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Has Romo moved up to #2 qb this year? (1 Viewer)

jurrassic

jurrassic

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I think everyone agrees Brady is #1 this yearm, but Romo has been great the past 1 1/2 and he finished #2 overall in alot of leagues this year, or the #2 qb at least. He has the weapons and an easier schedule this year. Manning is coming off injury, so is Harrison. Have you moved Romo ahead of Manning?

 
No.

And I might move Brees ahead of Romo right now.

Only one of those two quarterbacks has an improved receiving corps - and it's not the one from Texas.

 
Brees = 4400 passing yards

TDs are hard to predict.

38 TDs in that offense looks like an anomoly to me.

 
I like him but no way would I think of moving him above Manning or Brady, and I have Brees above him as well right now.

 
Hmm. I'd never really considered that, but that's not all that far-fetched realistically. The guy's only getting his feet wet.

I liked what Jean Jacques-Taylor from the Dallas Morning News had to say in an article from earlier today-

"Don't get so caught up in the drama – real or imagined – swirling around Romo that you lose sight of his talent level.

He can make every throw you want a quarterback to make, and he's already learned when to zip the ball into a tight spot or loft it over a defender.

He's elusive in the pocket and his creativity allows him to consistently birth big plays from chaos. Yes, he occasionally makes poor decisions, but you destroy the player if you stifle his creativity.

Romo's the real deal. And he's only going to get better.

He hasn't even played two full seasons yet, but he's 19-7 with 55 touchdowns and 32 interceptions as a starter."

Let me just add that JJT is anything but a Cowboys homer. He continually takes shots at them when he finds a window. Romo leaves no such window.

Article here-

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...or.426789e.html

 
I am thinking of keeping Romo over LJ in a 6 pts all td league. I would keep LT/Romo. I think Romo is pretty good.

 
I have seen Romo going several picks before Manning in several drafts. The knee must be hurting Manning's ADP!

As for Levin's comments on Dallas I bet Jones does something soon to beef up the receiving corps.

The one thing does scare me we got the blah, blah, blah from Dungy all last year on Marv. Will he pull same crap on Peyton?

Stay Tuned. Peyton is still my 2 and if hes still there 3rd round like he's been falling some I will take him everytime!

 
Buckeyedawgs said:
I have seen Romo going several picks before Manning in several drafts. The knee must be hurting Manning's ADP! As for Levin's comments on Dallas I bet Jones does something soon to beef up the receiving corps. The one thing does scare me we got the blah, blah, blah from Dungy all last year on Marv. Will he pull same crap on Peyton? Stay Tuned. Peyton is still my 2 and if hes still there 3rd round like he's been falling some I will take him everytime!
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There you go. I hope like blankety-blank Manning keeps dropping (I've seen him fall past Romo and even Brees recently) because of the knee. It was relatively minor surgery on a QB with the second longest active streak of consecutive starts who is absolute $$$ at QB. I'm not a QB early Guy, but in the 3rd Round Peyton's awfully hard to pass on.
 
I have been torn on the subject.

Romo has the same talent and receivers as he had last year but with one more year of experience (for him and the receivers) and a couple of added weapons in Felix and Bennett. He will also have Barber as the starter and Barber is a much better receiver than JJ. He also has the same Oline that should only be better. The offense has had another year to learn Garrett's system and Garrett has a year under his belt calling the plays. Even with all of the success you got to remember that last season was Garrett's first as an offensive coordinator.

The only possible negative that I can see is that Dallas should be far and away improved on defense so how will this affect the coctail? What will Dallas do when they have the lead? Pound the opponent into submission with the running game like Norv Turner used to do or blow them out of the water in the AKA Air Coryell Ernie Zampese style?

I would go Brady, Romo, Manning and then Brees but I can't really argue with someone taking Manning 2nd.

 
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I think the trick with the Manning/Romo/Brees group is to take the one that falls to you, don't be the first one to nab one of the bunch. If I've got an early pick, rather than take one in the 2nd round (assuming two of the three at least remain), I'd probably grab a Fitzgerald/Colston type WR and then pick the remaining QB on the way up in the 3rd.

 
I've got Romo a group with Big Ben, Palmer, Anderson and Hassy. He is not in my tier 1 of Brady, Manning and Brees. So no, he does not move up to #2 IMO.

 
bigmiiiiike said:
I think the trick with the Manning/Romo/Brees group is to take the one that falls to you, don't be the first one to nab one of the bunch. If I've got an early pick, rather than take one in the 2nd round (assuming two of the three at least remain), I'd probably grab a Fitzgerald/Colston type WR and then pick the remaining QB on the way up in the 3rd.
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I like this. And I do not see Romo stacked in with the next tier below - no way. He has too many targets, too high powered of an O, too good an arm and eye, has proven he can do it more than one year, and has Felix Jones that could get him an extra 500 yds or so minimum.
 
