Sorry about Homer thing, thought somebody might have been at the game(Raven fan) anyway i appreciate the help thanks!!I'm curious, why do posts still beg for "homers" to chime in? Usually, major news outlets are the first to hear, and rightfully so (usually better contacts/better journalists, etc.). I haven't seen a genuine "homer" insight in quite a while here.
Anyway, I'm from Wisconsin, but:
INJURY UPDATE: Tight end Todd Heap injured his hamstring, and didn't return.
He was uncertain of his status for next week's game against the San Francisco 49ers.
"I wouldn't say it's horrible," Heap said.
http://www.carrollcountytimes.com/articles...ports100107.txt
Typically because "homers" have access to local media and they will be reporting first.The national media only regurgitates what it gets from local reporters feeds.But I am sure you already knew that.eta:I'm curious, why do posts still beg for "homers" to chime in?
This is very, very untrue. This happens about 30% of the time, and when it does, it's almost immediate anyway.When local media gets something national media might want, one of the first calls they make, even while typing up the story, is to the national feed/AP. I did this all the time--it's the best way to get the local station's name out in the national media. Free advertising at its best.But, I'm sure you already knew that.The national media only regurgitates what it gets from local reporters feeds.
Wow, did someone offend you in some way ?This is very, very untrue. This happens about 30% of the time, and when it does, it's almost immediate anyway.When local media gets something national media might want, one of the first calls they make, even while typing up the story, is to the national feed/AP. I did this all the time--it's the best way to get the local station's name out in the national media. Free advertising at its best.But, I'm sure you already knew that.The national media only regurgitates what it gets from local reporters feeds.
Wow, did someone offend you in some way ?This is very, very untrue. This happens about 30% of the time, and when it does, it's almost immediate anyway.When local media gets something national media might want, one of the first calls they make, even while typing up the story, is to the national feed/AP. I did this all the time--it's the best way to get the local station's name out in the national media. Free advertising at its best.But, I'm sure you already knew that.The national media only regurgitates what it gets from local reporters feeds.
I am not trying to pile on, but to be honest, my response wasn't intended to be sarcastic. I disagree with you. That's all.:X No. It's just something I've been wondering about for a while. I got a sarcastic response, so I inserted that last line for a little fun this Monday morning.When did people become so damn sensitive in here?Wow, did someone offend you in some way ?This is very, very untrue. This happens about 30% of the time, and when it does, it's almost immediate anyway.When local media gets something national media might want, one of the first calls they make, even while typing up the story, is to the national feed/AP. I did this all the time--it's the best way to get the local station's name out in the national media. Free advertising at its best.But, I'm sure you already knew that.The national media only regurgitates what it gets from local reporters feeds.
And I disagreed with you...and thought it would be funny to use your own sarcastic words there.I don't think we have a problem with each other at all. I think Sheriff just thrust himself in the middle of a problem that didn't exist.I am not trying to pile on, but to be honest, my response wasn't intended to be sarcastic. I disagree with you. That's all.:X No. It's just something I've been wondering about for a while. I got a sarcastic response, so I inserted that last line for a little fun this Monday morning.When did people become so damn sensitive in here?Wow, did someone offend you in some way ?This is very, very untrue. This happens about 30% of the time, and when it does, it's almost immediate anyway.When local media gets something national media might want, one of the first calls they make, even while typing up the story, is to the national feed/AP. I did this all the time--it's the best way to get the local station's name out in the national media. Free advertising at its best.But, I'm sure you already knew that.The national media only regurgitates what it gets from local reporters feeds.
I think it largely depends on whether the individual in question is a star or not. Todd Heap is important enough to Baltimore that his status will be talked about each night on the local news. I am not sure he is a big enough star for the national media outlets to pay a ton of attention to.That being said, with a hamstring injury you are not going to know anything definitive until he gets back on the practice field this week and like someone else said he is probably headed for a game time decision.This is very, very untrue. This happens about 30% of the time, and when it does, it's almost immediate anyway.When local media gets something national media might want, one of the first calls they make, even while typing up the story, is to the national feed/AP. I did this all the time--it's the best way to get the local station's name out in the national media. Free advertising at its best.But, I'm sure you already knew that.The national media only regurgitates what it gets from local reporters feeds.
It was your delivery bro, a little condecending:X No. It's just something I've been wondering about for a while. I got a sarcastic response, so I inserted that last line for a little fun this Monday morning.When did people become so damn sensitive in here?Wow, did someone offend you in some way ?This is very, very untrue. This happens about 30% of the time, and when it does, it's almost immediate anyway.When local media gets something national media might want, one of the first calls they make, even while typing up the story, is to the national feed/AP. I did this all the time--it's the best way to get the local station's name out in the national media. Free advertising at its best.But, I'm sure you already knew that.The national media only regurgitates what it gets from local reporters feeds.
