Hank Baskett '07 (1 Viewer)

[redman]

Since 1980, here are all the WRs that had a 20.0 ypr and at least 20 receptions as a rookie.

1 Chris Sanders

2 James Jett

3 Kevin House

4 Ernie Jones

5 Charlie Brown

6 Horace Copeland

7 Hank Baskett

8 Aaron Cox

9 Marc Boerigter

10 Willie Gault

11 Ron Brown

12 Jessie Hester

13 Tony Simmons

14 Michael Irvin

15 Daryl Turner

16 Hassan Jones

17 Ricky Nattiel

18 Fred Barnett

Other than Irvin, the majority of the list is pretty :X

Interesting....I wonder how many are 6'4"?

LHUCKS is never wrong, even when he is.

If we point out a few of those receivers as being 6'4", he'll then ask how many of those WR's were in their 2nd grade talent show, or had a mother named Wickah.

BTW- I like Baskett and drafted him in the Red Dog dynasty startup draft, but I'm just sayin'.

 

[zadok]

Lewis knows the system better and is considerred either Curtis' or Brown's primary backup not Baskett.

That is just false. In camp last year, the starting WRs were Brown and Baskett. The only thing that knocked Hank back was the Stallworth trade.

 

[zadok]

I like Baskett, but I can't see him overtaking Curtis for the number 2 spot. Like David said, I see him as being the 5th option.

I see curtis pulling a Stallworth and becoming #1

Stallworth was never #1...

I watched about half the eagle games last yr and I'm Reggie Brown Dynasty owner.. when Both were in the game, Stallworth was option #1 over Brown.... and it drove me nutzWhich is Y in my intial dynasty draft this yr... I made sure I tagged Curtis.. McNabb favors the speed/long routes alot more than the middle.

Well, as someone who watched all the Eagles games last season (some more than once) I can tell you that Brown was the primary WR in that offense all year.

 

[zadok]

LHUCKS you already made a 10+ page thread for this guy, a year ago

I thought I may have, hence the '07 part of the title.I love this kid...I see him going too late in deep drafts and thought I'd bring it up again. Pasquino was on to him before me. I wasn't a believer until I actually got to watch him on TV.

That info and a quarter got you a two bit cup of coffee in the fantasy world last year.

Let's be clear - Baskett is a LONG TERM sleeper for DYNASTY in my eyes, or else in very deep leagues.I don't see him as breaking the Top 50 WR plateau this season, but if things break just right he could get there.

Top 40 / WR3 in big leagues or WR3/4 in avg. leagues is about his upside for 2007.

The bigger upside is if Curtis or Brown get hurt. Then Baskett becomes a true starter and has much more significance.

I agree with this.

 

[zadok]

The bigger upside is if Curtis or Brown get hurt. Then Baskett becomes a true starter and has much more significance.

if he beats out Greg Lewis, Jason Avant, Jeremy Bloom and..hehehe Bethel Johnson their other FA WR signingLewis knows the system better and is considerred either Curtis' or Brown's primary backup not Baskett.

Greg Lewis is TERRIBLE. Curtis guarantees he's gone. His lone role was to stretch the field.Assuming 5-6 WRs are kept:

Reggie Brown

Curtis

Baskett

Avant

Bloom (KR/PR)

Bethel Johnson (KR/PR)

I think so too, but there are others who think Bloom will be cut. It's fairly safe to say the Eagles will cut one WR, so who will it be? Bloom was a dynamic returner in his two college ball years and the Eagles just invested a pick in him last year. He is coming off an injury though and they did bring in Johnson to help on KR/PR duties. Lewis has at least shown what he can do (decent slot receiver, solid depth).I think Glew is gone too, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that he stays and Bloom is gone.

Zadok, what do you think? Over the past year or so I've found you have some kind of crystal ball when it comes to the Birds.

It just comes from close observation and having a pretty good feeling for what the coaches think. I certainly don't have any contacts within the organization like some here do. My gut tells me that Johnson was brought in as insurance in case Bloom busts. It is possible - though I feel unlikely - that they are both kept and Lewis is cut. I'm not as down on Lewis as most are. I think he's a really nice #4/5.

