HALL OF FAME INDUCTION thread (1 Viewer)

[Raider Nation]

He's trying way too hard. Forced and rehearsed. And he almost made himself cry, but not quite.

Sharpe wins the Best 2011 HOF Speech.

 

[LHUCKS]

where is this going

 

[Zaxxon]

Wanna punch Deion in the face.

He expects it won't hurt.

 

[cobalt_27]

He's trying way too hard. Forced and rehearsed. And he almost made himself cry, but not quite.Sharpe wins the Best 2011 HOF Speech.

Best CB evah. But, he's still a phoney ###-clown.

 

[Zaxxon]

where is this going

He's about to pass around the collection plate is my guess.

 

[Raider Nation]

My Mama...

My Mama...

My Mama...

My Mama...

My Mama...

My Mama...

My Mama...

My Mama...

 

[LHUCKS]

Great tackle joke!!

 

[Zaxxon]

Deion Sanders wasn't much help in run defense at times but he paid his mom's bills. Got it.

 

[Raider Nation]

I haven't been this disappointed since Caddyshack II.

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Deion's speech >>>> Sharpe's speech. None of them really stood out this year though.

 

[LHUCKS]

love the dew rag bit...he lost me for a good 10 minutes there...but he closed it down pretty good.

 

[Raider Nation]

Seriously .. WHOSE BUST IS THAT???

 

[cobalt_27]

Deion's speech >>>> Sharpe's speech. None of them really stood out this year though.

Yup. Best moment of the night was Ed/Steve Sabol, imo.Sharpe, Marshall, and Deion were trying too hard. Deion finished well, but this was otherwise a difficult year.

 

[RJS113]

Wow, terrible speech IMO. His mom didn't look too happy during the speech, and if I'm right, I certainly don't blame her.

 

[VaTerp]

I loved Deion's speech. Looks like a lot of people here didnt get it/couldn't relate.

 

[Raider Nation]

Seriously .. WHOSE BUST IS THAT???

My camera blows, but at least you'll get the idea.LOLZ

 

[comfortably numb]

Seriously .. WHOSE BUST IS THAT???

My camera blows, but at least you'll get the idea.LOLZ

some pop up porn with that link BTW

 

[cobalt_27]

Deion totally lost it in post interview on NFLN. Damn.

 

[cobalt_27]

Feel like I'm witnessing group therapy here.

 

[Raider Nation]

Seriously .. WHOSE BUST IS THAT???

My camera blows, but at least you'll get the idea.LOLZ

some pop up porn with that link BTW

Grrrr... I wanted to use Imageshack but the site was slow. I'll try again.EDIT: Okay, we should be good now. Apologies.

 

[hammerva]

Michael Irvin is crying more than the Hall of Famers on this post game special

 

[Raider Nation]

Michael Irvin is crying more than the Hall of Famers on this post game special

Shannon is crying again too. More granny stories.

 

[Mark Wimer]

Michael Irvin is crying more than the Hall of Famers on this post game special

Shannon is crying again too. More granny stories.

I was kinda upset that I needed to miss the HOF induction stuff this year as the post-lockout free agency frenzy has me going 10,000 miles a minute keeping my projections/rankings/team reports and etc. up to date.Now I don't feel too bad. Don't need the waterworks or granny stories... Stick to HOF dudes!

 

[bonesman]

Pretty moving speech so far.

Was just thinking the opposite. I'm pretty disappointed.

Same here. He said all the same things in other interviews leading up to this and they sounded more sincere and intense then. The standing ovation for Sterling was more emotional (I am a Packer fan though) than any other part of his speech, IMO, but I heard it before and it kind of lost it's impact.

 

[Carver]

Deion's bust looks like Don Knots. lololol So much for quality control. OUFFFF

 

[RobertBobson]

Pretty moving speech so far.

Was just thinking the opposite. I'm pretty disappointed.

Same here. He said all the same things in other interviews leading up to this and they sounded more sincere and intense then. The standing ovation for Sterling was more emotional (I am a Packer fan though) than any other part of his speech, IMO, but I heard it before and it kind of lost it's impact.

I thought the sterling standing O was the most amazing part of the speech. Because everyone knew that Sterling isn't going to get into the hall of fame. He knows it, Shannon knows it, the crowd knows it. But everyone ALSO knew that Sterling would have, had he stayed healthy. That he could have challenged Jerry rice for the GOAT if he'd stayed healthy ( Imagine what he'd have produced during Favre's prime?). The crowd was acknowledging what could have been, what should have been, and sharpe's greatness. It was a really special moment, I thought.

