Haynesworth Signs With Skins (1 Viewer)

[jeter23]

Reported on Mike & Mike, they also interviewed Cerrato.

ETA: 7 years, 100 million

 

[Kowskull]

Reported on Mike & Mike, they also interviewed Cerrato.ETA: 7 years, 100 mill

Redskins GM Vinny Cerrato told an agent early Friday that Washington is no longer in the running for free agent Albert Haynesworth.SI.com's Peter King says Cerrato has deemed Haynesworth "too expensive." Instead, Washington will likely try to get Chris Canty under contract pronto.Source: SI.com

 

[Tom Servo]

Reported on Mike & Mike, they also interviewed Cerrato.ETA: 7 years, 100 mill

Redskins GM Vinny Cerrato told an agent early Friday that Washington is no longer in the running for free agent Albert Haynesworth.SI.com's Peter King says Cerrato has deemed Haynesworth "too expensive." Instead, Washington will likely try to get Chris Canty under contract pronto.Source: SI.com

Well, since Cerrato said that the presser for AH is later today, I think we can ignore that story.

 

[Kowskull]

Reported on Mike & Mike, they also interviewed Cerrato.ETA: 7 years, 100 mill

Redskins GM Vinny Cerrato told an agent early Friday that Washington is no longer in the running for free agent Albert Haynesworth.SI.com's Peter King says Cerrato has deemed Haynesworth "too expensive." Instead, Washington will likely try to get Chris Canty under contract pronto.Source: SI.com

Well, since Cerrato said that the presser for AH is later today, I think we can ignore that story.

Where does Peter King come up with this Stuff? And why does SI put up with it?

 

[southeastjerome]

Well for the skins sake I sure hope next year and years beyond are uncapped.

 

[fatness]

Albert Haynesworth hit the free agent jackpot Friday morning by reaching a seven-year, $100 million deal with the Washington Redskins that could end up maxing out at at $115 million based on his performance, according to sources.

The deal, which was reached early Friday morning, includes $41 million in guarantees. During the first 13 months of the contract, Haynesworth will earn approximately $32 million.

John Clayton at ESPN

 

[fatness]

Tennessean.com, which may be the best source in all of this.

Defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth will become a $100 million man with the Washington Redskins on Friday barring any last-minute complications, according to his agent.

Haynesworth agreed to terms on a 7-year, $100 million deal contract offer from the Redskins on Friday morning when free agency began. He is scheduled to travel to Washington, D.C. on Friday. If everything is approved with the contract and he passes a physical, a press conference should be scheduled for later in the day.

 

[Hawkeyeskin]

That's a lot of coin! Welcome to D.C. Big Al!!

 

[Bri]

(thanks for the links fatness)

Horrible news for the Titans, great for the Redskins. They got a key piece to the puzzle right there but I wouldn't plan he's got too many years left at this top level. He's reached an odd point where he's peaked but his injuries are also a concern which makes me think the short time at this high level.

LBers and DBs will want to play behind him, DL will want to benefit from the double and triple teams he'll command...they could parlay this into bringing in more players.

He's a fascinating athlete on the field, doing many things he "shouldn't" like busting thru a triple team or catching a RB or WR from behind, I hope you skins fans enjoy

 

[CentralPA]

That's is a ridiculous amount of money to give to tackle, even of Haynesworth's ability. Hope it is worth it, Redskins are lucky there is an uncapped year coming up.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

And then 6/$54m for DeAngelo Hall? Daniel Snyder is insane.

 

[QUEZILLA]

salary cap

 

[QUEZILLA]

And then 6/$54m for DeAngelo Hall? Daniel Snyder is insane.

Where do they get all this money?

 

[Bri]

And then 6/$54m for DeAngelo Hall? Daniel Snyder is insane.

Where do they get all this money?

well lots of people have beat them up for bad signings in the past or overpaying etc. When they had those players they had to fit everyone else under the cap. It's hard to keep track of when those supposed bad signings are no longer against the cap. For all we know the cap figure was just tied up bonuses and such for cut players.The Redskins and the Pats are the most difficult to follow with their cap maneuvering.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Washington aligns itself further in the "no salary cap would be OK with us" camp, alongside Dallas, Oakland and others to follow.

Meanwhile, smaller market teams like Jacksonville and Tampa are shedding salary. Coincidence? Probably mostly so, but could also be a tad relevant.

