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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Robert and Eddard where "voluntary" wards. The difference with Theon is that he was taken as a hostage basically, and many families might have mistreated him because of that. The Starks treated him like they would any other ward though, rather than treating him poorly because of the situation.'Matthias said:
When Margery dropped her robe, I definitely started a pole.to the casting director who found so many talented actresses to disrobe for the sake of story. I think a pole is in order.
Daenerys is still leading imo.When Margery dropped her robe, I definitely started a pole.
Very pretty girl, but her body was just ok last season. I get that she was supposed to be pregnant at the end, but even at the beginning, i wasn't impressed.IMO, the best looking girl on the show is the slave girl that the Targaryens bought. (the one that had the tub scene with Viserys)Daenerys is still leading imo.When Margery dropped her robe, I definitely started a pole.
Daenerys was my favorite last season, but Margery has the lead now. Stunning.Daenerys is still leading imo.When Margery dropped her robe, I definitely started a pole.
I'm sure they treated him better than the Greyjoys would have treated a Stark hostage, but there's a few scenes in season one where Robb or Maester whatshisface have to put him in his place and remind him that he is still a prisoner.
very minor/vague future seasons/books spoiler re: Theon:'JerseyToughGuys said:
I'm sorry, but the how the hell did you not understand this sequence?
"Why can't Tyrion make up his mind? First he says he's going to marry the girl to one guy then another and then another? Is he insane or just forgetful?"What the hell is he doing at 1:55?
So he'll be able to reprise his role when they take A Song of Ice and Fire to Broadway. Nice.
I heard this happened when Bronn went beyond the wall.'Gr00vus said:
Did you two read the rest of my comments on that, or just rush to judgement after reading 1 sentence?'Marvin said:'the moops said:
yeah I think I just missed the beginning of the episode FF to far.'Marvin said:You didn't what happened after?
Oh. Snow is dead.yeah I think I just missed the beginning of the episode FF to far.'Marvin said:
No. I rushed to judgment. Much funnier that way.Did you two read the rest of my comments on that, or just rush to judgement after reading 1 sentence?'Marvin said:'the moops said:
I don't think the episode ever really clarified whether all three stories were lies, or just the two he told Varys and Littlefinger.'Marvin said:'the moops said:
Thats why I asked...knowing a reader (Swing) would prob clarify....and to get some laughs from Marv and Moops.I don't think the episode ever really clarified whether all three stories were lies, or just the two he told Varys and Littlefinger.'Marvin said:'the moops said:
I don't recall if the book ever said what Tyrion told Varys and Finger.While the end result with Pycelle was the same in book and TV with him going to the black cells (in the book version Pycelle also pissed the bed when Tyrion and Shagga enter) how it played out was quite different if I remember right. Pycelle finds out about the betrothal thru a letter Tyrion wrote and Pycelle was supposed to send somewhere (Dorne?). Then Cersai confronts Tyrion and Tyrion realizes Pycelle is the rat.Thats why I asked...knowing a reader (Swing) would prob clarify....and to get some laughs from Marv and Moops.I don't think the episode ever really clarified whether all three stories were lies, or just the two he told Varys and Littlefinger.'Marvin said:'the moops said:
....out
To put it another way, the episode clearly illustrated that they were lies with the sole intent of plugging a leak.I don't think the episode ever really clarified whether all three stories were lies, or just the two he told Varys and Littlefinger.'Marvin said:'the moops said:
The book played it out a little differently. Pycelle is in charge of the ravens at King's Landing. Tyrion has two sealed letters that he asks Pycelle to send to Dorne by raven. He tells Pycelle it is very important and the queen doesn't need to be burdened with it. It contains the same proposal that we saw in the show. This is obviously the real offer since sending the letter can't be undone.He verbally tells Littlefinger the same thing he did in the show.Tyrion then asks Varys if he knows how he is going to forge an allegiance with Dorne. Varys says he is going to offer Tommen - since he can't offer Myrcella to Lysa and Dorne. Implying that Varys has learned through his spies what Tyrion offered Littlefinger.Cersei confronts Tyrion about the offer of Myrcella to Dorne and the only way for her to know is if Pycelle opened the letter and told the queen.Dorne + Tommen would've implied VarysLysa + Myrcelle would've implied Littlefinger (or Varys if he holds back the info about Tommen).I don't recall if the book ever said what Tyrion told Varys and Finger.While the end result with Pycelle was the same in book and TV with him going to the black cells (in the book version Pycelle also pissed the bed when Tyrion and Shagga enter) how it played out was quite different if I remember right. Pycelle finds out about the betrothal thru a letter Tyrion wrote and Pycelle was supposed to send somewhere (Dorne?). Then Cersai confronts Tyrion and Tyrion realizes Pycelle is the rat.Thats why I asked...knowing a reader (Swing) would prob clarify....and to get some laughs from Marv and Moops.I don't think the episode ever really clarified whether all three stories were lies, or just the two he told Varys and Littlefinger.'Marvin said:'the moops said:
Not all lies - he does intend to make a strategic marriage with Myrcella for the reasons he gave to Cercei.To put it another way, the episode clearly illustrated that they were lies with the sole intent of plugging a leak.I don't think the episode ever really clarified whether all three stories were lies, or just the two he told Varys and Littlefinger.'Marvin said:'the moops said:
'renesauz said:Daenerys was my favorite last season, but Margery has the lead now. Stunning.Daenerys is still leading imo.When Margery dropped her robe, I definitely started a pole.
I was quite 
when she took off her wizard robe. Also a fan of Imp's whore.
That is Stannis Baratheon. He is King Robert's oldest brother and next in-line for the throne since Joffrey is a *******. He was mentioned in the first season a few times, but never shown. Ned sends him a letter informing him of the incest and his rightful place as king. Stannis' younger brother Renley (gay dude now claiming he is king) mentions him in season 1 as being a great general, but lacking the personality to be a king.Finally caught up! Need to read thread nowEta: could someone explain the king with the red head mistress fire witch...
Ok thought so ...thanks, Didn't know eddard was called NedThat is Stannis Baratheon. He is King Robert's oldest brother and next in-line for the throne since Joffrey is a *******. He was mentioned in the first season a few times, but never shown. Ned sends him a letter informing him of the incest and his rightful place as king. Stannis' younger brother Renley (gay dude now claiming he is king) mentions him in season 1 as being a great general, but lacking the personality to be a king.Finally caught up! Need to read thread now
No... But slippery Pete was the Russian space station guy in Armageddon
One slight thing. Joff is not the rightful heir to the throne because he is not King Robert's son at all. If he were a ******* there could be something to talk about perhaps, but he is a Lannister incest project.That is Stannis Baratheon. He is King Robert's oldest brother and next in-line for the throne since Joffrey is a *******. He was mentioned in the first season a few times, but never shown. Ned sends him a letter informing him of the incest and his rightful place as king. Stannis' younger brother Renley (gay dude now claiming he is king) mentions him in season 1 as being a great general, but lacking the personality to be a king.Finally caught up! Need to read thread now
Right... I understoodOne slight thing. Joff is not the rightful heir to the throne because he is not King Robert's son at all. If he were a ******* there could be something to talk about perhaps, but he is a Lannister incest project.That is Stannis Baratheon. He is King Robert's oldest brother and next in-line for the throne since Joffrey is a *******. He was mentioned in the first season a few times, but never shown. Ned sends him a letter informing him of the incest and his rightful place as king. Stannis' younger brother Renley (gay dude now claiming he is king) mentions him in season 1 as being a great general, but lacking the personality to be a king.Finally caught up! Need to read thread now