 

[Chunky Soup]

I like Baskett, but I can't see him overtaking Curtis for the number 2 spot. Like David said, I see him as being the 5th option.

I see curtis pulling a Stallworth and becoming #1

Stallworth was never #1...

I watched about half the eagle games last yr and I'm Reggie Brown Dynasty owner.. when Both were in the game, Stallworth was option #1 over Brown.... and it drove me nutzWhich is Y in my intial dynasty draft this yr... I made sure I tagged Curtis.. McNabb favors the speed/long routes alot more than the middle.

Well, as someone who wathced all the Eagles games last season (some more than once) I can tell you that Brown was the primary WR in that offense all year.

I think thats a stretch. It was more like 1a/1b, and maybe even like 1a/1a. I don't know if there was a true primary receiver. Its just how the Eagles work, at least when they don't have TO.Either way, the philosophy of spreading the ball around its going to be hard for the 3rd/4th/5th best rec., and 5,6,7th option (after Smith and Westbrook) on the team to produce consistantly.Even if an injury happens, its a tough competition between Avant, Baskett, Lewis, a rookie for that 2nd rec or 4th targeted spot. Even at that point, it might be a spot by committee (as the eagles have done when better receivers get hurt).WestbrookSmithBrownCurtisAvantBaskettLewispossible rookieJohnsonIts just very crowded.

 

[zadok]

Eagles coaches were raving about this kid from day 1 in camp. He has tremendous athleticism, and is BIG. He showed great hands, and no fear over the nmiddle. The only knock on him was that he was "raw". IE: Questionable route running.

Route running can be taught. He may not be quite ready to step in as a #1, but he'll make a terrific #3. This kid has game, but he'll only produce big numbers this year if Curtis or Brown miss significant time. I love him in dynasty.

Where did this come from? I watched him all year and thought his hands were fairly mediocre. Anyone have his drop numbers? I know that Philly fans were complaining early in the year that he was getting open deep but dropping the ball.

He had a couple of drops early in the season, as most rookie WR's do (jitters)..but made one circus catch after another on the practice field. He looked pretty darned good against Atlanta in the season finale, when all of the Philly starters were yanked and Atlanta was still trying to win.

What nobody will remember is the play that never happened in the Saints playoff game. That 4th down where the false start nullified the play? Baskett made a spectacular catch (and run) that would probably have saved the game. He impressed me all year. Pat Patriot's Eagle-hatred nonwithstanding.

 

[zadok]

Well, as someone who wathced all the Eagles games last season (some more than once) I can tell you that Brown was the primary WR in that offense all year.

I think thats a stretch. It was more like 1a/1b, and maybe even like 1a/1a. I don't know if there was a true primary receiver. Its just how the Eagles work, at least when they don't have TO.

Brown was and is the X. Just like Owens was.

Either way, the philosophy of spreading the ball around its going to be hard for the 3rd/4th/5th best rec., and 5,6,7th option (after Smith and Westbrook) on the team to produce consistantly.

That is true. I generally try to avoid Eagles receivers in fantasy for that very reason. But I still say this WR group is their best in the last 20 years.

 

[zadok]

PS

My "crystal ball" is showing me that Tra Thomas could be dealt on draft day...

 

[Chunky Soup]

I think thats a stretch. It was more like 1a/1b, and maybe even like 1a/1a. I don't know if there was a true primary receiver. Its just how the Eagles work, at least when they don't have TO.

Brown was and is the X. Just like Owens was.

But you can't argue that position as far as the plays called has changed without TO. Brown targets last year: 91 through 16 games. TO targets year 1: 126 through 14 games.TO targets year 2: 92 through 7 games.Saying he is the X receiver doens't mean he is getting the same attention and the philosophy is the same.

