Haynesworth update-no deal (1 Viewer)

[Bri]

here's an update from tennessean:

Based on the slow pace of contract negotiations with the Titans, defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth is expected to try free agency, a source familiar with the situation said Wednesday.

The Titans and Haynesworth's agent, Chad Speck, have made little progress in recent weeks toward a long-term deal. Barring a last-minute change the two-time All-Pro is expected to test the market when it opens Feb. 27. The Titans have exclusive negotiating rights with him until then.

Haynesworth is seeking a six-year deal that would make him the highest paid defensive player in the NFL. That designation currently belongs to Vikings defensive end Jared Allen, who last offseason signed a six-year contract that included $12.2 million per year and $32 million in guarantees.

The Titans and Haynesworth's camp haven't come close to approaching those numbers. According to a source, the Titans have offered a contract in the four-year, $36 million range.

Speck declined to comment about the status of negotiations, but said he plans to meet with Titans General Manager Mike Reinfeldt at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis this weekend. The Titans declined to comment.

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Is it "honorable" or quite expected or what, that the Titans are keeping their word and not franchising him in 09?

So with him possibly being a free agent soon and other teams needing to have alot of money to try and land him, does that affect this last bit of free agency before the deadline?

 

[ScottyFargo]

Is it "honorable" or quite expected or what, that the Titans are keeping their word and not franchising him in 09?So with him possibly being a free agent soon and other teams needing to have alot of money to try and land him, does that affect this last bit of free agency before the deadline?

I don't think they're not franchising him out of a sense of duty or honor, I think it was written into his contract so they can't franchise him or they're in breach. I have no clue what the penalties would be for that.

 

[sho nuff]

My biggest thing...is he really worth the $$$$?

Great player...no doubt...but the highest paid player ever? highest D player in the league? That is what he is wanting (of course, so is Peppers now supposedly).

I think he is worth a lot, but I think someone will pay too much IMO.

 

[gump]

He's going to look good in Pewter.

 

[Bri]

My biggest thing...is he really worth the $$$$?Great player...no doubt...but the highest paid player ever? highest D player in the league? That is what he is wanting (of course, so is Peppers now supposedly).I think he is worth a lot, but I think someone will pay too much IMO.

In a perfect world, no one is overpaid.In the NFL world, any DT that can be a potential MVP candidate and also has freakish athletic ability to catch Greg Jennings and Reggie Wayne from behind deserves to be overpaid. DT and great athletic ability aren't anywhere near as common as DT and "wall" are. There is and isn't a new-ness to his style of play/dominance.Some team will overpay for him, I think the Titans either have to decide to be that team or not but he's getting overpaid.Despite not becoming LT II or Reggie White II, Peppers will get overpaid too.

 

[Bri]

He's going to look good in Pewter.

Will they get back to building D and making that the focus?if his agent is smart he tells the papers he spoke with an NFC east team.With the Giants DEs, if they could get him in the middle....Jerry Jones' D needs a guy that'll put them over the topSnyder will not watch these other teams bid and be left out.Think Jim Johnson would like to have him doing what he hoped Simon would?If his agent just planted the seed, I'd bet it would snowball.

 

[encaitar]

He's going to look good in Pewter.

Will they get back to building D and making that the focus?if his agent is smart he tells the papers he spoke with an NFC east team.With the Giants DEs, if they could get him in the middle....Jerry Jones' D needs a guy that'll put them over the topSnyder will not watch these other teams bid and be left out.Think Jim Johnson would like to have him doing what he hoped Simon would?If his agent just planted the seed, I'd bet it would snowball.

I don't think his agent is going to need to plant any seeds. He is going to get a max contract no matter what. I expect him to sign the highest non-QB contract ever. Whether he deserves it or not is another question, but I can't understand how Tennessee ever let him get to the market. I know they didn't want to commit so much money to one player, especially one that didn't play up to his potential until his contract year, but there are only a few other Defensive tackles in the league that can compare to him. The Titans are gonna miss his dominance next year.

 

[No. 16]

I think he needs to call Al Davis.

 

[Ice Cream Man]

but I can't understand how Tennessee ever let him get to the market. I know they didn't want to commit so much money to one player, especially one that didn't play up to his potential until his contract year, but there are only a few other Defensive tackles in the league that can compare to him. The Titans are gonna miss his dominance next year.

