Happy B-Day Broadway Joe ! (1 Viewer)

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Other than Suzy Kolber, who was on the receiving end of Joe Namath's last pass?

 

[wannabee]

was he better than unitas?

 

[Jackal]

bobby brady?

 

[Sea Bass]

How many passing yards in the fourth quarter against the Colts in Super Bowl III?

 

[fatness]

Who does Joe want to kiss?

 

[NoFBinLA]

Other than Suzy Kolber, who was on the receiving end of Joe Namath's last pass?

That's hilarious.

 

[cstu]

Who is the worst QB in the HOF?

 

[Raider Nation]

Who is the worst QB PLAYER in the HOF?

fixed.

 

[LordHusker]

Who is the worst QB PLAYER in the HOF?

fixed.

Can't you guys ever lighten up? Broadway Joe is a classic. Give him a little love on his 63rd B-day. You're practically ragging on a senior citizen.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

You guys suck.

Joe Namath's last NFL pass was also Bear safety Gary Fencik's first NFL interception.

I remember it well.... it was a Monday Night Football game.

 

[dgreen]

You guys suck.

Joe Namath's last NFL pass was also Bear safety Gary Fencik's first NFL interception.

I remember it well.... it was a Monday Night Football game.

LOL. I was going to jokingly say that his last pass was to someone on the other team.

 

[JohnDoe]

Who is the worst QB PLAYER in the HOF?

fixed.

Lynn Swann down?

 

[gump]

What did Bear Bryant suspend Namath for prior to the Nat'l Championship Orange Bowl?

 

[glock]

Joe Willie tossed the rock for a personal best of 496 yards and six touchdowns in a 44-34 victory as the opposing QB threw for 376 yards... the two combining for a then NFL record 872 passing yards.

Who was the "other" QB?

 

[Green Apple Splatter]

Joe Willie tossed the rock for a personal best of 496 yards and six touchdowns in a 44-34 victory as the opposing QB threw for 376 yards... the two combining for a then NFL record 872 passing yards.

Who was the "other" QB?

JU

 

[BigRed]

You guys suck.

I think you're the last to know (of those it doesn't apply to that is). cripes Grid, you're aging worse than I feared.

 

[Green Apple Splatter]

was he better than unitas?

Hell, Bert Jones was better than Namath.

 

[glock]

was he better than unitas?

Hell, Bert Jones was better than Namath.

 

[Blackhawk 69]

What was the date he predicted victory on Johnny Carson's show?

 

[Green Apple Splatter]

was he better than unitas?

Hell, Bert Jones was better than Namath.

Well, he was !!!

 

[JohnnyU]

was he better than unitas?

Hell, Bert Jones was better than Namath.

Well, he was !!!

Yes, Jones was better than Namath IMO. No doubt about it. Take away SB3, forget about it....

 

[gump]

What did Bear Bryant suspend Namath for prior to the Nat'l Championship Orange Bowl?

Guess no one know or cares...but:Namath was found directing traffic on Sunday morning in the middle of the busiest intersection in downtown Tuscaloosa. Most were going to church...Namath was still up.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Who is the worst QB in the HOF?

Bob Griese

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

Who is the worst QB in the HOF?

Bob Griese

Actually I was at the HOF a few years ago and former Bear backup QB Peter Tom Willis was there.... so I'd have to say the 'worst QB in the HOF' is.... Bob Griese.

 

[Mik789fl]

Say what you want about Joe Willie,but his place in NFL history is undeniable. He was the face of The first AFL team to defeat The Old NFL. Part of Rozelle's vision was to unite the old(and more exciting) AFL with The NFL. The Jets victory in SB III created the tipping point that got the "old guard" on board the express that Rozelle created. Joe's unique character helped the transition when the merger was complete,he was a "media" darling and Rozelle knew the league needed identities,Namath was a big part of that. I don't think it's over the edge to say the 2 most important games in NFL history were the Colts-Giants overtime game that put the league in a national spotlight and Super Bowl 3 that put credability into Rozelle's vision.

 

[glock]

Who is the worst QB in the HOF?

Bob Griese

Look up his career passer rating and compare it to other HOF QB's... Edited to add: Okay- NOT his career passer rating, but rather his NFL career rating.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

Who is the worst QB in the HOF?

Bob Griese

Look up his career passer rating and compare it to other HOF QB's...