 

[David Yudkin]

If I had a point, it would be that Baskett is the 5th RECEIVING option (NOT the 5th WR). With Westbrook, Brown, Smith, and Curtis ahead of him in terms of expected production. How many teams have had 5 players get 500 receiving yards in a season? I don't have an answer, but I can't think of any.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I watched about half the eagle games last yr and I'm Reggie Brown Dynasty owner.. when Both were in the game, Stallworth was option #1 over Brown.... and it drove me nutzWhich is Y in my intial dynasty draft this yr... I made sure I tagged Curtis.. McNabb favors the speed/long routes alot more than the middle.

Well, as someone who watched all the Eagles games last season (some more than once) I can tell you that Brown was the primary WR in that offense all year.

Time to crunch some #s...Reggie Brown: registered 16 games last season w/ 91 targets. That equals less than 5.7 targets a game.Stalworth registered 12 games w/ 78 targets. That equals 6.5 targets a game. More targets = primary WR... its that simple.

 

[Chunky Soup]

I watched about half the eagle games last yr and I'm Reggie Brown Dynasty owner.. when Both were in the game, Stallworth was option #1 over Brown.... and it drove me nutzWhich is Y in my intial dynasty draft this yr... I made sure I tagged Curtis.. McNabb favors the speed/long routes alot more than the middle.

Well, as someone who watched all the Eagles games last season (some more than once) I can tell you that Brown was the primary WR in that offense all year.

Time to crunch some #s...Reggie Brown: registered 16 games last season w/ 91 targets. That equals less than 5.7 targets a game.Stalworth registered 12 games w/ 78 targets. That equals 6.5 targets a game. More targets = primary WR... its that simple.

He averaged less than 1 target / game more. I wouldn't exactly call that primary. You're relating the Eagles offense to the rest of the NFL where primary receivers exist. You can't do that.

 

[KellysHeroes]

He averaged less than 1 target / game more. I wouldn't exactly call that primary. You're relating the Eagles offense to the rest of the NFL where primary receivers exist. You can't do that.

There is; and always will be a "ya, BUT" :X

 

[Bri]

Lewis knows the system better and is considerred either Curtis' or Brown's primary backup not Baskett.

That is just false. In camp last year, the starting WRs were Brown and Baskett. The only thing that knocked Hank back was the Stallworth trade.

According to Eagles website Baskett is Curtis' backup, Lewis is Brown's backup. Still think it's false?

 

[Bri]

I think so too, but there are others who think Bloom will be cut. **snip**

Bloom being who he is and a former Olympian is a lock to show up in great shape and with a great attitude/work ethic. He doesn't look like an NFL WR and doesn't seem to have the moves of Dante Hall or the toughness of Chrebet so ....I'm not sure if he can even hack it as a WR. However, I'd expect he hangs on a while as he's probably an esp good person to have around during camp. In today's pamperred NFL, I'm sure the Iggles will want as many hardworkers as they can get into camp. I do't really disagree with ya, just think it might be a while if it's him.I'm not a Bethel fan as I'm a pats fan and ...well. He's fast, faster than you think but that's about it. I'm not sure why the Eagles signed him but I'd imagine it's to give him a whirl at KR if Bloom doesn't work out like others said. BTW not a college fan, the highlights of Bloom I saw involved pure speed and not much moves. I wouldn't call that dynamic really.If these two are just KRs then Reid will probably consider using another WR or a CB with speed as his returnman and save a roster spot, maybe even use it to pickup a veteran WR. Also I think the Eagles after this draft will find they're too deep at some spots and have to cut some good players. Reid's been real good at keeping his own players and the drafts have landed them some good ones and.....is there enough spots? There's probably 1-3 players number crunched here and I don't foresee a KR adding another spot to the number crunching.I'm not sure either make it without proving they can play WR.

 

[zadok]

Lewis knows the system better and is considerred either Curtis' or Brown's primary backup not Baskett.

That is just false. In camp last year, the starting WRs were Brown and Baskett. The only thing that knocked Hank back was the Stallworth trade.

According to Eagles website Baskett is Curtis' backup, Lewis is Brown's backup. Still think it's false?

