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My GF didnt like the movie Heat which i showed to her last night...hows this possible?!?!
I don't think any female in any culture has ever liked that movie. See also, Scarface.My GF didnt like the movie Heat which i showed to her last night...hows this possible?!?!
Girls always want DiNiro to leave.My GF didnt like the movie Heat which i showed to her last night...hows this possible?!?!
Chicks don't understand the beauty of a well-executed heist that still goes to hell and turns into a lead-slinging, full-auto firefight in the streets of downtown.
I don't understand the appeal of "Fried Green Tomatoes".
We're just different.
yupChicks don't understand the beauty of a well-executed heist that still goes to hell and turns into a lead-slinging, full-auto firefight in the streets of downtown.
I don't understand the appeal of "Fried Green Tomatoes".
We're just different.
I disagree. It gave him a chance to live up to his words regarding the heat around the corner.Heat is about a half hour too long.
They should have totally eliminated the love interest of DeNiro - as it was pointless in the plot.
Absolutely. It provided the emotional foundation of the film and was balanced nicely by the relationship between Val Kilmer and Ashley Judd's characters. Michael Mann is an incredible filmmaker and in his best films (and he doesn't make many bad ones IMO) he realizes that every aspect of the film, however minute it appears, reflects on the story as a whole. The same applies to the Dennis Haysbert character who despite minimal screen time and "importance" is fleshed out extremely well. He's a small character but we understand everything about his motivation which leads to the right level of pathos when he dies (and his sister sees the news about it on TV).I disagree. It gave him a chance to live up to his words regarding the heat around the corner.Heat is about a half hour too long.
They should have totally eliminated the love interest of DeNiro - as it was pointless in the plot.
Yeah that part sucked.The same applies to the Dennis Haysbert character who despite minimal screen time and "importance" is fleshed out extremely well. He's a small character but we understand everything about his motivation which leads to the right level of pathos when he dies (and his sister sees the news about it on TV).
Sister? I thought it was his girlfriend. Don't they kiss?Yeah that part sucked.The same applies to the Dennis Haysbert character who despite minimal screen time and "importance" is fleshed out extremely well. He's a small character but we understand everything about his motivation which leads to the right level of pathos when he dies (and his sister sees the news about it on TV).
You don't kiss your sister?Sister? I thought it was his girlfriend. Don't they kiss?Yeah that part sucked.The same applies to the Dennis Haysbert character who despite minimal screen time and "importance" is fleshed out extremely well. He's a small character but we understand everything about his motivation which leads to the right level of pathos when he dies (and his sister sees the news about it on TV).
What sister?You don't kiss your sister?Sister? I thought it was his girlfriend. Don't they kiss?Yeah that part sucked.The same applies to the Dennis Haysbert character who despite minimal screen time and "importance" is fleshed out extremely well. He's a small character but we understand everything about his motivation which leads to the right level of pathos when he dies (and his sister sees the news about it on TV).
You don't have a sister to kiss?What sister?You don't kiss your sister?Sister? I thought it was his girlfriend. Don't they kiss?Yeah that part sucked.The same applies to the Dennis Haysbert character who despite minimal screen time and "importance" is fleshed out extremely well. He's a small character but we understand everything about his motivation which leads to the right level of pathos when he dies (and his sister sees the news about it on TV).
You've lost me. Anywho, they kiss on the lips in the movie. They're not related, I don't think.You don't have a sister to kiss?What sister?You don't kiss your sister?Sister? I thought it was his girlfriend. Don't they kiss?Yeah that part sucked.The same applies to the Dennis Haysbert character who despite minimal screen time and "importance" is fleshed out extremely well. He's a small character but we understand everything about his motivation which leads to the right level of pathos when he dies (and his sister sees the news about it on TV).
Awesome gun fight scene.Bullets flying everywhere and shooting through windshields =One of my top 5 movies. Gun fight in the street is my favorite movie scene. GF and I watched it last week, she liked it.
It's his girlfriend/or wife.You've lost me. Anywho, they kiss on the lips in the movie. They're not related, I don't think.You don't have a sister to kiss?What sister?You don't kiss your sister?Sister? I thought it was his girlfriend. Don't they kiss?Yeah that part sucked.The same applies to the Dennis Haysbert character who despite minimal screen time and "importance" is fleshed out extremely well. He's a small character but we understand everything about his motivation which leads to the right level of pathos when he dies (and his sister sees the news about it on TV).
