravens super bowl year), and I rooted for the Redskins then.

The Ravens called, you're not a fan. Glad we could clear that up.

When the Nationals play the Orioles in the 2032 World Series, which one will you root for?

Orioles easily.

The Nationals called, you're not a fan.S, just because you like a team somewhat and generally root for them doesn't make you a fan. I generally root for the Ravens in the AFC but if they play the Panthers I won't even CONSIDER pulling for them. Therefore I have no right to call myself a Ravens fan. Nor do I want to.

Everybody has teams they like more than others.

Please show me the "fan's rulebook" and where it says this. I root for two teams if I have two home teams. Thats what I do. Sorry if you don't like that, but thats what I do. When the Ravens won teh Super Bowl, I was happy for months. If the Skins win this year, I'll be even happier....that doesn't mean that I still don't support the Ravens. Sorry if you disagree with this, but nothing you say is going to change it.

I don't think you're a "fan" of a team if there's another team out there that you would want to beat that team. Just my opinion. Ray-Ray would stab you in the kidney if he heard about this.

Ok. I disagree. Guess we're not really getting anywhere here.I enjoy watching Matt Damon act, but if he were up for an award against Ed Norton(my favorite actor), I would root for Norton. Does this mean that I'm not a Matt Damon fan?

Apply this to any area: music, art, etc. Do you really think that you can only be a fan of one person/team in any given area?

No, only sports. I don't think you're technically anymore of a Ravens fan than I am. Pointless conversation though. This is America, you can call yourself whatever you want to, and I can disagree. Hopefully you and I can both talk a little Ravens smack next year, either way.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

LOL at being a bigger man on an internet message board.

When I get attacked mercilessly(sp?) for predicting that the Skins will make the playoffs, you can bet I'm not going to just sit back and be kind when the Skins succeed and prove all of the doubters wrong. Seriously, you don't think I would've been bashed terribly if the Skins had finished the season 6-10? Theres a lot of  going on in here imho.

Like the old saying goes, it is now what you say, it is how you say it. You have been way too self-congratulatory the last week in this thread. In fact, I cannot believe you can still type as I thought you would have thrown your shoulder out by now with the constant patting yourself on the back you keep doing. Would you have been bashed terribly had the Redskins lost yesterday? Probably. But, to use your pot calling the kettle black analogy, you are, in essence, doing the same thing, which is outright bashing the doubters. Hey, I have no problem with a little trash talk, but the way you went about sifting through this thread and dragging up old posts to quote them and such was as over-the-top as anything I have ever seen on an internet message board.

Honestly...I'm just having fun. Those same Bucs fans could show up in a totally different thread, and I'd treat them with respect and have a decent conversation with them. I apologize if I'm offensive, but I really havn't personally attacked anyone or done anything like that, and I'm sure that you'll find tons of fans in every NFL stadium that are much worse than me.

No apologies necessary - it's all part of the fun. Congrats on the skins win.

Good luck the rest of the way.

 

[jwvdcw]

Dude, you cant root for 2 teams and you cant root for teams all across the US.  If you were born and raised in Baltimore, you root for the Orioles, Ravens/Colts/Redskins (not all three), Bullets (Wizards) and Capitals.Guys like Jason Wood that root for the White Sox, Eagles and Pheonix Suns are phonies and sell outs too.

I was raised in Gaithersburg, MD. Its about 30 minutes from DC and Baltimore, and we get great coverage of both. I'm a huge fan of the Terps, Ravens, Skins, Orioles, Nationals, and Wizards. Always have been and always will be...no bandwagon jumping here.

Skins territory.

So when the Ravens and the Redskins play each other in SB XLI, which one are you going to root for?

Most probably Redskins. The only way I would root for the Ravens over the Redskins would be if I really like their players/coaches more on the current teams, and that is not true now and would never be true for as long as Gibbs is coach. I think the last time they played was in 2000(the Ravens super bowl year), and I rooted for the Redskins then.

The Ravens called, you're not a fan.

Glad we could clear that up.

When the Nationals play the Orioles in the 2032 World Series, which one will you root for?

Orioles easily.

