Head Coaching Dopes in the NFL (1 Viewer)

[cobalt_27]

A vote for Cam is a vote for being an all-around whack-job. The Dolphins hired this schmuck, despite knowing what an awful H.C. he was in college.

a vote for Brad Childress is for having the most mind-numbing philosophy on how to manage his team, in particular the greatest star to arrive in MIN for quite some time.

Bobby Petrino for ignoring what the rest of us have known since last year: Warrick Dunn is finished, and Jerious Norwood is a game-breaking stud. Every week, the stat line looks like this:

Norwood: 6 rushes 40 yards; or 7 rushes for 89 yards; or 9 rushes for 110 yards.

Dunn: 12 rushes 28 yards; 14 rushes, 39 yards; 15 rushes 50 yards.

And, every week Petrino goes with the same losing formula. Three-and-out-and-we're-Dunn.

There are some other H.C. out there who are doing a remarkably terrible job. But, these three stand out as the biggest baffoons in the NFL today. Who's the worst?

 

[thayman]

At least with Childress running Chester Taylor you could argue that Taylor is a bit effective. Cameron is and Petrino seems bound and dertimined to keep Dunn in there no matter what.

 

[Kyzersosik]

umm, where the hell is the "all the above option"?

 

[3C's]

Write-in for Romeo

 

[JMJ]

Write-in for Eric Mangenius, or is that Mangidiot?

Every fan, every local reporter, every national reporter, every national fan of other teams knew that the time to pull Chad Pennington from the starting QB position was WEEKS ago but Eric insisted on being the tough guy who tells us when it is time with his, "Chad Pennington is my starting QB. Next question," act.

Chad threw 2 back-breaking interceptions against Buffalo in week 4 (one returned for a TD) that squandered a 4rth quarter lead and gave the Bills their only victory of the season in T. Edwards first career start at QB.

Chad threw 2 more back-breaking interceptions the following week against the Giants (with another returned for a TD) giving away a game where we led late in the 2nd half. Also, we scored a kick return AND a defensive TD in this game. How do you lose a game where you get two, non-offensive TDs?

Chad threw, you guessed it, 2 more back-breaking interceptions vs. the Eagles the following week and only led us to 3 FGs on the day at home, no TD drives at all.

Which leads us to yesterday. He had a good first half throwing 2 TDs (the second one all being run-after-the-catch ability by Coles, but that is neither here nor there). He again sqandered a 4rth quarter lead with FIVE, count them 5 second half three-and-outs vs. the statistical worst defense in the NFL with two turnovers (one of them being, you guessed it, another interception returned for a TD!).

It looks like Mangini is finally going to pull the plug on the Pennington experiment. Too bad he waited till we were 1-6 to do so.

 

[PatrickT]

I can't for the life of me figure out Petrino's insistence on using Dunn more than Norwood. Norwood has consistently out-performed him in every single game. But, other than that, he's done a decent job given the cards he's been dealt. I'll give him another year or two before I put him this category.

I keep wondering to myself if Blank has a hand in the Dunn/Norwood decisions. Would dearly love to know the answer.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

Why isn't Norwood the primary ball carrier in ATL, why isn't Peterson the primary ball carrier in MIN, why isn't Barber the primary ball carrier in DAL?

Guess you can't put Philips in there though. Still a bad call that Barber has out performed Jones for years but isn't the full out #1.

 

[djcolts]

**** Jauron should get some votes just for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory vs. Dallas two weeks ago.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I don't mind Childress rotating RB's, but clearly AP should be getting more touches.

The more inexcusable thing is to go into the season with your depth chart at QB being Jackson/Bollinger/Holcomb.

 

[Mungo Burrows]

Can I nominate Brian Billick?

You've got 2nd and 1, you're facing a tired, not particularly good defense, you've had some success running the ball, you're playing your backup QB who's had happy feet and been spraying the ball all over the field all day. There's 2 full minutes left (so there's time to mix up the plays at least a little bit), and we get this:

Two-Minute Warning

2-1-BUF 49 (1:59) (Shotgun) 7-K.Boller pass incomplete deep right to 87-D.Williams. Thrown behind receiver at BUF 30; receiver crossing to middle from flat.