I couldn't disagree more. Get rid of De Niro's love interest and he then looks like another typical movie bad guy who is just all bad, bad, bad. His relationship showed another side of his character and also demonstrated his attempt at having a 'normal' relationship in the midst of living a very 'abnormal' life. It also helped showed how similar the Pacino and De Niro characters were when it came to putting their jobs before their relationships. In other words, even though one character was a good guy cop and another was a bad guy killer, they are more alike than you think.Heat is about a half hour too long.
They should have totally eliminated the love interest of DeNiro - as it was pointless in the plot.
Yup, my mistake there. Not his sister.It's his girlfriend/or wife.
negatory. michael mann is a geniusI don't think any female in any culture has ever liked that movie. See also, Scarface.My GF didnt like the movie Heat which i showed to her last night...hows this possible?!?!
In MY ending, they both shoot each other in the head at the same time and fall forward identically. Then Waynegrow comes in clutching his head and chest, steals their wallets and runs away pumping his fist.Loved it up until the end...it just ended so lamely.
Deniro is playing such a sharp guy...but he doesn't realize he's going to cast a freaking shadow when those lights come blaring up? He doesn't lay flat on the ground and just lie in wait for Pacino? It just bugs...no way does MY Deniro die at the end of that movie. My version has Pacino spitting blood and sihtting lead...with Deniro walking away clean.
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I'll allow it.In MY ending, they both shoot each other in the head at the same time and fall forward identically. Then Waynegrow comes in clutching his head and chest, steals their wallets and runs away pumping his fist.Loved it up until the end...it just ended so lamely.
Deniro is playing such a sharp guy...but he doesn't realize he's going to cast a freaking shadow when those lights come blaring up? He doesn't lay flat on the ground and just lie in wait for Pacino? It just bugs...no way does MY Deniro die at the end of that movie. My version has Pacino spitting blood and sihtting lead...with Deniro walking away clean.
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It's like risk versus reward, baby.the main problem with this movie is that the ending is just not believable. there's no way DeNiro's character risks everything to go back after Waingro.
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Waingro actually says it himself.Waingro: Well, he's probably busy right now. But he's real thorough. He ain't gon' forget about you.the main problem with this movie is that the ending is just not believable. there's no way DeNiro's character risks everything to go back after Waingro.
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My feeling's exactly.People are talking about how he's committed to the mantra he's spitting about how he'll leave...he'll just walk away from the chick when the cops come knocking...and how it's such an integral part of the movie to see him do it at the end...but then that same logic flies in the face of why is he even there in the first place? No way he'll risk everything for the broad...but he'll risk it all for revenge?the main problem with this movie is that the ending is just not believable. there's no way DeNiro's character risks everything to go back after Waingro.
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In the original script Bobby D made it to the airport and got away, but Bobby D didn't like that ending. "I need to whack Waingro before I leave the city. What Waingro did was wrong." Michael Mann responded, "You'll get caught, Bobby. Al is too good." Deniro insisted and ultimately it was his downfall.My feeling's exactly.People are talking about how he's committed to the mantra he's spitting about how he'll leave...he'll just walk away from the chick when the cops come knocking...and how it's such an integral part of the movie to see him do it at the end...but then that same logic flies in the face of why is he even there in the first place? No way he'll risk everything for the broad...but he'll risk it all for revenge?the main problem with this movie is that the ending is just not believable. there's no way DeNiro's character risks everything to go back after Waingro.
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Hell...revenge can be served up long distance via a cell phone on a remote island while sipping umbrella drinks and snorting coke off the bottom's of naked island girls.
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At times...I can be smart enough to resist those types of urges...but ultimately...I'd probably slice Waingro from his crotch to his ears as well...but no freaking way am I going down like that...In the original script Bobby D made it to the airport and got away, but Bobby D didn't like that ending. "I need to whack Waingro before I leave the city. What Waingro did was wrong." Michael Mann responded, "You'll get caught, Bobby. Al is too good." Deniro insisted and ultimately it was his downfall.My feeling's exactly.People are talking about how he's committed to the mantra he's spitting about how he'll leave...he'll just walk away from the chick when the cops come knocking...and how it's such an integral part of the movie to see him do it at the end...but then that same logic flies in the face of why is he even there in the first place? No way he'll risk everything for the broad...but he'll risk it all for revenge?the main problem with this movie is that the ending is just not believable. there's no way DeNiro's character risks everything to go back after Waingro.
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Hell...revenge can be served up long distance via a cell phone on a remote island while sipping umbrella drinks and snorting coke off the bottom's of naked island girls.