Tennessee has a great team, and Haynesworth is a part of that. But you have to remember that TEN also has good depth at most positions -- particularly on the defensive line -- and are more than willing to bring those guys in than pay an outrageous amount of money for a guy who's had injury issues. They've also had bad luck with cap issues and sinking lots of money into players in the past. I think TEN is about being Borg-like -- a well-coached team with depth, and good player development -- rather than pay big $$ for studs or FA's.I think Haynesworth is dominant, to be sure, but you can buy a lot of depth for $36 million, let alone the $70 or whatever he's asking for.

 

[msommer]

I think TEN is about being Borg-like

You...Will...Be...Assimilated

 

[Bri]

I expect him to sign the highest non-QB contract ever. Whether he deserves it or not is another question, but I can't understand how Tennessee ever let him get to the market. I know they didn't want to commit so much money to one player, especially one that didn't play up to his potential until his contract year, but there are only a few other Defensive tackles in the league that can compare to him. The Titans are gonna miss his dominance next year.

I agree completely

 

[Bri]

I think Haynesworth is dominant, to be sure, but you can buy a lot of depth for $36 million, let alone the $70 or whatever he's asking for.

average depth is not hard to find, Haynesworth is a star though. There's a dramatic difference and it is not easy to find stars. See Lendale vs. Chris Johnson. CJ is the first game-breaker that Fisher can remember having at RB. How long has he coached? The D is built thru Albert. You only have to go back one season to realize the difference with and without Albert. Further, when you have the top D in football(Titans did in scoring for 16 of 17 weeks) you have an excellent chance of winning many games. When you are likely to win both trench battles, you have an excellent chance of winning. Why wreck that? They locked up both excellent offensive Tackles to deals. IIRC Their Guards are signed and taken care of. It's just whenever Mawae retires. Back to the D, the Titans O only had to score 13 or 14 points to win. How easy is that in the NFL world?The Titans have a ton of free money against the cap(I posted a link to an article on actual amount a while back) 38? 39? mil. If they have your mindset then may I suggest saying adios KVB? Kyle Vandenbosch makes a boatload of $ and played very few complete games in 2008. Consequently they had much of 2008 to get the depth ready to replace him and have a 2nd round pick from 08 that has looked good playing DT and DE. Jones wouldn't make me comfy. I'd prefer keeping KVB but if the cap is going to pinch someone out, I'd rather KVB than Albert.

 

[gump]

He's going to look good in Pewter.

Will they get back to building D and making that the focus?

I'm sure Morris will be making the DL the priority (Sims did just re-up). Whether the Glazers actually write a check that they are capable of, and one that few if any teams can match, will be the question.

 

[Ice Cream Man]

The D is built thru Albert.You only have to go back one season to realize the difference with and without Albert.

TEN handled PITT without Haynesworth so it's not like he's indispensable. The 2007 Titans were far more dependent on Haynesworth than the 2008 team. Fisher has a whole group of guys he can plug in and be effective.I would prefer the team add "average" depth at every single position for the price of one impact player that has missed 10 games the last 3 years.

 

[runner06]

Is it "honorable" or quite expected or what, that the Titans are keeping their word and not franchising him in 09?So with him possibly being a free agent soon and other teams needing to have alot of money to try and land him, does that affect this last bit of free agency before the deadline?

I don't think they're not franchising him out of a sense of duty or honor, I think it was written into his contract so they can't franchise him or they're in breach. I have no clue what the penalties would be for that.

Yeah. I heard on ESPN the reason why they can't franchise him is because there is a clause in his contract that says the Titans can't franchise him if he makes the Pro Bowl.

 

[FUBAR]

He may well be worth the money to most teams, but the Titans will be fine without him. It's possible that the team will be better off losing Haynesworth and spending the $$$ on Housh. (not that I expect them to)

 

[Bri]

He's going to look good in Pewter.

Will they get back to building D and making that the focus?

I'm sure Morris will be making the DL the priority (Sims did just re-up). Whether the Glazers actually write a check that they are capable of, and one that few if any teams can match, will be the question.

I think that's important or key for them.They're not that far from being a winner in some ways but in other ways it's like they just plugged holes and the ship could sink.

 

[Bri]

The D is built thru Albert.You only have to go back one season to realize the difference with and without Albert.

TEN handled PITT without Haynesworth so it's not like he's indispensable. The 2007 Titans were far more dependent on Haynesworth than the 2008 team. Fisher has a whole group of guys he can plug in and be effective.I would prefer the team add "average" depth at every single position for the price of one impact player that has missed 10 games the last 3 years.

Steelers OL wasn't anything to write home about in the regular season and is the focus of their offseason rebuilding last I read.