3-1-BUF 49 (1:52) (Shotgun) 7-K.Boller pass incomplete short left to 89-M.Clayton (98-L.Tripplett). Pass tipped at line, receiver in flat at BUF 45.

4-1-BUF 49 (1:49) (Shotgun) 7-K.Boller pass incomplete short right to 32-M.Smith. Overthrown, receiver in flat at BUF 47. Pressure on QB: A.Schobel.

 

[RBM]

Whisenhunt belongs in here

 

[Max Power]

Wow, you missed a lot of coaches on this one...

Brian Billick

Andy Ried

Eric Mangini

Nolan

 

[cobalt_27]

Why isn't Norwood the primary ball carrier in ATL, why isn't Peterson the primary ball carrier in MIN, why isn't Barber the primary ball carrier in DAL?Guess you can't put Philips in there though. Still a bad call that Barber has out performed Jones for years but isn't the full out #1.

It's move a bit in what direction, though. Especially yesterday it was clear to me watching the Cowboys game that Barber is becoming more of a feature back, and Jones is just getting in some nominal reps.

 

[cobalt_27]

Wow, you missed a lot of coaches on this one...Brian BillickAndy RiedEric ManginiNolan

I didn't miss any of them. BB is annoying, but not in the class of stupidity as these three. Andy Reid, you should be ashamed as a football fan to put his name amongst the rest of these mongrels. Eric Mangini was a Mangenius at the same point in time last year, and I don't really understand what the problem is that fans have with the guy, other than he coaches a team with little talent, and he has to make the decision on one of two bad quarterbacks to play. And, what's Nolan's problem? The Niners have been killed by injuries, and I'm not sure what background there is to throw him in amongst this group.No, Cam-Childress-Petrino, they have their own fraternity right now in this thread.

 

[GoinDeep]

I don't mind Childress rotating RB's, but clearly AP should be getting more touches.The more inexcusable thing is to go into the season with your depth chart at QB being Jackson/Bollinger/Holcomb.

THANK YOU!Everyone is moving to a 2 back offense, so I think Taylor and AP splitting carries is fine. BUT TO KEEP STARTING JACKSON? Thats inexcusable.

 

[cobalt_27]

Whisenhunt belongs in here

I never liked him to begin with, and he's made some pretty shady decisions in AZ thus far. I'd be inclined to say he's close to this tier of ineptitude, at least.

 

[cobalt_27]

I don't mind Childress rotating RB's, but clearly AP should be getting more touches.The more inexcusable thing is to go into the season with your depth chart at QB being Jackson/Bollinger/Holcomb.

THANK YOU!Everyone is moving to a 2 back offense, so I think Taylor and AP splitting carries is fine. BUT TO KEEP STARTING JACKSON? Thats inexcusable.

So, because everybody's doing it, would you suggest that San Diego start rotating Turner in for 40-50% of the carries? Perhaps Anthony Thomas needs to carry the ball more in Buffalo? I imagine you'd think that Najeh Davenport should also get 40-50% of the reps in Pittsburgh, since....everyone is moving to a 2-back offense.

 

[cobalt_27]

Write-in for Eric Mangenius, or is that Mangidiot?Every fan, every local reporter, every national reporter, every national fan of other teams knew that the time to pull Chad Pennington from the starting QB position was WEEKS ago but Eric insisted on being the tough guy who tells us when it is time with his, "Chad Pennington is my starting QB. Next question," act.Chad threw 2 back-breaking interceptions against Buffalo in week 4 (one returned for a TD) that squandered a 4rth quarter lead and gave the Bills their only victory of the season in T. Edwards first career start at QB. Chad threw 2 more back-breaking interceptions the following week against the Giants (with another returned for a TD) giving away a game where we led late in the 2nd half. Also, we scored a kick return AND a defensive TD in this game. How do you lose a game where you get two, non-offensive TDs?Chad threw, you guessed it, 2 more back-breaking interceptions vs. the Eagles the following week and only led us to 3 FGs on the day at home, no TD drives at all.Which leads us to yesterday. He had a good first half throwing 2 TDs (the second one all being run-after-the-catch ability by Coles, but that is neither here nor there). He again sqandered a 4rth quarter lead with FIVE, count them 5 second half three-and-outs vs. the statistical worst defense in the NFL with two turnovers (one of them being, you guessed it, another interception returned for a TD!).It looks like Mangini is finally going to pull the plug on the Pennington experiment. Too bad he waited till we were 1-6 to do so.