As I said, Baskett was ahead of Lewis last year as a rookie in training camp. He is not behind him now in any shape or form.

 

[zadok]

I watched about half the eagle games last yr and I'm Reggie Brown Dynasty owner.. when Both were in the game, Stallworth was option #1 over Brown.... and it drove me nutzWhich is Y in my intial dynasty draft this yr... I made sure I tagged Curtis.. McNabb favors the speed/long routes alot more than the middle.

Well, as someone who watched all the Eagles games last season (some more than once) I can tell you that Brown was the primary WR in that offense all year.

Time to crunch some #s...Reggie Brown: registered 16 games last season w/ 91 targets. That equals less than 5.7 targets a game.Stalworth registered 12 games w/ 78 targets. That equals 6.5 targets a game. More targets = primary WR... its that simple.

The X is the primary WR. It's that simple.

 

[redman]

How many 3-WR sets do the Eagles run? I know they use a TE a lot, but aren't they in a one-back set with Westy a lot too?

 

[zadok]

I think thats a stretch. It was more like 1a/1b, and maybe even like 1a/1a. I don't know if there was a true primary receiver. Its just how the Eagles work, at least when they don't have TO.

Brown was and is the X. Just like Owens was.

But you can't argue that position as far as the plays called has changed without TO. Brown targets last year: 91 through 16 games. TO targets year 1: 126 through 14 games.TO targets year 2: 92 through 7 games.Saying he is the X receiver doens't mean he is getting the same attention and the philosophy is the same.

They were forcing the ball to Owens, no doubt.

 

[zadok]

How many 3-WR sets do the Eagles run?

Tons.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Zadok,

I Tra Thomas gets dealt on draft day do you think they move Herremans or Andrews out to tackle and insert Gilles at Guard or do they put Justice at the tackle spot.

I would prefer Herremans since he has experience at the position already.

EDIT: Also, what does your crystal ball tell you the Eagles are looking to get for trading Thomas.

 

[redman]

How many 3-WR sets do the Eagles run?

Tons.

That was my impression too. I think we can agree that Baskett will be the third WR on the field, no? I'd think he'd beat out Lewis and Avant in that regard, especially because he's got the most unique attributes in terms of height, right?

 

[Chunky Soup]

I think thats a stretch. It was more like 1a/1b, and maybe even like 1a/1a. I don't know if there was a true primary receiver. Its just how the Eagles work, at least when they don't have TO.

Brown was and is the X. Just like Owens was.

But you can't argue that position as far as the plays called has changed without TO. Brown targets last year: 91 through 16 games. TO targets year 1: 126 through 14 games.TO targets year 2: 92 through 7 games.Saying he is the X receiver doens't mean he is getting the same attention and the philosophy is the same.

They were forcing the ball to Owens, no doubt.

So if this is true, how is relating TO and Brown relevant? It seems that all of your posts here keep saying:1) TO was X receiver2) TO was primary receiver3) Brown took over X receiver4) Brown must be primary receiverAfter saying TO was force-fed, your argument is very flawed.

 

[zadok]

Zadok,I Tra Thomas gets dealt on draft day do you think they move Herremans or Andrews out to tackle and insert Gilles at Guard or do they put Justice at the tackle spot.I would prefer Herremans since he has experience at the position already.

I would guess Justice. Herremans has developed very well at G and seems to be far ahead of Jean-Gilles. But you're right, both he and Andrews could play T if needed.

 

[Chunky Soup]

How many 3-WR sets do the Eagles run?

Tons.

That was my impression too. I think we can agree that Baskett will be the third WR on the field, no? I'd think he'd beat out Lewis and Avant in that regard, especially because he's got the most unique attributes in terms of height, right?

I think that him, Avant and Lewis all share unique qualities. They could all be used in different situations. Between those three plus a rookie its not clear who will take the 3rd spot, and my guess its a rotation depending on situation.

 

[zadok]

How many 3-WR sets do the Eagles run?

Tons.

