Has there ever been a QB like Vince Young before? (1 Viewer)

[cstu]

No, all the rest could read.

 

[oukurt]

I think people forget the massive running lanes and the ample amount of time the UT O line provided for Young this season. Did VY have a great year? Yep

But what people also forget is that the Big 12 had a down year. The defenses he faced each week were average at best. That includes USC.

The season before VY struggled mightily at times against good defenses.

He has NFL bust written all over him at the QB position. He doesn't have the passing skills to succeed. The speed of the NFL defenses will be too much.

I would like to see VY succeed in the pros as I found him a breath of fresh air. Even as a UT hater, I appreciated his college talent. But college talent does not always carry over to the pros.

I call BUST.

 

[Sea Bass]

I saw him toy with a talented Ohio State defense. AJ Hawk and the boys kept constant pressure on him, but he delivered with one big play after another.

 

[matuski]

OK OK so he isn't THE lowest wonderlic ever.... just one of them.

 

[Texasmouth]

This is a bunch of BS. This is a rumor that no one else, no other reporter, no other site, no legitimate news agency has confirmed. There is no way he scored a 6, this was put out to bring people to their craptastic site.

More on the wonderlic http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr...4/Wonderlic.htm

The score is the total number of correct answers. The average score in the United States is 22, and a score of 10, according to Charlie Wonderlic Jr., president of Wonderlic Inc., is the lowest score at which a person can be considered literate.

 

[BigTex]

This is a bunch of BS. This is a rumor that no one else, no other reporter, no other site, no legitimate news agency has confirmed. There is no way he scored a 6, this was put out to bring people to their craptastic site.

More on the wonderlic http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr...4/Wonderlic.htm

The score is the total number of correct answers. The average score in the United States is 22, and a score of 10, according to Charlie Wonderlic Jr., president of Wonderlic Inc., is the lowest score at which a person can be considered literate.

Sorry Texasmouth, but others are talking about it.Here it is. The Tennessee newspaper article:

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...602260387/1027

 

[Texasmouth]

This is a bunch of BS. This is a rumor that no one else, no other reporter, no other site, no legitimate news agency has confirmed. There is no way he scored a 6, this was put out to bring people to their craptastic site.

More on the wonderlic http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr...4/Wonderlic.htm

The score is the total number of correct answers. The average score in the United States is 22, and a score of 10, according to Charlie Wonderlic Jr., president of Wonderlic Inc., is the lowest score at which a person can be considered literate.

Sorry Texasmouth, but others are talking about it.Here it is. The Tennessee newspaper article:

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...602260387/1027

No others are talking about it. It is a rumor. No one has said that it is fact. Everyone is saying the same thing.....rumor has it...or it has been rumored....not one official news source has said it was the truth. It the friggin newspaper from Tennessee has the info, wouldn't you think nfl.com or ESPN or the NFL Network would have it all over the place? I haven't seen or heard a peep of this from them? Some crap football website and a paper from Tennessee are what I am supposed to beleive? Not buying it yet. If it comes out that it is true, hey, I was wrong, but until then this is just garbage.

 

[BigTex]

This is a bunch of BS. This is a rumor that no one else, no other reporter, no other site, no legitimate news agency has confirmed. There is no way he scored a 6, this was put out to bring people to their craptastic site.

More on the wonderlic http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr...4/Wonderlic.htm

The score is the total number of correct answers. The average score in the United States is 22, and a score of 10, according to Charlie Wonderlic Jr., president of Wonderlic Inc., is the lowest score at which a person can be considered literate.

Sorry Texasmouth, but others are talking about it.Here it is. The Tennessee newspaper article:

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...602260387/1027

No others are talking about it. It is a rumor. No one has said that it is fact. Everyone is saying the same thing.....rumor has it...or it has been rumored....not one official news source has said it was the truth. It the friggin newspaper from Tennessee has the info, wouldn't you think nfl.com or ESPN or the NFL Network would have it all over the place? I haven't seen or heard a peep of this from them? Some crap football website and a paper from Tennessee are what I am supposed to beleive? Not buying it yet. If it comes out that it is true, hey, I was wrong, but until then this is just garbage.