And I disagreed with you...and thought it would be funny to use your own sarcastic words there.I don't think we have a problem with each other at all. I think Sheriff just thrust himself in the middle of a problem that didn't exist.I am not trying to pile on, but to be honest, my response wasn't intended to be sarcastic. I disagree with you. That's all.Wow, did someone offend you in some way ?This is very, very untrue. This happens about 30% of the time, and when it does, it's almost immediate anyway.When local media gets something national media might want, one of the first calls they make, even while typing up the story, is to the national feed/AP. I did this all the time--it's the best way to get the local station's name out in the national media. Free advertising at its best.But, I'm sure you already knew that.The national media only regurgitates what it gets from local reporters feeds.No. It's just something I've been wondering about for a while. I got a sarcastic response, so I inserted that last line for a little fun this Monday morning.When did people become so damn sensitive in here?
Considering your stance on Eli-gate, I would think you would have reconsidered your views on this, since it was the local beat writer that was right and your beloved Chris Mortenson, the national guy, that was completely and 100% wrong.This is very, very untrue. This happens about 30% of the time, and when it does, it's almost immediate anyway.When local media gets something national media might want, one of the first calls they make, even while typing up the story, is to the national feed/AP. I did this all the time--it's the best way to get the local station's name out in the national media. Free advertising at its best.But, I'm sure you already knew that.The national media only regurgitates what it gets from local reporters feeds.
Wow, another iStalker. This is all I need.As for that, one example isn't really going to change my mind...especially when I've seen many more to the contrary. I'm sure you'll go bump the thread anyway, though.It's amazing. The amount of chest-thumping and thread-bumping and "calling out the haters" on this board is getting ridiculous. The high-end posters on the board never bump when they're right, and get stuff bumped all the time when they're wrong. It makes them look stupid when they actually have very, very good points a lot of the time--and since they don't take victory laps, the only impression of them is that they're dumb.I'm never very serious about this place, but this crap needs to stop. It's childish, immature, and actually hurts the reputations of posters who are trying to make good insights.Considering your stance on Eli-gate, I would think you would have reconsidered your views on this, since it was the local beat writer that was right and your beloved Chris Mortenson, the national guy, that was completely and 100% wrong.This is very, very untrue. This happens about 30% of the time, and when it does, it's almost immediate anyway.When local media gets something national media might want, one of the first calls they make, even while typing up the story, is to the national feed/AP. I did this all the time--it's the best way to get the local station's name out in the national media. Free advertising at its best.But, I'm sure you already knew that.The national media only regurgitates what it gets from local reporters feeds.
I never included myself among the quality posters in here. Don't interpret it that way.I'm sarcastic, not condescending. Yes, there is a difference. I back up people and try to encourage contrary opinions more than 95% of the people in here.As for you disagreeing with me, good for you. I will probably never agree with you, since as a local reporter, I've seen the differences firsthand. Maybe my experience is clouding my judgment, but I've just seen too much evidence to the contrary for one incident to turn me completely around. You seem to think being wrong one time should always be seen as truth, rather than an isolated incident. That's a perfectly valid opinion, but it doesn't mean I have to turn around and agree with it.HTH.whatever man, you act all condescending towards others, and when it's about the exact same topic, I find it surprising that you still act that way on the same subject after being wrong. It was a legit question. If you can't handle that maybe you should find another place to go. Personally, I think you are 100% wrong on the question of whether national reporters are more reliable than local ones.
Let make one thing clear, I'm not stalking you. I just came in here to read about Heaps injury, and your the one slapping the guy on the wrist for asking for "homer" info, instead of posting what information you had on the injury. Sorry, if you are so worried about the "quality" of the posting, leave your diatribes about "homers" out of the thread an post the info you have on the injury.Wow, another iStalker. This is all I need.As for that, one example isn't really going to change my mind...especially when I've seen many more to the contrary. I'm sure you'll go bump the thread anyway, though.It's amazing. The amount of chest-thumping and thread-bumping and "calling out the haters" on this board is getting ridiculous. The high-end posters on the board never bump when they're right, and get stuff bumped all the time when they're wrong. It makes them look stupid when they actually have very, very good points a lot of the time--and since they don't take victory laps, the only impression of them is that they're dumb.I'm never very serious about this place, but this crap needs to stop. It's childish, immature, and actually hurts the reputations of posters who are trying to make good insights.Considering your stance on Eli-gate, I would think you would have reconsidered your views on this, since it was the local beat writer that was right and your beloved Chris Mortenson, the national guy, that was completely and 100% wrong.This is very, very untrue. This happens about 30% of the time, and when it does, it's almost immediate anyway.When local media gets something national media might want, one of the first calls they make, even while typing up the story, is to the national feed/AP. I did this all the time--it's the best way to get the local station's name out in the national media. Free advertising at its best.But, I'm sure you already knew that.The national media only regurgitates what it gets from local reporters feeds.