One more thing, then I am done with this argument:Bob Griese: Comp. % (56.2%) TD/INT (192/172)

Brian Griese: Comp. % (63.1%) TD/INT (103/78)

 

[JohnnyU]

Say what you want about Joe Willie,but his place in NFL history is undeniable. He was the face of The first AFL team to defeat The Old NFL. Part of Rozelle's vision was to unite the old(and more exciting) AFL with The NFL. The Jets victory in SB III created the tipping point that got the "old guard" on board the express that Rozelle created. Joe's unique character helped the transition when the merger was complete,he was a "media" darling and Rozelle knew the league needed identities,Namath was a big part of that. I don't think it's over the edge to say the 2 most important games in NFL history were the Colts-Giants overtime game that put the league in a national spotlight and Super Bowl 3 that put credability into Rozelle's vision.

....but one has to think SB3 was fixed, with video showing that Earl Morrall looked right at an open Jimmy Orr waving his arms, but instead thew over the middle for Johnny Sample to pickoff. Bubba Smith also told a cabbie the game was fixed.

 

[glock]

Who is the worst QB in the HOF?

Bob Griese

Look up his career passer rating and compare it to other HOF QB's...

One more thing, then I am done with this argument:Bob Griese: Comp. % (56.2%) TD/INT (192/172)

Brian Griese: Comp. % (63.1%) TD/INT (103/78)

Got me there...For the span that I recall in my youth he led the league for several years and was considered the #1 ranked QB- see '71-'77.

 

[FunkyPlutos]

After looking at Namath's stats...maybe I will have to change my opinion about Griese.

 

[glock]