As an Oregon Duck alumn, all I can say to this is that I wouldn't be too thrilled or excited about what you have backing up Pennington.

 

[mon]

Whisenhunt belongs in here

Why? I think he's in the top 10.

 

[JMJ]

Write-in for Eric Mangenius, or is that Mangidiot?Every fan, every local reporter, every national reporter, every national fan of other teams knew that the time to pull Chad Pennington from the starting QB position was WEEKS ago but Eric insisted on being the tough guy who tells us when it is time with his, "Chad Pennington is my starting QB. Next question," act.Chad threw 2 back-breaking interceptions against Buffalo in week 4 (one returned for a TD) that squandered a 4rth quarter lead and gave the Bills their only victory of the season in T. Edwards first career start at QB. Chad threw 2 more back-breaking interceptions the following week against the Giants (with another returned for a TD) giving away a game where we led late in the 2nd half. Also, we scored a kick return AND a defensive TD in this game. How do you lose a game where you get two, non-offensive TDs?Chad threw, you guessed it, 2 more back-breaking interceptions vs. the Eagles the following week and only led us to 3 FGs on the day at home, no TD drives at all.Which leads us to yesterday. He had a good first half throwing 2 TDs (the second one all being run-after-the-catch ability by Coles, but that is neither here nor there). He again sqandered a 4rth quarter lead with FIVE, count them 5 second half three-and-outs vs. the statistical worst defense in the NFL with two turnovers (one of them being, you guessed it, another interception returned for a TD!).It looks like Mangini is finally going to pull the plug on the Pennington experiment. Too bad he waited till we were 1-6 to do so.

As an Oregon Duck alumn, all I can say to this is that I wouldn't be too thrilled or excited about what you have backing up Pennington.

Did you purposely not elaborate just so I would have to ask you to? What about Clemens should I "not be too thrilled about?"

 

[QuizGuy66]

Hmm maybe we do eight division poles of the coaches (best and worst) and make a tourney of it?

It would seem each coach has his own blind spot or spots that drive their fans nuts. As a Bengals fan with Marvin it's horribly hopeless replay challenges and a general disregard for the value of timeouts.

-QG

 

[cobalt_27]

As an Oregon Duck alumn, all I can say to this is that I wouldn't be too thrilled or excited about what you have backing up Pennington.

Did you purposely not elaborate just so I would have to ask you to? What about Clemens should I "not be too thrilled about?"

He's stiff. He locks in on his guys. Limited arm strength.But, hey, other than that...go have fun, 'cause he's your next starting QB, probably next week.

 

[CalBear]

Flawed poll: No Norv option.

 

[GoBills02]

Write-in for Eric Mangenius, or is that Mangidiot?

Every fan, every local reporter, every national reporter, every national fan of other teams knew that the time to pull Chad Pennington from the starting QB position was WEEKS ago but Eric insisted on being the tough guy who tells us when it is time with his, "Chad Pennington is my starting QB. Next question," act.

Chad threw 2 back-breaking interceptions against Buffalo in week 4 (one returned for a TD) that squandered a 4rth quarter lead and gave the Bills their only victory of the season in T. Edwards first career start at QB.

Chad threw 2 more back-breaking interceptions the following week against the Giants (with another returned for a TD) giving away a game where we led late in the 2nd half. Also, we scored a kick return AND a defensive TD in this game. How do you lose a game where you get two, non-offensive TDs?

Chad threw, you guessed it, 2 more back-breaking interceptions vs. the Eagles the following week and only led us to 3 FGs on the day at home, no TD drives at all.

Which leads us to yesterday. He had a good first half throwing 2 TDs (the second one all being run-after-the-catch ability by Coles, but that is neither here nor there). He again sqandered a 4rth quarter lead with FIVE, count them 5 second half three-and-outs vs. the statistical worst defense in the NFL with two turnovers (one of them being, you guessed it, another interception returned for a TD!).