The Nationals called, you're not a fan.

S, just because you like a team somewhat and generally root for them doesn't make you a fan. I generally root for the Ravens in the AFC but if they play the Panthers I won't even CONSIDER pulling for them. Therefore I have no right to call myself a Ravens fan. Nor do I want to.

Everybody has teams they like more than others.

Please show me the "fan's rulebook" and where it says this. I root for two teams if I have two home teams. Thats what I do. Sorry if you don't like that, but thats what I do. When the Ravens won teh Super Bowl, I was happy for months. If the Skins win this year, I'll be even happier....that doesn't mean that I still don't support the Ravens. Sorry if you disagree with this, but nothing you say is going to change it.

I don't think you're a "fan" of a team if there's another team out there that you would want to beat that team. Just my opinion. Ray-Ray would stab you in the kidney if he heard about this.

Ok. I disagree. Guess we're not really getting anywhere here.

I enjoy watching Matt Damon act, but if he were up for an award against Ed Norton(my favorite actor), I would root for Norton. Does this mean that I'm not a Matt Damon fan?

Apply this to any area: music, art, etc. Do you really think that you can only be a fan of one person/team in any given area?

No, only sports. I don't think you're technically anymore of a Ravens fan than I am. Pointless conversation though. This is America, you can call yourself whatever you want to, and I can disagree. Hopefully you and I can both talk a little Ravens smack next year, either way.

Yeah, lets just agree to disagree here. No real point in arguing. I do question what is so different about sports compared to any of the other examples I brought up. Why is that the only time you can't root for two teams/people?

 

[jwvdcw]

LOL at being a bigger man on an internet message board.

When I get attacked mercilessly(sp?) for predicting that the Skins will make the playoffs, you can bet I'm not going to just sit back and be kind when the Skins succeed and prove all of the doubters wrong. Seriously, you don't think I would've been bashed terribly if the Skins had finished the season 6-10? Theres a lot of  going on in here imho.

Like the old saying goes, it is now what you say, it is how you say it. You have been way too self-congratulatory the last week in this thread. In fact, I cannot believe you can still type as I thought you would have thrown your shoulder out by now with the constant patting yourself on the back you keep doing. Would you have been bashed terribly had the Redskins lost yesterday? Probably. But, to use your pot calling the kettle black analogy, you are, in essence, doing the same thing, which is outright bashing the doubters. Hey, I have no problem with a little trash talk, but the way you went about sifting through this thread and dragging up old posts to quote them and such was as over-the-top as anything I have ever seen on an internet message board.

Honestly...I'm just having fun. Those same Bucs fans could show up in a totally different thread, and I'd treat them with respect and have a decent conversation with them. I apologize if I'm offensive, but I really havn't personally attacked anyone or done anything like that, and I'm sure that you'll find tons of fans in every NFL stadium that are much worse than me.

No apologies necessary - it's all part of the fun. Congrats on the skins win.

Good luck the rest of the way.

 

[JZilla]

Yeah, lets just agree to disagree here. No real point in arguing. I do question what is so different about sports compared to any of the other examples I brought up. Why is that the only time you can't root for two teams/people?

You can root, just in sports, you're not a FAN if you would root against that team in any circumstance, IMO.Music and actors are completely different. Those people don't compete against each other. I don't consider the Oscars or the Grammies real competition like sports. The point of their jobs is to sell movies, albums, concert tickets, not to get BS awards. Doesn't compare to sports in anyway, where their job is to defeat everyone else on the field of play.

Damn this busted quote function

 

[jwvdcw]

Yeah, lets just agree to disagree here. No real point in arguing. I do question what is so different about sports compared to any of the other examples I brought up. Why is that the only time you can't root for two teams/people?

You can root, just in sports, you're not a FAN if you would root against that team in any circumstance, IMO.Music and actors are completely different. Those people don't compete against each other. I don't consider the Oscars or the Grammies real competition like sports. The point of their jobs is to sell movies, albums, concert tickets, not to get BS awards. Doesn't compare to sports in anyway, where their job is to defeat everyone else on the field of play.