Career Passer Ratings as of 2003

Minimum 1500 Career Attempts

1 KURT WARNER 97.2

2 Steve Young 96.8

3 Joe Montana * 92.3

4 JEFF GARCIA 88.3

5 PEYTON MANNING 88.1

6 DAUNTE CULPEPPER + 88.0

7 BRETT FAVRE 86.9

8 Otto Graham * # 86.6

9 Dan Marino 86.4

10 TRENT GREEN 86.1

11 TOM BRADY + 85.9

12 MARK BRUNELL 85.2

13 RICH GANNON 84.7

14 Jim Kelly * 84.4

15 BRAD JOHNSON 84.117

16 STEVE McNAIR 84.076

17 Roger Staubach * 83.4

18 BRIAN GRIESE 83.0

19 Neil Lomax 82.7

20 Sonny Jurgensen * 82.63

21 Len Dawson * 82.56

22 AARON BROOKS + 82.1

23 Ken Anderson 81.9

24 Bernie Kosar 81.827

25 NEIL O'DONNELL 81.816

26 Danny White 81.7

27 Troy Aikman 81.6

28 Dave Krieg 81.50

29 Randall Cunningham 81.47

30 Boomer Esiason 81.1

31 Warren Moon 80.9

32 Jeff Hostetler 80.48

33 Bart Starr * 80.47

34 Ken O'Brien 80.44

35 Jeff George 80.42

36 Fran Tarkenton * 80.35

37 STEVE BEUERLEIN 80.3

38 Dan Fouts * 80.2

39 John Elway * 79.9

40 CHRIS CHANDLER 79.8

41 Tony Eason 79.7

42 Elvis Grbac 79.6

43 DONOVAN McNABB 79.3

44 Mark Rypien 78.9

45 Jim Everett 78.6

46 Phil Simms 78.5

47 Bert Jones 78.21

48 Johnny Unitas * 78.20

49 Jim McMahon 78.18

50 JEFF BLAKE 78.127

51 JAY FIEDLER + 78.071

52 Bobby Hebert 78.0

53 Frank Ryan 77.61

54 Jim Harbaugh 77.60

55 Joe Theismann 77.4

56 Bob Griese * 77.1

57 Bill Kenney 77.0

58 DREW BLEDSOE 76.7

59 Erik Kramer 76.64

60 Gary Danielson 76.58

61 DOUG FLUTIE 76.3

62 GUS FREROTTE 76.1

63 Stan Humphries 75.8

64 JON KITNA 75.7

65 Wade Wilson 75.6

66 Steve Bartkowski 75.4

67 VINNY TESTAVERDE 75.363

68 Ken Stabler 75.308

69 Scott Mitchell 75.279

70 Steve Bono 75.273

71 TIM COUCH 75.136

72 Norm Van Brocklin * 75.070

73 Sid Luckman * 75.0

74 Chris Miller 74.9

75 Don Meredith 74.84

76 Brian Sipe 74.80

77 Y.A. Tittle * # 74.3

78 Roman Gabriel 74.29

79 Steve DeBerg 74.24

80 Earl Morrall 74.1

81 Craig Morton 73.5

82 RODNEY PEETE 73.3

83 KERRY COLLINS 73.1

84 Don Majkowski 72.95

85 Daryle Lamonica 72.944

86 Greg Landry 72.938

87 Ron Jaworski 72.78

88 Tommy Kramer 72.77

89 TONY BANKS 72.5

90 Bubby Brister 72.28

91 John Brodie 72.27

92 Milt Plum 72.22

93 Sammy Baugh * 72.21

94 Billy Wade 72.19

95 Jay Schroeder 71.7

96 Bill Kilmer 71.6

97 Bill Munson 71.5

98 JAKE PLUMMER 71.2

99 TRENT DILFER 71.1

100 Lynn Dickey 70.94

101 Terry Bradshaw * 70.92

102 KORDELL STEWART 70.7

103 Bill Nelson 70.2

104 Vince Ferragamo 70.1

105 Steve Grogan 69.6

106 Doug Williams 69.4

107 Charley Johnson 69.2

108 Mike Tomczak 68.9

109 Eric Hipple 68.7

110 Joe Ferguson 68.4

111 Charley Conerly 68.2

112 Dave Brown 67.9

113 Billy Joe Tolliver 67.74

114 Marc Wilson 67.70

115 Tom Flores 67.58

116 Richard Todd 67.57

117 Jim Plunkett 67.5

118 John Hadl 67.4

119 Jim Zorn 67.3

120 Archie Manning 67.1

121 Jim Hart 66.6

122 Norm Snead 65.54

123 Joe Namath * 65.46

124 RICK MIRER 63.5

125 Bobby Layne * 63.38

126 Jack Trudeau 63.32

127 Mike Livingston 63.28

128 Mike Pagel 63.26

129 Ed Brown 62.8

130 Mark Malone 61.9

131 Bob Waterfield * 61.6

132 Eddie LeBaron 61.4

133 George Blanda * 60.6

134 Babe Parilli 59.6

135 Dan Pastorini 59.1

136 Jack Kemp 57.3

137 Tobin Rote 56.8

138 Cotton Davidson 54.9

139 Mike Phipps 52.6

140 Frank Tripucka 52.2

ACTIVE IN 2003

* Pro Football Hall of Fame Member

# Includes All-America Football Conference (1946-1949)

+ Reached 1,500 career attempts during 2003 to qualify for list.

 

[gump]

So, let me see if I understand the board's general thoughts correctly:

Joe Namath wasn't any good, even though he won a Super Bowl, because his rating was bad.

Peyton Manning isn't any good, even though is rating is good, because he hasn't won a Super Bowl.

 

[Mik789fl]

Say what you want about Joe Willie,but his place in NFL history is undeniable. He was the face of The first AFL team to defeat The Old NFL. Part of Rozelle's vision was to unite the old(and more exciting) AFL with The NFL. The Jets victory in SB III created the tipping point that got the "old guard" on board the express that Rozelle created. Joe's unique character helped the transition when the merger was complete,he was a "media" darling and Rozelle knew the league needed identities,Namath was a big part of that. I don't think it's over the edge to say the 2 most important games in NFL history were the Colts-Giants overtime game that put the league in a national spotlight and Super Bowl 3 that put credability into Rozelle's vision.

....but one has to think SB3 was fixed, with video showing that Earl Morrall looked right at an open Jimmy Orr waving his arms, but instead thew over the middle for Johnny Sample to pickoff. Bubba Smith also told a cabbie the game was fixed.

Yea,I heard the Bubba telling the cabbie story. Think about that,Bubba told a cabbie? IF the game was fixed,and Bubba knew it was,I'd like to check his bank account just before and just after the game,or the accounts of any of the key Colts players who might have thrown the game. The Jets,and several AFL teams,were better than The NFL could admit and Shula was outcoached,he admitted as much after the game. Don't forget,Weeb Ewbank was coaching most of those Colts players just a few years earlier and knew them well,very similiar to what John Gruden did to Callahan and The Raiders in '02.

 

[Ed Wood]

Back to the trivia...

Joe said in his autobiography he only drinks on two occasions. What two occasions are they?

 

[RudeDog]

Back to the trivia...

Joe said in his autobiography he only drinks on two occasions. What two occasions are they?

Waking and eating

 

[Ed Wood]

Back to the trivia...

Joe said in his autobiography he only drinks on two occasions. What two occasions are they?

Waking and eating

Good guesses but not quite...

 

[Ed Wood]

Back to the trivia...

Joe said in his autobiography he only drinks on two occasions. What two occasions are they?

