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Has Fantasy Football impacted total yards and TDs (1 Viewer)

Has FF impacted RB total yards and Touchdowns?

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Ministry of Pain

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With LT on pace for possibly 35+ TDs, and with many backs having a chance year in and year out for 2,000+ total yards, has FF been a driving force in these numbers and stats? In other words, has FF enhanced the NFL and made players aware and want to be the #1 RB in the NFL?

We are in what i would call the "Superback Era". A RB that runs for 1,000 yards and 8-10 TD is very very average these days. Back 30-40 years ago, those numbers would be Pro Bowl worthy. Now it seems a RB needs to rush for 1,500+ yards, get another 400-500 receiving and make a run at 15-20+ TD to even get a mention as a premier back.

 
I say no. I'd say it's more the product of the talent of the players and more complex offenses designed to maximize the skills of said player. The NFL has also changed rules to the benefit of offenses.

I'd be surprised if players and coaches gave much thought to fantasy at all. (although there are plenty of idiots who bug them about it.)

 
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I say no. I'd say it's more the product of the talent of the players and more complex offenses designed to maximize the skills of said player. The NFL has also promoted the rules for it's offenses benefit.I'd be surprised if players and coaches gave much thought to fantasy at all. (although there are plenty of idiots who bug them about it.)
Interesting. You think LT, LJ, some of the premier backs in the league don't track their stats at all? You don't think the fan frenzy they experience is partly due to the money that fans are winning on all these TDs that LT is scoring?I'm not saying I am right, but I do think it is having an impact. FF has gotten Super Widespread in the past 10 years...during that time a lot of records have been broken over and over.
 
I could have sworn that I read somewhere a few years back that Fantasy Football statistics actually play a part of some contract negotiations - e.g. players that are fantasy studs (LT, Priest and Culpepper at the time, etc) draw a lot of fan attention, which means more people watching the games on TV, which means more revenue, etcetera. While the coaches probably don't think about it, I would bet the players themselves and the team owners do

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I say no. I'd say it's more the product of the talent of the players and more complex offenses designed to maximize the skills of said player. The NFL has also promoted the rules for it's offenses benefit.I'd be surprised if players and coaches gave much thought to fantasy at all. (although there are plenty of idiots who bug them about it.)
I agree.
 
Stats have always been important and will continue to be important for players. Fantasy has very very little to do with it IMO. Stats enable players to establish a market value vs. other players in their peer group which are used for negotiating contracts. I think players are obviously aware of fantasy football but I think the will to put up big numbers for contract purposes >>>>>>>>>>> #1 fantasy player....

From hearing LT talk he doesn't seem to even care about the stats, seems relieved that this record thing and hoopla is over with. So for some it's about pride and just being the best at what you do. I think FF is very very very far down on the list.

 
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I would think most players are cognizant of their stats, but I'd bet it's more due to their incentive laden contracts than because of us fantasy nuts. Yes, the players may love all the extra attention, but in the end the O-Coordinater has to call the plays to put the ball in their hands. If you have a super weapon like LT2, wouldn't you call their number alot? I know I would if I wanted to keep my job. Once they get the ball I imagine the huge linebacker in their face is making them run faster than the fact that they want good fantasy stats.

 
The NFL has also promoted the rules for it's offenses benefit.
Ding Ding Ding!We have a winner. The NFL has repeatedly changed rules to help the offense become a more prominent part of the game. And I am not against that, but there is no doubt in my mind that it is happening and not only enhances a team's offensive stats but directly trickles down to the stats of individual players.
 
I'd be surprised if players and coaches gave much thought to fantasy at all. (although there are plenty of idiots who bug them about it.)
Interesting. You think LT, LJ, some of the premier backs in the league don't track their stats at all? You don't think the fan frenzy they experience is partly due to the money that fans are winning on all these TDs that LT is scoring?
No. I'm not saying that. See Bangers post on this above. He says it pretty well.I'd be willing to cede that FF has an impact, but I'd say it's negligible compared to some of the other things going on.If fantasy was really a major factor, shouldn't we see a corresponding increase in QB and WR stats?
 
Pretty much what everyone else said. Players have always cared about their stats and the offensive rules have been tweaked to enchance the score.

Fantasy is an afterthought. I'm sure they don't think much about it on Sundays or the day after.