Damn this busted quote function

If the Giants and Colts played in the Super Bowl, would you say that Archie Manning cannot be a fan of both of his sons?

 

[fatness]

Bottom line is that the Skins won and good for them for managing to hold on...but just like when they started 3-0, if you're crowing superiority and looking past the growing list of injuries and lack of killer instinct (outside of the defense), you're fooling yourself.

I don't think they're a superior team. I think (and so do most Skins fans) that they are unexpectedly good, moderately-talented, well-coached, peaking at the right time, beating good teams. And that none of us yet knows how really good they are. If this unexpected trip into the playoffs turns into 7-9 next year we'll know this was just an average team that had a hot streak. If next year follows this year's pattern we'll know we were watching a good team being born. My guess is that it's the latter, but only time will tell. The reason Skins fans are so excited about this team is that we're sick of big-money teams with underachieving players, bad coaching, "star players", and upheaval. This is a team made of many players (and coaches) who were castoffs from other teams, and who, through hard work, team play, good hard coaching and selective player moves have become a group that works extremely hard, works together, and honestly believes each time they take the field that they can win. Measure the level of their individual talent and the Redskins are average. Measure the level of their collective ability, and they're something more than that ---- a hardworking team that deserves to be where they are because of their efforts. This is something we havent' seen in awhile in DC, and it's pure pleasure watching it every week.

 

[jwvdcw]

Bottom line is that the Skins won and good for them for managing to hold on...but just like when they started 3-0, if you're crowing superiority and looking past the growing list of injuries and lack of killer instinct (outside of the defense), you're fooling yourself.

I don't think they're a superior team. I think (and so do most Skins fans) that they are unexpectedly good, moderately-talented, well-coached, peaking at the right time, beating good teams. And that none of us yet knows how really good they are. If this unexpected trip into the playoffs turns into 7-9 next year we'll know this was just an average team that had a hot streak. If next year follows this year's pattern we'll know we were watching a good team being born. My guess is that it's the latter, but only time will tell. The reason Skins fans are so excited about this team is that we're sick of big-money teams with underachieving players, bad coaching, "star players", and upheaval. This is a team made of many players (and coaches) who were castoffs from other teams, and who, through hard work, team play, good hard coaching and selective player moves have become a group that works extremely hard, works together, and honestly believes each time they take the field that they can win. Measure the level of their individual talent and the Redskins are average. Measure the level of their collective ability, and they're something more than that ---- a hardworking team that deserves to be where they are because of their efforts. This is something we havent' seen in awhile in DC, and it's pure pleasure watching it every week.

I think that my analysis from 3 months ago was pretty spot on: This is a wildcard playoff team in an open NFC that could get hot and make a run to the super bowl. Likely? No. Possible? Definitely.

 

[jwvdcw]

Opening line:Seattle -8.5o/u: 41.5Wow....8.5 is much higher than I anticipated. However, the Bucs line opened at 2.5 and dropped down to 1 before kickoff, so maybe we can expect to see similar results here.

 

[Pat Patriot]

Yeah, lets just agree to disagree here. No real point in arguing. I do question what is so different about sports compared to any of the other examples I brought up. Why is that the only time you can't root for two teams/people?

You can root, just in sports, you're not a FAN if you would root against that team in any circumstance, IMO.Music and actors are completely different. Those people don't compete against each other. I don't consider the Oscars or the Grammies real competition like sports. The point of their jobs is to sell movies, albums, concert tickets, not to get BS awards. Doesn't compare to sports in anyway, where their job is to defeat everyone else on the field of play.

Damn this busted quote function

If the Giants and Colts played in the Super Bowl, would you say that Archie Manning cannot be a fan of both of his sons?

In this scenario, Archie would not be a "fan" of either team because he would probably state that he doesnt care who wins. He would just want both of his sons to play well.Probably a moot point because based on the way he is playing today, Eli Manning will only get into the SB the same way you or I would, with a ticket. Boy he sucks.

 

[Pat Patriot]

JZilla, what is the genesis of your being a Panthers fan?

 

[redman]

The better team definately lost yesterday but the Skins did what they had to - to win.

