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HBO Series "Vinyl" - Coming in 2016 (1 Viewer)

Last night, was that supposed be the Velvet Underground with Lou and Nico?  I may be wrong but the show is taking place in '73, right?  Its my understanding (again, I might be wrong) that neither Lou nor Nico was still active with VU in '73.

 
Amused to Death said:
Last night, was that supposed be the Velvet Underground with Lou and Nico?  I may be wrong but the show is taking place in '73, right?  Its my understanding (again, I might be wrong) that neither Lou nor Nico was still active with VU in '73.
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It was and it is, but that was a flashback scene to when he first met/plowed his wife so it was clearly well before 1973 that that scene took place.

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
It was and it is, but that was a flashback scene to when he first met/plowed his wife so it was clearly well before 1973 that that scene took place.
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Thanks.  Thought it might have been a flashback.  I was only marginally paying attention to most of the episode but when I heard them mention Nico and saw an obvious Lou Reed I thought the time period was off.

 
I'll give it one or two more at most.

I will say this...Ray Romano is doing a great job.  Never knew he could pull off a role like this.

And Max "Vinny/Bennie" Casella was pretty hilarious in the A&R meeting. 

 
Agree with above. I've never cared for Ray Romano but he's been really good so far. And Vinny Delpino provides the much needed comic relief.

I'm not hating the show like everyone else (it seems) but kind of expected more knowing what kind of talent is behind the scenes.

 
This reminds me of Magic City (on Starz - Great lead - period driven show).  Jeffrey Dean Morgan was very good, but it took a while to get going.  Once it did get better, the ratings sucked, so they canceled it.  

 
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LAUNCH said:
This reminds me of Magic City (on Starz - Great lead - period driven show).  Jeffrey Dean Morgan was very good, but it took a while to get going.  Once it did get better, the ratings sucked, so they canceled it.  
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Pretty good comparison.   I gave up on Magic City after about 3 or 4 episodes.  I just fell flat. 

 
I thought him seeing the building start to come apart was like a vision or something.  Then it falls on him and he just stands up and walks away? 

I didn't watch episode 2 yet.  It feels a bit over the top in a bad way to me.

 
I don't hate it at all.  It's not Earth-shattering, but it's entertaining enough.  Fills the primetime void on Sundays until Thrones/Silicon Valley return.

 
I'd rather see more storytelling versus the random music segues or whatever they are.  Not sure why they did Dice like that in episode 1.  Still think the show has potential and I'm entertained, nothing else to do but watch.

 
Vinyl premiered to some of HBO's lowest ratings ever; lower than The Leftovers, True Detective and The Newsroom.

The other show it reminds me of is Treme.  I wanted to like it, but I didn't want to see an hour long jazz video where nothing interesting happened.

 
LAUNCH said:
Vinyl premiered to some of HBO's lowest ratings ever; lower than The Leftovers, True Detective and The Newsroom.

The other show it reminds me of is Treme.  I wanted to like it, but I didn't want to see an hour long jazz video where nothing interesting happened.
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Treme was much more than that.  If anything they had too many storylines going.

 
Juxtatarot said:
Does everyone agree that the Nasty Bits suck?
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No. There's something there.

The show ain't great. But it's not as bad as some are making it out to be. Agree with those who mentioned Ray Romano. And the little blonde is smokin' hot!

 
I'm a 3 hour movie lovin fool... I try, as best as I can, to respect the director and take the journey with him.  Love auteurs, love 60's and 70's cinema... much more a cinephile than a TV guy though.  And I LOVE Scorsese.  I have seen all but three of his films.

All that said, just getting through this was a chore.  This is the worst thing of his I've seen since New York, New York.  I couldn't believe he directed it.  Checked my DVR an hour in thinking we had to be winding down and there was still an hour left.  

Canavale, the sum of the parts is less than the whole.  He's got the look, he's got the chops, but... meh.  Television is fundamentally a medium where you say, I want to spend time with these people, love or hate.  But as the old saying goes, they are not opposites, and the true opposite of love is indifference.  I really just didn't care what happened to anyone after investing two hours.  

EXCEPT for the Dice man.  Who was definitely chewing scenery and I'm a fan of his but he at least brought some stakes to this show.  

And I know they're pals but using Dietl for anything more than a line or two is asking too much of what he can do.  

