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[Kevin Ashcraft]

http://www.kansascity.com/666/story/937972.html

Chiefs GM Carl Peterson resigns

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star

Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson resigned today effective at the end of the season.

“On behalf of my family and the entire Kansas City Chiefs organization, I want to thank Carl for his two decades of service to the Chiefs,” Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt said. “Both Carl and I agreed that immediately initiating the search for the next Chiefs general manager would be the best thing for the future of the organization, and he will be resigning following the 2008 season.’’

Hunt said the search for a new General Manager will begin immediately. Vice President Denny Thum will serve as the Chiefs interim president and general manager.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Fiddles]

whats the cliff notes version of why this is a good thing?

dont follow the chiefs much

 

[FFdork]

So does this mean Herm is gone too?

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2008/12/15/cl..._carl_peterson/

Clark Hunt Announces the Resignation of Carl Peterson

Dec 15, 2008, 4:17:51 PM

Kansas City Chiefs Chairman Clark Hunt today announced that Carl Peterson will step down as President, General Manager and Chief Executive Officer at the end of the 2008 season.

“On behalf of my family and the entire Kansas City Chiefs organization, I want to thank Carl for his two decades of service to the Chiefs,” Hunt said. “Both Carl and I agreed that immediately initiating the search for the next Chiefs General Manager would be the best thing for the future of the organization, and he will be resigning following the 2008 season.”

Peterson joined the Chiefs in 1989, and guided the club through one of the most successful eras in its history. During his 20 years at the helm, the Chiefs amassed a 176-141-1 record, won the AFC West four times and reached the AFC Championship Game in 1993.

“I am proud of my association with the Kansas City Chiefs and our many accomplishments over the last 20 years,” Peterson said. “I thank the Hunt family for the opportunity to lead the Chiefs organization and sincerely appreciate all the coaches, players, administrators and Chiefs employees with whom I’ve had the pleasure of working in my time here. Most importantly, I want to thank Chiefs fans around the country for their passionate support through the years. Chiefs fans are the finest in all of professional football.”

Hunt said the search for a new General Manager will begin immediately. Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer Denny Thum will serve as the Chiefs interim President and General Manager.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

I would say it is 50-50 on Herm........

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

whats the cliff notes version of why this is a good thing?dont follow the chiefs much

He was fine with Marty from 89-98.....but it became apparent soon after Schottenheimer left that the success was all Marty.Chiefs from 89-98 - 10 playoff games 3 playoff wins - 101-58-1 in regular season99-08 2 playoff games zero playoff wins - 75-83 with 2 games left in '08

 

[massraider]

Dang.

Very good news for Chiefs fans.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Wanna hear how great this is for KC fans?

810whb.com

People's comments.....

"Christmas came early!"

"The King is dead!"

"This is like a playoff win!"

"This makes my year!"

The venom for this guys since 98 or so is so strong guys -- most of you really can't comprehend it.

 

[pacman_fl]

Kevin - wasn't this expected? Per the Chief fans I stay in touch with from my KC days, this was to be Peterson's last year either way. Or was that just wishful thinking?

 

[MDSkinner]

Wanna hear how great this is for KC fans?810whb.comPeople's comments....."Christmas came early!""The King is dead!""This is like a playoff win!""This makes my year!"The venom for this guys since 98 or so is so strong guys -- most of you really can't comprehend it.

Not a Chiefs fan but I live in KC and everything here and so much more. People hate him for his attitude, for the way he negotiates with players, for the way he seems to care more about making money than winning titles...the list goes on and on. I am guessing if two years ago you told Chiefs fans that if they were given a 2-14 season but would lose King Carl, would then take it? About 95% would have said absolutely.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Kevin - wasn't this expected? Per the Chief fans I stay in touch with from my KC days, this was to be Peterson's last year either way. Or was that just wishful thinking?

His contract ended next season -- but the anger is so deep and the losses are so tough -- this will always be a day of celebration now!

 

[iSnitch]

Wow, I don't follow the Chiefs but I didn't see this news coming. Congratulations guys.