I understand.

 

[GregR_2]

If it is true, maybe some teams will view it as a positive instead.

For example... the team wouldn't have to be concerned about concussions affecting his level of play.

 

[Traders2001]

No there has never been a QB with a 6 at the wonderlic IQ test.

 

[Traders2001]

I heard people compare Young to Vick :X

He doesn't have Vicks speed or arm strength

At least he has accuracy and decision making .It s bad news for Young if he is compared to Vick , then he will fall out of first round.

Vick is a lousy QB.

 

[Texasmouth]

No there has never been a QB with a 6 at the wonderlic IQ test.

I dont think there has ever been a QB who scored below 12, I think that was seneca Wallace. I posted this in another thread, I read that the guy who invented the test said that any score below 10 would show that a person was illiterate. The score is the total number of correct answers. The average score in the United States is 22, and a score of 10, according to Charlie Wonderlic Jr., president of Wonderlic Inc., is the lowest score at which a person can be considered literate. Only one player, former Bengals punter and Harvard graduate Pat McInally, is known to have scored a perfect 50, in 1975. Utah State WR Kevin Curtis came close a year ago when he scored a 48. This year's top score was produced by Iowa DT Jared Clauss with a 45. Two former Duke transfers, Delaware DE Shawn Johnson (42) and Georgia TE Ben Watson (41), were not far behind.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr...4/Wonderlic.htm

 

[GregR_2]

It's multiple choice. So anyone scoring below a 10 is hitting the range you would get from just guessing at the answers without even reading the questions.

 

[Shlon]

I heard people compare Young to Vick :X

He doesn't have Vicks speed or arm strength

At least he has accuracy and decision making .It s bad news for Young if he is compared to Vick , then he will fall out of first round.

Vick is a lousy QB.

Yup, a lousy QB that went to the probowl every year he was majority starter (3 times). And it's usually the players & coaches voting him in as he doesn't win the fan balloting.

 

[McBokonon]

No there has never been a QB with a 6 at the wonderlic IQ test.

I dont think there has ever been a QB who scored below 12, I think that was seneca Wallace. I posted this in another thread, I read that the guy who invented the test said that any score below 10 would show that a person was illiterate. The score is the total number of correct answers. The average score in the United States is 22, and a score of 10, according to Charlie Wonderlic Jr., president of Wonderlic Inc., is the lowest score at which a person can be considered literate. Only one player, former Bengals punter and Harvard graduate Pat McInally, is known to have scored a perfect 50, in 1975. Utah State WR Kevin Curtis came close a year ago when he scored a 48. This year's top score was produced by Iowa DT Jared Clauss with a 45. Two former Duke transfers, Delaware DE Shawn Johnson (42) and Georgia TE Ben Watson (41), were not far behind.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr...4/Wonderlic.htm

Your blind homerism and manlove are pretty impressive. I've seen it before, but you could teach a class on it.

 

[Futility]

This is a bunch of BS. This is a rumor that no one else, no other reporter, no other site, no legitimate news agency has confirmed. There is no way he scored a 6, this was put out to bring people to their craptastic site.

More on the wonderlic http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr...4/Wonderlic.htm

The score is the total number of correct answers. The average score in the United States is 22, and a score of 10, according to Charlie Wonderlic Jr., president of Wonderlic Inc., is the lowest score at which a person can be considered literate.

Sorry Texasmouth, but others are talking about it.Here it is. The Tennessee newspaper article:

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...602260387/1027

No others are talking about it. It is a rumor. No one has said that it is fact. Everyone is saying the same thing.....rumor has it...or it has been rumored....not one official news source has said it was the truth. It the friggin newspaper from Tennessee has the info, wouldn't you think nfl.com or ESPN or the NFL Network would have it all over the place? I haven't seen or heard a peep of this from them? Some crap football website and a paper from Tennessee are what I am supposed to beleive? Not buying it yet. If it comes out that it is true, hey, I was wrong, but until then this is just garbage.