That was my impression too. I think we can agree that Baskett will be the third WR on the field, no? I'd think he'd beat out Lewis and Avant in that regard, especially because he's got the most unique attributes in terms of height, right?

Yes, there is no question that Baskett is the #3 WR at worst and will be on the field a good amount.

 

[zadok]

I think thats a stretch. It was more like 1a/1b, and maybe even like 1a/1a. I don't know if there was a true primary receiver. Its just how the Eagles work, at least when they don't have TO.

Brown was and is the X. Just like Owens was.

But you can't argue that position as far as the plays called has changed without TO. Brown targets last year: 91 through 16 games. TO targets year 1: 126 through 14 games.TO targets year 2: 92 through 7 games.Saying he is the X receiver doens't mean he is getting the same attention and the philosophy is the same.

They were forcing the ball to Owens, no doubt.

So if this is true, how is relating TO and Brown relevant? It seems that all of your posts here keep saying:1) TO was X receiver2) TO was primary receiver3) Brown took over X receiver4) Brown must be primary receiverAfter saying TO was force-fed, your argument is very flawed.

How is it flawed? The X is always the primary WR (IE the "first look") in the Eagles offense.

 

[Kleck.]

Donald Hayes

6'4" 220

20.7 YPC as a Rookie

24.5 YPC in his 2nd year

 

[Bri]

Lewis knows the system better and is considerred either Curtis' or Brown's primary backup not Baskett.

That is just false. In camp last year, the starting WRs were Brown and Baskett. The only thing that knocked Hank back was the Stallworth trade.

According to Eagles website Baskett is Curtis' backup, Lewis is Brown's backup. Still think it's false?

As I said, Baskett was ahead of Lewis last year as a rookie in training camp. He is not behind him now in any shape or form.

I said Lewis not Baskett was the backup to one of them and you said that's false

 

[Bri]

Time to crunch some #s...Reggie Brown: registered 16 games last season w/ 91 targets. That equals less than 5.7 targets a game.Stalworth registered 12 games w/ 78 targets. That equals 6.5 targets a game. More targets = primary WR... its that simple.

this is assuming thy weren't coverred, they were the first option for McNabb to look to and McNabb didn't look to his next option. Champ Bailey games, for example, I'm sure it'd appear the #2 WR was the primary WR following this scenario

 

[Bri]

How is it flawed? The X is always the primary WR (IE the "first look") in the Eagles offense.

It's not for every single play though. I've seen plenty of quick pass plays near the goalline for Smith and plenty that involved a second or two stall so McNabb could sling it to Westbrook. IIRC I also saw a few plays that were as if McNabb said to Baskett "go deep" in the huddle.

 

[grind]

I think Micheal Turner will get trade before the draft.

 

[Banger]

this reminds me of Darius Watts hype a few years back.

 

[Beaumont]

Can we agree that he is a great dynasty stash (a bit late for that now, maybe somewhere between 70-90, not including this years rooks) but has no real value in redrafts other than a late flyer, even in 16 teamers?

ETA: As an undrafted rook, if he performs well he can leave Phi soon I imagine for greener pastures ...

 

[Chunky Soup]

I think thats a stretch. It was more like 1a/1b, and maybe even like 1a/1a. I don't know if there was a true primary receiver. Its just how the Eagles work, at least when they don't have TO.

Brown was and is the X. Just like Owens was.

But you can't argue that position as far as the plays called has changed without TO. Brown targets last year: 91 through 16 games. TO targets year 1: 126 through 14 games.TO targets year 2: 92 through 7 games.Saying he is the X receiver doens't mean he is getting the same attention and the philosophy is the same.

They were forcing the ball to Owens, no doubt.

So if this is true, how is relating TO and Brown relevant? It seems that all of your posts here keep saying:1) TO was X receiver2) TO was primary receiver3) Brown took over X receiver4) Brown must be primary receiverAfter saying TO was force-fed, your argument is very flawed.

How is it flawed? The X is always the primary WR (IE the "first look") in the Eagles offense.