 

[Tom Servo]

Kevin - wasn't this expected? Per the Chief fans I stay in touch with from my KC days, this was to be Peterson's last year either way. Or was that just wishful thinking?

His contract ended next season -- but the anger is so deep and the losses are so tough -- this will always be a day of celebration now!

Congratulations...I think.

 

[noneother]

i remember a few years ago, he really stuck it to a few guys... as a guy in detroit and a BOWE and CALVIN owner.. I am looking forward to how these franchises address their vacancies in the coming months....

 

[Keith Lewis]

Great news for Chiefs fans!

Ding Dong the Witch is dead

 

[Shag]

Best Chiefs news in years!!

 

[bulldog4life]

As a Chiefs fan for most of my life, I can say this is great news. Peterson was thought to be a genius during the Marty years, but as another poster pointed out, things went downhill in a hurry after Marty was shown the door. Let's hope the ownership hires a quality guy and we do some more house cleaning. If I was Herm, I would be checking with my realtor.

 

[Spike]

Wow, I don't follow the Chiefs but I didn't see this news coming. Congratulations guys.

My thought as well.It'll be good that they will (hopefully) go forwards finally.

 

[Abstract]

Best Chiefs news in years!!

WOO-HOO!!

 

[Sweetness_34]

So what happened to the rookie DT they drafted instead of Matt Ryan? Injured? Their run and pass D is horrible so wondering if he is not really contributing or injured?

 

[Stinger Ray]

Now they just need to undo the effects of the Hermanator!

 

[Ariakis]

So what happened to the rookie DT they drafted instead of Matt Ryan? Injured? Their run and pass D is horrible so wondering if he is not really contributing or injured?

Falcons drafted before the Chiefs. Even King Carl isn't that dumb. The Chiefs were scouting Ryan and were GOING to take him if he fell that far.That said, as much as I (and everyone else in KC) hates the guy I think they are actually on the right track this year. They are losing but they are competitive and starting to get the right pieces in place. Bring in a veteran if you aren't sure about Thigpen and you'll get Croyle back to this time be a backup. Use the picks on a stud OL or pass rusher. The DB's are solid enough. Upgrade the LB's and bring in a speed threat at WR and consider a free agent RB.

 

[Nugget]

Bill Cowher will be the next GM of the KC Chiefs. Lock.

 

[moleculo]

I hear Matt Millen is available.

 

[bjabrad]

Bill Cowher will be the next GM of the KC Chiefs. Lock.

That would be the best case scenario for all Chiefs fans and I hope you're right.

 

[sho nuff]

So what happened to the rookie DT they drafted instead of Matt Ryan? Injured? Their run and pass D is horrible so wondering if he is not really contributing or injured?

Umm...the Falcons had the #3 pick...the Chiefs had the #5 pick.

 

[Reaper]

Congrats Kevin and Chiefs fans...

Kevin, I know we've debated in the past on Herm... Wonder if many Chief's fans still believe, if not, I hope for the best and your next GM / HC takes that team to a better places....

It was never personal - I just thought all along that Herm was Peterson's puppet and while a great man, is a horrible HC.

BEST WISHES!!!!!

 

[puckalicious]

With Carl and presumably Herm gone next season, somebody please tell me this bodes well for us poor LJ owners in dynasty. He's at least a "hold", since his value is too low to sell and nobody is willing to buy.

If you don't own LJ, is he a good "buy" value now?

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Congrats Kevin and Chiefs fans...Kevin, I know we've debated in the past on Herm... Wonder if many Chief's fans still believe, if not, I hope for the best and your next GM / HC takes that team to a better places....It was never personal - I just thought all along that Herm was Peterson's puppet and while a great man, is a horrible HC.BEST WISHES!!!!!

I have seen the light with Herm -- I think he might be a fine DC, but there are way too many high picks on that defense for it to be that bad. An d I am of the belief that NO team can whiff that many times, so it has to speak to coaching. That means I blame Gunther Cunningham just as much

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

With Carl and presumably Herm gone next season, somebody please tell me this bodes well for us poor LJ owners in dynasty. He's at least a "hold", since his value is too low to sell and nobody is willing to buy.If you don't own LJ, is he a good "buy" value now?