 

[Carver]

The Ed Sabol film was ####### Epic.

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[Lash]

Sterling's Stats By Year...he's a longshot at best Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD 1988 23 GNB WR 84 16 16 55 791 14.4 1 1989 24 GNB WR 84 16 16 90 1423 15.8 12 1990 25 GNB WR 84 16 16 67 1105 16.5 6 1991 26 GNB WR 84 16 16 69 961 13.9 4 1992 27 GNB WR 84 16 16 108 1461 13.5 13 1993 28 GNB WR 84 16 16 112 1274 11.4 11 1994 29 GNB WR 84 16 16 94 1119 11.9 18

yeah 1990 and 1991 killed his chance ... put two more 90/1200/11's in those years and he'd have gotten compared to Gale Sayers as a HOF who just got shortened by injury

 

[RobertBobson]

Sterling's Stats By Year...he's a longshot at best Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD 1988 23 GNB WR 84 16 16 55 791 14.4 1 1989 24 GNB WR 84 16 16 90 1423 15.8 12 1990 25 GNB WR 84 16 16 67 1105 16.5 6 1991 26 GNB WR 84 16 16 69 961 13.9 4 1992 27 GNB WR 84 16 16 108 1461 13.5 13 1993 28 GNB WR 84 16 16 112 1274 11.4 11 1994 29 GNB WR 84 16 16 94 1119 11.9 18

yeah 1990 and 1991 killed his chance ... put two more 90/1200/11's in those years and he'd have gotten compared to Gale Sayers as a HOF who just got shortened by injury

But the NFL Hall of fame isn't the baseball hall of fame. It isn't as dependent on stats as baseball In baseball there is almost a formula. If you hit X hits, Y homeruns, Z wins, you get in. Or at least that was the case till the steroid era.With football, so many positions there are no great stats to judge people on. Like Left tackle. If a corner back is great, they won't throw to his side of the field, so it's natural for him not to wrack up INT's, because he doesn't get the opportunity. And while sharpe is at a position that is easier to judge on stats than many, I think there is something to be said for ... Look.. this was the best guy in the league not named jerry rice. He dominated his position when he was healthy. He was about to enter his prime when he got hurt. He was a 5 time all pro. Everyone knows how great he was, what he did accomplish and what he would have. I think the hall of fame can acknowledge that by putting him in. I mean, I think Sharpe fits my mental idea of greatness better than Art Monk or Steve Largent. I think the biggest problem Sharpe faces is how few of players get into the hall, how long of a back long there is, at his position and in general. It seems unlikely that he's going to get in, and I think that's a shame, because I think he's was a truly special WR. And I'm saying this as a bears fan.

 

[CalBear]

I mean, I think Sharpe fits my mental idea of greatness better than Art Monk or Steve Largent.

Sterling Sharpe clearly deserves it more than Monk does, but Largent is a legitimate HOF WR. He finished top-5 in receiving yards 4 times (#1 twice) and top-5 in receiving TDs 6 times. And you can't let undeserving people in just based on the fact that undeserving people got in already.

 

[cobalt_27]

I think the biggest problem Sharpe faces is how few of players get into the hall, how long of a back long there is, at his position and in general. It seems unlikely that he's going to get in, and I think that's a shame, because I think he's was a truly special WR. And I'm saying this as a bears fan.

I think there has to be a comfortable resolution with the fact that there will be truly special players who still do not deserve enshrinement. It is no knock against Sterling at all. He was one of my favorite WRs of that era. He was a "FREIGHT TRAIN WITH STICK'EM!" But, the HOF by its nature has to be discretionary. Having 4 great seasons paired with another 2 respectable ones? And that's it? He was an all pro 3 times (not 5). That speaks to how terrific he was in that short time frame. But, that's just not enough.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

I think the biggest problem Sharpe faces is how few of players get into the hall, how long of a back long there is, at his position and in general. It seems unlikely that he's going to get in, and I think that's a shame, because I think he's was a truly special WR. And I'm saying this as a bears fan.

I think there has to be a comfortable resolution with the fact that there will be truly special players who still do not deserve enshrinement. It is no knock against Sterling at all. He was one of my favorite WRs of that era. He was a "FREIGHT TRAIN WITH STICK'EM!" But, the HOF by its nature has to be discretionary. Having 4 great seasons paired with another 2 respectable ones? And that's it? He was an all pro 3 times (not 5). That speaks to how terrific he was in that short time frame. But, that's just not enough.

Yea, we can't put him in just because we think he would have been great.Hell, Tim Brown was great for years and he can't even get in.