It looks like Mangini is finally going to pull the plug on the Pennington experiment. Too bad he waited till we were 1-6 to do so.

Thank you, we have now doubled that.

 

[JMJ]

As an Oregon Duck alumn, all I can say to this is that I wouldn't be too thrilled or excited about what you have backing up Pennington.

Did you purposely not elaborate just so I would have to ask you to? What about Clemens should I "not be too thrilled about?"

He's stiff. He locks in on his guys. Limited arm strength.But, hey, other than that...go have fun, 'cause he's your next starting QB, probably next week.

10X's the arm of the guy who he is replacing who also locks on his guys and if in "stiff," you mean immobile; have you ever seen Chad Pennington?

 

[RBM]

Whisenhunt belongs in here

Why? I think he's in the top 10.

2 things that stand out are the rotating qb thing and yesterdays 2 pt conversion call.Just makes you wonder why the Rooney's were so ok passing on him.

 

[cobalt_27]

As an Oregon Duck alumn, all I can say to this is that I wouldn't be too thrilled or excited about what you have backing up Pennington.

Did you purposely not elaborate just so I would have to ask you to? What about Clemens should I "not be too thrilled about?"

He's stiff. He locks in on his guys. Limited arm strength.But, hey, other than that...go have fun, 'cause he's your next starting QB, probably next week.

10X's the arm of the guy who he is replacing who also locks on his guys and if in "stiff," you mean immobile; have you ever seen Chad Pennington?

I'm with ya'. He might be better than Pennington. I just wouldn't get too excited about it. Plus, Pennington's really regressed this year. I think Mangini has to get some slack here in giving CP some time/space to figure things out, because he'd shown a lot of poise to get things done in the past. But, the time is now for a change, I think.

 

[Warpig]

I've gone from being a Herm Edwards apologist, to a Herm basher. I think he should be added to the list as well.

I get tired of looking at his dumbfounded face every week...standing on the sidelines wondering why the draw play didn't work when it was 3rd and 8. I don't know how many times they've tried that stupid draw play on 3rd and long this year. It's very predictable. If it weren't for Huard making a couple of game saving plays after having defenders hanging on him the Chiefs would have lost that game. It is so painful to watch this pathetic excuse for an offense. I just knew Croyle was getting ready to come in until Huard made that one big play to Bowe after he spun out of a couple of potential sacks. Take away LJ's one long run and that long pass to Bowe and the Chiefs are lucky to score 6 pts.

Herm must have sold his soul to Satan the way he lucks into wins. I can guarantee you they haven't won any games due to his offensive game planning.

 

[fatness king]

Can I nominate Brian Billick?You've got 2nd and 1, you're facing a tired, not particularly good defense, you've had some success running the ball, you're playing your backup QB who's had happy feet and been spraying the ball all over the field all day. There's 2 full minutes left (so there's time to mix up the plays at least a little bit), and we get this:

I agree. BB should be on the list because he has better talent. I was playing against McGahee this week, so I'm glad BB is a moron, but how could you not use him at the end?BB is just leaning on his defense and a "brilliant" dink-n-dunk passing game.

 

[kupcho1]

Can I nominate Brian Billick?You've got 2nd and 1, you're facing a tired, not particularly good defense, you've had some success running the ball, you're playing your backup QB who's had happy feet and been spraying the ball all over the field all day. There's 2 full minutes left (so there's time to mix up the plays at least a little bit), and we get this: Two-Minute Warning2-1-BUF 49 (1:59) (Shotgun) 7-K.Boller pass incomplete deep right to 87-D.Williams. Thrown behind receiver at BUF 30; receiver crossing to middle from flat.3-1-BUF 49 (1:52) (Shotgun) 7-K.Boller pass incomplete short left to 89-M.Clayton (98-L.Tripplett). Pass tipped at line, receiver in flat at BUF 45.4-1-BUF 49 (1:49) (Shotgun) 7-K.Boller pass incomplete short right to 32-M.Smith. Overthrown, receiver in flat at BUF 47. Pressure on QB: A.Schobel.