Only buy if you like 30-year old RBs with an average OL and an unknown QB situation.

 

[bjabrad]

http://www.kansascity.com/180/story/938738.html

Hunt left open the fate of coach Herm Edwards, saying the decision on whether Edwards would return in 2009 would not be made until after a new general manager is hired.

“Ultimately, the decision on his future and the rest of the coaching staff’s is one the new GM will have significant input into,” Hunt said. “It will be my decision.

Hunt said the Chiefs would divide Peterson’s responsibilities. The president will handle the team’s business operations; the general manager will oversee the football side.

Denny Thum, the Chiefs’ longtime executive vice president, will serve as interim president and general manager. He could be a strong candidate to become president.

Hunt said he would begin a search for a new general manager soon and consider only candidates from outside the organization. He would not identify any candidates, but Scott Pioli, the New England Patriots’ vice president for player personnel, would probably be at or near the top of Hunt’s list.

 

[bjabrad]

With Carl and presumably Herm gone next season, somebody please tell me this bodes well for us poor LJ owners in dynasty. He's at least a "hold", since his value is too low to sell and nobody is willing to buy.If you don't own LJ, is he a good "buy" value now?

Only buy if you like 30-year old RBs with an average OL and an unknown QB situation.

Kevin,I'm sure you saw more KC games than I did this year so I want to know your opinion of the KC offensive line. Are they average or were they the liability reason that KC resorted to a spread offense and used a QB that ran the ball a lot. Smart move IMO to counter defensive team tendencies to stack the box against the LJ run. A lot of things could possibly change in the off season. New GM (Bill Cowher or Scott Pioli???), President and possibly Head Coach (Bill Cowher or Chan Gailey???) and a new HC could mean a new Offensive and Defensive Coordinator. If KC abandons the spread offense, how effective will Thigpen be as a traditional drop back QB?Any and all opinions are welcome.

 

[sparkky]

THANK YOU JESUS!!! It's LONGGGG past due.

I doubt Cowher leaves the east coast.

Marty could be a thought.

 

[Banger]

this is just my opinion but I think it's highly likely that Herm is gone next year. It's true he had a bunch of rook's and not a lot of talent but he really managed several games absolutely horribly.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with the QB situation.

 

[skillz]

On Mike and Mike this morning they said that one of the candidates for the GM job may be some guy (can't remember his name) working in the front office position for the Jets who was the one that made the decision to hire Herm. They were speculating that if he does somehow get the job that maybe Herm would be retained since he brought him in to coach the Jets years ago. I would feel sorry for all Chiefs fans if that happened.

 

[5Rings]

Kevin,

I seem to recall you as a huge Peterson fan the last few years, especially last season when you thought the Chiefs were a playoff team. What changed since then?

 

[puckalicious]

With Carl and presumably Herm gone next season, somebody please tell me this bodes well for us poor LJ owners in dynasty. He's at least a "hold", since his value is too low to sell and nobody is willing to buy.If you don't own LJ, is he a good "buy" value now?

Only buy if you like 30-year old RBs with an average OL and an unknown QB situation.

Maybe I'm just looking for hope where there is none. I recall Fred Taylor doing quite well last season under those same circumstances. And by the way, LJ just turned 29 less than a month ago.

 

[-OZ-]

I've been a Lions fan and followed the Chiefs closely while I lived there, 2 for 2 this year!

Honestly, I thought CP did a decent job, business-wise. If that were all that mattered.

 

[Reaper]

On Mike and Mike this morning they said that one of the candidates for the GM job may be some guy (can't remember his name) working in the front office position for the Jets who was the one that made the decision to hire Herm. They were speculating that if he does somehow get the job that maybe Herm would be retained since he brought him in to coach the Jets years ago. I would feel sorry for all Chiefs fans if that happened.