This isn't a reply to this particular post, but I think I speak for everyone else in Texas when I say please stop posting. Seriously.

 

[aposulli]

No there has never been a QB with a 6 at the wonderlic IQ test.

Actually......http://www.macmirabile.com/Wonderlic/Wonderlic.htm

Some of the guys with awful Wonderlic scores have had good careers...Marino among them!!

But yeah.... Just look at the guys who are 12 or lower.....

 

[fatness]

Sorry Texasmouth, but others are talking about it.

Here it is. The Tennessee newspaper article:

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...602260387/1027

You're right. Other sources have been posted as well. And "rumored" (or "leaked") Wonderlic scores for at least 4 other players have been posted on other sites as well, and posted here but nobody challenges those. The interesting thing about the Tennessean article you cited is that players can take the Wonderlic test multiple times.

Players are allowed to take the test multiple times, so Young could take the test again. Word is USC quarterback Matt Leinart scored a 35 on the test, while the results for Vanderbilt QB Jay Cutler were unknown. Cutler scored in the upper-20s on the test before the NFL Combine.

You'd think players would prepare by taking the tests privately enough times that they become as proficient as possible on them. I bet more will next year.

 

[GRIDIRON ASSASSIN]

After seeing his Wonderlic test results, I think this comparison is apropos.

 

[Family Matters]

More sources:

NCAA | V. Young scores low on Wonderlic testSun, 26 Feb 2006 14:11:01 -0800Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports there was word around the NFL Combine that Texas QB Vince Young scored a six on his Wonderlic test and scored another six on his second attempt at the test.

 

[matuski]

More sources:

NCAA | V. Young scores low on Wonderlic test

Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:11:01 -0800

Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports there was word around the NFL Combine that Texas QB Vince Young scored a six on his Wonderlic test and scored another six on his second attempt at the test.

Take it like a man Texasmouth!

 

[radballs.]

More sources:

NCAA | V. Young scores low on Wonderlic test

Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:11:01 -0800

Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports there was word around the NFL Combine that Texas QB Vince Young scored a six on his Wonderlic test and scored another six on his second attempt at the test.

He's consistent.

 

[matuski]

More sources:

NCAA | V. Young scores low on Wonderlic test

Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:11:01 -0800

Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports there was word around the NFL Combine that Texas QB Vince Young scored a six on his Wonderlic test and scored another six on his second attempt at the test.

He's consistent.

If he scores a 6 the 3rd time does that prove he is the antichrist?

 

[faulkfan]

Like many who will be watching Young over the years to come, I am curious to see his nanchalant throwing style against someone other than the weak Big 12 cornerbacks. I think the NFL DBs are going to make him look silly for the first year or so before he settles in.

 

[Family Matters]

Casserly says the score is wrong:

Texans | Casserly comments about Young's Wonderlic testSun, 26 Feb 2006 15:14:44 -0800Houston Texans general manager Charley Casserly said at the NFL Combine Sunday, Feb. 26, he had heard about Texas QB Vince Young's score on the Wonderlic test. He also said he heard from a good source that the test results were inaccurate. "Yes, I have been told it was inaccurate, by a source good enough for me to stand up here and quote it. Otherwise I wouldn't get up here and just say it," said Casserly. He was asked how the test would impact the Texans opinion of Young and he replied, "Well, I can only speak for the Houston Texans. I can't speak for 31 other teams. I just said how we evaluate it. It doesn't make any difference what the test score is to us. We're going to go through the same evaluation. I could point to players that have high test scores but couldn't necessarily learn football. So you go through that process, and then we'll evaluate that player's ability to learn our system at the end of it."

 

[the hairy scotsman]

This is a bunch of BS. This is a rumor that no one else, no other reporter, no other site, no legitimate news agency has confirmed. There is no way he scored a 6, this was put out to bring people to their craptastic site.