 

[Bri]

Washington aligns itself further in the "no salary cap would be OK with us" camp, alongside Dallas, Oakland and others to follow.Meanwhile, smaller market teams like Jacksonville and Tampa are shedding salary. Coincidence? Probably mostly so, but could also be a tad relevant.

not in reply to Jax or Tampa but I think some teams out there need to be forced to be sold to a better business manager owner. That would be one good thing(although not to the local fans but the league as a whole) if everyone can suddenly be like the yankees. For example the Bills would either have to get more money from Toronto or be sold just to keep pace. Last I read, the Saints were either not profitable or it was far too low and before Katrina they were rumorred to be moving. Maybe it's time then.I don't want this yankee stuff in the NFL but if it's coming I want 32 zillionaires willing to spend.

 

[CentralPA]

Even without a salary cap you've got to think with the way the economy is how can they still unload 154 million dollars on to two players. I just don't see how Snyder is making an money but he must be because wow, that's a lot of cash to be giving to one player.

 

[Tanner9919]

And then 6/$54m for DeAngelo Hall? Daniel Snyder is insane.

and Haynesworth isn't know as a durable player..thats a lot of $$ to throw at someone who's missed 22 games during his NFL career and only played a full 16-game schedule once in seven seasons

 

[Bri]

Even without a salary cap you've got to think with the way the economy is how can they still unload 154 million dollars on to two players. I just don't see how Snyder is making an money but he must be because wow, that's a lot of cash to be giving to one player.

it's not all guaranteed so (likely) in Snyder's eyes it's thought of as they'll make this much by this year, then we'll let him go. That's probably why Haynesworth got 32 somewhat upfront.I think Peyton will be the first to actually earn 80 mil from a contract in the NFL soon or he just did today. Sorry can't recall where I saw that. That means despite all the big signings and all no one has ever made that much by the time it's all said and done.IMO this is a big issue for the CBA next year, if there is one.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

I love me some Dan Snyder!

 

[GroveDiesel]

Even without a salary cap you've got to think with the way the economy is how can they still unload 154 million dollars on to two players. I just don't see how Snyder is making an money but he must be because wow, that's a lot of cash to be giving to one player.

it's not all guaranteed so (likely) in Snyder's eyes it's thought of as they'll make this much by this year, then we'll let him go. That's probably why Haynesworth got 32 somewhat upfront.I think Peyton will be the first to actually earn 80 mil from a contract in the NFL soon or he just did today. Sorry can't recall where I saw that. That means despite all the big signings and all no one has ever made that much by the time it's all said and done.IMO this is a big issue for the CBA next year, if there is one.

From Schefter:

The deal includes $41 million guaranteed in the first three years, and the maximum value of the deal could be $115 million. It is the richest contract ever given to a player and includes more guaranteed money than in any contract in NFL history

That's a LOT of guaranteed money for a 28 year old DT that has had a lot of injuries and hasn't always shown the most motivation.

 

[fatness]

And then 6/$54m for DeAngelo Hall? Daniel Snyder is insane.

Where do they get all this money?

There's talk of cutting Shawn Springs and his big contract now that Hall is signed and Haynesworth apparently will be signed soon. Springs is very, very good but he's always injured half the season and has a huge contract. With Carlos Rogers and Hall at corners and Landry and Horton at safety, that's a more-than-adequate secondary without Springs, and the increased pass rush will do nothing but help. I think they should cut Jason Taylor as well, but I don't think they will.

 

[sho nuff]

(thanks for the links fatness)Horrible news for the Titans, great for the Redskins. They got a key piece to the puzzle right there but I wouldn't plan he's got too many years left at this top level. He's reached an odd point where he's peaked but his injuries are also a concern which makes me think the short time at this high level.LBers and DBs will want to play behind him, DL will want to benefit from the double and triple teams he'll command...they could parlay this into bringing in more players. He's a fascinating athlete on the field, doing many things he "shouldn't" like busting thru a triple team or catching a RB or WR from behind, I hope you skins fans enjoy

The good news of it for TN...not many will complain that they did not pony up anything to keep him given this deal.As quick as it happened, IMO, he was gone unless the Titans had broke the bank a few weeks ago.

 

[sho nuff]

So basically with the Hall deal...thats 150 mil or so over the next 6-7 years in 2 players.