First name that came to mind. How this guy still has a job is beyond me.

 

[Jayded]

I have a hard time finding something Cam Cameron has done right thus far. He did seemingly improve Brown's production. In the same sense you could say that Childress and brass drafted ADP and got lucky in that regard. I'll never forget Cameron standing up there on that podium the day of the draft and doing his best to justify the Ginn selection and talking solely about his punt return capabilities and how they were drafting the entire family.

 

[letter_j]

I voted for Childress.

First, the ADP situation is disturbing and having your best offensive player returning kickoffs...not a good idea.

Then, yesterday, in the 3rd quarter, Minn leading 14-7, Dallas punches it in from the one on second down and it's a close play but the replay shows that Barber reaches out and the ball clearly breaks the plane. So...Childress decides to challenge...I was like WTF...even if you win that challenge (and I was sure that they would not) they still have two more downs to punch it in...lunacy!

 

[Genester]

Write-in for Eric Mangenius, or is that Mangidiot?Every fan, every local reporter, every national reporter, every national fan of other teams knew that the time to pull Chad Pennington from the starting QB position was WEEKS ago but Eric insisted on being the tough guy who tells us when it is time with his, "Chad Pennington is my starting QB. Next question," act.Which leads us to yesterday. He had a good first half throwing 2 TDs (the second one all being run-after-the-catch ability by Coles, but that is neither here nor there). He again sqandered a 4rth quarter lead with FIVE, count them 5 second half three-and-outs vs. the statistical worst defense in the NFL with two turnovers (one of them being, you guessed it, another interception returned for a TD!).It looks like Mangini is finally going to pull the plug on the Pennington experiment. Too bad he waited till we were 1-6 to do so.

/hijack onI would agree Chad isnt' a great QB and Kellen should have been in a few weeks ago. This being said, having watched the Jets-Cinci game, that loss has ZERO to do with Chad Pennington, IMHO. The INT he threw was with his team down, when the other team knew he had to throw. The play-calling i the second half turned ultra conservative - the Jets decided to play keepaway, which was obviously a bad strategy (another vote for Mangine here!), given how much the Jets D sucks. Allowing Kenny Watson career numbers in rushing and TDs says enough. Net, Mangini deserves a vote, but Chad isn't to blame for yesterday./hijack off

 

[Avery]

Didn't Childress compare Peterson to Napoleon Kaufman?

If I'm remembering the quote correctly, that alone should lead to a stipulated win by Childress in this poll.

 

[buzzhunter]

Voted for Petrino, but more for his ridiculous benching of Joey Harrington, who was actually playing pretty well, for Brittle Byron. If he hadn't already lost this team, that sealed it. But yeah, getting a gamechanger in at RB might be a nice call too.

 

[Avery]

Voted for Petrino, but more for his ridiculous benching of Joey Harrington, who was actually playing pretty well, for Brittle Byron. If he hadn't already lost this team, that sealed it. But yeah, getting a gamechanger in at RB might be a nice call too.

I refuse to believe that the dumbest coaching move is the entire NFL would every be the benching of Joey Harrington.

 

[Duk]

Its Childress and its not even close

 

[SharkBait]

Why isn't Norwood the primary ball carrier in ATL, why isn't Peterson the primary ball carrier in MIN, why isn't Barber the primary ball carrier in DAL?Guess you can't put Philips in there though. Still a bad call that Barber has out performed Jones for years but isn't the full out #1.

Not to mention that he simply has it backwards. Make Barber the punishing back that wears down the defenses, then throw in Jones as a change in pace where there's a good chance he breaks a long one. Phillips reminds me a lot of Switzer. He inherited a good team and is scared to change a thing.

 

[mr. furley]

after reading MMQB today, i think Cameron gets a pass for a couple seasons

 

[mon]

Whisenhunt belongs in here

Why? I think he's in the top 10.

2 things that stand out are the rotating qb thing and yesterdays 2 pt conversion call.Just makes you wonder why the Rooney's were so ok passing on him.