Waking and eating

Good guesses but not quite...

I'll be back to check your answers tomorrow night. No cheating!!!

 

[Kiddnets]

I could care less about the team strugggggalllllingg...

-Joe Namath - Jets PR Dept.

 

[fatness]

Trivia: What was Joe Namath's famous quote about Astroturf?

 

[Jack Ham & Eggs]

In fairness to the old timers, most of them would have much higher passer ratings in today's game. Think Johnny U would only be at 78.2 in this era? Me neither.

 

[JohnnyU]

Trivia: What was Joe Namath's famous quote about Astroturf?

I don't know, but I do know Bert Jones quote about Astroturf, he said, "I hate it, because when I spit my tobacco, there aren't any earthworms to hit".

 

[Ghost Rider]

Even though I think Namath wasn't that good, passer rating is the dumbest stat in sports.

 

[Mr.Blonde]

In fairness to the old timers, most of them would have much higher passer ratings in today's game. Think Johnny U would only be at 78.2 in this era? Me neither.

Thank you. The "QB rating" statistic is biased towards a high completion % and a low interception %. Back in the day, passing was not used as a "ball control" option. Pass routes were deeper and targeted to speedy WR's, very few pass routes were hitches, flat passes and dump-offs to the RB, and TE's and RB's were just not used in the passing game as they are today.

I have absolutely no empirical evidence to back this up, but I would bet that Namath probably has one of the higher average distance per TD pass of all of the players listed above.

 

[glock]

In fairness to the old timers, most of them would have much higher passer ratings in today's game. Think Johnny U would only be at 78.2 in this era? Me neither.

Thank you. The "QB rating" statistic is biased towards a high completion % and a low interception %. Back in the day, passing was not used as a "ball control" option. Pass routes were deeper and targeted to speedy WR's, very few pass routes were hitches, flat passes and dump-offs to the RB, and TE's and RB's were just not used in the passing game as they are today.

I have absolutely no empirical evidence to back this up, but I would bet that Namath probably has one of the higher average distance per TD pass of all of the players listed above.

Linky- scroll down to 1972

Colts dropped 44-24 decision to New York Jets as QBs-Joe Namath (15-28-496, 6 TDs/1 int.)and John Unitas (26-45-376, 2 TDs) combined for 872 yards passing and eight touchdowns. Four players had 100+ receiving games (Jets: TE-Rich Caster 6-204, 3 TDs; WR-Eddie Bell 7-197, 1 TD; Colts: TE-Tom Mitchell 8-114; WR-Sam Havrilak 4-115, 1 TD), while Jets RB-John Riggins was 21-87 rushing and 1-67t receiving for 154 yards/scrimmage. Colts RB-Don McCauley had 93t KOR as game had total of six 40+-yard touchdown plays.

Just an example: 15-28-496 and 6 TDs. Back to back TD tosses of 60+yds to TE Caster and 1 of 67 yds to Riggins,I caught this game from the best seat in my living room- my dads easy chair!- thanks to the dozen stitches in my face from a helmetless football "incident" earlier in the day. (two of us tackled high- the reciever went low... )



Namath was e-lectrifying.

edited to add that I hope that was intelligable...several sheets to the wind here.

 

[Wheelhouse]

Back to the trivia...

Joe said in his autobiography he only drinks on two occasions. What two occasions are they?

Before and after a game?

 

[Ghost Rider]

In fairness to the old timers, most of them would have much higher passer ratings in today's game. Think Johnny U would only be at 78.2 in this era? Me neither.

Thank you. The "QB rating" statistic is biased towards a high completion % and a low interception %. Back in the day, passing was not used as a "ball control" option. Pass routes were deeper and targeted to speedy WR's, very few pass routes were hitches, flat passes and dump-offs to the RB, and TE's and RB's were just not used in the passing game as they are today.

I have absolutely no empirical evidence to back this up, but I would bet that Namath probably has one of the higher average distance per TD pass of all of the players listed above.

Linky- scroll down to 1972

Colts dropped 44-24 decision to New York Jets as QBs-Joe Namath (15-28-496, 6 TDs/1 int.)and John Unitas (26-45-376, 2 TDs) combined for 872 yards passing and eight touchdowns. Four players had 100+ receiving games (Jets: TE-Rich Caster 6-204, 3 TDs; WR-Eddie Bell 7-197, 1 TD; Colts: TE-Tom Mitchell 8-114; WR-Sam Havrilak 4-115, 1 TD), while Jets RB-John Riggins was 21-87 rushing and 1-67t receiving for 154 yards/scrimmage. Colts RB-Don McCauley had 93t KOR as game had total of six 40+-yard touchdown plays.