 

[Marvelous]

Washington aligns itself further in the "no salary cap would be OK with us" camp, alongside Dallas, Oakland and others to follow.Meanwhile, smaller market teams like Jacksonville and Tampa are shedding salary. Coincidence? Probably mostly so, but could also be a tad relevant.

not in reply to Jax or Tampa but I think some teams out there need to be forced to be sold to a better business manager owner. That would be one good thing(although not to the local fans but the league as a whole) if everyone can suddenly be like the yankees. For example the Bills would either have to get more money from Toronto or be sold just to keep pace. Last I read, the Saints were either not profitable or it was far too low and before Katrina they were rumorred to be moving. Maybe it's time then.I don't want this yankee stuff in the NFL but if it's coming I want 32 zillionaires willing to spend.

Offers to baseball free agents were way down this year, due mostly to teams having a lot less cash available due to the economy. We have already seen that Snyder is not affected by the bad economy, but I suspect other NFL owners will be.Also, I think the end of the salary cap will be very bad for the NFL, but who really knows. I think Snyder has shown that the ability to spend money does not equate to great football teams.

 

[prymetyme25]

Somewhere Matt Shaub is doing the banana dance.

 

[Sheriff66]

Anything that sends that type of player to the NFC is fine by me

 

[fatness]

Springs to be Released

The Redskins will save $6 million in cap space by letting him go and Springs could draw interest from New England, Dallas and Baltimore, among other teams.

 

[(HULK)]

If Haynesworth can stay healthy, the Skins will be playoff bound.

Especially if they're able to bring in Dockery on the o-line like they're trying to right now.

I've said for a couple of seasons now, all they were missing was a stud DT to soak up blockers.

 

[FavreCo]

These guys are definately gearing up to make a run at 3rd place. Idiots. They do this virtaully every year. They are the Yankees of the NFL without any success. Snyder = ZERO football knowledge.

 

[Dexter Manley]

I'm sure Peyton, Schaub, Garrad and their olinemen are all throwing parties tonight.

I'm already hearing reports of Gmen, Eagles, and Cowboys players soiling themselves upon hearing news of this signing.

 

[T Bell]

Even without a salary cap you've got to think with the way the economy is how can they still unload 154 million dollars on to two players. I just don't see how Snyder is making an money but he must be because wow, that's a lot of cash to be giving to one player.

Salary cap aside, the Redskins are always in the top two of the most valuable NFL franchises with Dallas, the Cowboys having recently pulled ahead because of their new stadium. They're among the most profitable sports franchises in the world. Both teams have a tremendous amount of cash on hand to use for signing bonuses and guaranteed money that can be used to manipulate the cap rules to defer cap hits, etc., a luxury that many teams simply don't have.

 

[Adebisi]

Sorry, Tennessee. Pretty short window you had there, but I think it may have closed on you.

 

[FUBAR]

Even without a salary cap you've got to think with the way the economy is how can they still unload 154 million dollars on to two players. I just don't see how Snyder is making an money but he must be because wow, that's a lot of cash to be giving to one player.

it's not all guaranteed so (likely) in Snyder's eyes it's thought of as they'll make this much by this year, then we'll let him go. That's probably why Haynesworth got 32 somewhat upfront.I think Peyton will be the first to actually earn 80 mil from a contract in the NFL soon or he just did today. Sorry can't recall where I saw that. That means despite all the big signings and all no one has ever made that much by the time it's all said and done.IMO this is a big issue for the CBA next year, if there is one.

From Schefter:

The deal includes $41 million guaranteed in the first three years, and the maximum value of the deal could be $115 million. It is the richest contract ever given to a player and includes more guaranteed money than in any contract in NFL history

That's a LOT of guaranteed money for a 28 year old DT that has had a lot of injuries and hasn't always shown the most motivation.

# of years of starting 16 games - ZEROHe was a huge part of the defense this year, but 8.5 sacks is his max (good for a DT), he's likely to have less than 5. He isn't scaring the QB, he is helping the D if he's on the field.Let Washington pay the $$$, Tennessee will be just fine without him and better off spending the money elsewhere.

 

[T Bell]

Even without a salary cap you've got to think with the way the economy is how can they still unload 154 million dollars on to two players. I just don't see how Snyder is making an money but he must be because wow, that's a lot of cash to be giving to one player.

it's not all guaranteed so (likely) in Snyder's eyes it's thought of as they'll make this much by this year, then we'll let him go. That's probably why Haynesworth got 32 somewhat upfront.I think Peyton will be the first to actually earn 80 mil from a contract in the NFL soon or he just did today. Sorry can't recall where I saw that. That means despite all the big signings and all no one has ever made that much by the time it's all said and done.IMO this is a big issue for the CBA next year, if there is one.