Let me make this clear: I wasn't referring to you in terms of iStalkers. You're a guppy in that world, I promise.Let make one thing clear, I'm not stalking you.Wow, another iStalker. This is all I need.As for that, one example isn't really going to change my mind...especially when I've seen many more to the contrary. I'm sure you'll go bump the thread anyway, though.It's amazing. The amount of chest-thumping and thread-bumping and "calling out the haters" on this board is getting ridiculous. The high-end posters on the board never bump when they're right, and get stuff bumped all the time when they're wrong. It makes them look stupid when they actually have very, very good points a lot of the time--and since they don't take victory laps, the only impression of them is that they're dumb.I'm never very serious about this place, but this crap needs to stop. It's childish, immature, and actually hurts the reputations of posters who are trying to make good insights.Considering your stance on Eli-gate, I would think you would have reconsidered your views on this, since it was the local beat writer that was right and your beloved Chris Mortenson, the national guy, that was completely and 100% wrong.This is very, very untrue. This happens about 30% of the time, and when it does, it's almost immediate anyway.When local media gets something national media might want, one of the first calls they make, even while typing up the story, is to the national feed/AP. I did this all the time--it's the best way to get the local station's name out in the national media. Free advertising at its best.But, I'm sure you already knew that.The national media only regurgitates what it gets from local reporters feeds.
Let me make this clear: I wasn't referring to you in terms of iStalkers. You're a guppy in that world, I promise.Let make one thing clear, I'm not stalking you.Wow, another iStalker. This is all I need.As for that, one example isn't really going to change my mind...especially when I've seen many more to the contrary. I'm sure you'll go bump the thread anyway, though.It's amazing. The amount of chest-thumping and thread-bumping and "calling out the haters" on this board is getting ridiculous. The high-end posters on the board never bump when they're right, and get stuff bumped all the time when they're wrong. It makes them look stupid when they actually have very, very good points a lot of the time--and since they don't take victory laps, the only impression of them is that they're dumb.I'm never very serious about this place, but this crap needs to stop. It's childish, immature, and actually hurts the reputations of posters who are trying to make good insights.Considering your stance on Eli-gate, I would think you would have reconsidered your views on this, since it was the local beat writer that was right and your beloved Chris Mortenson, the national guy, that was completely and 100% wrong.This is very, very untrue. This happens about 30% of the time, and when it does, it's almost immediate anyway.When local media gets something national media might want, one of the first calls they make, even while typing up the story, is to the national feed/AP. I did this all the time--it's the best way to get the local station's name out in the national media. Free advertising at its best.But, I'm sure you already knew that.The national media only regurgitates what it gets from local reporters feeds.![]()
I'll be honest: I don't think local reporters are infallible to any degree, but it seems like in the sports world they have more time to cultivate a relationship with the team, not just with the players and coaches, but also with trainers, team doctors, etc., and I think they have a major leg-up than the ESPN or CBS guys. Also, I really find ESPN to be about the most scoop-hungry, unreliable reporters in the world of journalism. I would take any local beat-writers word over theirs in just about any sports situation I could imagine. That's why I found your mort-quote so funny. The guy just reports whatever he thinks, and then ESPN reports it as fact. Surely as a journalist you see why this is against journalistic ethics.ETA: The main reason I found the Mort thing funny is because he and ESPN have a long, established track record of doing this. So I wasn't making any decisions based on one incident. I knew Mort was full of crap on that because he often is.I never included myself among the quality posters in here. Don't interpret it that way.I'm sarcastic, not condescending. Yes, there is a difference. I back up people and try to encourage contrary opinions more than 95% of the people in here.As for you disagreeing with me, good for you. I will probably never agree with you, since as a local reporter, I've seen the differences firsthand. Maybe my experience is clouding my judgment, but I've just seen too much evidence to the contrary for one incident to turn me completely around. You seem to think being wrong one time should always be seen as truth, rather than an isolated incident. That's a perfectly valid opinion, but it doesn't mean I have to turn around and agree with it.HTH.whatever man, you act all condescending towards others, and when it's about the exact same topic, I find it surprising that you still act that way on the same subject after being wrong. It was a legit question. If you can't handle that maybe you should find another place to go. Personally, I think you are 100% wrong on the question of whether national reporters are more reliable than local ones.
