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Has an african american coach ever won? (1 Viewer)

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I know this will be a controversial topic. Haters please just stay away. I think that there is a good chance (obviously) with the Colts, but also with Cincinnati and chicago that one of these three coaches will win the Super Bowl.Knowing how trendy the NFL is, we might finally see an influx of the best coaches, not just the best white coaches. I think that there are many NFL teams that regret not giving Marvin Lewis a fair shake and just giving him the token interview.Thoughts?

 
There weren't many African-American coaches until recently, and I don't believe one has been to the Super Bowl yet.

 
My feeling is that for a black coach to actually land a job, he must be so ludicrously accomplished and overqualified that it's no surprise that the teams they lead are doing disproportionately well.I'm thinking that Donnie Henderson, the Jets' D coordinator, is a guy who would have been a head coach by now if he were white. He was incredible as Baltimore's defensive backfield coach and I think will make an excellent head guy if/when he ever gets the chance.And it was a disgrace the way Marvin Lewis and even Romeo Crennel were made to wait until they got their chances. I have a feeling both of those guys will get the last laugh on the teams that passed them up.

 
I'd say an african american coach already has won the SB. You think Billick had anything to do with the Baltimore SB win. That was Marvin Lewis' Defense that won that one.

 
I'd say an african american coach already has won the SB. You think Billick had anything to do with the Baltimore SB win. That was Marvin Lewis' Defense that won that one.
:D Very nicely put.

 
I just talked Marvin up big time, but as a Baltimoron, I get so tired of people saying he won the Super Bowl.For starters, Marvin was there before Billick and the Ravens' D stunk. Billick is the one who laid it on the line for them and said they could keep playing like they had been and go to a lot of Pro Bowls but also continue losing, or play as a team and win games.Here's the other thing I don't get:If you argue that Baltimore's success was all due to Marvin's defensive genius and that Billick's offense never did anything, then why don't you apply the exact same standard to today's Bengals and say that all their success is due to the offensive coordinator's genius and that Marvin's defense never does anything.Because, right now, I don't think the Bengals defense is any better than the 2000 Ravens offense (which finished 16th in the NFL).

 
No African American Head Coach has led his team to the Super Bowl. Yet.to answer the initial question.Dungy has lost 2 Championship games. Who else has come close? anyone?

 
My feeling is that for a black coach to actually land a job, he must be so ludicrously accomplished and overqualified that it's no surprise that the teams they lead are doing disproportionately well.

I'm thinking that Donnie Henderson, the Jets' D coordinator, is a guy who would have been a head coach by now if he were white. He was incredible as Baltimore's defensive backfield coach and I think will make an excellent head guy if/when he ever gets the chance.

And it was a disgrace the way Marvin Lewis and even Romeo Crennel were made to wait until they got their chances. I have a feeling both of those guys will get the last laugh on the teams that passed them up.
I am all in favor of some team giving Donnie Henderson and guys like him a shot, especially if it means taking the job away from washed up retread coaches.I'm just sick of all these guys that get jobs somewhere every year thanks to the WCO friends and family plan. Why is **** Jauron still in the league? And how does Marty Morningwheg still have a job? And yes I know the Eagles made it to the Superbowl last year, but they would have done it without MM too.

 
No African American Head Coach has led his team to the Super Bowl. Yet.

to answer the initial question.

Dungy has lost 2 Championship games. Who else has come close? anyone?
Denny Green lost an NFC title game to Atlanta
 
No African American Head Coach has led his team to the Super Bowl. Yet.

to answer the initial question.

Dungy has lost 2 Championship games. Who else has come close? anyone?
Denny Green lost two NFC Championships.
 
"Black coaches have come within a game of the Super Bowl five times.Green, who now coaches the Cardinals, twice got the Vikings to the NFC Championship Game. His best chance at reaching the Super Bowl came in 1998, when the Vikings had a 15-1 record and home-field advantage for the playoffs, but they lost the conference title game in overtime to Atlanta.Dungy's Colts reached the AFC Championship Game two years ago, but lost at New England. He also got Tampa Bay to the NFC title game in 1999, but lost at St. Louis.In 1990, Shell's first full season coaching the then-Los Angeles Raiders, they reached the AFC title game but were crushed 51-3 by the first of Buffalo's four straight Super Bowl teams. "

 
Didn't realize that there was an African American coach in the NFL. Dungy wasn't born in Africa, so he can't qualify. So :shrug:

 
are you "desireous"? where's rush when we need someone to bash?