 
In reality I think being a great player on Madden means more to most of the players than they care about our hobby... ;)

 
Absolutely not. FF is not dictating how the NFL plays the game nor does it have anything to do with performance.

I would attribute the arrival of players that are bigger, better and faster to a greater emphasis being placed upon nutrition, physical education and sports specialization at a much earlier age. For example, let's look at the highschool football region of central and south Texas...Austin and San Antonio.

Around the time little Joe arrives in grade school and shows any ability to punt, pass and kick he will be directed towards a specific youth football program. Said youth program will run a scaled down version of the local high school's offense and defense. Said youth football program is not run by fathers donating their time. The youth program is ran and overseen by retired or active middle school, high school and or college coaches.

About the time that little Joe reaches middle school he is filtered to the right school. That school will run a full version of the high school's offense and defense. Little Joe will already be locked into 1-3 positions. Unless an unexpected growth spurt hits little Joe he is already pegged for his playing position(s) in high school. By this time skill position players are normally identified. The future Friday night QB knows who he is. Same for the ends and backs. Controlled physical education begins and, depending on where you are, weight lifting may or may not be introduced.

No longer so little Joe reaches high school. Coaches have known him or about him since he was 7-8. He already knows each playbook. He'll start freshman ball; might start JV and will dress varisty, if he is lucky. He will now be introduced to proper nutrition and start working with strength training. That training and guidance will last for the next 4 years.

15, 20, 25, 30 years ago this was not necessarily the case. Football always has been a serious business in this part of the world but it was never so methodical. It is a business. Even at the high school level it is a BIG business. I am pretty sure a few guys here can chime in on Southlake Carroll, which is located in the MetroPlex, or Westlake, which is in Austin. In San Antonio we have Judson and Smithson Valley. I am not saying I agree with this process but this is how it works.

This is why guys are starting to rip through records. Not FF. They are primed and focused at a much earlier age and specialization enters the picture before junior high school. And it continues once a player enters the league. Players don't work in the offseason anymore. They workout.

For example, L. Alworth worked as a model in the offseasons. Roger Staubach sold insurance. Those guys did not train and play 365. They had to earn a living January-July. Now, that is not the case. Players take care of their bodies. That is their job.

People playing the game; the game and preparing for the game have evolved tremendously since the merger.

 
Absolutely not. FF is not dictating how the NFL plays the game nor does it have anything to do with performance. I would attribute the arrival of players that are bigger, better and faster to a greater emphasis being placed upon nutrition, physical education and sports specialization at a much earlier age. For example, let's look at the highschool football region of central and south Texas...Austin and San Antonio.Around the time little Joe arrives in grade school and shows any ability to punt, pass and kick he will be directed towards a specific youth football program. Said youth program will run a scaled down version of the local high school's offense and defense. Said youth football program is not run by fathers donating their time. The youth program is ran and overseen by retired or active middle school, high school and or college coaches. About the time that little Joe reaches middle school he is filtered to the right school. That school will run a full version of the high school's offense and defense. Little Joe will already be locked into 1-3 positions. Unless an unexpected growth spurt hits little Joe he is already pegged for his playing position(s) in high school. By this time skill position players are normally identified. The future Friday night QB knows who he is. Same for the ends and backs. Controlled physical education begins and, depending on where you are, weight lifting may or may not be introduced. No longer so little Joe reaches high school. Coaches have known him or about him since he was 7-8. He already knows each playbook. He'll start freshman ball; might start JV and will dress varisty, if he is lucky. He will now be introduced to proper nutrition and start working with strength training. That training and guidance will last for the next 4 years. 15, 20, 25, 30 years ago this was not necessarily the case. Football always has been a serious business in this part of the world but it was never so methodical. It is a business. Even at the high school level it is a BIG business. I am pretty sure a few guys here can chime in on Southlake Carroll, which is located in the MetroPlex, or Westlake, which is in Austin. In San Antonio we have Judson and Smithson Valley. I am not saying I agree with this process but this is how it works. This is why guys are starting to rip through records. Not FF. They are primed and focused at a much earlier age and specialization enters the picture before junior high school. And it continues once a player enters the league. Players don't work in the offseason anymore. They workout. For example, L. Alworth worked as a model in the offseasons. Roger Staubach sold insurance. Those guys did not train and play 365. They had to earn a living January-July. Now, that is not the case. Players take care of their bodies. That is their job.People playing the game; the game and preparing for the game have evolved tremendously since the merger.
Great post.
 

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