I think where we disagree is on the bolded. Mort has his group of insiders that he makes the rounds on. He never says that it's fact, just that his "inside team officials" are saying. I'm pretty sure the inside officials said it would be a month, Mort reported it that way, stuck to his guns that it was what he was told, and those officials ended up wrong.That's why I'm sticking to my point. When you use inside sources, they're going to be wrong sometimes. As long as you clarify where the info is coming from (which he did), I don't see any ethical problem with what he's doing.I'll be honest: I don't think local reporters are infallible to any degree, but it seems like in the sports world they have more time to cultivate a relationship with the team, not just with the players and coaches, but also with trainers, team doctors, etc., and I think they have a major leg-up than the ESPN or CBS guys. Also, I really find ESPN to be about the most scoop-hungry, unreliable reporters in the world of journalism. I would take any local beat-writers word over theirs in just about any sports situation I could imagine. That's why I found your mort-quote so funny. The guy just reports whatever he thinks, and then ESPN reports it as fact. Surely as a journalist you see why this is against journalistic ethics.ETA: The main reason I found the Mort thing funny is because he and ESPN have a long, established track record of doing this. So I wasn't making any decisions based on one incident. I knew Mort was full of crap on that because he often is.I never included myself among the quality posters in here. Don't interpret it that way.I'm sarcastic, not condescending. Yes, there is a difference. I back up people and try to encourage contrary opinions more than 95% of the people in here.whatever man, you act all condescending towards others, and when it's about the exact same topic, I find it surprising that you still act that way on the same subject after being wrong. It was a legit question. If you can't handle that maybe you should find another place to go. Personally, I think you are 100% wrong on the question of whether national reporters are more reliable than local ones.
As for you disagreeing with me, good for you. I will probably never agree with you, since as a local reporter, I've seen the differences firsthand. Maybe my experience is clouding my judgment, but I've just seen too much evidence to the contrary for one incident to turn me completely around. You seem to think being wrong one time should always be seen as truth, rather than an isolated incident. That's a perfectly valid opinion, but it doesn't mean I have to turn around and agree with it.
HTH.
Yeah, we pretty much gave you the latest in the first two posts. Local links, too.Thanks for all the great info on Heap's injury...
Whether there's something wrong with it I'll leave to you as you are more familiar with the ethics of the profession as well as its pressures. BUT, that is exactly the reason I don't pay any attention to what he says and I'm better for it for the most part. Because he is so hungry to break a story, he reports when he should still be source- and fact-checking, which makes him an unreliable source of info. I have nothing against him personally, it's more the way ESPN uses him as a "source" when he works for them. I understand he must have some sources, but when ESPN runs a title-ticker on bottom, they don't say "Mort's sources say Eli could be out for a month." They simply say "Eli out a month" and don't even disclose that the source is in fact their own guy and its coming from his sources.Yes, he's scoop-hungry. Yes, he wants to be the first with information. What's wrong with that? Yeah, he's going to be wrong sometimes...but as long as he's clarifying before he says it (which he's done), I honestly don't see the problem.I'll be honest: I don't think local reporters are infallible to any degree, but it seems like in the sports world they have more time to cultivate a relationship with the team, not just with the players and coaches, but also with trainers, team doctors, etc., and I think they have a major leg-up than the ESPN or CBS guys. Also, I really find ESPN to be about the most scoop-hungry, unreliable reporters in the world of journalism. I would take any local beat-writers word over theirs in just about any sports situation I could imagine. That's why I found your mort-quote so funny. The guy just reports whatever he thinks, and then ESPN reports it as fact. Surely as a journalist you see why this is against journalistic ethics.ETA: The main reason I found the Mort thing funny is because he and ESPN have a long, established track record of doing this. So I wasn't making any decisions based on one incident. I knew Mort was full of crap on that because he often is.I never included myself among the quality posters in here. Don't interpret it that way.I'm sarcastic, not condescending. Yes, there is a difference. I back up people and try to encourage contrary opinions more than 95% of the people in here.whatever man, you act all condescending towards others, and when it's about the exact same topic, I find it surprising that you still act that way on the same subject after being wrong. It was a legit question. If you can't handle that maybe you should find another place to go. Personally, I think you are 100% wrong on the question of whether national reporters are more reliable than local ones.
As for you disagreeing with me, good for you. I will probably never agree with you, since as a local reporter, I've seen the differences firsthand. Maybe my experience is clouding my judgment, but I've just seen too much evidence to the contrary for one incident to turn me completely around. You seem to think being wrong one time should always be seen as truth, rather than an isolated incident. That's a perfectly valid opinion, but it doesn't mean I have to turn around and agree with it.
