Maik Jeaunz
Footballguy
so, for the sake of discussion, who would have the most legitimate claim to the throne? Gendry?
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HBO - Song of Ice&Fire Series -Varsity Thread - no TV only whiners (2 Viewers)
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I believe Stannis is next in line after Robert by the traditions or laws or whatever.
Mjolnirs
Footballguy
Stannis.Gendry isn't a "true born" son.
Probably, but he'd have a hard time proving it. Ned dead, mother dead, Robert dead, Jon Arryn dead.Edit. Ned thought Stannis had claim even knowing about the bastards.
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Instinctive
Footballguy
I thought Danaeryus had the most legit claim?
sn0mm1s
Footballguy
By Westeros law/tradition it would be Stannis. Daenerys' family has been deposed. Gendry, by law, wouldn't have much of a claim at all.
Rick James
Footballguy
Unless he was legitimized. Although I don't know who would want to do that.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
If you're a Targaryen supporter this is true. If a Baratheon supporter, it's Stannis. Given what we currently know from the show of course.Then again, legitimacy seems to really boil down to who can kick the most ###.
SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
HODOR!!!!!!!
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Stannis has the legit claim. Before the targaryans ruled, all the regions were seperate kingdoms.
The Targs came and conquered with their dragons and united the realm. Their house ruled for 100s of years and put down several rebellions. Robert's rebellion was successful in deposing that particular Targaryan family. Technically, however, Robert Baratheon's line also had Targaryan blood through his grandmother, so his claim was legitimized after the rebellion.
The Targs came and conquered with their dragons and united the realm. Their house ruled for 100s of years and put down several rebellions. Robert's rebellion was successful in deposing that particular Targaryan family. Technically, however, Robert Baratheon's line also had Targaryan blood through his grandmother, so his claim was legitimized after the rebellion.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I disagree. Hodor.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
It will be interesting to see how the show handles The House of the Undying next week
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I wonder if they get right to it next week - I think they have to lay a little more ground work first. They might even be able to stretch it out to the end of the season.
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Kraft...
Footballguy
I was thinking the same thing, they will probably draw it out
jestertj
Footballguy
Five down and five to go.
Maik Jeaunz
Footballguy
I watched the episode again at lunch today, and noticed a couple little things I didn't notice the first time (because I was drunk and/or tired).
like, when Ser Rodrick(?) comes in to tell Bran that the other town is under attack, and Bran tells him to take the men to defend it, there's some creepy guy milling around in the shadows kind of listening in. I figure they wouldn't show that if it wasn't important. maybe a Greyjoy plant?
and also how bad*ss Ghost looks while standing on the hill watching the night watch guys set up camp in the snow. he looks huge!
like, when Ser Rodrick(?) comes in to tell Bran that the other town is under attack, and Bran tells him to take the men to defend it, there's some creepy guy milling around in the shadows kind of listening in. I figure they wouldn't show that if it wasn't important. maybe a Greyjoy plant?
and also how bad*ss Ghost looks while standing on the hill watching the night watch guys set up camp in the snow. he looks huge!
SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
I noticed that, too! No idea who that was.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
I have this for the iPhone...what's the enhanced viewing?
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Stannis. However, as has been pointed out multiple times by multiple characters, the person that can hold the throne is the the king. Legitimacy means nothing.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Yes, you just need some of his account info...assuming his cable provider offers HBOGo.
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=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Qarth was added
belljr
Footballguy
if he's wiling to give you his email and password
The Gator
Footballguy
There was a new piece added between Winterfell and The Wall
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
harrenhal and the pyke in the iron islands
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
What about a Laptop?
The Gator
Footballguy
belljr
Footballguy
Yes the enhanced viewing is there. Unless they got rid of it altogether.
=Smackdown=
Footballguy
Not sure what you're getting at - I rewatched it last night.Was it an army headed to Winterfell from the East or just a bunch of tress?
The Gator
Footballguy
This one goes straight from Winterfell to The wallNot sure what you're getting at - I rewatched it last night.
Was it an army headed to Winterfell from the East or just a bunch of tress?
This one has a scene showing a Stag With an arrow pointing at it
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Didn't her father kill her dog at the request of the king, or was that Sansa's dog?