First of all, the qb thing is a tough call. You've got a QB who is your future you want to groom, and then you've got this old QB who's outplaying him. I think he'll eventually figure out the best move here.The things that impress me: his defense is vastly improved and his shift from a running game to a more balanced game. In their first game this year, you saw the team he wanted: a team that ran the ball down your throat. Well, that didn't work so he was intelligent enough to switch gears.I would not be at all surprised if they ended up winning their division. I think in the long run he's going to end up being a very good NFL coach.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Can I nominate Brian Billick?You've got 2nd and 1, you're facing a tired, not particularly good defense, you've had some success running the ball, you're playing your backup QB who's had happy feet and been spraying the ball all over the field all day. There's 2 full minutes left (so there's time to mix up the plays at least a little bit), and we get this: Two-Minute Warning2-1-BUF 49 (1:59) (Shotgun) 7-K.Boller pass incomplete deep right to 87-D.Williams. Thrown behind receiver at BUF 30; receiver crossing to middle from flat.3-1-BUF 49 (1:52) (Shotgun) 7-K.Boller pass incomplete short left to 89-M.Clayton (98-L.Tripplett). Pass tipped at line, receiver in flat at BUF 45.4-1-BUF 49 (1:49) (Shotgun) 7-K.Boller pass incomplete short right to 32-M.Smith. Overthrown, receiver in flat at BUF 47. Pressure on QB: A.Schobel.

What's funny is that none of those passes went to the reliable possession receiver (Mason).

 

[Cable]

Wow, you missed a lot of coaches on this one...

Brian Billick

Andy Ried

Eric Mangini

Nolan

I didn't miss any of them. BB is annoying, but not in the class of stupidity as these three. Andy Reid, you should be ashamed as a football fan to put his name amongst the rest of these mongrels. Eric Mangini was a Mangenius at the same point in time last year, and I don't really understand what the problem is that fans have with the guy, other than he coaches a team with little talent, and he has to make the decision on one of two bad quarterbacks to play. And, what's Nolan's problem? The Niners have been killed by injuries, and I'm not sure what background there is to throw him in amongst this group.No, Cam-Childress-Petrino, they have their own fraternity right now in this thread.

I am a football fan, and an Eagles fan to boot, and I'd not only put Andy Reid's name amongst these 'mongrels', but I'd move him to head of the list!!!! No I'm not ashamed of that, but the play of my team's offensive offense is embarrassing and it starts with Andrew R. Reid and his lack of gameplanning, game-time adjustments and inability to see just what his team's strengths really are. Unfortunately he's owed $13 million over the next 3 years, so we get 3 more seasons of "I've got to put the players in better positions to make plays" and other assorted hollow statements from Andy Kotite.

 

[mad sweeney]

Wow, you missed a lot of coaches on this one...Brian BillickAndy RiedEric ManginiNolan

Holmgren is making a case to be in this list in a normal year. Fortunately for him there are others doing worse. But put it this way. 4th and an inch and he gives the ball to the smallest back, off tackle. Off a tackle not named All Universe Walter Jones. Add in plenty of clock managment issues dating back to the SB, the FB draw on 3rd and long, and a variety of other buffoonery. Based on his legacy and success, these gaffs might be big enough to gain entry into the poll over these newer head coaches without success to base their failures upon. But I would have to say Childress with the options given. And that's because he's got the team most capable of making the playoffs and is squandering that chance. I absolutely agree with keeping AP healthy and spelling him. And Chester is no slouch. But AP is clearly the best weapon on the team and when you keep the ball out of his hands it's just sheer lunacy. Fumble or no, he's the best option and he should be getting 65-70% of the RB touches. And he should absolutely NOT be returning kicks. You don't let teams send crazy bastards screaming full speed at your franchise player for a head on collision with a 40 yard run up.Petrino, the team was decimated when Vick left. His WRs stone handed Joey to the bench, and then started catching the ball. Go figure. Now, after you switched steering wheels to fix a flat tire, your fix it steering wheel is broken and you have to rely on the guy you just emasculated for doing a good job and getting hosed by the WRs. Perhaps he's playing for Brohm and this is a genius at work.Cameron is a toad with an old team and no realistic chance of winning a game. His team is so bad that even his bad coaching isn't really affecting the team's W/L column.