Just an example: 15-28-496 and 6 TDs. Back to back TD tosses of 60+yds to TE Caster and 1 of 67 yds to Riggins,I caught this game from the best seat in my living room- my dads easy chair!- thanks to the dozen stitches in my face from a helmetless football "incident" earlier in the day. (two of us tackled high- the reciever went low... )



Namath was e-lectrifying.

edited to add that I hope that was intelligable...several sheets to the wind here.

Joe Namath wants to kiss you.

 

[glock]

In fairness to the old timers, most of them would have much higher passer ratings in today's game. Think Johnny U would only be at 78.2 in this era? Me neither.

Thank you. The "QB rating" statistic is biased towards a high completion % and a low interception %. Back in the day, passing was not used as a "ball control" option. Pass routes were deeper and targeted to speedy WR's, very few pass routes were hitches, flat passes and dump-offs to the RB, and TE's and RB's were just not used in the passing game as they are today.

I have absolutely no empirical evidence to back this up, but I would bet that Namath probably has one of the higher average distance per TD pass of all of the players listed above.

Linky- scroll down to 1972

Colts dropped 44-24 decision to New York Jets as QBs-Joe Namath (15-28-496, 6 TDs/1 int.)and John Unitas (26-45-376, 2 TDs) combined for 872 yards passing and eight touchdowns. Four players had 100+ receiving games (Jets: TE-Rich Caster 6-204, 3 TDs; WR-Eddie Bell 7-197, 1 TD; Colts: TE-Tom Mitchell 8-114; WR-Sam Havrilak 4-115, 1 TD), while Jets RB-John Riggins was 21-87 rushing and 1-67t receiving for 154 yards/scrimmage. Colts RB-Don McCauley had 93t KOR as game had total of six 40+-yard touchdown plays.

Just an example: 15-28-496 and 6 TDs. Back to back TD tosses of 60+yds to TE Caster and 1 of 67 yds to Riggins,I caught this game from the best seat in my living room- my dads easy chair!- thanks to the dozen stitches in my face from a helmetless football "incident" earlier in the day. (two of us tackled high- the reciever went low... )



Namath was e-lectrifying.

edited to add that I hope that was intelligable...several sheets to the wind here.

Joe Namath wants to kiss you.

Well, I'd certainly hold his hand...:shake:

 

[glock]

In fairness to the old timers, most of them would have much higher passer ratings in today's game. Think Johnny U would only be at 78.2 in this era? Me neither.

Thank you. The "QB rating" statistic is biased towards a high completion % and a low interception %. Back in the day, passing was not used as a "ball control" option. Pass routes were deeper and targeted to speedy WR's, very few pass routes were hitches, flat passes and dump-offs to the RB, and TE's and RB's were just not used in the passing game as they are today.

I have absolutely no empirical evidence to back this up, but I would bet that Namath probably has one of the higher average distance per TD pass of all of the players listed above.

Linky- scroll down to 1972

Colts dropped 44-24 decision to New York Jets as QBs-Joe Namath (15-28-496, 6 TDs/1 int.)and John Unitas (26-45-376, 2 TDs) combined for 872 yards passing and eight touchdowns. Four players had 100+ receiving games (Jets: TE-Rich Caster 6-204, 3 TDs; WR-Eddie Bell 7-197, 1 TD; Colts: TE-Tom Mitchell 8-114; WR-Sam Havrilak 4-115, 1 TD), while Jets RB-John Riggins was 21-87 rushing and 1-67t receiving for 154 yards/scrimmage. Colts RB-Don McCauley had 93t KOR as game had total of six 40+-yard touchdown plays.

Just an example: 15-28-496 and 6 TDs. Back to back TD tosses of 60+yds to TE Caster and 1 of 67 yds to Riggins,I caught this game from the best seat in my living room- my dads easy chair!- thanks to the dozen stitches in my face from a helmetless football "incident" earlier in the day. (two of us tackled high- the reciever went low... )



Namath was e-lectrifying.

edited to add that I hope that was intelligable...several sheets to the wind here.

Joe Namath wants to kiss you.

Well, I'd certainly hold his hand...:shake:

 

[Ed Wood]

Back to the trivia...

Joe said in his autobiography he only drinks on two occasions. What two occasions are they?

Before and after a game?

That's heading in the right direction. So here it is:

Joe said in his autobiography that he drinks on only two occasions:

when he's with people and when he's alone.