I sure hope people are making this type of analysis. Moving away from a Parcells regime toward a Wade Phillips regime does not bode well and I could see the wheels fall off quickly.

 
Binky The Doormat said:
bigmiiiiike said:
I think the trick with the Manning/Romo/Brees group is to take the one that falls to you, don't be the first one to nab one of the bunch. If I've got an early pick, rather than take one in the 2nd round (assuming two of the three at least remain), I'd probably grab a Fitzgerald/Colston type WR and then pick the remaining QB on the way up in the 3rd.
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I like this. And I do not see Romo stacked in with the next tier below - no way. He has too many targets, too high powered of an O, too good an arm and eye, has proven he can do it more than one year, and has Felix Jones that could get him an extra 500 yds or so minimum.
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He really only has two GREAT receiving targets, the RBs and Crayton are not going to put up huge receiving yardage.Brees has Colston, Bush, and Shockey.Manning has proven he can be great with a rookie WR as his #2, he's the safer play.I say they're all "#2", but I can see where someone would prefer Brees and Manning by enough to drop Romo to #4, but he's above the others. (although Ben has the potential to put up those stats, if the Steelers let him)
 
bigmiiiiike said:
I think the trick with the Manning/Romo/Brees group is to take the one that falls to you, don't be the first one to nab one of the bunch. If I've got an early pick, rather than take one in the 2nd round (assuming two of the three at least remain), I'd probably grab a Fitzgerald/Colston type WR and then pick the remaining QB on the way up in the 3rd.
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This is the correct answer. I don't think there is enough of a difference between the 3 to go out and get one of them. Let the draft come to you.
 
Phurfur said:
bigmiiiiike said:
I think the trick with the Manning/Romo/Brees group is to take the one that falls to you, don't be the first one to nab one of the bunch. If I've got an early pick, rather than take one in the 2nd round (assuming two of the three at least remain), I'd probably grab a Fitzgerald/Colston type WR and then pick the remaining QB on the way up in the 3rd.
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This is the correct answer. I don't think there is enough of a difference between the 3 to go out and get one of them. Let the draft come to you.
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That's the way I see it too.
 
This is stragety I am useing right now in my McFaddens draftmaster super expert preimier league just started. Last year I took Manning @ 1.3 and they all thanked me. I was the last one laughing of coarse reeling off 12 straight wins at one point.

This year at 1.7 it was hard to pass up but I passed on Brady. I wanted Barber but he went `1.6 so settled for Gore. Brady went right after me at 1.8.

Manning is already off the board too. He went 2.3. Now in 3rd round (slow draft)

Romo and Brees still on board. I went rb rb so I will probably take one of top wr's left and pass again on a QB!

FBG dudes is slowly working up to elite status like me. At least 3 of the 4 undercard leagues were won by FBG guys that pushed them up to elite status with me this year. There are 5 undercard leagues this year besides the preimier elite league.

If them FBG guys would just pick a little faster. haha

 
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Buckeyedawgs said:
This is stragety I am useing right now in my McFaddens draftmaster super expert preimier league just started. Last year I took Manning @ 1.3 and they all thanked me. I was the last one laughing of coarse reeling off 12 straight wins at one point. This year at 1.7 it was hard to pass up but I passed on Brady. I wanted Barber but he went `1.6 so settled for Gore. Brady went right after me at 1.8. Manning is already off the board too. He went 2.3. Now in 3rd round (slow draft) Romo and Brees still on board. I went rb rb so I will probably take one of top wr's left and pass again on a QB!FBG dudes is slowly working up to elite status like me. At least 3 of the 4 undercard leagues were won by FBG guys that pushed them up to elite status with me this year. There are 5 undercard leagues this year besides the preimier elite league.If them FBG guys would just pick a little faster. haha
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:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: Romo's gone btw.....
 
BroncoFreak_2K3 said:
Buckeyedawgs said:
This is stragety I am useing right now in my McFaddens draftmaster super expert preimier league just started. Last year I took Manning @ 1.3 and they all thanked me. I was the last one laughing of coarse reeling off 12 straight wins at one point. This year at 1.7 it was hard to pass up but I passed on Brady. I wanted Barber but he went `1.6 so settled for Gore. Brady went right after me at 1.8. Manning is already off the board too. He went 2.3. Now in 3rd round (slow draft) Romo and Brees still on board. I went rb rb so I will probably take one of top wr's left and pass again on a QB!FBG dudes is slowly working up to elite status like me. At least 3 of the 4 undercard leagues were won by FBG guys that pushed them up to elite status with me this year. There are 5 undercard leagues this year besides the preimier elite league.If them FBG guys would just pick a little faster. haha
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:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: Romo's gone btw.....
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leaves me Brees, Holt or S.Smith. HUMMMMM No more blabing here. lol
 