First, according to this, Brown is not truely the X.Stallworth's wikipedia:

The Eagles made the deal for him because they needed a speed receiver to line up at the X in Andy Reid's version of the West Coast Offense

Reid, per philadephiaeagles.com:

Reid announced on Monday afternoon that Stallworth would start at the 'X' wide receiver position Sunday in Houston

Either way, my real argument isn't who is the X receiver, or if the X reciever is the primary receiver, its that there is a 1WR/1WR in Philly. Can you tell me why/how the X is always the primary ("first look"). Your first evidence was TO. Then you said TO was forced the ball. Because TO was a special situation (admitted by you, this does not show that X receivers besides TO (ie Brown) are primary receivers.Before and after TO there was near equal distribution between the top 2 or more receivers. Look at the targets and watch the games. My belief is that it is as almost as close to a WR1/WR1 as it gets.

 

[Banger]

I like Baskett, but I can't see him overtaking Curtis for the number 2 spot. Like David said, I see him as being the 5th option.

I see curtis pulling a Stallworth and becoming #1

Stallworth was never #1...

Who plays the X vs. Y, the primary, 1a/b, etc. is irrelevant IMO. What matters is who gets the fantasy points. When both were in the lineup together (even though Stallworth was gimpy some of the time after coming back) Stallworth got more fantasy points in 8 of 10 games and outproduced him 100 pts to 67 (49% more). That's what matters.It's more accurate to say Brown was only the #1 when Stallworth was out of the lineup.

 

[switz]

I watched about half the eagle games last yr and I'm Reggie Brown Dynasty owner.. when Both were in the game, Stallworth was option #1 over Brown.... and it drove me nutzWhich is Y in my intial dynasty draft this yr... I made sure I tagged Curtis.. McNabb favors the speed/long routes alot more than the middle.

Well, as someone who watched all the Eagles games last season (some more than once) I can tell you that Brown was the primary WR in that offense all year.

Time to crunch some #s...Reggie Brown: registered 16 games last season w/ 91 targets. That equals less than 5.7 targets a game.Stalworth registered 12 games w/ 78 targets. That equals 6.5 targets a game. More targets = primary WR... its that simple.

The X is the primary WR. It's that simple.

That's the dumbest comment I've heard anyone make on these boards in a LONG time. X is a position on the field. It doesn't mean the X WR is the #1 option on most plays in the playbook. It doesn't mean in a given game, the coach will call more plays where X is the primary option, than where Y is. It doesn't mean the QB is going to look at X first, even if he is the "primary" option as diagrammed. It doesn't mean the best WR plays X. It's spot on the field.And I don't even care WHO was the #1 WR last year on the Iggles. I just hate stupid comments like that. This is the Shark Pool, people around here should be educated.

 

[zadok]

Either way, my real argument isn't who is the X receiver, or if the X reciever is the primary receiver, its that there is a 1WR/1WR in Philly. Can you tell me why/how the X is always the primary ("first look"). Your first evidence was TO. Then you said TO was forced the ball. Because TO was a special situation (admitted by you, this does not show that X receivers besides TO (ie Brown) are primary receivers.

This is getting really tedious...Not only Owens, but James Thrash and Charles Johnson before him. Brown has assumed that role. But as I said, I try to avoid Eagles WRs in general because of the emphasis they place on "spreading it around". The only time they didn't do that was with Owens. Reggie Brown (assuming healthy) will catch the most passes for the Eagles this season at WR (IE the the #1 WR). I guarantee it. Feel free to disagree if you feel like it.

 

[zadok]

That's the dumbest comment I've heard anyone make on these boards in a LONG time. X is a position on the field. It doesn't mean the X WR is the #1 option on most plays in the playbook. It doesn't mean in a given game, the coach will call more plays where X is the primary option, than where Y is. It doesn't mean the QB is going to look at X first, even if he is the "primary" option as diagrammed. It doesn't mean the best WR plays X. It's spot on the field.And I don't even care WHO was the #1 WR last year on the Iggles. I just hate stupid comments like that. This is the Shark Pool, people around here should be educated.