From Schefter:

The deal includes $41 million guaranteed in the first three years, and the maximum value of the deal could be $115 million. It is the richest contract ever given to a player and includes more guaranteed money than in any contract in NFL history

That's a LOT of guaranteed money for a 28 year old DT that has had a lot of injuries and hasn't always shown the most motivation.

They will likely play Haynesworth in a now-impressive DT rotation with Griffin, Montgomery, Golston and Evans (a DE who slides inside on passing downs). This will keep all of them fresh and help limit Haynesworth and Griffin's snaps especially to an optimal amount. Griffin in particular is probably no good for more than 20-25 snaps per game if you hope to keep him healthy over the course of the season, but can still be an impactful player when healthy.

 

[FUBAR]

Sorry, Tennessee. Pretty short window you had there, but I think it may have closed on you.

There's still a pleasant breeze through this window. Or did you miss the Steelers game in week 16?

 

[FUBAR]

They will likely play Haynesworth in a now-impressive DT rotation with Griffin, Montgomery, Golston and Evans (a DE who slides inside on passing downs). This will keep all of them fresh and help limit Haynesworth and Griffin's snaps especially to an optimal amount. Griffin in particular is probably no good for more than 20-25 snaps per game if you hope to keep him healthy over the course of the season, but can still be an impactful player when healthy.

Fair enough, but do you really want to pay this kind of money to a guy in a rotation?

 

[T Bell]

They will likely play Haynesworth in a now-impressive DT rotation with Griffin, Montgomery, Golston and Evans (a DE who slides inside on passing downs). This will keep all of them fresh and help limit Haynesworth and Griffin's snaps especially to an optimal amount. Griffin in particular is probably no good for more than 20-25 snaps per game if you hope to keep him healthy over the course of the season, but can still be an impactful player when healthy.

Fair enough, but do you really want to pay this kind of money to a guy in a rotation?

No, I was against this signing. Still, I think people are overestimating how many snaps a DT like Haynesworth (or Griffin) need to have in order to have an impact. It's not like a QB or something.

 

[FavreCo]

Ya know, this reminds me of my Redskins prediction.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=413479

Wonder if comfortably numb would like to update my predictions now.

Prediction 3rd for 2009 because the Eagles are heading south.

 

[fatness]

They will likely play Haynesworth in a now-impressive DT rotation with Griffin, Montgomery, Golston and Evans (a DE who slides inside on passing downs). This will keep all of them fresh and help limit Haynesworth and Griffin's snaps especially to an optimal amount. Griffin in particular is probably no good for more than 20-25 snaps per game if you hope to keep him healthy over the course of the season, but can still be an impactful player when healthy.

I don't think Demetric Evans is on the team any longer. I also think Haynesworth will play considerably more than Griffin, with Golston and Evans playing a decent amount.

 

[Bri]

He was a huge part of the defense this year, but 8.5 sacks is his max (good for a DT), he's likely to have less than 5. He isn't scaring the QB, he is helping the D if he's on the field.Let Washington pay the $$$, Tennessee will be just fine without him and better off spending the money elsewhere.

he isn't scaring the QB? wow

 

[T Bell]

They will likely play Haynesworth in a now-impressive DT rotation with Griffin, Montgomery, Golston and Evans (a DE who slides inside on passing downs). This will keep all of them fresh and help limit Haynesworth and Griffin's snaps especially to an optimal amount. Griffin in particular is probably no good for more than 20-25 snaps per game if you hope to keep him healthy over the course of the season, but can still be an impactful player when healthy.

I don't think Demetric Evans is on the team any longer. I also think Haynesworth will play considerably more than Griffin, with Golston and Evans playing a decent amount.

They won't sign Canty, so I think they'll resign Evans. That's what that is based upon.

 

[Bri]

Wonder how Gurode feels about going against him twice a year now and if anything comes of it

 

[Ice Cream Man]

Horrible news for the Titans, great for the Redskins.

Fantastic non-move for TEN. A DT can make a defense, but that's a ridiculous amount of $$. Just using half that money to give depth to the roster is going to make TEN a much better team.