 
I know this will be a controversial topic. Haters please just stay away. I think that there is a good chance (obviously) with the Colts, but also with Cincinnati and chicago that one of these three coaches will win the Super Bowl.

Knowing how trendy the NFL is, we might finally see an influx of the best coaches, not just the best white coaches.

I think that there are many NFL teams that regret not giving Marvin Lewis a fair shake and just giving him the token interview.

Thoughts?
Marvin Lewis, Romeo and plenty of others were thought to be just defensive minded guys and not well rounded. I don't think it was a black/white thing.
 
Before recent years, when there were no black head coaches in the league, roughly 29-31 white head coaches fail to win the Super Bowl every year. :excited:

 
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This year will be the first. :thumbup:
Three black coaches were in the playoffs this year. Each lost their first playoff game. Dungy as a #1 seed, Smith as a #2 seed, Lewis as a #3 seed. Meanwhile, all four coaches who remain in the playoffs have been to a Super Bowl previously.Seems to me it has less to do with skin color and more to do with coaching ability.

 
This year will be the first.  :thumbup:
Three black coaches were in the playoffs this year. Each lost their first playoff game. Dungy as a #1 seed, Smith as a #2 seed, Lewis as a #3 seed. Meanwhile, all four coaches who remain in the playoffs have been to a Super Bowl previously.Seems to me it has less to do with skin color and more to do with coaching ability.
Ouch, I was waiting for someone to bring this up.Lovies was simply out "Foxed", Yeah!

& Dungy ain't really the Coach anyways.

 
This year will be the first. :thumbup:
Three black coaches were in the playoffs this year. Each lost their first playoff game. Dungy as a #1 seed, Smith as a #2 seed, Lewis as a #3 seed. Meanwhile, all four coaches who remain in the playoffs have been to a Super Bowl previously.Seems to me it has less to do with skin color and more to do with coaching ability.
And maybe experience? Dungy was the only one of the three with postseason experience as a head coach and Smith and Lewis have only been coaches for two or three years.
 
And maybe experience? Dungy was the only one of the three with postseason experience as a head coach and Smith and Lewis have only been coaches for two or three years.
Let's not forget that Marv also had to cope with losing his team's biggest star to a freak injury near the start of the game. That is a staggering blow that most playoff teams don't come back from no matter the age, experience, or race of the coach.
 
in posts discussing the NBA i've read theories regarding black players not respecting black head coaches as authority figures. i have a hard time believing this, but the numbers from the NBA are striking when teams switch from a black head coach to a white one. maybe it's a bigger deal in the NBA than the NFL or maybe it's just a convenient version of lies, damn lies, and statisticsimo it doesn't matter what color a teams head coach is, but some people who follow the NBA much closer than i do insist that there is something there. to me it's just too close to something i'm uncomfortable with (black coaches somehow being inferior or whatever) that i can't buy into it myself

 
Skin color doesn't matter here. Why turn everything into a racial issue? :rolleyes:
I don't want to speak for anyone, but perhaps this would be an important landmark for the black community, sort of unofficially validating coaching ability for future black head coaches?Whether it was conscious or not, I think we can all agree that it definitely took a while for several great candidates to get their shot, and once one of them wins a Super Bowl I can see how it would be meaningful to them.

I think it's a lot easier to dismiss racial issues when a person doesn't deal with it on a daily basis, so I can see why not everyone would care about this.

 
If you are white you will never have to(except in extreme circumstances) be asked if you have money to pay for a bill from a waitress, be eyeballed throughout a store. Being assumed you are a blue collar worker or a maid. This is why this is why this important for people in the US and North American black communities. I watched the Doug Williams superbowl win with extended members of my maternal family and we all cheered for Doug for these reasons alone........

 

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