That's very non-excellent of you.

 

[switz]

That's the dumbest comment I've heard anyone make on these boards in a LONG time. X is a position on the field. It doesn't mean the X WR is the #1 option on most plays in the playbook. It doesn't mean in a given game, the coach will call more plays where X is the primary option, than where Y is. It doesn't mean the QB is going to look at X first, even if he is the "primary" option as diagrammed. It doesn't mean the best WR plays X. It's spot on the field.And I don't even care WHO was the #1 WR last year on the Iggles. I just hate stupid comments like that. This is the Shark Pool, people around here should be educated.

That's very non-excellent of you. :X

You're right - it was. My apologies for offending you. I probably shouldn't have taken that tone. Even if the X is typically the primary option in the Eagles playbook, it does not -= the X WR being the #1 on the team. It's that simple.

 

[David Yudkin]

If I had a point, it would be that Baskett is the 5th RECEIVING option (NOT the 5th WR). With Westbrook, Brown, Smith, and Curtis ahead of him in terms of expected production. How many teams have had 5 players get 500 receiving yards in a season? I don't have an answer, but I can't think of any.

I still can't find an example of a team with 5 players of 500+ receiving yards . . .

 

[Bri]

If I had a point, it would be that Baskett is the 5th RECEIVING option (NOT the 5th WR). With Westbrook, Brown, Smith, and Curtis ahead of him in terms of expected production. How many teams have had 5 players get 500 receiving yards in a season? I don't have an answer, but I can't think of any.

I still can't find an example of a team with 5 players of 500+ receiving yards . . .

I looked after your post and didn't find anyHouston w/Moon is what came to mind but....

 

[Snotbubbles]

The 2004 Colts almost did it.

 

[KellysHeroes]

this is assuming thy weren't coverred, they were the first option for McNabb to look to and McNabb didn't look to his next option. Champ Bailey games, for example, I'm sure it'd appear the #2 WR was the primary WR following this scenario

Always a "ya, But"Then the other poster hit it on the head.. When Reggie Brown and Stallworth Lined up.. Stallworth out proformed Brown 8 out of 10 times..And this yr; Brown will be sucking up the #1 CB on every Defense while Curtis is burning the #2...And I love that Watts conment

 

[LHUCKS]

LHUCKS is never wrong, even when he is.

:11:

 

[Family Matters]

Donald Hayes

6'4" 220

20.7 YPC as a Rookie

24.5 YPC in his 2nd year

Deep sleeper?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Ok, I like Hank Baskett. But this is getting ridiculous.

First a player comparison or two - I equate Hank Baskett's abilities to about Patrick Crayton or Bryant Johnson.

Now, because Hank's an Eagle, his value is actually LOWER. That's right - LOWER.

Why?

In Arizona or Dallas, they have 2 primary WRs and use them often. That's not the case in Philly (or NE, another

"bad home" for WRs - fantasy wise).

Hank won't get 50 catches or 750 yards this year even if he was the #3 WR. The Eagles play a WCO, which uses the TE and RB (Westy) often. As such, there's less targets to the WRs, even #1 and #2, and certainly the 3rd or 4th WR.

If Baskett was in Crayton's or Johnson's role on that team, he'd hold higher value as if one of the top 2 WRs got hurt, he'd step in and get 5-8 targets a week. That doesn't often happen to the Top 2 WRs in Philly, or even the #1.

Baskett's a talented undrafted rookie from last season, better than a good percentage, talent-wise, of the WRs in the league - but his stats won't reflect that due to his chances on the field.

This is why the Dynasty Baskett is > the Redraft Baskett.

 

[LHUCKS]

but his stats won't reflect that due to his chances on the field.

Number of full seasons that Curtis and Brown have started in the NFL?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

but his stats won't reflect that due to his chances on the field.

Number of full seasons that Curtis and Brown have started in the NFL?

Fewer than the average of irrelevant stats posted by LHUCKS in a thread he starts.