 

[Bri]

They will likely play Haynesworth in a now-impressive DT rotation with Griffin, Montgomery, Golston and Evans (a DE who slides inside on passing downs). This will keep all of them fresh and help limit Haynesworth and Griffin's snaps especially to an optimal amount. Griffin in particular is probably no good for more than 20-25 snaps per game if you hope to keep him healthy over the course of the season, but can still be an impactful player when healthy.

I don't think Demetric Evans is on the team any longer. I also think Haynesworth will play considerably more than Griffin, with Golston and Evans playing a decent amount.

I thought Griffin was rumorred to be on his way out not too long ago. If not recently, then last summer? no?Both he and Haynesworth can bounce around the DL for a play here and there. If a team is going to be double and tripling Haynesworth, it's a good idea to move him around anyway.

 

[mmmWaffles]

Well, living here in Houston, any move that simultaneously hurts the Cowboys and the Titans is fine with me.

 

[T Bell]

They will likely play Haynesworth in a now-impressive DT rotation with Griffin, Montgomery, Golston and Evans (a DE who slides inside on passing downs). This will keep all of them fresh and help limit Haynesworth and Griffin's snaps especially to an optimal amount. Griffin in particular is probably no good for more than 20-25 snaps per game if you hope to keep him healthy over the course of the season, but can still be an impactful player when healthy.

I don't think Demetric Evans is on the team any longer. I also think Haynesworth will play considerably more than Griffin, with Golston and Evans playing a decent amount.

I thought Griffin was rumorred to be on his way out not too long ago. If not recently, then last summer? no?Both he and Haynesworth can bounce around the DL for a play here and there. If a team is going to be double and tripling Haynesworth, it's a good idea to move him around anyway.

They decided to keep Griffin.

 

[Bri]

Horrible news for the Titans, great for the Redskins.

Fantastic non-move for TEN. A DT can make a defense, but that's a ridiculous amount of $$. Just using half that money to give depth to the roster is going to make TEN a much better team.

we'll seeI think we saw that they funnel things thru Albert's spot(as best they can) when someone else filled in for him. In the last two seasons, I only felt like Jones did well as a fill-in and we're talking about a game or two.With Albert, I have thought their DL had great depth but what was players looking good with him getting all the attention?The gameplan is probably going to change. Albert's gone, Schwarz is gone.Is Bulluck gone?The D could be considerably different, moreso than most probably thinkAlso, do you really think they will spend half that elsewhere? I think we'd be lucky if the Titans spent 25% or 15% elsewhere. After they overpay Kerry, I'm afraid they'll just be cheap

 

[Dexter Manley]

They will likely play Haynesworth in a now-impressive DT rotation with Griffin, Montgomery, Golston and Evans (a DE who slides inside on passing downs). This will keep all of them fresh and help limit Haynesworth and Griffin's snaps especially to an optimal amount. Griffin in particular is probably no good for more than 20-25 snaps per game if you hope to keep him healthy over the course of the season, but can still be an impactful player when healthy.

I don't think Demetric Evans is on the team any longer. I also think Haynesworth will play considerably more than Griffin, with Golston and Evans playing a decent amount.

They won't sign Canty, so I think they'll resign Evans. That's what that is based upon.

Do we even have $$$ to resign Evans? After we sign a FA OL I'm not sure that we will. I know Evans wants to start, so I'm assuming he's looking for starter money. I think there's better chance we bring back Daniels on the cheap than sign Evans.

 

[Bri]

They will likely play Haynesworth in a now-impressive DT rotation with Griffin, Montgomery, Golston and Evans (a DE who slides inside on passing downs). This will keep all of them fresh and help limit Haynesworth and Griffin's snaps especially to an optimal amount. Griffin in particular is probably no good for more than 20-25 snaps per game if you hope to keep him healthy over the course of the season, but can still be an impactful player when healthy.

I don't think Demetric Evans is on the team any longer. I also think Haynesworth will play considerably more than Griffin, with Golston and Evans playing a decent amount.

I thought Griffin was rumorred to be on his way out not too long ago. If not recently, then last summer? no?Both he and Haynesworth can bounce around the DL for a play here and there. If a team is going to be double and tripling Haynesworth, it's a good idea to move him around anyway.

They decided to keep Griffin.

but I was rememberring correctly, right? See my Q is simply if that's how they felt then, now with Albert, do you think they really still need him? Is he your predicted next cut if they need $ now? is he a considerable cap hit at this point? Seems like a long time ago that he was a Giant.