Buckeyedawgs said:
BroncoFreak_2K3 said:
Buckeyedawgs said:
This is stragety I am useing right now in my McFaddens draftmaster super expert preimier league just started. Last year I took Manning @ 1.3 and they all thanked me. I was the last one laughing of coarse reeling off 12 straight wins at one point. This year at 1.7 it was hard to pass up but I passed on Brady. I wanted Barber but he went `1.6 so settled for Gore. Brady went right after me at 1.8. Manning is already off the board too. He went 2.3. Now in 3rd round (slow draft) Romo and Brees still on board. I went rb rb so I will probably take one of top wr's left and pass again on a QB!FBG dudes is slowly working up to elite status like me. At least 3 of the 4 undercard leagues were won by FBG guys that pushed them up to elite status with me this year. There are 5 undercard leagues this year besides the preimier elite league.If them FBG guys would just pick a little faster. haha
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:hophead: :hophead: :hophead: :hophead: Romo's gone btw.....
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leaves me Brees, Holt or S.Smith. HUMMMMM No more blabing here. lol
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Nope, no Brees, No Smith, both go ahead of you.......HUMMMMMM who will it be???? :popcorn: :hophead:
 
I understand your logic. In performance scoring leagues Romo has been a monster with long strikes. However, I still have Brees ahead of him. Brees has 600+ Atts and 4200+ yds, imo that pretty much makes him a safer pick and when you consider that both they are dropping in the 2nd and early third latest I want the player with the higher floor.

 
After Brady and Manning... its a toss up between Brees and Romo. After those 4, the next pack is far away in terms of rating

 
KellysHeroes said:
After Brady and Manning... its a toss up between Brees and Romo. After those 4, the next pack is far away in terms of rating
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agreed. in mocks ive been doing Brady's going mid 1st and Manning end of first to early second. Romo usually goes mid/late 2nd and brees soon after. when i want to mock QB early,i've been targeting Romo/Brees when i have an early 1st round pick. in one such mock , picking #1 in a 10 teamer, i got LT, Romo, and S.Smith with my 1st 3 picks. i'm liking how my teams come out trying to go elite RB/WR/QB with my 1st 3 picks in 10 teamers. there is plenty of RB value later in 10 teamers, i.e. T.Jones, FWP, K.Smith.back to Romo being #2. i'm not so sure about that. and i'm a fan. you cant ignore Peyton's consistency yr in and yr out. Romo is a great talent on the rise, but taking him over Manning is kinda like taking ADP over LT. you shouldnt do it, imo. Romo/Brees is a toss-up. Brees will throw more, but i think the Cowboys will put up bigger scores. but that said, who knows who the #1 QB will be this yr. i wouldn't be surprised if it's any of the top 4.
 
If Romo give us another 30+ TD season... then I'll be :goodposting:

Right now, in all the leagues I've done, I do not have Romo... I have Brady, Manning, & Brees... but I just can't pull the trigger on Romo in the 1st 3 or early 4th. Not yet.

 
Now that I have used this thread to bluff out the competition to take all the so called big 4 before my 3.7 pick I might make this note. Big Ben and Delhomme for the few weeks he played had a better ppg then Brees and Peyton. D, Anderson, Garrold, Hasselbeck, Favre, even Rodgers the small time he played, Warner, McCnabb, Palmer were all there close.

Just another reason to hold out on QB's this year. As far as PPG your not loseing much ground on your competition if you don't grab the big 4 early as this thread makes it sound you should.

Here is the APG in most normal qb scoreing leaugues last year.

1. Brady 28.4 No way will he duplicate this again.

2. Romo 22.6 Clearly second best last year! I don;t see him falling much, if at all.

3.Delhomme 21.2 Not much to go by here but the dude has a lot more weapons this year to work with. If he can stay healthy he is capable of a top ten year. He's done it before.

4.Peyton 20.8 Loss of Marv hurt him but still consistant as they come.

5. Brees and Big Ben 20.6 Just like Delhomme lots more weapons to work with this year.

7. D. Anderson 19.6 I am not sold on him yet and I am a Brownnie. His receivers make him look better then he is. I am begging for Quinn still!

8.Hasselbeck 19.3 Solid top 10 every year.

8b Favre 19.3 Stay Tuned! (Rodgers got this in a half against Dallas)

10. Warner 19.2 Pretty nice APG for being part timer first half of year!

11. McNabb 18.5 I expect this to improve a lot this year!

12. Garrold 18.4 He could be about ready to hit the top 10?

13. Palmer 18.3 Will he bounce back from a down year?

12 qb;s within a point and a half from Peyton last year.

After Palmer you see a significent drop off to Cutler, Eli, Campbell and Rivers. All which could bloom at any time.

I am not afraid to hold out on qb;s. Never have been and never will be and this explains why!

 
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