 

[FUBAR]

Seriously .. WHOSE BUST IS THAT???

My camera blows, but at least you'll get the idea.LOLZ

 

[cobalt_27]

I think the biggest problem Sharpe faces is how few of players get into the hall, how long of a back long there is, at his position and in general. It seems unlikely that he's going to get in, and I think that's a shame, because I think he's was a truly special WR. And I'm saying this as a bears fan.

I think there has to be a comfortable resolution with the fact that there will be truly special players who still do not deserve enshrinement. It is no knock against Sterling at all. He was one of my favorite WRs of that era. He was a "FREIGHT TRAIN WITH STICK'EM!" But, the HOF by its nature has to be discretionary. Having 4 great seasons paired with another 2 respectable ones? And that's it? He was an all pro 3 times (not 5). That speaks to how terrific he was in that short time frame. But, that's just not enough.

Yea, we can't put him in just because we think he would have been great.Hell, Tim Brown was great for years and he can't even get in.

One of the more recent NFLN specials offered up a really good heuristic for the HOF: "Can the history of the NFL be written without this player." In Sterling Sharpe's case, it wouldn't be a glaring omission.

 

[NutterButter]

Sterling's Stats By Year...he's a longshot at best Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD 1988 23 GNB WR 84 16 16 55 791 14.4 1 1989 24 GNB WR 84 16 16 90 1423 15.8 12 1990 25 GNB WR 84 16 16 67 1105 16.5 6 1991 26 GNB WR 84 16 16 69 961 13.9 4 1992 27 GNB WR 84 16 16 108 1461 13.5 13 1993 28 GNB WR 84 16 16 112 1274 11.4 11 1994 29 GNB WR 84 16 16 94 1119 11.9 18

yeah 1990 and 1991 killed his chance ... put two more 90/1200/11's in those years and he'd have gotten compared to Gale Sayers as a HOF who just got shortened by injury

So you're saying an 1100 yard season hurt his chances?

 

[Dismattle]

Sterling's Stats By Year...he's a longshot at best Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Rec Yds Y/R TD 1988 23 GNB WR 84 16 16 55 791 14.4 1 1989 24 GNB WR 84 16 16 90 1423 15.8 12 1990 25 GNB WR 84 16 16 67 1105 16.5 6 1991 26 GNB WR 84 16 16 69 961 13.9 4 1992 27 GNB WR 84 16 16 108 1461 13.5 13 1993 28 GNB WR 84 16 16 112 1274 11.4 11 1994 29 GNB WR 84 16 16 94 1119 11.9 18

yeah 1990 and 1991 killed his chance ... put two more 90/1200/11's in those years and he'd have gotten compared to Gale Sayers as a HOF who just got shortened by injury

So you're saying an 1100 yard season hurt his chances?

If hes not blaming the Coach? It could be: The Majic Man Majkowski's success was cut short when, in the 10th game of the Packers' 1990 season, Majkowski was injured when he was upended and tackled on his shoulder by Freddie Joe Nunn. Nunn drew a personal foul on the play. At first thought to be a bruise, Majkowski's injury turned out to be more serious, a torn rotator cuff. The Packers finished the season using backups Anthony Dilweg and Blair Kiel. During the course of the 1991 season, Majkowski was benched and replaced by Mike Tomczak as starter, but resumed starting duties at the beginning of the 1992 seasonProbably dont need to name Coach & QB in 92!

 

[GroveDiesel]

I went to the Gameday Roundtable today and expected Deion Sanders and Shannon Sharpe to be very entertaining and funny. They were, but Chris Hanburger totally stole the spotlight. The guy was hilarious. All the other inductees kept saying how much he was cracking them up all week.

Schefter did an awesome job as the master of ceremonies for the event.

 

[Sidewinder16]

One of the more recent NFLN specials offered up a really good heuristic for the HOF: "Can the history of the NFL be written without this player." In Sterling Sharpe's case, it wouldn't be a glaring omission.

Few seem to pay attention or take heed of this, for some unknown reason. The HOFs own mission statement is:

The Mission of the Pro Football Hall of Fame is:

To honor, preserve, educate and promote. . .

To honor individuals who have made outstanding contributions to professional football

To preserve professional football’s historic documents and artifacts

To educate the public regarding the origin, development and growth of professional football as an important part of American culture

To promote the positive values of the sport

To be fair, I'm not convinced all the members of the voting panel keep this in mind when voting, but it still doesn't change what the Hall is trying to do. It's not strictly trying to assemble a list of the greatest stat generators. "Outstanding contributions to professional football" can't always be discerned from a box score.