More on the wonderlic http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr...4/Wonderlic.htm

The score is the total number of correct answers. The average score in the United States is 22, and a score of 10, according to Charlie Wonderlic Jr., president of Wonderlic Inc., is the lowest score at which a person can be considered literate.

Sorry Texasmouth, but others are talking about it.Here it is. The Tennessee newspaper article:

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...602260387/1027

OK. That link takes you to a Tennessean error message. The original story has been taken down and replaced with another (watered-down?) version. Charlie Casserly has staked what's left of his reputation on a source who says the "6" report is inaccurate.

ESPN says the "6" report is inaccurate and the test may have been improperly scored.

Not one major media outlet is currently running this story. Hot potato.

Profootballweekly.com may as well be called unsubstantiatedrumormilldesignedsolelytogetsuckerstoclick.com. In a best case scenario, I'd like to think that site's an attempt at being sport's answer to the Onion, except that it sucks so hard.

Finally, one of very few media outlets actually giving this rumor any play is located right where Jay Cutler played his college ball.

It all adds up. It HAS to be true.

 

[diesel7982]

This is a bunch of BS. This is a rumor that no one else, no other reporter, no other site, no legitimate news agency has confirmed. There is no way he scored a 6, this was put out to bring people to their craptastic site.

More on the wonderlic http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDr...4/Wonderlic.htm

The score is the total number of correct answers. The average score in the United States is 22, and a score of 10, according to Charlie Wonderlic Jr., president of Wonderlic Inc., is the lowest score at which a person can be considered literate.

Sorry Texasmouth, but others are talking about it.Here it is. The Tennessee newspaper article:

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...602260387/1027

OK. That link takes you to a Tennessean error message. The original story has been taken down and replaced with another (watered-down?) version. Charlie Casserly has staked what's left of his reputation on a source who says the "6" report is inaccurate.

ESPN says the "6" report is inaccurate and the test may have been improperly scored.

Not one major media outlet is currently running this story. Hot potato.

Profootballweekly.com may as well be called unsubstantiatedrumormilldesignedsolelytogethits.com. In a best case scenario, I'd like to think it's an attempt a being sport's answer to the Onion, except that it sucks so hard.

Finally, one of very few media outlets actually giving this rumor any play is located right where Jay Cutler played his college ball.

It all adds up. It HAS to be true.

Are you meaning to bash Profootballtalk? Either way, you're post is still extremely unintelligent, but at least get the name right.

Heaven forbid PFT report what a source at the combine said Young's score was. And oh, heaven forbid ESPN and several major US newspapers carry the same story.

Yep, PFT made it up just to get traffic.

 

[the hairy scotsman]

Are you meaning to bash Profootballtalk?

Obviously. Typo. My mistake.

Either way, you're post is still extremely unintelligent

Really? How? LOL.

Heaven forbid PFT report what a source at the combine said Young's score was. And oh, heaven forbid ESPN and several major US newspapers carry the same story.

Reading comprehension could be your friend...but alas, you apparently "no comprende". ESPN radio is reporting the "6" rumor as false, with a possibility of improper scoring, and where are the "several major US newspapers" who are carrying the story?A quick Google or Yahoo search reveals at least 6 papers with articles that either dismiss the rumor outright or question it's validity, some quoting NFL spokesman Steve Alic, while only the Sacramento Bee and Nashville Tennessean show up as still running the story perpetuating the rumor. Major media outlets, to be sure.

Yep, PFT made it up just to get traffic.

Looking that way more and more.

 

[Da Guru]

I think the numbers got turned around and Young actually scored a nine on the test.

 

[mbuehner]

I think the numbers got turned around and Young actually scored a nine on the test.

Its a paradox in the testing procedure. Anyone who scored below a ten cant conclusively be proven to be smart enough to sign their name. Hence they may no have taken the test at all.

 

[Vince 6-Pack Young]

I am one of a kind. Call me 6-pack.