TERRY BRADWAY????I wouldn't wish that on many teams - Maybe Miami or NE..Bradway admitted he wanted to work Part time when he was with the Jets. He lived hours away from the complex and wanted to spend time with his kids.... Really with the Jets, he was the guy I hated most - partly for hiring Herm who never coached either side of the ball and partly for draft moves like trading TWO 1st round picks for Dewayne Robertson to "appease the fans that were upset over losing players to the Skins" - yeah, after Bradway allowed the a Skins fans to decide arbitration on one of the moves... Unbelievable.This better not be the name - and KEEPING Herm.. Puhlease.

 

[NDMatt]

I can understand the frustration with Peterson...but what do Chiefs fans think about the decisions to trade Jared Allen and draft Dorsey....both at the time and now looking back?

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

With Carl and presumably Herm gone next season, somebody please tell me this bodes well for us poor LJ owners in dynasty. He's at least a "hold", since his value is too low to sell and nobody is willing to buy.If you don't own LJ, is he a good "buy" value now?

Only buy if you like 30-year old RBs with an average OL and an unknown QB situation.

Kevin,I'm sure you saw more KC games than I did this year so I want to know your opinion of the KC offensive line. Are they average or were they the liability reason that KC resorted to a spread offense and used a QB that ran the ball a lot. Smart move IMO to counter defensive team tendencies to stack the box against the LJ run. A lot of things could possibly change in the off season. New GM (Bill Cowher or Scott Pioli???), President and possibly Head Coach (Bill Cowher or Chan Gailey???) and a new HC could mean a new Offensive and Defensive Coordinator. If KC abandons the spread offense, how effective will Thigpen be as a traditional drop back QB?Any and all opinions are welcome.

My opinion of KC's OL is that they have have two nice parts -- Brian Waters and Brandon Albert. Albert has done great as a rookie and was worth the pick. The rest of the starters (Niswanger, Jones, etc) are horrible. The spread offense has protected them, as it decreases the time one must pass block.The spread was implemented only when Thigpen was the last QB we had. He ran it @ Costal Carolina. Gailey adapted to what he was dealt. Thigpen started in ATL and was God-awful at dropping back and then reading the D. I think many have soured on TT as he has not been All-World in the spread and stil is good for 3-4 bad decisions per game. TT is an NFL backup, one I would like to have, but not as my franchise guy.As for LJ, I think honestly that he is released or traded this offseason. His off-field crap has worn on everyone...not to mention he does not run as hard as he did before he got his payday. He will also be 30, as stated before.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

Kevin,I seem to recall you as a huge Peterson fan the last few years, especially last season when you thought the Chiefs were a playoff team. What changed since then?

I don't recall ever being a Peterson "fan". Was I being a FAN of my team? Of course, as would anyone else whose team was getting crap thrown at it 8 months removed from a playoff berth. You may not like my defensiveness, but fans are fans.I thought Carl should have been done after the two-year Gunther Cunningham debacle 99-00.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

With Carl and presumably Herm gone next season, somebody please tell me this bodes well for us poor LJ owners in dynasty. He's at least a "hold", since his value is too low to sell and nobody is willing to buy.If you don't own LJ, is he a good "buy" value now?

Only buy if you like 30-year old RBs with an average OL and an unknown QB situation.

Maybe I'm just looking for hope where there is none. I recall Fred Taylor doing quite well last season under those same circumstances. And by the way, LJ just turned 29 less than a month ago.

Hence, he will be 30 next season, as I said.LJ is not the same guy as before he got paid and ran angry. Couple that with off-field stuff, and I doubt he is back in KC. Look at other backs who have had 400 carries....most never return to greatness -- at least on a consistent basis.I would not buy LJ at all in a dynasty.

 

[Kevin Ashcraft]

I can understand the frustration with Peterson...but what do Chiefs fans think about the decisions to trade Jared Allen and draft Dorsey....both at the time and now looking back?