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this dude is smart and completely unemotional about everything he does. he supposedly falls in love with this chick and talks her into flying away with him. He can get away clean if he just goes to the airport, but instead he decides to turn around and goes to this hotel. He gets into the hotel and KNOWS its a trap but still decides to go through with it just to get revenge.if revenge was that important to him, he could get the dude back some other time down the road. no need to do it now while all this heat was on him. ending tarnished what was otherwise a very good film.INT. HYATT HOUSE, LOBBY - SERVICE DOOR: NEIL - NIGHT
enters and crosses to the elevators. He glances to his
left.
NEIL'S POV: DESK CLERK
talks on his police radio. TILT DOWN. A 9mm. Beretta is
under the counter top.
NEIL
continues to the elevators. It says he KNOWS Waingro is a
trap. He knows the LAPD are here. He's come for him
anyway.
When Michael Mann yelled action, Bobby D was suppose to drive straight to the airport, but he didn't. He took the exit to the hotel and Mann had no choice but to keep rolling. If you listen closely as Deniro gets out of the car you can here Mann saying (very matter-of-factly), "Al is going to be there, he's going to catch you. You throwing it all away." Deniro didn't listen and the rest is cinematic history.from the script:
this dude is smart and completely unemotional about everything he does. he supposedly falls in love with this chick and talks her into flying away with him. He can get away clean if he just goes to the airport, but instead he decides to turn around and goes to this hotel. He gets into the hotel and KNOWS its a trap but still decides to go through with it just to get revenge.if revenge was that important to him, he could get the dude back some other time down the road. no need to do it now while all this heat was on him. ending tarnished what was otherwise a very good film.INT. HYATT HOUSE, LOBBY - SERVICE DOOR: NEIL - NIGHT
enters and crosses to the elevators. He glances to his
left.
NEIL'S POV: DESK CLERK
talks on his police radio. TILT DOWN. A 9mm. Beretta is
under the counter top.
NEIL
continues to the elevators. It says he KNOWS Waingro is a
trap. He knows the LAPD are here. He's come for him
anyway.
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way to go BobbyWhen Michael Mann yelled action, Bobby D was suppose to drive straight to the airport, but he didn't. He took the exit to the hotel and Mann had no choice but to keep rolling. If you listen closely as Deniro gets out of the car you can here Mann saying (very matter-of-factly), "Al is going to be there, he's going to catch you. You throwing it all away." Deniro didn't listen and the rest is cinematic history.
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:shemale:Interesting. I just rented this from Netflix as part of my GF's education of DeNiro and Pacino. She absolutely loved the movie. You need a new GF.
I hated how the movie ended, personally, but it was the correct way to end it. I think the whole entire point of the movie was about DeNiro and Pacino not having relationships that got in the way of their work. That is why both were so successful; one at commiting crimes, the other at solving them. It was DeNiro's relationship with his crew, his loyalty, that got him caught in the end. He could not get over the fact that he was screwed over by a former accomplice, one that killed his friend (Danny Trejo). If he had that much love for the girl, he might have been able to walk away. he couldn't let it go.from the script:
this dude is smart and completely unemotional about everything he does. he supposedly falls in love with this chick and talks her into flying away with him. He can get away clean if he just goes to the airport, but instead he decides to turn around and goes to this hotel. He gets into the hotel and KNOWS its a trap but still decides to go through with it just to get revenge.if revenge was that important to him, he could get the dude back some other time down the road. no need to do it now while all this heat was on him. ending tarnished what was otherwise a very good film.INT. HYATT HOUSE, LOBBY - SERVICE DOOR: NEIL - NIGHT
enters and crosses to the elevators. He glances to his
left.
NEIL'S POV: DESK CLERK
talks on his police radio. TILT DOWN. A 9mm. Beretta is
under the counter top.
NEIL
continues to the elevators. It says he KNOWS Waingro is a
trap. He knows the LAPD are here. He's come for him
anyway.
Robert DeNiro's waiting talking Italian?Girls always want DiNiro to leave.My GF didnt like the movie Heat which i showed to her last night...hows this possible?!?!
Seems a bit high but defintely a very good action flick.Top 10 all time
Not even in the top 10 of Deniro or Pacino movies.Top 10 all time
Wrong. You cant name 10 each, of their movies that are better.Not even in the top 10 of Deniro or Pacino movies.Top 10 all time
Both of these guys have piled up some real turkeys. It happens in a long career. I could see a legit argument for it being in their Top 10.Not even in the top 10 of Deniro or Pacino movies.Top 10 all time