Brady Marino
Footballguy
That's right. Sansa flipped out over that. Arya's direwolf has to return at some point, you think? They've given a lot of emphasis on the Stark direwolves to this point, so it'd be kinda stupid for them to just abandon one out of forgetfulness.'Matthias said:
Guinis72
Footballguy
Ya, I agree. I guess it'd be tough for her to be as low-profile as she's being right now with a big direwolf following her around. I have a feeling he hasn't wandered too far away from her though.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
So, bye bye doggie?'Matthias said:
Gr00vus
Footballguy
That's just that weird machine/sun thing the interject throughout.The places on the map they actually show in that one are: King's Landing, Harrenhal, Pyke, Winterfell, Wall, Qarth.
Rick James
Footballguy
Martin has not forgotten about Nymeria.Don't click on this if you're not completely done with Dance with Dragons:'Matthias said:So, bye bye doggie?'Matthias said:
Don't you recall the stories of this great She-Wolf leading a giant pack of other wolves terrorizing the country side? I vividly remember the imagery of some wolf in the pack, maybe it was even Nymeria I don't recall, ripping a baby from the breast of its mother and
killing it. Plus Arya had herself a "wolf dream" where she as Nymeria dragged her mother's corpse out of the river.
We haven't seen the last of Nymeria, especially with Arya's story line unfolding the way it is. Seems like Arya and Nymeria are both becoming badass killers, hopefully they team up down the road.
killing it. Plus Arya had herself a "wolf dream" where she as Nymeria dragged her mother's corpse out of the river.
We haven't seen the last of Nymeria, especially with Arya's story line unfolding the way it is. Seems like Arya and Nymeria are both becoming badass killers, hopefully they team up down the road.
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
'The Gator said:This one goes straight from Winterfell to The wallNot sure what you're getting at - I rewatched it last night.
Was it an army headed to Winterfell from the East or just a bunch of tress?
This one has a scene showing a Stag With an arrow pointing at it
boots11234
Footballguy
Is it just me or is this show hard to follow? I'm totally lost and basically watch in hopes of seeing the blond dragon lady nakked again.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
It can be a little convoluted, especially for non-book readers. But there are a ton of resources on the web that can help without spoiling anything. Check out EW.com's episode recaps (every ep recap is available and you can probably read all 15 or so in half an hour) - Hibberd does a great job of telling you what you're supposed to know at this point in whatever recap you're reading. HBO itself has some pretty neat, non-spoiler stuff too - who belongs to what house, who's on whose side, who's related to who, maps, etc... Both Westeros.org & towerofthehand.com have spoiler-free zones but be careful where you go on those sites.I don't think you need to know every piece of minutia to enjoy the show. When I first read the books, I gave up trying to keep everyone straight even with the appendix and just went along for the ride. Hell - after several rereads, I still can't keep all those damned Florents straight.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
'Rick James said:Martin has not forgotten about Nymeria.Don't click on this if you're not completely done with Dance with Dragons:'Matthias said:'Brady Marino said:So, bye bye doggie?'Matthias said:
Don't you recall the stories of this great She-Wolf leading a giant pack of other wolves terrorizing the country side? I vividly remember the imagery of some wolf in the pack, maybe it was even Nymeria I don't recall, ripping a baby from the breast of its mother and
killing it. Plus Arya had herself a "wolf dream" where she as Nymeria dragged her mother's corpse out of the river.
We haven't seen the last of Nymeria, especially with Arya's story line unfolding the way it is. Seems like Arya and Nymeria are both becoming badass killers, hopefully they team up down the road.
"I vividly remember the imagery of some wolf in the pack, maybe it was even Nymeria I don't recall, ripping a baby from the breast of its mother and
killing it."
Um, what the #### is the author's obsession with baby killing?
killing it."
Um, what the #### is the author's obsession with baby killing?
shadyridr
Footballguy
I can usually follow around 90% of it and then I usually read wikipedia or ask here about the 10% I couldnt follow.
Brady Marino
Footballguy
I watched all of the episodes once and I found I was in the same boat, so I'm going back and watching from the beginning again to see if I can fill in some blanks. Plus, it just gives me another excuse to watch again!
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Haven't read one word from the books yet, but watching every episode more than once really helps.I watched all of the episodes once and I found I was in the same boat, so I'm going back and watching from the beginning again to see if I can fill in some blanks. Plus, it just gives me another excuse to watch again!
Kraft...
Footballguy
No, but I hear my brother occasionally watches while in his cups
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