Even the 2 skins fans at the party yesterday was hanging their heads saying... WOW. We sucked and won. LOL!

Oh well. The skins wont last another game with an offense like that... unless they can get a couple more lucky tips.

Congrats Redskins, won the game on the score board and that is the only place you did.

I see. So you're crediting us with the win in week 10 then?

 

[JZilla]

Yeah, lets just agree to disagree here. No real point in arguing. I do question what is so different about sports compared to any of the other examples I brought up. Why is that the only time you can't root for two teams/people?

You can root, just in sports, you're not a FAN if you would root against that team in any circumstance, IMO.Music and actors are completely different. Those people don't compete against each other. I don't consider the Oscars or the Grammies real competition like sports. The point of their jobs is to sell movies, albums, concert tickets, not to get BS awards. Doesn't compare to sports in anyway, where their job is to defeat everyone else on the field of play.

Damn this busted quote function

If the Giants and Colts played in the Super Bowl, would you say that Archie Manning cannot be a fan of both of his sons?

Archie is a Saints fan.

 

[jwvdcw]

Yeah, lets just agree to disagree here. No real point in arguing. I do question what is so different about sports compared to any of the other examples I brought up. Why is that the only time you can't root for two teams/people?

You can root, just in sports, you're not a FAN if you would root against that team in any circumstance, IMO.Music and actors are completely different. Those people don't compete against each other. I don't consider the Oscars or the Grammies real competition like sports. The point of their jobs is to sell movies, albums, concert tickets, not to get BS awards. Doesn't compare to sports in anyway, where their job is to defeat everyone else on the field of play.

Damn this busted quote function

If the Giants and Colts played in the Super Bowl, would you say that Archie Manning cannot be a fan of both of his sons?

In this scenario, Archie would not be a "fan" of either team because he would probably state that he doesnt care who wins. He would just want both of his sons to play well.Probably a moot point because based on the way he is playing today, Eli Manning will only get into the SB the same way you or I would, with a ticket. Boy he sucks.

Well, what if a reporter asked him and he responded by saying, "Well Peyton has been in the league longer and taken so much criticism, while Eli still has tons of years in this league, so I think I'm slightly pulling for Peyton."Then would you claim that Archie Manning is not a fan of his own son, Eli?

 

[jwvdcw]

Yeah, lets just agree to disagree here. No real point in arguing. I do question what is so different about sports compared to any of the other examples I brought up. Why is that the only time you can't root for two teams/people?

You can root, just in sports, you're not a FAN if you would root against that team in any circumstance, IMO.Music and actors are completely different. Those people don't compete against each other. I don't consider the Oscars or the Grammies real competition like sports. The point of their jobs is to sell movies, albums, concert tickets, not to get BS awards. Doesn't compare to sports in anyway, where their job is to defeat everyone else on the field of play.

Damn this busted quote function

If the Giants and Colts played in the Super Bowl, would you say that Archie Manning cannot be a fan of both of his sons?

Archie is a Saints fan.

So, Archie Manning is not a fan of the teams that his sons play on? LOL...ok...I'm just going to drop this whole issue then if you think that.

 

[CA_7]

Last year, I said multiple times that the Skins D was far and away the best in the league. The only reason that they weren't at the top of the league statistically was because the offense last year was incredibly mistake-prone and they left the D in terrible shape all the time. However, from watching them, I could tell that they (Redskins) were amazing.

The Redskins will be in every game this year because they have a great(not good, but great) defense.Their offense and special teams will produce a few big plays here and there which will be sufficient. Otherwise, they will minimize their mistakes on offense.

I predict that the Skins finish 10-6 and enter the playoffs as a wild card(just like the Ravens did). Then if they get hot at the right time, they could make a similar run.

It was a nice call early in the season but you seem to imply you were on the bandwagoon since the end of 05 yet you had them as the 24th best team a few weeks before this post started... You even had them finishing behind the Jets, Detroit and the Niners!

Tier #6

20. NY Jets- will cut them a little slack, but man, they looked bad.

21. Detroit- a win is a win, I guess

22. SF- see Miami

23. Minnesota- see NY Jets

24. Washington- see Detroit

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