The other actors ranged from mediocre to terrible.  Juno Temple was ok.  But a bit of a derritivie character.  There was a scene where the A and R guy with the beard was on the phone in his office losing his mind.  Classic steadicam/spider dolly shot circling and the guy is just absolutely awful.  Really all the A and R guys in no way delivered any authetnticity nor did Romano, the lawyer and the other partner.  My god the A and R guy who was asking for favors from Juno Temple?  

Also don't like the device of mixing real and fictional acts.  But if you are, get it right.  Plant was awful.  

 
I've only watched the first episode and while long and tedious in some parts I really don't think it was as bad as some of you are typing.

Maybe expectations were too high?  I didn't even know about it until a couple of days ago, so it is a welcomed diversion until Game of Thrones comes back.

 
Pretty cool little tidbit from EP 3.   The dude that set up Alice Cooper's guillotine was James Randi.  

 
Agree with most here. Love the music scenes of the day, but the acting isn't that impressive and the story line a bit cliche. When you have to question the music/historical accuracy, that detracts from the enjoyment (something you never have to do with say, Cameron Crowe). All that said, Olivia Wilde is some nice piece.

 
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This show feels like a Rock N Roll version of Sons of Anarchy. Ray Romano is the only character I remotely care about.  Poor writing and character development.  

 
Major said:
This show feels like a Rock N Roll version of Sons of Anarchy. Ray Romano is the only character I remotely care about.  Poor writing and character development.  
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I wouldn't go that far.  But damn if it isn't uneven.  Just when it starts to get good they derail everything with something flat and/or clunky.  

 
Does anyone understand the deal/scam with pressing too many records?  Sitting on them? Tossing them in the river? 

 
McJose said:
Does anyone understand the deal/scam with pressing too many records?  Sitting on them? Tossing them in the river? 
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You can say shipped or sold that many units, building your artist and label up more.  Hey you should play Boston on the radio, they sold 2 million albums and its RIAA certified because the sales went through the store.  

I think thats the crux of it.

 
Smack Tripper said:
You can say shipped or sold that many units, building your artist and label up more.  Hey you should play Boston on the radio, they sold 2 million albums and its RIAA certified because the sales went through the store.  

I think thats the crux of it.
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They were charging the expenses of returned albums to the artist.

 
Smack Tripper said:
You can say shipped or sold that many units, building your artist and label up more.  Hey you should play Boston on the radio, they sold 2 million albums and its RIAA certified because the sales went through the store.  

I think thats the crux of it.
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They were charging the expenses of returned albums to the artist.

 
I worked for Atlantic Records for ten years (mid 80s to early 90s), so it's a different time period, but the show does bring back memories. Things were definitely dirtier in the 70s (payola, drugs, ripping off artists, etc).  This series had so much going for it when I first heard about it, but it hasn't been very good. Still watching though. I can't see this lasting beyond a      second season.

 
I would like to see this be more about the music industry. The character stuff just isn't doing it for me. Feels like they are trying to be showy instead of trusting that there's something interesting to tell us about this period. I'm OK with the main character being a trainwreck (car wreck?), but I'd like to see some of this implied genius as a forward-thinker in music.

 
Shrugs said:
I would like to see this be more about the music industry. The character stuff just isn't doing it for me. Feels like they are trying to be showy instead of trusting that there's something interesting to tell us about this period. I'm OK with the main character being a trainwreck (car wreck?), but I'd like to see some of this implied genius as a forward-thinker in music.
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Bro, you didn't hear him in previous episodes?  He felt this energy when he heard Nasty Bits.  Sign them.  Genius.  

 
I enjoyed the episode, it was pretty apparent that Ernst was a figment of his imagination during the first scene. I find it hard to like any of the characters though, which does make watching somewhat less enjoyable. The only character I root for as of now is Ray Romano, I'd like to watch the others crash and burn. Actually, I also kinda like Lester Grimes.

The teaser from next week makes it look like they sell their plane and then Richie loses the money gambling. 

 
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I keep watching and can't understand why this show sucks? Terence Winter, Scorsese, Jagger, the 70s music scene; how does a group of talent like that make a story completely in their wheelhouse so boring?

 
ericttspikes said:
I keep watching and can't understand why this show sucks? Terence Winter, Scorsese, Jagger, the 70s music scene; how does a group of talent like that make a story completely in their wheelhouse so boring?
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I don't think it sucks as much as it is repetitive. Basically 6 episodes of one guy destroying and ####### up anything close to him. I'm enjoying, but I think it has potential to be better.

 
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I think someone said it before in here but Finestra is impossible to care about/root for (same goes for his wife...although it was nice to see her wooly bits).

While Romano's character is interesting and sympathetic.

 
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