Trading Allen was horrible, but at that point KC would have lost him anyway and got nothing.CP balked at giving Allen a long-term deal after the two DUIs, so Allen and he had a falling out and Allen vowed to not re-sign here (would have been UFA after this season). So trading him at that point was best for KC. If you keep him, you get nothing when he walks.But it never should have been that. CP gave a TON of $$$ to Larry Johnson, who had several off-field incidents. CP's actions were incongruent. Not only that, he flushed money away on new deals for Patrick Surtain when he was traded for, and Tony Gonzalez -- who is awesome, but he is a TE. CP drove Allen away, and Allen's reactions drove CP to trade him.As for Dorsey, it is WAY too early to tell, and me being defensive, if KC was wrong on him 2-3 years down the line, then the entire league was, so you cannot blame that on CP.And for the record, the 1st KC got for Allen was used on LT Brandon Albert, who has been a great LT this season.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

couple comments as a long time KC fan...

1. This is a good thing for KC....Peterson had the rep of being a tough/obstinate negotiator with players, a change has to be good in this area for keeping current players and signing potential free agents...Peterson never really liked to open up the wallet, so maybe they will get some new blood in the front office to pay some free agents to come in and mix with the young core they have assembled....

2. Even though KC continues to lose, I have actually seen some things I like that don’t necessarily show up on the scoreboard….this team continues to play hard, even vets like Gonzo, etc as well as the young guys…I have heard talk that others teams like what KC has done and think they will be tough in years to come....

3. The team continues to play hard for Herm and he may not be the best coach, but I think he is a good coach for what the team is going through right now….it is going to be hard to get a high profile coach (Bill Cowher or somebody) to come into this situation, because most of those type of coaches are going to want a chance to win the super bowl right away…..Herm understands his role right now and I think he is doing a good job…and the more they continue to lose this year, the higher their draft pick will be, which is good…as terrible as it sounds I would almost just rather see them continue to lose....if you don't make the playoofs, you mind as well get a higher draft pick.....for years KC would always be copmpetitive even if they didn't make the playoffs, and they were always stuck later draft picks.....

even though the last two seasons have been a joke, I saw some things that have me optimistic....and replacing Carl will help....adding some free agents and some more good draft picks, might lure a better coach down the road....

 

[Reaper]

3. The team continues to play hard for Herm and he may not be the best coach, but I think he is a good coach for what the team is going through right now….it is going to be hard to get a high profile coach (Bill Cowher or somebody) to come into this situation, because most of those type of coaches are going to want a chance to win the super bowl right away…..

From what you say, and from what we know, why couldn't KC be next year's Miami Dolphins with the right GM/HC???

Sounds like the defense could be good with another good piece or 2.. LJ could be Ronnie Brown and you add a QB with experience plus continue to build the OL... With Gonzo, LJ and Bowe, they have threats.

Sounds to me like one of the better spots for a HC/GM to land...

 

[The Jacket]

I can't stand Germ and want him fired yesterday, but one thing I can say about him is that he hasn't left the team completely bare unlike a lot of other teams out there. A new GM and coach can come in here with Gonzo, LJ, Bowe, some other young weapons like Bradley and Charles, some young talent on the DL (that I firmly believe will play well if coached properly), and a pretty nice defensive backfield (one thing Herm can do well -- find CBs). In addition they'll have the No. 2 or 3 pick and a boatload of money to get a couple decent FAs, ala Miami or Atlanta.

 

[Futeki]

Bill Cowher will be the next GM of the KC Chiefs. Lock.

Stop that. Please don't get my hopes up.

 

[bjabrad]

3. The team continues to play hard for Herm and he may not be the best coach, but I think he is a good coach for what the team is going through right now….it is going to be hard to get a high profile coach (Bill Cowher or somebody) to come into this situation, because most of those type of coaches are going to want a chance to win the super bowl right away…..

From what you say, and from what we know, why couldn't KC be next year's Miami Dolphins with the right GM/HC???

Sounds like the defense could be good with another good piece or 2.. LJ could be Ronnie Brown and you add a QB with experience plus continue to build the OL... With Gonzo, LJ and Bowe, they have threats.

Sounds to me like one of the better spots for a HC/GM to land...

The next GM and coach will certainly have a decent amount of honeymoon time to improve since the expectations have been sufficiently lowered. They couldn't get any lower. It's a good situation for a GM/coach since this team has probably bottomed out and will be heading up with the right moves.