HTH.
This is a very fair point.I understand he must have some sources, but when ESPN runs a title-ticker on bottom, they don't say "Mort's sources say Eli could be out for a month." They simply say "Eli out a month" and don't even disclose that the source is in fact their own guy and its coming from his sources.
I'm missing where the pissing match happened. Pretty sure we saw each other's viewpoints and reached a resolution.Look, guys...in the first reply, I gave an update for Heap. If there was anything since then, either me or somebody else would've posted it. Until then, relax. Not every thread in the world is going to stay completely on topic.It happens. We're still talking football, and it actually does relate to Heap's injury, just not in the direct way you want. Just relax a little, and quit taking this thing so seriously.I'll never get that 3 minutes of my life back. Geesh, can the pissing matches be done over IM?
Don't the local affiliates get more in depth interviews of their local team? Alot of the times after Skins game you may see the same HL's on ESPN but you may not have seen the local reporters interviews with the players that might provide some additional information. Also what about during the week and upto the game all the local team specials they have on their home team, alot of that information never makes it mainstream.Here in the DC Metro , you got the 4-5 different Redskins television or radio shows throughout the week that include alot of Redskins players. Alot of homer fans on these boards, go to mini camps , training camps, visit their favorite team forum daily and are alot more in the know than someone whos only affiliation with the teams happening is a fantasy player in one league they have. Not all valuable news is reported to the mainstream media.This is very, very untrue. This happens about 30% of the time, and when it does, it's almost immediate anyway.When local media gets something national media might want, one of the first calls they make, even while typing up the story, is to the national feed/AP. I did this all the time--it's the best way to get the local station's name out in the national media. Free advertising at its best.But, I'm sure you already knew that.The national media only regurgitates what it gets from local reporters feeds.
Heap - who hasn't missed a game since Jan. 2, 2005 - is the most significant concern. The team's second-leading receiver in catches and yards injured his hamstring in Sunday's 27-13 loss to the Cleveland Browns and is likely questionable for Sunday's game against the San Francisco 49ers.
"It's the lower hamstring, which is good," Billick said. "As you know, high hamstrings are ones that can linger for a while. So, we'll see how it progresses with the week."
Wilcox, who has battled ankle injuries since training camp, injured his toe, but Billick said it was not turf toe, which tends to take longer to heal.
If neither Heap nor Wilcox can play, Sypniewski would likely make his fourth career start. The fifth-round pick in 2006 has been praised for his blocking prowess, but he also caught a 4-yard touchdown pass against the Browns.
"Quinn Sypniewski did a great job stepping in and filling in a role that he's not particularly used to," Billick said.
Ravens practice reportHeap, Wilcox, Mason out for early portion of workoutSun staff 12:22 PM EDT, October 4, 2007 Ravens tight ends Todd Heap and Daniel Wilcox were absent for the second straight day from the early part of today's practice.Heap is nursing a hamstring injury, while Wilcox is dealing with a sprained toe on his left foot. While Heap has been unavailable for comment, Wilcox has vowed to be ready for Sunday's game against the San Francisco 49ers.
Baltimore SunRavens tight ends Todd Heap and Daniel Wilcox were absent for the second straight day from the early part of today's practice.
Heap is nursing a hamstring injury, while Wilcox is dealing with a sprained toe on his left foot. While Heap has been unavailable for comment, Wilcox has vowed to be ready for Sunday's game against the San Francisco 49ers.
He's one of the backups. Either that or the lead detective on NYPD:BlueIm not a Balt homer but I just saw Draftsharks put Quinn Sypnewski on their TE rank list for the week. Who the heck is he?
Heap had a big year last year with McNair.If Boller was in there I would have to consider Heap. But with the piece of trash McNair at QB, it makes it easier to bench Heap. You know you are bad when you are worse than Boller. Clueless dolt, Billick won't make the right move and get that over the hill hack McNair out of there until it's too late.
That was last year. This year, McNair looks like a beat up old lady out there. He's gotta go.Heap had a big year last year with McNair.If Boller was in there I would have to consider Heap. But with the piece of trash McNair at QB, it makes it easier to bench Heap. You know you are bad when you are worse than Boller. Clueless dolt, Billick won't make the right move and get that over the hill hack McNair out of there until it's too late.
Funny you say full healthy that is one reason i drafted Heap this year was because they said he is finally healthy, anyway it does not sound good for him playing this weekend, has anybody got any further updates??I'd actually rather him get fully healthy, but that's only because I have other options.